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[Drama 2018] Thirty But Seventeen, 서른이지만열일곱입니다

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the moment he turn my eyes filled with tears crying1-onion-head-emoticon.gif?12928624

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WJ x SR are meant to be LOL she talked to him in the bus because of that besides  it didnt seem that she was getting of the bus anyway because he was still there embarrassed1-onion-head-emoticon.gif?129

so it was the truck driver the one who cause accident he was paying SR hospital bill where is he uncle ??

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2 hours ago, midjohn33 said:

ktcjdrama, we already knew ri an was smart she surprised jennifer once by identifying the author of one of jennifers obscure quotes

I did guess that there's more to her than meets the eye because of the Cicero quote, but I would never have guessed she is a repeat national high-school top-scorer.

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1 minute ago, ktcjdrama said:

I did guess that there's more to her than meets the eye because of the Cicero quote, but I would never have guessed she is a repeat national high-school top-scorer.

 

I liked her from the start, besides showing a little jealousy towards SR she didn’t do anything bad. She’s genuinely concerned about Chan and always cheers on him. When she recognised Cicero’s quote it should’ve been a hint to us that she’s an excellent student. I never found her annoying, actually I’m a little sad we didn’t get to know her better.

 

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23 minutes ago, aisling said:

I liked her from the start, besides showing a little jealousy towards SR she didn’t do anything bad. She’s genuinely concerned about Chan and always cheers on him. When she recognised Cicero’s quote it should’ve been a hint to us that she’s an excellent student. I never found her annoying, actually I’m a little sad we didn’t get to know her better.

Well for the record, I loved her from when she gave Seo-Ri all those itMICHA brand pretty clothes (like the Wizard of Oz Dorothy outfit when Seo-Ri was going to feed the fish in fair exchange for housing and was fanning herself and I was going crazy fangirling it). I even loved Ri-An with her bag over her head, and as for her despising weird looking hairy guys that act strangely with a ruler enough to have permanent aversion to Mr Gong, l'll let it slide. I'm sure she'll clear up her confusion soon and grow to like him - that' d be funny if she develops feelings for Mr Gong like Chan did for Seo-Ri, haha. But most of all I'm happy about this quick development because this means the writer-nim is going to take care of oori Chan - so that he can continue to just eat large amounts of food and work out, and he can sit behind Ri-An on the scooter and not have to think about complicated things like gps navigation at all for the rest of his life, because thinking causes him pain, and we wouldn't want cutie Chan to grow old prematurely from such pains. :tounge_xd:

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1 hour ago, aisling said:

I liked her from the start, besides showing a little jealousy towards SR she didn’t do anything bad. She’s genuinely concerned about Chan and always cheers on him. When she recognised Cicero’s quote it should’ve been a hint to us that she’s an excellent student. I never found her annoying, actually I’m a little sad we didn’t get to know her better.

Agree... She is so cute in her persistent way to pursue Chan. Chan and his friends treat her well too. Never annoyed at her nor avoid her. Rowing coach even wondered who the coach is when she was cheering the team on her bike, lol.

Her reaction to WJ measuring the bench she is sitting is also natural. Good for her to know to defend herself from a "pervert". I can't wait for her to face him without having to fear disapproval. Don't worry girl, Uncle Mr.Gong probably don't remember you, and even if he did, he won't mind you because he's just that big-hearted guy.

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OK, finally watched the episode with subs. I love that the truck driver felt guilt and paid for SR's hospital fees when her own family abandoned her. Maybe the uncle is truly dead but I can't make excuses for the aunt. She selfishly and willingly abandoned SR and I find that disgusting. Yes, I know she must have wanted to move on but SR was in coma and she pretended to be her mom at least when SR was going to be a famous violinist and earn big bucks. Sorry, this may not be about greed but I am cynical and lack faith in humanity due to personal experience so I am thinking the worse of her. If she really had been like SR's mother, she would have never abandoned her, because no matter what mothers can't do that.

 

I was exasperated with WJ a little but I do understand his POV and why his first move was to distance himself from SR and run away. It's a good thing he loves her too much to leave her. He was ready to stay even in the face of her hate and blame. That, right there is character growth. LOVE that they fell for each other when they were kids. I am a sucker for childhood connections and it seems I am choosing shows with them, inadvertently.

