Babam Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 3 hours ago, Baylack said: It was originally scheduled to end on 9/15/20 at 11:59 p.m. PDT time. It shows Sept 30 in the URL but the site is not allowing any additional votes. When I go to the link, it shows the following detail and is not allowing votes: https://kingchoice.me/themes/ranker/ Details "THE 100 MOST ATTRACTIVE ASIAN CELEBS 2020" POLL BY KINGCHOICE - Voting Period: August 15 - September 15, 2020 - Downvote not allowed Oh no, why the link say closing date 30 Sept. You are right I cannot vote now but yesterday I still can voted. Thank you 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eLizza Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 @TotoroSY thanks for your effort.. Btw ,I think @ sonkian is a Soompi member as well. So yeah she would also be happy to read ur elaborate post . On a side note...Whaaatttt!! Son Ye Jin actually visited North Korea.. She visited NK in 2005 to film a video related to the unification of the two Koreas. I don't think she went to Pyongyang or entered mainland NK, but atleast she set her foot there. Yejin clearly said that she hoped for the re-unification to happen soon. My god little did she know that in the future,14 years later, she will contribute more to this cause when her character in a drama Crash Landed in NK. I think this was also one reason why she chose to work in CLOY. I never believed in Destiny or such things but HB and SYJ are surely changing my perception towards this concept. Also ,this drama really helped many people become aware of the situation in Korean Peninsula.. https://n.news.naver.com/entertain/article/001/0001154618 14 1 4 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peony22 Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 4 hours ago, Intuition1 said: @TotoroSY Thank you for the posts from the Hong Kong radio. I enjoyed reading their views. Carol Cheng brought up good points about the risk Binjin would be taking if they decide to marry. But the risk of not getting married might be even be worse. In anything worth having in life, there is a risk involved. The more important the thing, the bigger the risk. If Binjin love each other, they should marry for the sake of their careers and sanity. Because not being with the person they love can actually ruin their careers. They might not be able to give their best in their careers due to suffering from heartbreak. They might develop depression and decide to not work or worse self-medicate in self-destructive ways. The negative consequences of letting go of the person they love can lead to a lot of regrets and what ifs. Seeing them with other people might be even more painful. The two of them cannot avoid each other like most people can after they break up. The Korean entertainment industry is small, and they will have a hard time dodging each other at many events, common friends and even seeing each other on their TVs, phones and computers. @NonKoreanMango I think the reason why SYJ did the liking spree at the time is because they got engaged shortly before. I think she did it out of happiness. The liking spree is as close to making an official statement, and the reason why there is no official statement is because he was filming. I read somewhere that Korean actors are contractually required to not make personal announcements for a certain period during the production of a movie or drama to not negatively affect the production. I am not sure whether HB signed such a contract or if they just decided to wait until all the award events ended so as to not overshadow the accomplishments of their co-stars in CLOY. Regardless of the reason, I am pretty sure they are together and will announce eventually. I agree with you if they keep on considering other people how about their own happiness.. We only meet our match once in our lifetime and we all can see that both YJ and HB are already in marrying stage probably a little bit late already..they spent there whole 20yrs building their carreer i think it is about time they focus their own happiness and if I were them and happens to meet my destined person i will take a risk coz i know its a risk that worth fighting for... I do not care about the future the most important is the present the happiness and love and not regretting anything. Hoping both of them surpass those career barriers in taking a life leaping decision that will change their life for happiness sake:)) 13 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halinakorea Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 8 minutes ago, Peony22 said: I agree with you if they keep on considering other people how about their own happiness.. We only meet our match once in our lifetime and we all can see that both YJ and HB are already in marrying stage probably a little bit late already..they spent there whole 20yrs building their carreer i think it is about time they focus their own happiness and if I were them and happens to i meet my destined person i will take a risk coz i know its a risk that worth fighting for... I do not care about the future the most important is the present the happiness and love and not regretting anything. True . they are moneyed, A Lister Actors,.marrying age...they can pull out and create.a.family as.tnat.is their future..to have kids and spread their beautiful gens in the world..if only they can have atleast 6 kids..their gens oh my god..beautiful and wonderful. 