[Drama 2022] Extraordinary Attorney Woo/Unusual Lawyer Woo Young Woo, 이상한 변호사 우영우

[partyon]

Ep 13 and 14 were the first episodes I didn't thoroughly enjoy. Even found myself FFing a lot of ep 14.

Poor Attorney Jung

I also didn't like:

• The forced love line between Kwon Min Woo and Choi Su Yeon
• I did expect the Hanbada CEO to have an ulterior agenda, but it still felt disappointing to see her this evil
• The communication breakdown between Young Woo and Jun Ho. She should have been honest with him why she wanted to break up. Him ending up blaming himself for the breakup wasn't a cool thing to do.
  It was quite expected that they would hit a bump on the road, but I was disappointed about the communication
• The story became repetitive, and I REALLY hope that they don't angle for a season 2. I feel like the show has run its course....

 

Le sigh. We've only got 2 more episodes to go. Hopefully they will be able to tie all loose ends together next week.

[backstreetboysfan]

OMG Episode 14 was so heartbreaking .

 

I really hope he will be okay, poor Attorney Jung .

 

Also I really hope Jun-ho finds out why Young Woo said that they really need to talk, I hope these to will get a happy ending two more episodes to go.

[SJW]

this toll road case shouldnt last 2 eps; the bickering scenes between suyeon and minwoo, and the noises made up by guerami and hairy are too much! a more decent conversation between attny jung and his ex-wife and hearing youngwoo's dad response at the phone call would be more interesting!

most viewers think that youngwoo should explain to junho about her decision to end the relationship. they should talk about it! but in real life between normal couples, how often do they communicate clearly about their problems? i see some positive change/growth in youngwoo in these 2 eps; she is slowly coming out of her own world. she has noticed jung's longing to have the special noodles and made effort to find the chef. she starts thinking about junho in intangible term - his happiness, his loneliness. she knew her condition causing disadvantage for her client in the earlier ep and now she sees the difficulties junho (her loved one) faces from his family because of her. she truly loves junho so she will not tell him that she couldnt bear to see him dealing with criticism or arguments because of their relationship. this is an absolute challenging relationship. they are in the middle of a serious argument and youngwoo's mind has gone to the case all of a sudden! when his heart is so broken because of youngwoo's unpredictable decision. he'll face this kind of communication breakdown on touchy subjects especially when it comes to the hearts down the road. but i think if youngwoo is growing, they can overcome this kind of communication problem. it'll just takes lots of patience and a big heart! right now, it's to overcome noises from people around them. 

in these eps, youngwoo's dad and junho's sister stress the point of finding someone who can bring happiness and can provide for care. if everyone just wants to be the receiver of happiness and to be taken care of in a relationship, then where are the givers of love and care? 

glad to see more scenes of junho in ep14! investigation is actually a crucial part of litigation. but the drama seldom focus on him in earlier eps, making him look more like a supporting role and yet a crucial character for youngwoo!  

[maribella]

2 hours ago, partyon said:

The communication breakdown between Young Woo and Jun Ho. She should have been honest with him why she wanted to break up. Him ending up blaming himself for the breakup wasn't a cool thing to do.
It was quite expected that they would hit a bump on the road, but I was disappointed about the communication

She is autistic so all social and personal niceties have to be taught. Just like her advisor had to teach her to comment on the interior design or say freaking delicious.  Or saying that Jung may die of 3rd degree stomach cancer .

JH will put two and two together in one of her outbursts.

 

I don't like the Kwon and SY pairing, although it seemed a foregone conclusion when JH and SY paired off.  He is an opportunist and cynic. They should just remain colleagues who have started to learn to work together.  Her friend does not seem to grow out of her high school behaviour. Maybe once she and the chef get paired off ..... they are too much, even for comic relief.
 

Hanbada's and Taesan's CEOs must have badblood between them. Both inherited their considerable practices.  Could Hanbada and Taesan have fought over WYW's dad in law school? 
 