 

Now, coming to Chan..I hope he and Ri An become a couple. She is a sweetheart and I was one of those who never disliked her. I think she would make a good GF for him since she keeps his well being above her need for attention from him.

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What I like about this drama is there's no villain causing the all the angst and sadness but rather reality of what we call life.  Also, despite the story being so sad (like all those lives affected by the accident), every episode ending always leave me with a warm and happy feeling.  I will describe this drama as being very warm, full of love and full of heart type of a drama.

 

Episode 14 was the best so far for me.  Truly a crescendo. 

 

Special shout-out to the young WJ and young Chan crying scene.  Here you can see the special relationship between Chan and his uncle and even though young Chan didn't understand, he can feel that his uncle is deeply hurt and that moment strongly affected him as well, becoming the dominant memory of his childhood.

  

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thanks ktcjdrama. you can tell im no scholar cos i couldnt remember the author of the quote at all. i had marcus aurelius on the brain. 

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I just finished reading 4-5 pages since I logged off for the night after dealing with so many ninja onions flying around like there's no tomorrow. You guys are definitely the best and I'm really glad I joined this forum :wub: (even though I'm still learning the ropes). 

 

I left this comment on a fan account on IG. I can wholeheartedly say that this drama broke all the clichés we usually see in kdramas, and that's why I really love it. It is totally different from any other I have watched and I don't think I will ever get tired of watching it time and again. 

 

The OST... Well, what else can I say? Each of the songs represents each (both of the) character(s) to a T. Thank you to whoever decided on these songs.

 

All the actors are really good and like in anime that I also like to watch, THIS is one of the best takes of the 'slice of life' genre. I mean, hey, I would love to have a boss like HS and that kind of working environment, would love to have someone like Jennifer. I do have a nephew near the age of Chan-Chan, but uh... I would love to have a nephew like him lol. Best of all, who wouldn't want a GWJ (okay, as an uncle too lol)?

 

I take back all the whining/whinge I did the other day :sweatingbullets:

 

Gah, I don't know what I'd do with myself once this drama ends. Will it be back to 'I don't like Mondays' or what? 

 

I really hope YSJ and SHS pair up again in another project (okay, I ship them lol). Their acting is just way too good and omg, yay for no fake tears or forced ones (can't stand them <_<). How will I ever watch their previous works now after this one??

 

Right, time to switch off fangirling mode and go back to being a responsible adult (what's that?)

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5 hours ago, Prettysup said:

One question, does this drama have 32 or 36 or 40 episodes ?

Three different sources tell me different answers.

 

Next SBS drama for that time slot Where Stars Land is slotted to premiere 1Oct...so potentially it could end on Tue 18Sept (32 eps) or go another week Tue 25Sept.

 

http://m.programs.sbs.co.kr/drama/wherestarsland

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4 hours ago, xxPeepsxx said:

 

Sorry, the official name for the stamp is a 'Seal', haha.

 

Eh... actually, seals are more "secure" than even signatures and commonly used for official and serious business. Seals are generally custom made by traditional artists (each generally cost about $100 to make) and because they're made from what is essentially non-uniform natural materials like wood, metal... etc, even if two seals of the same design and material are made, the inconsistencies in the material results in differences in the resulting imprint. You just have to look carefully. This is like forensic science: which boot made this imprint in the blood?

There was actually a case where the Supreme Court threw out a case of a will handwritten and signed but not stamped with a seal. It called the will invalid. :huh:

 

Thanks for the explanation. I have wondered for the longest time for both Japanese and Koreans, just how they could trust the seal when it could be forged, but I totally overlooked the fact that it can't be exactly the same when it's hand carved on natural materials. That lit the lightbulb haha

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Rewatched the last two episodes and shout out to the child actors. They are all amazingly talented! Can't wait to see them grow up and lead their own shows in the future. :thumbsup:

 

BTW, imagine if one of our crazy theories of multiple identities had come true. I mean it's so hard to juggle multiple identities. It takes real talent to change everything, the way you speak, write, the way you form sentences and especially your personality. I mean, for example; if a person is a know it all, it's hard for them to hide it. Especially when they crave attention and constant validation. They just can't stop themselves from showing off constantly.

 

So it's a good thing we got a simple storyline in the show and the uncle didnot become someone else as a twist. :D

 

9 minutes ago, Dramanoona said:

Yes. It looks like the new drama begins on the 1st. So it's two more weeks. Unless they are going to have a special in the second week.

