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Everything posted by bebebisous33

  1. @nrllee Yes, I agree that SH seems to be the real target. First, let us not forget that SH spent 4 years in Germany with her husband. So she was far away... what if this stay in Germany had something to do with SH in the first place? First, we assumed that JSH went there and SH had just to follow him. But what if it was the opposite? JSH and KSC wanted her out of the country. Secondly, as soon as they got back, SH was sent to her father. It was as if her father's role was to protect his daughter. If so, then JSH knew that by his side, SH would get exposed to danger. Notice that once both are removed, SH is left without protection. Her mother and her father-in-law are doing nothing for her. Furthermore, after their disappearance, she was approached by two people: - the politician who worked for JQ Group - the kidnapper, the one who cut JSH's hand
  2. @wildcherry I really liked your analysis about Ms. Han. It gave a really new perception of her. She became a judge in order to get the ultimate power only to realize that power from a huge corporation is even stronger. So her harsh sentence could be seen in a different light too. On the surface, it looked like she cared for the environment and people, while in reality she wanted to demonstrate her power. She gave a harsher sentence that was asked by the prosecution office. This would explain why MWP misjudged her in the end. He thought, her verdict reflected her righteousness, while it only revealed her love for power display and her coldness.
  3. The chairman of JQ Group reproached his right-hand man In Dong Koo to be the cause of all this. This means that the latter had developed a strategy which the chairman approved but since his son has been hurt, in his eyes IDK is to blame. This makes me think that the chairman of JQ might have approved KSC's death, maybe in order to stop his son from investigating further. The woman had already been killed (faked suicide) but instead of destroying the alliance, JSH announced to his father-in-law, he will investigate in order to find where all went wrong. As conclusion, the death of the woman had the opposite effect therefore they planned the same thing for the assemblyman so that JSH would stop. If JTS hadn't found the traces on the road, he would have come to the conclusion that KSC had committed suicide. What also caught my attention were the words In Dong Koo told to Kim Pil Yeon: "Where is JSH hiding?" So the right-hand man believes that JSH has not been kidnapped but disappeared on his own volition. He heard that the hand belonged to JSH, yet IDK still thinks that JSH is not a victim and is trying to stop JQ with faking his "disappearance". Since we saw JSH running in the woods barefoot, it means that he was still close to Sonju. He definitely met someone else there. Strangely, the person who hurt and even killed JSH seems to have the same goal than JQ Group: KSH has to become an assemblywoman but I suspect for a different reason. Like I had written before, there is a third party no one is aware of at this moment.
  4. The female detective is really annoying. In the second episode, her comments were so stupid and even rude. I wished, the writer would changer her personality.
  5. @imgreatgal @triplem @nrllee In my opinion, someone tried to destroy the relationship between KSC and his son-in-law, make them turn against each other. The husband said that he would investigate where the things went wrong so the suicide of the woman was not the starting point. Besides, the conflict with the project had already occurred. In other words, the death of that woman was just the trigger for the argument which led KSH's husband to question everything. That's why I am saying that someone was interested in meddling in their alliance. Don't forget that his daughter married the chaebol for her father's career. It can not be just the work of the friend who seems to love KSH. I suspect, the company is related to their quarrel. Furthermore, I would like to point out that both victims might have been killed by two different persons.
  6. But their loyalty is based on that principal that what they are doing is not that evil.... like murdering someone. They have no idea that they are actually covering up for the murderer. Her employees are not aware that she is involved in MWP's death. They were not present, when she ensured that Mo would get a heart attack. So far, she has presented the case from 15 years ago as something that would damage MC Group. In their eyes, she might be harsh and brutal but they don't suspect her that she killed someone. They got unsettled, when Ms. Han asked to increase the pressure onto JYI indicating that they didn't like the idea.