YW had practically won all their cases for them, except for one. They should be complimenting her, it would be fun to see her reaction.

[Newbie21SG]

Yesterday's rating was 14.646% (3.885m viewers), lower than last week's. I think the episodes this week have been a bit slower & focuses more on personal relationships between the characters; and their predicament too.

 

Can it pick up for the last 2 episodes and break 20% next week?

[backstreetboysfan]

Here is the ratings for Episode 14! .

 

 

“Extraordinary Attorney Woo” Heads Into Final Week On Ratings Rise

 

With just two episodes left to go, ENA’s “Extraordinary Attorney Woo” enjoyed a rise in viewership for its latest broadcast!

 

On August 11, “Extraordinary Attorney Woo” continued its reign as the most-watched miniseries of the evening as it headed into the final week of its run. According to Nielsen Korea, the 14th episode of the hit drama scored an average nationwide rating of 14.6 percent, marking a significant increase from the previous night.

 

“Extraordinary Attorney Woo” Heads Into Final Week On Ratings Rise | Soompi

[nrllee]

2 hours ago, SJW said:

in these eps, youngwoo's dad and junho's sister stress the point of finding someone who can bring happiness and can provide for care. if everyone just wants to be the receiver of happiness and to be taken care of in a relationship, then where are the givers of love and care? 

True.  But they have a point.  YW’s relationship with JH will always be very much one-sided.  Yes she can “learn” to adapt and attempt to meet his needs but it’s like an afterthought?  Notice how she is with SY.  Despite SY saying she didn’t want to hear anymore about dolphins, YW couldn’t stop herself.  Autistic people find it very hard to figure out context.  So when chef and her friend told her how she should behave in front of JH’s family, she followed through verbatim with zero context which made the conversations weird.  SY has mentioned to JH that he really needs to think hard before embarking on a relationship with YW.  Because as YW’s friend through law school, she knew what was involved.  She mentioned how YW kept going on about topics that interested her in the face of SY being upset about a failed test (?).  Again it’s a context thing.  Neurotypical people would be able to gauge that our friend is upset and ask her what is wrong instead of just blabbing on about ourselves/interests.  Being YW’s friend is a lonely endeavour.  It’s not a give and take.  It’s giving the bulk of the time.  Thus far, JH hasn’t had much “trouble” in his life (this is very unrealistic).  He hasn’t needed to rely on his gf to talk through things.  He’s always been the person giving.  This is lovely but again totally unrealistic in a real life situation.  If he wants to continue in a relationship with YW, he will pretty much resign himself to being very “alone” in his struggles or he would likely have to find a mate to unburden himself in future.  Currently JH is still very much in that “honeymoon” phase in the relationship.  If he plans to go into it seriously he really needs to have a man to man talk (many of them) with the person who knows YW best and understands what life with her would be like - her dad.  It’s not impossible.  Her dad learnt to live with her.   But JH needs to get into it with his head and not just his heart.  
 

EDIT - just watched Ep14 and writer has explored the loneliness aspect of a relationship with someone with autism.  She’s paralleled it neurotypical relationship of Jung and his ex wife.  And highlighted a distinct difference.  At least with Jung and his ex you can see that he knows when it (excluding his wife) happens.  Contrast this with YW when she talked about breaking up and then went on a tangent about the court case.  She reverts instinctively back to her insular world, leaving him in a lurch.  She probably didn’t understand fully why he was yelling at her either.  This is the reality that you have to learn to deal with when you’re in a relationship with someone with autism.  You will have to learn to accept being misunderstood all the time.  It’s a very lonely existence.

 

As for SY and MW.  I think in part SY herself had prejudices from the start about MW.  She expected him to behave like a jerk all the time.  She never gave him the benefit of the doubt.  Or entertain the fact that people can change.  He may be cutthroat/driven at work but he seems to let his guard down when he’s off work.  
 