Didn't someone say that it's Chuseok in the last week of September and no programs will air on 24/25?

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27 minutes ago, YourHighness . said:

Rewatched the last two episodes and shout out to the child actors. They are all amazingly talented! Can't wait to see them grow up and lead their own shows in the future. :thumbsup:

 

BTW, imagine if one of our crazy theories of multiple identities had come true. I mean it's so hard to juggle multiple identities. It takes real talent to change everything, the way you speak, write, the way you form sentences and especially your personality. I mean, for example; if a person is a know it all, it's hard for them to hide it. Especially when they crave attention and constant validation. They just can't stop themselves from showing off constantly.

 

So it's a good thing we got a simple storyline in the show and the uncle didnot become someone else as a twist. :D

 

Didn't someone say that it's Chuseok in the last week of September and no programs will air on 24/25?

Ahh.. I think that was me. Haha. It is Chuseok on the 24th and 25th so we will probably say farewell to our 3017 crew next week.

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@celebrianna I have to say that I suspected the truck driver to be the anonymous donor because to me, it was clear that this drama has been focusing on the topic: guilt.

GWJ was suffering from PTSD because of his guilt. He had the impression that he was the reason that his loved one had died as she had stayed on the bus. Since he witnessed the bus crashing, he felt somehow responsible. However, he never saw the real cause of the accident: the lose tires.

We saw that Jennifer was living as a robot and manual because of guilt. She lost her baby because she neglected herself due to the loss of her husband. Moreover, if her husband hadn't bought things for the baby, then he wouldn't have been involved in the accident.

Striking is that even WSR felt guilty... after reading the letter WJ left, she kept saying "because of me". He never lived a proper life as he felt responsible for her coma and the loss of time. What he didn't know was that WSR wanted to speak to him... he should have never felt responsible for that.

Even the aunt feels now remorse... she keeps saying that it wasn't her fault. Nevertheless she realizes that she has done something wrong. She did abandon her niece. But the question is: does she feel responsible for the husband's lies and later for the bankruptcy and death?

Even TR felt guilty. She resented WSR but she was always feeling uncomfortable to lie and nervous. TR was tormented as well by the past: resenting WSR for being so joyful and receiving recognition from the professor.

As for the truck driver... I can feel his pain and torment. He never wanted to cause the accident and he is just indirectly involved in the accident. Nevertheless, he can only start living again, once the families from the injured and deceased decide to show empathy and forgiveness. By meeting WSR, the truck driver will be able to hear from her that she doesn't resent him at all.

  

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4 hours ago, millicom said:

Episode 14 was the best so far for me.  Truly a crescendo. 

 

Beat me to it.

 

So she approached him on the bus with a purpose and she probably followed him on to it. If only Su Mi hadn't come on and scared him off. Didn't she ask him for directions to the Art Museum and wasn't that her subtle way of letting him know she was interested in him because she knew he was an artist?

 

To me the most powerful scenes in yesterday's episode were the last two when they were young. Those longing looks and smiles the young SR were giving him just melts my heart. I have watched the last 5 minutes over and over again and I still tear up on those last two scenes. Ahh the age of innocence.

 

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4 hours ago, midjohn33 said:

thanks ktcjdrama. you can tell im no scholar cos i couldnt remember the author of the quote at all. i had marcus aurelius on the brain. 

Thanks also for responding to me... I'm no scholar myself since I had to google marcus aurelius, LOL... So, sorry but I don't actually get what you mean by your last sentence...?

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46 minutes ago, bebebisous33 said:

@celebrianna I have to say that I suspected the truck driver to be the anonymous donor because to me, it was clear that this drama has been focusing on the topic: guilt.

GWJ was suffering from PTSD because of his guilt. He had the impression that he was the reason that his loved one had died as she had stayed on the bus. Since he witnessed the bus crashing, he felt somehow responsible. However, he never saw the real cause of the accident: the lose tires.

We saw that Jennifer was living as a robot and manual because of guilt. She lost her baby because she neglected herself due to the loss of her husband. Moreover, if her husband hadn't bought things for the baby, then he wouldn't have been involved in the accident.