7 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peony Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 Since i am missing them in one frame, i reviewed my bookmarks. How can an HB not fall in love with SYJ when only she can make him laugh and happy like we have never seen before in Hyun Bin? How can an SYJ not fall in love with a protective caring HB? HB ... always a close gentleman to SYJ... At one point, SYJ said he wanted a man to know how to Comfort her... HB wanted a woman who is funny because he is dull and quiet.... They were voicing it out to the UNIVERSE.....so they were meant to be! 16 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post PrettyNoona Posted September 17, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 17, 2020 Ring ring honey! babe. What’s wrong? Oh, today my Cinderella friends told me out there people are circulating news that made me upset. Talk to me babe. Don’t be too upset ? I know it’s not true honey. But I hate it when people talking about things that are completely untrue. They said I’m dating a businessman. Yeap, that’s me. What else? Well, at one point they even said I’m dating a singer. That’s me too. What else? Oh yes, there is also a supermodel. Ahhh, Ye-Jinshi, you should be proud. I’m your supermodel. Should I have a private show for you only babe? Binshi, you know why I love you so much? Because you always cheer me up with your sense of humour he he. Ye-Jinshi, remember I’m your businessman, your singer, your supermodel. Your past, your present and your future ? I got it. Now cheer up babe. Let’s talk about what we’re going to do on my birthday! Oh, that would be a secret honey! Let’s keep it that way. #ingrocerywetrust #inTwoFacedPeopleWeDontTrust 11 16 5 4 6 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post PrettyNoona Posted September 17, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 17, 2020 @TotoroSY Thank you so much about the Carol Cheng post. I read it and thinking CC is not simply a radio host but a shipper. She is a very successful actor herself so she understands how the industry work. Her views are really valuable. She helped us to see BinJin acting skills & relationship via a clearer lens. Like when she analysed the scene where YSR was alone in RJH home. YJ’s acting skills are superb, but CLOY was so good with so many great scenes that we may missing out a couple of good acting scenes. CC views about BinJin as well, she is whipped about BinJin like all of us but at the same time her analytical mind and her experience of entertainment world pointing us to the right direction, why BinJin did this and that... Why didn’t they coming out when the grocery photos surfaced and why they chose to call each other close friend instead. CC also believe BinJin is considering marriage and won’t take it lightly. In conclusion, I think BinJin to CC is real like many of us here believe & our ship is still sailing smoothly. Thank you for taking time listening to the talks and get the translation for us. It brings smile to plenty of shippers. Everyday I’m waking up and thinking is today the day? 15 7 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SameLove Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 9 hours ago, girlpepper said: Yes, he may have tested negative while in Jordan, but you don’t get tested again unless you are exhibiting any symptoms. CoVid is not tested when boarding any airplanes only your temp. Temp is not an accurate indicator that you have/don’t have CoVid. Remember people without symptoms maybe able to spread the virus. Covid Virus travels by air and the more enclosed you are the higher the risk of contacting the virus. You may feel well and not have any symptoms, but you can be contagious and spread the virus to any individuals. Symptoms can developed as early as 5 days or as late as 14 days hence, the 14 days quarantine is being mandated. With that being said, I may have to refute your statement about HB and SYJ quarantining together. The thought is lovely and as much as we want them spending time together, now is not the right time and knowing HB, his discipline and being one of the most considerate and responsible person. I don’t think he will take the threat lightly or jeopardize anyone’s health especially Yejins. Let him finish his 14 days quarantine and we all can celebrate together. Agreed. Testing is not done at the airport, only temperatures are taken. I would imagine that HB had been tested while in Jordan and was tested again upon his arrival. And I read that he tested negative. However, even if one is tested negative, Covid symptoms could still appear that's why they have to isolate for 14 days. Symptoms would have appeared around 7 days during isolation if he got the virus. And it is okay as well to quarantine with family as long as proper health precautions are followed. I do believe that HB is self isolating with YJ, if not upon his arrival but after a few days of self-isolation. 7 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpop-fans Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 First revealed - Son Ye Jin showed off her white thighs, and also used a fan with Hyun Bin in the behind-the-scenes photo set "Crash Landing On You" The rare backstage images of the movie “Crash Landing On You” were revealed after 1 year of shooting. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GroceryShipper Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 Enjoyed reading your posts @PrettyNoona. It brings me home to delululand. Talking about SYJ dating, here's a simple throwback during CLOY days 1 13 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElectricHearts Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 12 hours ago, Intuition1 said: Why did they put his name as Kim Taepyung? Everyone knows him as Hyun Bin. I felt like they did it on purpose as they didn't want him to win again? This is why he was so behind. He was originally at #11 if I recall at least he stayed at #6. I basically stopped voting once Lee Min Ho got ahead and there was a super huge gap between everyone 13 hours ago, Baylack said: Well, I guess everybody can't be or sing like HB. It's the thought that counts but at least they have rhythm. Believe it or not, the song is "That Man." If it wasn't for the melody, I never would have guessed It's funny because he actually doesn't like to hear himself sing or something? Like he talked about The Man post SeGa I guess because people still play it A LOT and maybe he is a bit embarrassed. He gives his fans a tease with the song now lol. Like last year at his fan meeting Binnie also sings this song too from Friends Our League: english translations: Spoiler Honestly, he is a good