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  1. I am suspecting that the lawyer is the serial killer and the corpse they found was DB’s klepto coworker that stole her bracelet i am shipping YS and DB so much! I love how genuine and organic their relationship developed and progressed. I really really hope it wasn’t her that died.
  2. Watching raw. When the dad walked in on murder scene, it seems he thought that the wife had done it because both the wine and art book were bday presents from hers and at the crime scene so he deduced it was her and called ha to cover it up. I think at that point only ha knew who was real killer by cleaning up evidence and such.
  3. RIP WS...I had sincerely hoped u weren’t the killer but undeniably suspected since you were the lead obvious suspect. I was really hoping for some grand turn around, that all the money you borrowed would suddenly turn up like you had saved it and show up at the board meeting like you’re already a major shadow shareholder or something. I was waiting for his moment to shine, really. And as SH sobbed finding out her birth secret (I did too), the last thing she entered wa to lose the las family member close to her so this is a very sad ending indeed. Did the dad ever show up in the raw after being in the hospital? So was the last episode the last we saw of the SIL? Who ended up being the CEO of MC group? Also did wench ever explain WHY she favored WJ so much over WS? (I mean lady nothing justifies favoritism but how can from such an. Young age you already prefer that one kid be kidnapped than the other?) Wow after all the lies and corruption, Ms ha’s team still stuck by her instead of staying at top and shifting alliances. Really ?
  4. Seems I’m not the only one riled up by this drama so hats off to the writers for that feat at least. On the other hand, they didn’t do justice to any of the main characters because take the second counselors daughter (I forgot her name..the actress from perfume..) so far in front of the flower crew member she has shown this elegant and perfect very noble lady persona. But I doubt that st this point the flower crew member will care how she is a monster to her servant and have a feeling (more like fear) that he will betray his friend Hoon so that GT gets chosen for queen instead of the woman he loves. Also, are the writers really trying to pair up GTs brother and the maid? She’s totally abusive to him! I don’t care if it’s joseon Times because writers seem not to, conveniently for plot point someone that has grown up as a peasant and blacksmith himself has become royal king without so much as anyone batting an eye at that in the palace and now GT is getting away with posing as a noble lady. Also how everyone acts like kissing is not a big deal...Hoon and GT...and the other two couple I mentioned. Wasn’t Chastity important to them? I’m not saying this show aims to be perfectly historical adaption but for trying to depict joseon time and use their setting for the story sake whenever it’s for their convenience is frustrating because there’s just too many plot holes and things that don’t add up.
  5. Honestly till now I don’t have much sympathy for Soo...or his ‘father’ since they ghosted on the wedding day. You’re telling me since then the father, even a third party, could sendn’t her a message to let her know he’s okay, alive at least without revealing king secret? I’m sorry but I have personally am extremely frustrated with Soo. Does anyone remember how much debt he left her because the wedding was unpaid?! Fine don’t even contact her. The times he interacted with Hoon after...he couldn’t be considerate enough to make sure all expenses are taken care of? Not like he can’t afford it now that he’s the richest of all. And then I honestly cannot understand his rationalization behind bringing GT to the palace. He can barely protect himself or handle the affairs like a proper king, and then he wants to drag another person into it that has already had two assassination attempts after her?! My perception of him so far is a selfish, self absorbed and inconsiderate ‘fiancee’ that doesn’t deserve GT. Sorry not sorry,
  6. Oh yeah! The look the employees shared when she was like no we need to push more and involve the son. And while they may feel responsible for the death of JYI, they have no idea like you said that they are also accomplices in covering up this murder unknowingly. So will they switch sides and end up helping SH?
  7. Poor YD. He tried to ‘freshen up’ his man cave but ended up just over doing it. He reminded me of myself when I end up putting too much perfume for a first date haha. Wow these two need a first date already! They are already started to do pda with hand holding, and just closer in general. I love the team’s handshake too by the way...I can see them doing it at TOP haha if they all end up working there. You know, I have to give my commentary on the TOP employees because it’s what makes me look at Ms Ha from a different perspective. Objectively, there are some things about Ms Ha that don’t make her overall a treacherous and evil person. She isn’t homophobic-as seen with how she treated WJs secret. Her employees are extremely loyal to her-the subordinate didn’t listen to mo when she was in custody and replace her. Th thing about her employees being loyal to her, is that these are normal, non wealthy and privileged people like most that ms Ha work with. Why do such powerless people support a corrupt person like Ms Ha? Obviously it’s behind their pay day as they could still get paid if they remained loyal to mo. I hope I make sense. Wow I cannot believe we are are having the finale this week..time flies. I don’t know what will happen, but if WS is hopefully not the culprit, I’m fine with seeing him as CEO...and SH leading top with YH. Of course i would love to see girl power and SH become CEO too but I wonder besides her moms murder case being cleared, does she really want to lead company? I can’t wait to hear all your guys prediction and theories for the ending.