Striking is that even WSR felt guilty... after reading the letter WJ left, she kept saying "because of me". He never lived a proper life as he felt responsible for her coma and the loss of time. What he didn't know was that WSR wanted to speak to him... he should have never felt responsible for that.

Even the aunt feels now remorse... she keeps saying that it wasn't her fault. Nevertheless she realizes that she has done something wrong. She did abandon her niece. But the question is: does she feel responsible for the husband's lies and later for the bankruptcy and death?

Even TR felt guilty. She resented WSR but she was always feeling uncomfortable to lie and nervous. TR was tormented as well by the past: resenting WSR for being so joyful and receiving recognition from the professor.

As for the truck driver... I can feel his pain and torment. He never wanted to cause the accident and he is just indirectly involved in the accident. Nevertheless, he can only start living again, once the families from the injured and deceased decide to show empathy and forgiveness. By meeting WSR, the truck driver will be able to hear from her that she doesn't resent him at all.  

 

I agree.  That's why I can picture the aunt and uncle getting some forgiveness, too.  Right now it's hard to understand their abandonment of Seo-ri, but we don't have all the information.  The aunt has shown that she is trying to gather the courage to contact Seo-ri.


I think it's wrong to say that Jennifer lost the child because she neglected herself.  We can't always know why miscarriages happen, and a caring doctor would not have told her that and made her feel guilty.  She should feel sorrow, for sure, but not guilt.

 

The difficulties (and guilt) in this drama have come from misunderstandings, accidents, near misses--small turns of fate.

 

Guilt can come from things we have no real control over.  Knowing that, we should be able to freely forgive.

 

 

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4 minutes ago, ktcjdrama said:

Thanks also for responding to me... I'm no scholar myself since I had to google marcus aurelius, LOL... So, sorry but I don't actually get what you mean by your last sentence...?

i remembered that ri an knew who said the quote, but  i didnt. the only name that was in my brain was aurelius for some reason. just that one word, dont know why and it took me ages to remember his first name.  ri an wouldve got it  straight away i bet

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1 hour ago, bebebisous33 said:

@celebrianna I have to say that I suspected the truck driver to be the anonymous donor because to me, it was clear that this drama has been focusing on the topic: guilt.

GWJ was suffering from PTSD because of his guilt. He had the impression that he was the reason that his loved one had died as she had stayed on the bus. Since he witnessed the bus crashing, he felt somehow responsible. However, he never saw the real cause of the accident: the lose tires.

We saw that Jennifer was living as a robot and manual because of guilt. She lost her baby because she neglected herself due to the loss of her husband. Moreover, if her husband hadn't bought things for the baby, then he wouldn't have been involved in the accident.

Striking is that even WSR felt guilty... after reading the letter WJ left, she kept saying "because of me". He never lived a proper life as he felt responsible for her coma and the loss of time. What he didn't know was that WSR wanted to speak to him... he should have never felt responsible for that.

Even the aunt feels now remorse... she keeps saying that it wasn't her fault. Nevertheless she realizes that she has done something wrong. She did abandon her niece. But the question is: does she feel responsible for the husband's lies and later for the bankruptcy and death?

Even TR felt guilty. She resented WSR but she was always feeling uncomfortable to lie and nervous. TR was tormented as well by the past: resenting WSR for being so joyful and receiving recognition from the professor.

As for the truck driver... I can feel his pain and torment. He never wanted to cause the accident and he is just indirectly involved in the accident. Nevertheless, he can only start living again, once the families from the injured and deceased decide to show empathy and forgiveness. By meeting WSR, the truck driver will be able to hear from her that she doesn't resent him at all.

  

Excellent post. I completely agree. All the other characters you mentioned we already saw their ordeal up close and personal but when I saw the truck driver last night, my heart ached for and was moved by him. His hands were dirty and it made me think that he’s been living his life not caring at all for himself. His whole demeanor suggests one who’s ashamed and guilt ridden. We know he has been living his life simply in a room and took any overtime job that will help him to continue to pay for SR’s hospital fees. I’m looking forward to seeing his meeting with SR and hearing his side of the story. 

 

And i I understand what you mean about Jennifer. She blames the loss of her baby on her inability to cope with the death of her husband. She wondered “if” she had taken better care of herself, then perhaps she would not have miscarried. “If” she had better control of her emotions etc. That’s why she finds “if” suppositions sad. 

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