  7. Yes, that was this scene. For KJW, reliability is important because it requires trust too. KJW has to trust GHR in order to rely on her. But his problem is that he didn't actually trust her ability, although he said the opposite. The proof is that he told her that she couldn't force the NSI director to change the order (episode 5). And even if she succeeded once, in his eyes, this didn't prove her abilities. He just saw it as a one time thing. Maybe his behavior is linked to the friend's death, deep down he fears that she might die as he doesn't want to lose someone close to his heart. As for my theory (for the greater good, sacrifice is necessary), I came to this idea because I observed that more and more people at the NSI are forced to take sides indicating that their loyalty is no longer bound to their country but to their superior. Even Shadow is forced to intervene more and more which means that at some point, he will stand in the light, he won't be a shadow any longer. So far, his identity has not been confirmed and the good guys don't even know about his existence: the Shadow, the puppet master. Strangely, I can not help myself thinking about the downfall of the Roman republic. Back then, corruption had infiltrated so much the government so that the latter neglected its commoners/normal citizens. These were suffering from poverty and unemployment due to the expansion of Roman Empire: increase of slaves, importation of cheap cereals from the new provinces aso. At some point, Marius introduced a reform of the army in order to improve the life of many impoverished peasants. The Civilian army was turned into a professional army which changed the nature of the relationship between the consul (military commander) and his soldiers. From now on, the soldiers didn't fight for Roman republic but for their consul... Their salary and reward were linked to their consul, at the end the consuls started fighting against each other. And here I can see some parallels between the Roman army and the NSI. NSI is divided, the agents are forced to choose a side, they don't care if their actions are right or wrong. At the same time, their actions are legitimated "for the sake of the country" while in reality, it is for the benefit of certain people, in this case the president and his Chief secretary Yun.
  8. @Lawyerh Wave back to you chingu! Me too, the ending scene was really well done. Honestly, I do think that KSH's husband loved her and the separation had a different reason. His reaction to her question (if he had a woman) was quite telling. Furthermore, he mentioned the death of that woman in the house where his wife lived and in front of his father-in-law therefore they had a different connection.
  9. @katakwasabi The conversation about trust with GHR was in the episode 8. Maybe I didn't express myself very well. KTW might argue with his superiors but in the end, he will follow the orders. So "stick to the rules" is his motto. Sending the recorded conversation to an assemblyman from the opposition indicates that he still believes in the actual system, hence he needs to get the support from the opposition. He somehow believes that his superior was forced by the government but there is more to it. He hasn't realized the deepness of corruption in the NSI and the government. In reality, I am even suspecting that this plane crash could have been orchestrated in order to get rid of the toxic elements at the NSI and the government. Let us not forget that we have two incidents involving the NSI that showed how hypocritical and ruthless the superiors at the NSI and the governement were: the loss of KTW's friend: the operation command violated a small rule. the case with the defectors from North Korea. These were promised something from the SK governement, yet in the end they were abandoned. This makes me wonder if in reality the true cause of his friend's death has been covered up. The command took the blame for it. As for the defectors, Kang was the one who got blamed. He is seen by the rogue soldiers as a traitor. But what if in reality, they had planned all along to trick the defectors in order to turn them into soldiers who would do the dirty work without being officials. Notice the pattern: the MO is always to present a scapegoat. Now, KJW and his wife will be the ones blamed for the plane crash (to get money through life insurance).
  10. @bedifferent @nrllee After reading your reviews about the first episode, I decided to watch the first episode. I really liked it... The characters are quite interesting and the mystery intriguing. What caught my attention is that JQ is using her father's death to push her to become an assemblywoman so that the project will come true. Since KSH looks so fragile and even "meek", they see in her the perfect puppet. However, I believe that the CEO has no idea about the true consequences of this project. The disagreement between the assemblyman KSC and his son-in-law started with the woman's death. The son-in-law didn't believe in her suicide and wanted to investigate her death. I am even suspecting that he never wanted to become the CEO for that project and had also been manipulated. I guess, the persons behind this thought that they could force the assemblyman to give in as the CEO was his son-in-law. I don't think that her husband killed her father. In fact, there is a third party involved in this. Her friend Jin Young Min knew about the disappearance of KSH's husband. JYM and the father's right man look really suspicious.
  11. I sense that for KTW, this mission will become the trigger for him to question his belief that a NSI agent has always to follow his orders. Remember that he criticized GHR because she disobeyed him. He said that he wanted to test her if he could trust her. For him, trust means that the agent has been faithfully following orders, it also means to never question the superiors. KTW never wondered why they had to investigate a certain office at the NSI agency.... and see the video was infected by a virus. KTW is the one who receives the order to get rid of CDG and the witness KWJ but he won't do it. That's why Min is forced to send an intervention FT to Morocco.
  12. First, the testimony of the KWJ is not entirely reliable. He knows that Michael is dead hence he can blame a deceased person. Nevertheless if it is true that Michael met the co-pilot, I agree with you that Michael might have not known that a plane crash was planned in reality. Like f. ex. Michael was told that the co-pilot and Jerome would ensure that the plane wouldn't arrive in Morocco... or the plane wouldn't have any passenger as it was a cargo plane. I mean, they just needed a plane from the rival company to have an accident in order to use the incident for their own product. CDG is right to question: why did his nephew have to die? I would like to add that there is still a mole among FT team, as Yoon knew that they had caught KWJ. I am now wondering whom Kang called just before his arrest. Was it EP? I am not sure if Yoon is Shadow because so far, the viewers have been misled once with Min. Maybe Shadow is working for both sides in reality. Now, the co-pilot and his wife will become the scapegoats. And I fear that the new TF team will raid the Korean Embassy in order to erase the last witnesses of the existence of a conspiracy.