singer but don't want to join Jinnie in trying to sing the song they don't know during TN promo period. Just laughs at Jinnie instead as she is struggling to sing the song that she doesn't know the lyrics too You can tell with Binnie he does like to practice the songs he has to sing before he sings it.. Honestly, I wonder how he is like singing karaoke with Jinnie. At least he is with people he knows and it is less embarrassing Since this was brought up on instagram recently, here is another song for them: People fall in love in mysterious ways Maybe just the touch of a hand Well me, I fall in love with you every single day I just wanna tell you I am So honey nowTake me into your loving armsKiss me under the light of a thousand starsPlace your head on my beating heartI'm thinking out loudMaybe we found love right where we are Here's the instagram video to it 7 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cream_Moki Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 7 hours ago, Peony22 said: I agree with you if they keep on considering other people how about their own happiness.. We only meet our match once in our lifetime and we all can see that both YJ and HB are already in marrying stage probably a little bit late already..they spent there whole 20yrs building their carreer i think it is about time they focus their own happiness and if I were them and happens to meet my destined person i will take a risk coz i know its a risk that worth fighting for... I do not care about the future the most important is the present the happiness and love and not regretting anything. Hoping both of them surpass those career barriers in taking a life leaping decision that will change their life for happiness sake:)) So true! I think both HB and SYJ are already so stable in their career that getting married won't affect their career. They already have global recognition thanks to CLOY, so what makes people think them getting married will ruin their career because a small circle of people are unhappy about it? They gained so many fans from CLOY qll over the world who will be so happy if they end up together in real life. Remember in life, you can't please everyone and there will be haters no matter what...so just focus on your own happiness and people who really matter to you and love you because in the end they are the ones who will stand by you forever. 7 1 8 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post hallyu Posted September 17, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 17, 2020 (edited) I believe that YJ did not make it easy for HB before she opened her heart for him. HB did things that he has never done in public before for YJ. What he has done for YJ is very meaningful as he is a person who is careful with his public image/ does not show much his real personality to the public. He was ready to risk his image for YJ. But she is YJ, so nothing to lose. But I think it's good that she challenged him before she accepted him. Men normally like being challenged/ like chasing, not like being chased by women. Before Sept He looked forward to eating lunch with her, waited for her after he had finished his filming, sent her a food truck 3 Sept He picked up water, electric wire, microphone for her 10 Sept He made bold compliments/ flirted YJ in front of media 17 Sept He bowed to SITR staff and said that he watched the drama 18 Sept He made a funny jump to be near YJ. Director said that HB seems to like YJ more 22 Sept He waited for her outside the bus and held her hands for a while before leaving. He did aegyo with her (h said he could not do it before) in many selfies Spoiler She started make their 1st selfie on her IG. He made another funny jump to come closer to her faster At Swoon interview: HB said something he always want but it's not easy to get, then he looked at YJ twice. My interpretation: he might have proposed her but she had not yet accept at that time, but she accepted it after CLOY. Spoiler HB: “I like girls who love to laugh because I am very dull". He is laughing all the time when he is with YJ. Spoiler Edited September 19, 2020 by MinLyn Please put more than 3 images in spoiler tags. This includes embedded tweets and YT videos. Thanks. 10 3 9 8 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baylack Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 What time is it? It's chuckle time!!! What one Twitter poster referenced as having the TN crackhead edition feels. I'm not quite sure I would phrase it that way but when you view it, you can see why they'd say that.: Replying to @pinkeonjin ning@eonjinnie the negotiation feels but crackhead edition 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post blue velvet Posted September 17, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 17, 2020 while many pp has different interpretations of their relationship journey,i personally think that they started out as friends and started developing feelings for each other during the TN promos(unexpectedly).I don't think there was something between them during the TN filming,because Bin was having a girlfriend at that time( maybe they had a slight crush on each others,who knows?)Then,they met each other again and feeling blossomed as they discovered they shared similar views on many things ,and also they understood each others so well without taking too much effort to communicate.Mutual understanding brought them closer together and they started realizing that the other person has many charming sides they has never seen before.They might have doubts and skeptics before entering the relationship due to many struggles of being extremely well known celebrities. Yejin even expressed her dislike for dating actors but now everything has changed . After all,they love each other and their relationship are still going strong after 2 years. 