  8. Hey, for anyone that craved any makjang, this recent twist totally fulfilled that. What I’m a bit confused on is 1) how did WS know SH’s birth secret already? (I voted him as suspect..is this another clue that he is guilty??) 2) if mo didn’t know his daughter was his sister (lol makjang level question) why was he so ‘guarded’ and such with her (ms ha words)? im ready to know what is ms ha background, we already know she doesn’t care for money, so she’s not living a luxurious lifestyle, what is motivating her then? Soo late to the discussion about the kiss, but can I just fangirl about it?! I loved how their make out sesh, no one was stiff and awkward, it was very natural and passionate, and I love how clever they have gotten now. I ship them so bad!!!
  9. Seems like majority so far are leaning towards WS. Like @DreamCatcher2011 said, it feels like the least obvious suspect, WS, is the most possible if the drama wants to go for a twist. Of course I hope that’s not the case, but seeing as how this show loves to leave us at the edge of our seats, I wouldn’t put it behind pdnims to drop Bomb like that on us.
  10. I can’t believe the step mom even had the audacity to use the art work as hers. So what? Your stupid singing didn’t get you far so now you had to steal someone else’s talent? Classy sweetie. You sure are a class act.
  11. I’m on aboard the ‘WS is the suspect!’ Ship. I m sad though because poor SH now really has no one in the family that’s a true ally or even real family for that matter. Makes me so angry whenever they show her dad’s office with a big photo on the wall and one on his desk that has his sons without SH in it. Way to win father of the year award buster.
  12. What’s interesting to me is that YNs daughter SB is in the states yet she is so desperate not to move there with her. Is SB even her real daughter? Also as much as I ship JJ and SW (what a nice twist if HJ ends up with that righteous prosecutor so she gets some love too) I wonder what her true feelings for JH (husband) are. Is friendship, or does she have an unrequited love for him? Does he know her brith secret too? Is he an exception to her revenge? (His youngest sister too since she works for her?) then again we know she’s out for revenge, but what is her end goal or overall scheme? Take back Deo? What about the fate of MIL and kids?
  13. And I think the eldest outs him at a family dinner or allude to it without mentioning WJ particularity while bringing up transgender topic. @thistle also Chingu it seems like the reporter found footage of WJ leaving her moms house years ago before the murder. But WJ denies ever meeting her when she confront him about it. SH is using her knowing the secret too to keep ms ha on her toes, because I think ha told WJ to stop cross dressing and keep it secret forever so it doesn’t leak out. But now that she got a whiff that SH knows, she wants to send her abroad (I’m just assuming based on watching rawr I can be totally wrong! I wish drama milk would live recap this). YD shows his mom the footage too to see if she recognizes WJ. She doesn’t but then ms ha shows up in the video too and his mom recognizes her. At this point, not too many lovey doves scenes between SH and YD except when they’re in Wjs apartment snooping around and he seems to be like, empathetic with WJ about how uncomfortable it must have been to hide his identity. But no top flirting or anything romantic it seemed like unfortunately. (Haven’t finished full episode though) And what he looks like as his alternate persona!
  14. I do like the pace our drama is going. We are getting close to the end yet nothing feels like it’s dragging. On the contrary yes I wish we even had more eps. But hopefully everything is neatLy wrapped up and there aren’t any loose ends by the last ep.
  15. Yes I think the second wife was a mistress when she had WS and WJ so meanwhile mo was still married to SH’s mom even though she didn’t have SH till the mistress already had her sons. By the time Sh was born though, the first wife moved out and the second wife moved in (I’m assuming..might be wrong on all this so don’t want to make any guarantees but this is my presumption). It’s even been debated that WS (eldest son) was from a different father hence why they push so much for WJ to be the heir.