  13. @katakwasabi Like I wrote last week, I can definitely imagine that Kang is working for EP. This episode seems to confirm this theory as he allowed Edward Park to be part of the interrogation. For me, EP is definitely dangerous.
  14. @bedifferent Yes, we know little about DB. First, we only know that she was abandoned by her mother but where was her father during that time? More importantly, who is her father? DB only talks about her mother who abandoned her, yet she never mentioned her father. In my opinion, she was a single mother. And unlike GP, DB does not seem to be curious about her father or even angered by him. Maybe the mother abandoned her in order to ensure her safety... what if the man was violent and after giving birth, she left him with DB as she feared that her daughter might die? Maybe a married wife on the run because she wanted to escape the abusive environment?
  15. @bedifferent I had this idea that with the discovery of the new victim (quite sure that HM is the murdered one), her mother might use this incident to deceive the police and the Joker. She lets people think that DB died. If her face is destroyed and there is DB's ID with the corpse, the police could think that DB has died. Besides, HM has no relative hence her DNA can not be compared so far. Her disappearance could be a trick to deceive the Joker.
  16. Don't you find it weird that the moment CDG saw the deceased journalist JBY, he met Edward Park a few minutes later? In my opinion, Edward Park is linked to the reporter, he faked his death. Notice that once CDG talked about the journalist to EP, he never mentioned it to GHR. In this episode, Jessica described Edward Park as a very bad person and from my point of view, EP is indeed more an evil than he seems to be. Director Min is not Shadow but it seems that he might work for him. Finally, this episode clearly indicates that GHR and CDG are an item, no more second lead syndrom... the writer made him look like a jerk. Sure, one might object that he wants to protect her but the way he talked to her or even ignored her showed disrespect.
  17. @thistle @mylovekge The other possibility is that Ms. Han has been Ms. Ha's lover in reality and wants to ensure that her son WJ becomes the heir.What if they used Insemination and Ms. Han donated her egg cell? This would maybe explain why WJ is a transgender and why he is so smart. I remember that in one scene, I found Ms. Han quite too close to Second Wife. And her affair, like in the episode 1, was a way to distract suspicion about her real sexuality. I know this sounds crazy but why not, since we have a transgender here... This would also explain why Ha hates her first son as he is not related to her lover, Ms. Han.
  18. @nasaan ka Alex? There seems to be another evidence for HS's involvement with the Joker. Look, in this scene, NGT is holding a wire that looks really similar to the one that has been used by the Joker. But like you, I suspect that HS is not working alone. HS could not be someone who is so smart that he could erase all the evidence. Actually, there are two persons. Why? Because of the lighter. The lighter found in the episode 8 doesn't look like the one seen at the end of the episode 4. (here episode 4) Notice that the lighter has a sticker, while the other doesn't. (episode 8). Furthermore, I have also observed that there seems to be two MO: one person writes the messages (see the two writings on the wall), while the other appears to burn something. 1. During the last murder in 2014, a fire alarm went on. 2. Someone burnt the message on the wall, after it was discovered. 3. After reading the last message on the wall, a fire occurred at PG's school. I had suspected that DB's mother was the one who triggered the fire alarm in 2014. What if she created the fire at the school, in order to scare her daughter so that she would leave Ongsan? Don't forget that after that incident, DB broke down which was observed by YS. In my opinion, the arsonist is not the Joker but someone who wants to protect DB. The mother fits the profile. She can't say who is the Joker as she acts as a person suffering from dementia. Yet, she gave her daughter this warning: Don't trust anyone!! In my opinion, the message could have been addressed to HM this time. That's why I would like to ask if DB's name was mentioned in the last warning on the wall. While the mother might think, her daughter is targeted, in reality, HM has caught the Joker's attention. Notice that he hasn't written any date. Let me know what you think... @40somethingahjumma @stroppyse @Latte_Anyday
  19. Sorry but Ms. Han has definitely worked against MWP and MSH. It was even narrated by YD in the beginning of one episode. So she was against the idea that SH becomes the heir and successor. Like I wrote before, I suspect that the judge Han resented the chairman Mo for destroying her career after she gave that harsh sentence. Notice that she is loyal to MC Group and not the family Mo and there is a reason for that. She wanted to use the power from MC Group in order to tame or even disempower that family. Notice how little by little the table has less and less guests. Now, there are only three left: WS, Ms. Ha and WJ. Sure, SH is about to return but so far, Ms. Han thinks, she has almost succeeded. I am even suspecting that she is waiting for the right occasion to get rid of Ms. Ha.