2 more eps.  I think it’s enough for me.  I am not looking for a S2.  I looked for a S2 in Move To Heaven.  That’s another great show with an autistic lead.  

[backstreetboysfan]

The artists behind the beautiful artworks and illustrations of ExtraordinaryAttorneyWoo

 

 

[philosophie]

7 hours ago, partyon said:

Ep 13 and 14 were the first episodes I didn't thoroughly enjoy. Even found myself FFing a lot of ep 14.

Poor Attorney Jung

I also didn't like:

• The forced love line between Kwon Min Woo and Choi Su Yeon
• I did expect the Hanbada CEO to have an ulterior agenda, but it still felt disappointing to see her this evil
• The communication breakdown between Young Woo and Jun Ho. She should have been honest with him why she wanted to break up. Him ending up blaming himself for the breakup wasn't a cool thing to do.
  It was quite expected that they would hit a bump on the road, but I was disappointed about the communication
• The story became repetitive, and I REALLY hope that they don't angle for a season 2. I feel like the show has run its course....

 

Le sigh. We've only got 2 more episodes to go. Hopefully they will be able to tie all loose ends together next week.

Thank you. I had the exact same thoughts. If this happened way earlier in the show maybe u would be less disapointed and frustrated. But my one who’s an avid kdrama viewer knows the plot for,ull usually has a breakup trope in the last episodes and even an obligatory time skip before they get back together (which hasn’t happened...yet?). This show was doing so well throwing tropes over its head. Until now. Also spring sunshine DOES NIT deserve tactician MW! It’s too late I. The show for a redemption arc and even if he had one he still does not deserve Spring sunshine. 

 

4 hours ago, maribella said:

She is autistic so all social and personal niceties have to be taught. Just like her advisor had to teach her to comment on the interior design or say freaking delicious.  Or saying that Jung may die of 3rd degree stomach cancer .

JH will put two and two together in one of her outbursts.

this has me wondering what it would have been like if YW had a therapist through the entire show. Would having had professional support helped her maintain her relationship? Would she be closer to her loved ones and better at communication if she frequently visited a specialist doctor (NOT in Boston thank you very much....Kill Me Heal me was over a decade ago and had a psychologist that worked with someone with multi personality disorder. There is no Korean doctor in this modern day set in show that has autistic patients? Not one she can go to even now with her income and (health insurance comes with lawyer job right?)

[K-dramafan22]

I agree that the love relationship between YW and JH would be a constant struggle.JH sometimes can forget and put regular people's expectations on YW and it's normal because he has emotional needs as well.  Like the talk near the beach about the breakup, YW was totally absorbed in her world of solving the case when she had her moment of "Eureka"="Dolphin" but JH could not appreciate that under the circumstances they were in.  However, neither were wrong because emotionally they are different.  JH would have expectations of YW to understand how he felt at the moment but YW would not respond according to his expectation and she was also being her "normal" self.   So there are two norms here which would be out-of-sync.    Also, it is true that this would NEVER be an even relationship.   Even in relationships of two regular persons, it is not always even, what more theirs?   YW could never change her condition completely, she may grow and improve in certain areas but never completely overcome it.   So she is someone who really needs one who is willing to give a lot and not expect the same from her because she cannot, not because she does not want to.   Therefore, YW's dad's concern is real.  If she ever settles down, it has to be someone who completely understands this and can embrace it fully without giving up.  

 

JH is currently fascinated by YW, will he forever be fascinated by her or frustrated eventually?  That really depends on JH, how well he is able to adapt himself in the long haul of a relationship.   If not, it is even good to become a BESTIE for YW.  Sometimes being friends is better when complex feelings are removed.  For example, if YW cannot understand the nuances of action that could cause JH to be jealous, how can she ever avoid that?   It's not possible and that again means JH has to readjust his feelings about certain things.   Will JH get tired in a relationship like this?   Maybe....because I believe most people would be; most people want their wants and needs to be met as well. 