14 5 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Seriya Posted September 17, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 17, 2020 14 hours ago, TotoroSY said: - Carol Cheng then started to say that she don't think they will get married (don't worry, she don't think like this anymore cuz by Feb 21st she is hoping they will get married haha). Reason she gave is that both are Top Tier actors, and them being together is just too overwhelming and too much pressure (as everyone hope for them to be together). Also they have spent 20 years building their career to their current status, and though CLOY is a big success for them, they've also experienced career slumps before, and not every work is successful, so they will need to be extra careful in handling relationships. If anything happens, it will also impact their team (manager, PA, stylists etc) which is a big team relying on them for their livelihood. And if they marry and later split (she gave example of other celeb couples), there will be a big impact on their career, standing in the industry and also their team. She said sometimes it may be better star couples just stay friends. But when asked if she thinks they are together, she said their chemistry in CLOY is just too great, including their BTS,.... (i think she believe they have strong feelings for each other, or even dating). But they may still need to consider very carefully before deciding to get married. @TotoroSY Thanks for your detailed recap. Kinda funny that quite a few of us know and are discussing CC here hehe. I'm not old enough to know how it was when people were shipping CC and Chow Yun Fat due to them playing a memorable onscreen couple in a hit drama, but I do remember being shocked to find out CC was dating Lui Fong in real life! They just seemed such opposites in every way and not the kind of person I expected CC would be attracted to! (And now Lui Fong is married to a much younger woman after their break up and even becoming a dad in his 50s!) CC also had rumours with another onscreen partner because they had such great onscreen chemistry, but I don't think they were ever together in real life. I mention CC's love life history here as a kind of reflection and cautionary tale on how people on the outside, who don't know these celebrities and actors in real life, should proceed with caution in making assumptions about the love lives of strangers. Just my pov. In CC's case she was never with the actors people thought she was with and was in fact with someone totally unexpected in real life. Of course that's just her case, and there are others where rumoured couples were in fact together. My point is it's all too easy to get swept up in great onscreen or even offscreen chemistry between actors and then want them to be together and have a happy ending in real life. I get wanting that. But chemistry doesn't always equal compatibility. I just never let myself forget that I don't know any of these people so would never presume to know whether they are in fact a good fit for each other. Some people can be great on screen, on paper etc. but end up just being good friends for whatever reason that we won't know. I'm not saying that is the case with BinJin; I'm saying I'm comfortable with not making any assumptions or drawing any conclusions myself. Not until it comes from the horse's mouth. Others may approach fandom differently. To each their own. As for what CC said about the pressures of 2 famous actors being together and why they may be reluctant to do so, I completely get her point. Tbh, I would be surprised if SYJ didn't have similar concerns. But then again, I don't let myself forget I don't know SYJ in real life, so maybe she's a free spirit who throws caution to the wind lol. Just going from her past interviews, it seems she would have those concerns about dating a fellow actor. Which actress wouldn't? That's nothing to do with HB, just I understand a woman at SYJ's age would make decisions of the heart carefully and there are various things to consider. Dating anyone as a celebrity is complicated, dating another celebrity extra complicated, dating someone in the same profession as a woman can also add complication (the competition/comparison), as can working together (if) while you are dating. There can be pressure to get married at that age, but also a real pleasure at the freedom and independence that comes with not being married. And for someone as private as SYJ who has never revealed anything about her private life, I imagine being under the intense media and fan scrutiny that dating a fellow celebrity would bring, can't not weigh on her mind. Can you live and love freely under all that scrutiny? I was reading an interview with Lee Jung Hyun, one of SYJ's Cinderella friends, from her wedding that SYJ attended. LJH was asked if a female artist friend received the bride's wedding bouquet and she said all her friends are married and those who are not did not want to get married yet. SYJ and GHY are the only 2 in the group who are not married. Then again, LJH also said that SYJ congratulated her a lot on her marriage and was very happy for her and she did not know if her single friends were jealous of her and that her friends recommended she get married. This was in 2019. I don't want to read too much into any passing comment or incident and our thoughts can change at any time! Is anyone in SYJ's Cinderella group married to someone also in the entertainment industry, a fellow actor? Or are they all married to successful businessman/professionals in other professions as often seems to be the case with actresses? Maybe her friends' experiences influences SYJ's thinking a bit though everyone is of course different. Maybe they've set her up on blind dates in the past, who knows. I thought it was interesting how LJH shared that her actress friends met her then boyfriend and gave her their OK on him so to speak and she valued their opinions. If SYJ and HB are really together, then I think that's great and wish them the very best. They have the ingredients in the eyes of strangers of being a good match. If they are just good friends, then I think that's great too. Genuinely. Only they can know if it's meant to be. Is there anywhere I can see what posts SYJ liked on her liking spree? I am curious! 