  20. Because Mubaek is a true believer of Aramun Haesulla. Asa Sakan is a member of the White Mountain Clan and they have changed their belief and gods. That's why the walls of the temple/sacred room were changed. They put different gods on the walls... Asa Sakan and her clan have used their religion to abuse the other clans. The cult of Aramun Haesulla is: no clan stands above the others. He wants to correct the wrongs.
  21. But it makes a difference if MWP had an affair with his daughter-in-law or not... it is more scandalous. So the reputation of SH's mother would be really tarnished and destroyed. It is different, when her biological mother has been working for WMP for many years. After his wife's death, he could have married her but he didn't. @thistle @DreamCatcher2011 It was never questioned that SJ's father was not chairman Mo. I am quite sure that a paternity test was done before. Ms. Ha would have requested it. WS only declared, he was SJ's father as he had been ordered by Ms. Han. I hope, the actual TOP members get punished for their wrongdoings. I mean, the judge Lee was literally kidnapped, another member hacked into YD's account aso. They all committed crimes but legitimate their actions for the sake of MC Group. They helped Ms. Han to corner Young Joo Il and drove him to commit suicide: defamation, fabrication of evidence, coercion, aso.... They need to be sent to jail as well. Sure, in the last episode, they started having some doubt but they still followed her orders. They are as guilty as she was.
  22. That's why I am thinking that AJR is not SH's biological mother in reality. I can not imagine that AJR would cheat on her husband with her father-in-law. This would tarnish her image we had so far from her: an elegant and kind woman. Furthermore it would make no sense why the grandfather would give some sperms in order to have another child. Since SH was raised by AJR, she never questioned her identity. However, we heard in an earlier episode from SH that cheating was normal in her family. Her grandfather and her father were cheaters. In other words, the existence of an affair concerning her grandfather is known in the family. Yet the identity of the mistress was not mentioned. Secondly, we also saw that Ms. Jung had been working for years for AJR hence when Ms. Ha appeared, she threatened Jung. Either she would become her ally or she would lose her job. So Jung and AJR were close. Besides, Jung's father was the driver of MWP . Her father was killed in the car accident. This shows that MWP and Jung were connected through her father and AJR. She even took care of him for so many years. This indicates that she was very close to him. She ensured that she got in touch with her with the burner phone. As you can see, I am more and more convinced that Jung could have been the mistress of MWP. When Ms. Ha criticized AJR for her inability to continue the Mo bloodline, this could have been the trigger for AJR to ask that SH becomes her daughter. I mean, let just say that Jung discovered her pregnancy... As MWP feared that his son could do something to his future child, he proposed AJR to fake her pregnancy and let her raise SH as her own daughter. She wouldn't have to suffer from being labeled as an illegitimate child. Notice that MWP met her alone without the presence of her mother...
  23. Now, Joo Young Il's son wants to help SH in order to punish Han for his father's death. This doesn't surprise me very much that SH is in fact the half-sister of chairman Mo.
  24. About WJ: I hope, his ex-wife appears again. Remember that SH gave her something that she had to keep. So the true justice would be that 1. WJ betrays his mother in order to save himself 2. WJ loses his position and even has to leave the company and the house 3. His secret as transgender is revealed 4. WJ sees his ex-wife leading a happy life with her new husband I don't think that WS should become the heir... maybe the reason why he can not be the true heir is that he is not Mo's son in reality.
  25. @stroppyse From my point of view, KJR has always prioritized his career and social status over DB hence he never let her met his colleagues or didn't really protect her from his mother. I have the impression that he pitied more DB than he loved her. When he claimed that YS would pity DB hence he thought, that was love, in my opinion the baseball player was actually projecting his own thoughts onto YS. I am quite sure that Jessica must have boosted KJR's ego in order to woo him and this worked. Furthermore, I can even imagine that she ensured to get pregnant so that KJR would take his responsibility. But once married, she doesn't need to do that any longer, she has become a celebrity by association. She is determined to use his reputation and her followers in order to boost her career. KJR is indeed a selfish man but too weak in reality, he can be easily influenced by people which distinguishes him so much from YS. The latter is so strong-willed, his strong sense of justice and his past are the reasons why YS doesn't care about people's opinion.
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