 

Seriously...I do not like that SY is being written as a character with no better choice than to go with MW?  Whatever reasons MW have for his actions, his actions are not excusable as it has gone to the point of being unscrupulous.

SY is such an attractive woman with sound character, why keep showing that she has no luck to meet better man by giving her first a chef with weird sense of humour, than a scam love guy and now MW????     

Instead of making Att Jung die, SY should pair up with Att Jung instead?  Att Jung is such a workaholic.  Being in the same line of work, she would be able to understand and even discuss work with him as pleasure, unlike his ex-wife who has no interest in his line of work.   Seriously, scriptwriter-nim, a loveline between Att Jung and SY is anytime better and makes more sense than SY with MW...comeon!!    Att Jung is matured, kind and suave and deserves better than having cancer and die, and SY being such an angel friend to YW also deserves a better relationship.    

 

[maribella]

1 hour ago, philosophie said:

had a therapist through the entire show. Would having had professional support helped her maintain her relationship? Would she be closer to her loved ones and better at communication if she frequently visited a specialist doctor (NOT in Boston thank you very much....Kill Me Heal me was over a decade ago and had a psychologist that worked with someone with multi personality disorder. There is no Korean doctor in this modern day set in show that has autistic patients? Not one she can go to even now with her income and (health insurance comes with lawyer job right?)

It depends on the level of autism if it can be 'treated'. It's problem of the brain and mind. I knew a friend who adopted a boy who turned out mentally challenged. He had no concept of  cost or money. But he could take care of himself otherwise. He was given professional help but when he was already 20. Maybe if caught early, he could improve. I don't think autistics csn ever be 'normal'.

There is an American show about a real maths genius who was autistic. Emotionally he was a mess.

 

WYW probably falls in this category. Highly developed memory storage and recall.

 

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[minglanfan2]

40 minutes ago, K-dramafan22 said:

Seriously...I do not like that SY is being written as a character with no better choice than to go with MW?  Whatever reasons MW have for his actions, his actions are not excusable as it has gone to the point of being unscrupulous.

SY is such an attractive woman with sound character, why keep showing that she has no luck to meet better man by giving her first a chef with weird sense of humour, than a scam love guy and now MW????     

 

I am miffed too at SY being romantically linked with MW.She also deserves a good human being like Junho. 

[K-dramafan22]

30 minutes ago, minglanfan2 said:

I am miffed too at SY being romantically linked with MW.She also deserves a good human being like Junho. 

I know right?  This pairing is unreal because they have opposite set of values and beliefs, (a) how to engage? (b) how to last?  Posting anonymously in the internet cafe  was such a shady act plus SY was the one who told YW he was tactician KMW.  I know someone like this who used to share with us proudly all his tactics of shirking his responsibilities and we thought it was immaturity but many years later..still the same!!! 

[haruhi17]

Here are some of my thoughts on Ep. 13 and 14: what if Minwoo's conscience started to bother him the moment he saw Atty Jung collapse in pain in the courtroom, and especially after learning he was diagnosed with stage 3 stomach cancer? No matter how much he resents Jung for seemingly showing favor to YW, it seems like he has worked under Jung for quite some time before YW came along. He must have looked up to Jung as a mentor during those times, so there must have been some feelings of concern over Jung and his welfare, for sure. Thus, he must feel guilty for the negative feelings he had about Jung (he expressed them to Tae Sumi). That's the only explanation I can come up with for his personality transplant. Lol.

[K-dramafan22]

Oh....a thought suddenly dawned on me.....

SY is an amateur in relationships, possibly never even dated much before....so when a guy came along and paid so much attention to details about her, she must be feeling so overwhelmed and hence smitten.   This is the only possible explanation of how SY can even possibly respond to someone like MW.   So it is a function of SY being lack in dating experiences and it bewildered her with such attention, not about who MW really is as a person...