9 hours ago, eLizza said: @TotoroSY thanks for your effort.. Btw ,I think @ sonkian is a Soompi member as well. So yeah she would also be happy to read ur elaborate post . On a side note...Whaaatttt!! Son Ye Jin actually visited North Korea.. She visited NK in 2005 to film a video related to the unification of the two Koreas. I don't think she went to Pyongyang or entered mainland NK, but atleast she set her foot there. Yejin clearly said that she hoped for the re-unification to happen soon. My god little did she know that in the future,14 years later, she will contribute more to this cause when her character in a drama Crash Landed in NK. I think this was also one reason why she chose to work in CLOY. I never believed in Destiny or such things but HB and SYJ are surely changing my perception towards this concept. Also ,this drama really helped many people become aware of the situation in Korean Peninsula.. https://n.news.naver.com/entertain/article/001/0001154618 What a fascinating tidbit. Is that video she was a part of available anywhere online? Unfortunately, I believe that Kaesong facility was blown up this year by NK govt. 14 hours ago, Intuition1 said: Yes, I agree. I watched a lot of SYJ's projects both drama and film. I consider myself a connoisseur on the art of films and TV series. I get bored easily with most things I watch mainly due to the sub-par acting in those productions. When I discovered SYJ many years ago, she became my favorite actress mainly because of her talent in acting. Although I saw her playing many different characters and knowing so much about her, she was so good at acting each character she played, to the point I did not see SYJ, but the character she was playing. This talent is rare and only few actors can really pull it off. She makes bad productions watchable. Like if the director is not good, or the writing is not good, she makes it good somewhat. It's rare to find an actor who is great at both comedy and drama, and I feel she definitely demonstrated her skill in both in CLOY. (And well matched by talented HB!) I get why she said she watched many comedy skits to prepare for the role of Seri because Seri is a funny, unpredictable character. Actors often say comedy is harder to get right, to make people laugh, and not get the tone wrong or come off annoying, and I thought SYJ/writer got it right in CLOY to make Seri a funny and endearing character and not just a spoiled rich girl cliche. My favourite part about SYJ's acting is her very expressive eyes and i am most impressed by how well she can calibrate the emotion to a scene, especially with getting the crying right over many takes and crying in different ways for different emotional scenes. HB's acting challenge was different in a way, to bring a restrained character to life, with charisma and even humour at times, and I thought he did a great job too. Without 2 talented partners in crime, you can't get the amazing chemistry we did. 14 4 2 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QueenieBee Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 2 hours ago, Seriya said: I mention CC's love life history here as a kind of reflection and cautionary tale on how people on the outside, who don't know these celebrities and actors in real life, should proceed with caution in making assumptions about the love lives of strangers. Just my pov. In CC's case she was never with the actors people thought she was with and was in fact with someone totally unexpected in real life. Thanks for bringing up CC's love life as a reference - that's always good point to keep in mind when shipping. We know very little of these peoples lives. I do think most Binjin shippers understand their onscreen chemistry, while great, is not enough to prove a relationship. This is why we always goes back to #InGroceryWeTrust (which happened before CLOY). Their on-screen chemistry, BTS, and interactions during interviews, etc... only helped to reinforce what was already suspected. Quote As for what CC said about the pressures of 2 famous actors being together and why they may be reluctant to do so, I completely get her point. Tbh, I would be surprised if SYJ didn't have similar concerns. But then again, I don't let myself forget I don't know SYJ in real life, so maybe she's a free spirit who throws caution to the wind lol. Just going from her past interviews, it seems she would have those concerns about dating a fellow actor. Agreed. Also, I'm pretty sure SYJ has said that in a past interview - about not wanting to date a fellow actor. I think most actors would avoid that if possible. Not just because of the pressures involved, but because logistically, it's hard when two people have busy careers that involve travel and working all hours of the day/overnight at times. A lot of Hollywood couples who make it work say they can't both have projects at the same time, otherwise they would never see each other. But that involves a lot of sacrifice not all are willing to make. It's actually lot simpler for an actor to date someone with a much more stable 9-5 type of job. But this is all logic-based and sometimes the heart wants what it wants no matter how much you try to avoid it. I think if you are an actor and end up meeting a fellow actor at the right time and place and fall in love, with a mature understanding of what it involves to make it work, well anything is possible. Quote Is anyone in SYJ's Cinderella group married to someone also in the entertainment industry, a fellow actor? Yes, Lee Ming Jung is married to Lee Byung Hun, probably one of the biggest actors in SK. 16 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElectricHearts Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 @Seriya @QueenieBee one of LMJ's co stars recently shared (it is in recent soompi news) that LBH would always sent videos of their son. So LMJ would always be watching them on set everyday.. It made the co star think more on marriage and having a family. So I can only imagine what seeing this family happy life between actors does to Jinnie - as we know she started changing her thoughts of