  16. Chingu! So happy to see you here. Yes absolutely, I have a problem with the writing too. I mean I don’t even work for the government and if I found out children, the very ones I was responsible for inviting from my country, died in a plane crash, I wouldn’t be so cavalier about it like she’s been the whole time (maybe except when she flashed back to what he said and when she heard the audio but still the promotion and just overall lack of empathy and accountability ruin it). We also know from her interview video, that she applied there in 2006(and it’s 2012 at this point in drama?) so how can she be so much of a rookie that even after six years she can’t defend herself against the male lead yet be qualified enough to call herself an NIS agent? And then if she’s so smart and relies on brains, why did she so far have to ask two of her colleagues one of which (elder guy) seems to be in on it with her male coworker? I think my my biggest problem is none of these spy centric cases seem to relate to modern day issues like I’m used to seeing in kdramas and enjoy. Unless maybe this plane event was a re-enactment of when that Malaysia airlines went missing or something? I don’t know, I’m honestly a bit lost with what’s going in. So far we have this woman (always speaking super good English) that seems to be related to the old mans death that tried calling in the plane crash to report. She is the bad side I guess. Along with others working for korean embassy as we see our leads face off each one. But what conspiracy is going on? What kind of corrupt is happening that little kids would have to be the sacrifices of it? And you’re telling me there’s no good NIS agents? Just seems like everyone in power and the mass majority of spies are on the bad side which makes this even more frustrating. So vagabond means he’s not loyal to one agency? Is he like a freelancing assassin? Or agent for intelligence (aka giving info to different country agencies?) or he’s like a vigilante and just does his own thing? The only thing about the last one is how does he have the money to fund being a nomad like that and hide from such powerful people that want him killed to shush him up?
  17. And she’s still a Virgin so you were right about them never sleeping together. Also seems like ms Han confirmed he he is transgender too..and gay possibly ? Hence why he wanted to go to Paris?
  18. For once a drama where the good guys are step ahead and actually winning..I’m honestly enjoying YN dig her grave deeper and deeper by trying to drag JJ down. Haha keep doing what you’re doing YN! Imma just sit back and watch you destroy yourself
  19. So here’s the thing, I do think that Sh and TH/YD (ugh sidetracking but I know right @ the reporters?! Like mind your own business! Maybe pay attention to each other cause one of you is a double agent! Hahaha you seem to think you know everything but you guys know nothing of your coworkers) anyways these to need more back up! CNR seems to have left country based on what I saw on raw episode (we did get our scene of them eating with mr cute fan father so that was nice) and these reporters are untrustworthy, so who else is on their team?! They need more allies and a better plan (with plan b, c, Z cause even SH has surpassed ms ha (or Han?! I keep messing up her name with the step moms...other side note I know i keep diverting but while on the topic..I totally have to agree with everyone who suspects she has not so platonic feelings for the father). I do think her eldest oppa could be an ally. I am calling it-all the ‘funding’ he got for this recent movie is actually just saving up as much money as he can to go against these guys (at least I hope so) and his silly careless, debt ridden persona is just a mask. Now dare i may ask about the second eldest? See I took a human sexuality in my college and a transgender as well as a transsexual came to discussion panel for a lecture. A transsexual man is a straight man that just enjoys cross dressing where as transgender woman Is a woman that was born as man but knew she was supposed to be woman and takes hormonal and surgical action to make those changes. See, we know the marriage was sexless (though they said that transgender isn’t linked to sexual orientation so no matter what gender they transition to, it doesn’t relate to what their preferences are) but that might not give any indication to what the second eldest secret is. There’s was also that ticket to France-I am not sure if maybe that has a clue to what is going on?
  20. Gosh darn you ms Han! Can’t you let this go just once ?! but for reals..if I was SH I would use my chaebol connections to find out who has a grudge against TOP and use their thirst for revenge to help make a break through in my moms case
  21. Honestly I saw it raw. I had to see the scene of the reveal, but spoiled myself by watching whole episode cause it happened in the end and I was scared to skip in case I would miss the scene. I wish this show did sub faster.
  22. I can’t believe they went there....pulling a Kardashian family twist on us
  23. I came here to express the same kind of theory! Maybe the woman at the elevator was actually him....and that was why he was shaking when Ms Ha talked about it. I either way, after seeing inside of his apartment I am convinced he is a cross dresser. Only thing, why would as he so upset about losing the hankerchief?
  24. Was it just me that got some daily drama vibes form this show with the tropes and stuff??
  25. At my hair dryer comment...my bad guys my eyes totally deceived me! https://imgur.com/a/7zsDmEK from that angle I totally thought the bath plug was a hair dryer https://imgur.com/a/SQUUDaw
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