 

Now the question for all of you.....imagining you are SY....

 

If a guy is super super nice to you like no one has ever been before but rather nasty to other people, unless that person has a leverage for him, would you still fall for someone like that?   Is it possible to be in a love boat and under one roof with someone like this till death do us part?   I am curious about your thoughts........  

 

 

[partyon]

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[lilyphenix]

11 hours ago, partyon said:

 

I also didn't like:

• The communication breakdown between Young Woo and Jun Ho. She should have been honest with him why she wanted to break up. Him ending up blaming himself for the breakup wasn't a cool thing to do.
  It was quite expected that they would hit a bump on the road, but I was disappointed about the communication

I agree with you, about the holding back telling everything. It is interesting how she blurts out the whole truth when she speaks about the lives of others, such as when she first met the wife of her boss and gave the whole history of their marriage, but didn't tell Jun Ho when she told her dad, that he made her happy etc. but she thought she couldn't make him happy. I do not know what is like to have autism on that spectrum, but wonder if there is a way where she could learn to trust that Jun Ho is an adult enough to make his own decision, as opposed to listening to his friends and sisters.

I feel a bit hurt for him because except his colleagues, who spend much time with Young Woo, no one else understand his romantic relationship with her, and none of his friends, and now family, is supportive of it. I want to know what got him to volunteer with people with disability. I am sure there is a story there, which explain how he could click so organically with Attorney Woo from the start, and how he knew how to react when she was in distress. Maybe his parents are like him, too? Maybe his sister did not want him to talk about YW because they had/lost a sibling who had a similar condition?

@K-dramafan22 I understand SY is probably in a vulnerable state, romantically speaking. It is obvious that she is looking for love, but she keeps being disappointed (remember the past failed dating experiences). She also seems to trust quickly and easily, which explains that she is always in danger of being taken advantage of by a future love partner. To answer your question, I think it is possible to be attracted and maybe even fall in love with someone who first showed you they were not trustworthy, then started acting nice. Staying married or living with them forever, though? I can't answer that. If they were just pretending, then the mask will fall off and the bad habits will be there again, the other partner will be hurt and might decide it is not worth to endure and not being able to trust...

Edited August 12, 2022 by lilyphenix
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[LeftCoastOppa]

8 hours ago, maribella said:

Hanbada's and Taesan's CEOs must have badblood between them. Both inherited their considerable practices.  Could Hanbada and Taesan have fought over WYW's dad in law school? 

 

Omo! thank you!!!

 

I was so disappointed with her at the end of the latest episode that I never stopped to consider that possibility - Soooooooooooooo I went back and watched the episode where she meets WYW's father in the restaurant, and the music in that scene + the way she's looking at him when he first walks out  ...  I don't think she's sabotaging the Taesan CEO to advance herself, she's taking revenge on her for stealing her first love? ... abandoning her daughter ... destroying his law career? ... both? 

 

(damn, this next part is difficult ...) ... I really hope you're right ... this time ...  

[xiashenghan]

Logged in to Soompi after a long time just because I need answers as to why the Hanbada CEO is so into ruining Taesan CEO's career.

[maribella]

1 hour ago, LeftCoastOppa said:

 

Omo! thank you!!!

 

I was so disappointed with her at the end of the latest episode that I never stopped to consider that possibility - Soooooooooooooo I went back and watched the episode where she meets WYW's father in the restaurant, and the music in that scene + the way she's looking at him when he first walks out  ...  I don't think she's sabotaging the Taesan CEO to advance herself, she's taking revenge on her for stealing her first love? ... destroying his law career? ... both? 

 

(damn, this next part is difficult ...) ... I really hop you're right ... this time ...  

 

We may be agreeing on something!!

 

@LeftCoastOppa come back to the dailies, nobody is around to defend the brainless SML in the Gold mask.

 

It could be unrequited love on Hanbada's side. The father seemed rather cold in accusing her of using his daughter.