marriage in different interviews during 2018 So yes marriage in the industry is hard but it can work out especially knowing how busy LBH has been in his career still even after getting married and having a family 15 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kari Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 21 hours ago, TotoroSY said: Now onto a totally different topic! I found this on twitter (credit @ sonkaian at twitter) and wanted to share it here cuz it's such an insightful POV about YJ's awesome acting in CLOY esp her comedic timing and how she acted this whole scene alone. Carol Cheng is a super top tier veteran actress and host in HK, so to me, her words carry a lot of weight. Carol Cheng has also become a big CLOY fan and Binjin shipper, which I have known for awhile through other IG/ twitter posts and comments. Have been looking for her radio program links so I can listen to what she said about CLOY and Binjin, and thanks to @ sonkaian, I've finally found it, YAY!! Thank you sonkaian! I have listened to a few of them and will post a summary translations of the key highlights. Omo.....I had feeling that was you @TotoroSY. That twitter user.... is me. I learned about Carol Cheng praising SYJ on Feb 18 through some Weibo YJ fans. The other dates I told you about where she talked about CLOY, specifically on June 9th, were shared to me by @Wol-sook. On June 9th, she talked about YJ's liking spree.....and briefly mentioned reconciliation news. LOL If I have time I'll translate it. CC is just as anxious as us about BinJin confirmation. And there was one bit where the ex was mentioned....was seriously the highlight of the whole segment for me. I'm trying to see how I can translate it and share it without breaking Soompi rules hahahaha EDIT: oh nvm @TotoroSY I didn't see that you translated the June 9th one in the last page. Awesome! lol good job in avoiding the reconciliation news.... 14 1 2 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Kari Posted September 17, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 17, 2020 I always have trouble doing multi-quote from different pages, so I have to make another post. 21 hours ago, TotoroSY said: Summary translation of Carol Cheng's radio program talking about CLOY and Binjin Her radio program is called 口水多過浪花 (which literally translates to "More drool than spray" haha). Some background : Carol Cheng, who is a top tier veteran actress and host in HK, became a mega CLOY fan, and also a Binjin shipper/ supporter. She was part of the HK TVB drama peak era in the 80s, together with Chow Yuen Fatt (who was her frequent co-star) and later became a super host. One of the smartest, wittiest and funniest entertainer in C-ent, I love watching her acting and hosting. So to listen to her GUSH over CLOY, SYJ and later HB (she became his fan after CLOY, but has always been a YJ fan), and how she is like us hoping for Binjin to get married, is such an awesome thing to hear!! As she is a veteran in the entertainment industry, her words do carry a lot of weight and insight. Some of her thoughts might feel uncomfortable at first but she say it based on her own POV and her observation of the entertainment industry, so do read it with an open mind. For those who understand cantonese, you can also go have a listen to the radio show as per link and dates below. You will have to search/ fast forward for the segments on CLOY/ Binjin as its within a 1 hour plus program. But it's well worth it cuz Carol Cheng and her co-hosts' discussion and banter is so funny, witty and entertaining. ---- So far, I have listened to the June 9th, and then backwards to the Feb 18th and 21st shows. I think Feb 18th is the first time she talked about CLOY and Binjin (after the CLOY finale). Here's a summary translation : * (Please note as it is not word-for-word translation, there may be errors. If you notice errors, please feel free to let me know and correct me!) : Yep! Carol Cheng is a multi-awarded, veteran actress from Hong Kong. She came to fame around the early 80s and has starred in many hit-dramas and some movies that were box office hits. Her most notable onscreen partner is Chow Yun-Fat. Many people thought they were dating that time or wanted them to date. I guess this shipping business thing has existed since the dawn of time lol CC hasn't filmed anything since 2002 because she thinks there aren't good scripts anymore (at least for her) lol so her focus has turned to hosting variety and radio shows. I think any Cantonese person who has seen her host a show knows how quick witted she is. I've only seen a few of her works since she's more of my parents' generation, but I've always admired her hardworking and no-BS attitude (she pretty much learned English on her own and she is extremely fluent). CC may not be as internationally recognized but she's even more senior to big names like Tony Leung, Andy Lau, and Maggie Cheung (she did a couple of movies with MC) so she is very respected by her peers and audience. In the recent years, she started to "keep up" with the trends and got really into K-ent. She even went to BTS's concert and Gong Yoo's HK fanmeeting in 2017: https://hk.celebrity.yahoo.com/化身粉絲上台-嘟姐冧爆孔劉-坐咁近-佢仲靚仔呀-125100414.html https://ol.mingpao.com/ldy/showbiz/latest/20170506/1494075300474/【香港見面會】do姐驚喜現身撐孔劉 She's also invited several Korean stars (mainly boy band members I think) to her radio show. She's said on her radio show that she really wants HB to have a fanmeeting in Hong Kong again and she'll definitely go (and I saw on IG that she'll definitely go and meet YJ too). The funny thing is, I read an IG comment saying that many years ago, she refused to watch MLFTS because she thought the plot was "childish" LOL But her stance has obviously changed, as it's pretty evident from her radio shows that she's watched it (when the other female co-host compared CLOY to MLFTS as they're both written by Park Ji-Eun). Anyway! I'm saying all of this to emphasize that we have a famous, veteran actress shipping BinJin just like us and OPENLY talking about them on her radio show. So when people call us delusional, I guess she's delusional as well? And just like us, she knows about BinJin's TN collaboration /promo days/grocery shopping so I'm sure she knows their love didn't start from a love drama and isn't just shipping them because of CLOY's chemistry. And if in the end we all turned out to be clowns, I guess I'm happy that a veteran actress and I were once clowns together. By the way, this is one of the few BinJin things the radio show's official Facebook page posted: The caption (in the screen shot) says "CLOY Season 2, Do姐 thinks they are a match made in heaven, Hyun Bin plus Son Ye Jin!" (FYI - Do姐 aka "Sister Do" is her nickname and pretty much what everyone calls her by). I follow Carol Cheng on IG. At one point after CLOY, she even followed at least SEVEN BinJin accounts hahaha She even followed their hashtags. I think she's since unfollowed the accounts and hashtags (prior to June 9th) but she still talked about them on June 9th, which means she didn't drop shipping. She just likes to follow whatever she likes at that moment. Like she was also following the timotheechalamet hashtag but she no longer follows it lol Quote Feb 18, 2020 http://www.hkfm.info/口水多過浪花2020-02-18.html#more-20715 - She has always been a fan of SYJ and know she is a good actress, but now after CLOY she is also a HB fan cuz he acted so well. Before that she has not really watch his works and have only see his action shows (I guess films?), thot he is an action actor, but never thot he can act so well. - And now the whole world, millions of fans are hoping for HB and SYJ to get married. - Then she started talking about Binjin chemistry, and why so many fans want them to get married. Carol said that HB fans who call themselves Mrs Hyun even said they will agree if HB marries YJ. - Carol explained to the other DJs about how Binjin debut almost at the same time 20 years ago, and YJ even debuted earlier. They then filmed TN in 2017 together (she explained how the film via monitor) and the TN promo happened where they travel in the bus together, and HB who is known as being rather stiff, ended up doing all the selfies, funny apps, wind-blow selfies with YJ. Many say how good they look together. Usually for top stars, after working once together, that is all. But HB said during the promo that he wants to film again with SYJ, and wants to act in a rom.com with her. - During Sept 2018, you can see SYJ celebrating birthday with HB. Then in Jan 2019, it is SYJ's birthday, and the January rumour and LA grocery sighting happened, and everyone was very happy thinking they will admit but in the end they still denied. Thinking that was it, but a few months later both of them accepted to star in CLOY together. - The 2nd lady MC Valerie said that many of her friends who never watch Kdramas, tell her to watch CLOY and how CLOY is the first Kdrama for them and keep saying how good it is and how addicted they are. Carol Cheng said that HB acts as a warm NK soldier and met YJ, and their r/s development while they are not dating but still have a lot of chemistry. The male DJ said HB's eye gaze is so attractive etc etc (haha, even guys get attracted to HB's gazes). - Carol Cheng then started to say that she don't think they will get married (don't worry, she don't think like this anymore cuz by Feb 21st she is hoping they will get married haha). Reason she gave is that both are Top Tier actors, and them being together is just too overwhelming and too much pressure (as everyone hope for them to be together). Also they have spent 20 years building their career to their current status, and though CLOY is a big success for them, they've also experienced career slumps before, and not every work is successful, so they will need to be extra careful in handling relationships. If anything happens, it will also impact their team (manager, PA, stylists etc) which is a big team relying on them for their livelihood. And if they marry and later split (she gave example of other celeb couples), there will be a big impact on their career, standing in the industry and also their team. She said sometimes it may be better star couples just stay friends. But when asked if she thinks they are together, she said their chemistry in CLOY is just too great, including their BTS,.... (i think she believe they have strong feelings for each other, or even dating). But they may still need to consider very carefully before deciding to get married. - Carol also brought up how earlier HB talked about if he has a girlfriend, he will do something special for her during her birthday, and so looks like now he has done it (you can see that Carol is torn btwn being worried about Binjin and the impact their relationship will have on each other, and how she also thinks and wants them to be together) MY THOTS : I think Carol Cheng's thots on marriage for Binjin is very rational and practical. She is after all a big star herself when she was young, and know the trappings and risks of being a star and idol. One of the male DJ actually raised up that she and frequent co-star Chow Yuen Fatt was also a couple that fans hope will become real life. But she said that for them, they have always only been good friends and colleagues so nothing happened. She also said that just like SYJ, fans always wish she will date each of her co-star (haha). Anyway, this is only her thots and i guess she is cautious about marriage between such Top stars. Which I believe is the reason why Binjin is taking it very very slowly, and keeping it very very private, cuz their actions has major impact not just on themselves but others around them, including family, staff and fans. Quote Feb 21, 2020 http://www.hkfm.info/口水多過浪花2020-02-21.html#more-20760 - This program on 21 Feb has a lot of funny and happy discussion. - Another friend of the 2nd female DJ who started watching CLOY and sent her a voice message (she played it) saying her husband said he lost his wife and her son said he lost her mom, and all she does is cry while watching it. - One of the male DJ is also got addicted to CLOY and cried 3 times watching it. - One friend (of Valerie's, the 2nd female DJ) was promoted to watch CLOY at 11pm, so he started watching and ended up watching till 12 pm next day. This friend said that: firstly, he has never cried so much and secondly, he has not hold the same position for 12 hours for so long (haha!). - Then Carol said that for her who have finished watching, it feels like she is suffering from a break-up (loss of love) lol!! - On top of the funny stories about CLOY gushing, there is also an amusing one about HB. So Carol Cheng said they must invite this "professor" who is an expert on NK. Carol said she wants to know if there are really guys all over the street like HB in NK, if yes she will immediately go over there (haha). - The male DJ then said, HB is the ideal man, tall and broad shouldered, and killer eye gaze. He also said that his eyes seems to be always watery, then carol add he hold the tears and then at the right time the tears will roll out. The male DJ said his eyes seems to be reddish at the bottom, and it's natural, not make-up, always watery. Carol add she don't know how he does it. When he looks at you its always watery, and as soon its close-up the tears will fall down. - Then Carol said they are too matching (HB and YJ) and their chemistry is too strong, and though the 2nd OTP is also good, but HB and SYJ is just too strong and steal every scene, and she also hope they will get married. Yep! Although CC said on Feb 18th that she didn't believe BinJin would get married, she was coming from a very rational, practical perspective, especially one as an actress. It is certainly a perspective that we, as shoppers, need. There was one line she said that stuck out to me. It was "you have to calculate love." I would agree with that statement. There's definitely a lot of things to worry about as A-listers. HB and YJ are probably the celeb that is the most famous in their respective agencies, which means they also pull in the most revenue. Also they have a whole team of people working for them. They can't afford to act irrationally. This is why I laugh at those who make fun of us for the denials etc. It really means they don't understand the industry at all. Of course, CC's stance has changed and she is now a full-fledged BinJin shipper. This means that she must've saw something in them that made her throw in her full support. @/binjinshearteu on Twitter (and IG) translated a segment from Feb 18th. This is how much she knows about BinJin LOL she is totally a shipper. By the way, I just want to make a slight correction to the content above. Valerie isn't the second female host. The second female host is called Ma Lei. Valerie is CC's gym buddy whom CC recommends dramas to. CC played a voice message that Valerie left her which said her husband and kids thought they lost a wife and a mother because she was so invested in CLOY I think forget whether it was from the voice message or CC said it herself that Valerie was running and crying on the treadmill while watching CLOY hahaha. Quote June 9, 2020 http://www.hkfm.info/口水多過浪花2020-06-09.html#more-22758 - This is where Carol Cheng brought up SYJ's IG liking incident, how she liked 40 IG posts/ pix of her and HB, after the BAA was over a few days ago. - It's just a funny exchange amongst the 4 DJs, trying to figure out why SYJ did all the likes. And Carol said she herself has never liked other IG posts so what SYJ did was quite a unique thing as SYJ has not done such liking spree before. - Carol Cheng kept wondering and asking why SYJ did that, since she never liked so many before, and it's all her pix with HB! Carol Cheng kept asking her fellow DJs what they think it means, is she ready to admit to the relationship? (the other DJs are basically quite useless in their replies haha!) - One of the male DJ kept saying he is worried about HB fans not agreeing (to HB being with SYJ) but Carol Cheng said most of them are OK with it ie supportive of binjin. - (*Carol also briefly brought up the fake rumour but won't put it in here) NOTE: I am still not entirely satisfied with the translation summary above, so may come back and add/ amend it after I listen to the program on 9th June again. I have played the June 9th part at least 5 times...because it was just so good. Especially in light of the....ahem shipping wars that happened in July and second round of fake recon news, listening to that segment was just medicine for me after all that crap haha. That June 9th segment is so great because you can tell CC was just as anxious as us, dissecting and analyzing YJ's liking spree. Also, although the other hosts were pretty much useless, @Wol-sook pointed out to me that Ma Lei did say that "doesn't liking mean confirmation?" to which CC replied "but as long as they don't confirm, it's not official." hahahaha But CC hasn't talked about BinJin (not that I know of) for a while. I was worried she would drop the ship because of the second round of fake news that happened in July. But since she knows about the liking spree, I'm pretty sure she's read HB's denials as well. I almost wanted to DM CC that this ship is still sailing! But I didn't because she's much older than me, I'm sure she'll figure it out. Also she's inside the HK industry where there's lots of interactions with Korean stars...if anything I'm sure she gets inside scoops about celebrities that us commoners don't. I firmly believe there are no secrets in the entertainment industry. Even though she has never met Binnie or Jinnie herself, she knows people who have. It's just a matter of how much they can keep it from the public. Anyway, it as actually on my bucket list to translate those interviews for everyone hahaha But I kept putting it off. when I finally had the time, I translated the Feb 28th one where CC praised YJ's performance first. It was only a 2-3 min segment but it took me a whole hour to translate everything word for word. I commend @TotoroSY for your efforts! 15 3 4 2 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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