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@40somethingahjumma Sure, on the surface the detectives except the main lead look like idiots, when they believe that KPY committed suicide. It did bother me first but then I realized that JTS's superior has the tendency to close cases too quickly. Remember that he was annoyed, when JTS told him that the assemblyman's death was not an accident. He complained... so by announcing that KPY had killed himself, they would close the case of JSH's disappearance and KSC's death.

@bedifferent So far, I understood, SH got elected. This wasn't just a poll. She thanked the voters and in the preview, a bill she is supposed to put through is mentioned.

@nrllee First, I had this crazy thought: What if JSH decided to have his hand and foot cut in order to expiate for his father's crimes? He definitely knows that his father was involved in crimes... It was even said that this was dangerous. So the hand is for KSC's death, the second for KPY's death... for each death, there is a member from JSH. Even if this theory is wrong, this pattern caught my attention: for each member, there is a dead person... It was as if the mastermind was sending a signal to the chairman of JQ Group. Your son will pay for your crimes and involvement. In my opinion, Choi Chi Deok is the next target... as he received the foot from JSH. Remember that SH received the hand and after that, she got a message asking her to accept Hong's idea. Maybe the killer will contact CCD. On the other hand, it was as if CCD was warned at the same time. CCD needs to take him seriously and follow his order. I have the impression that the "butcher" will ask CCD to do something, like f. ex. confess his crimes because at some point, JQ might get rid of him because he represents a thread. Notice that JTS was not able to do anything to CCD, JQ via In Dong Koo had already prepared everything to cover up. From my point of view, the opponent of JQ is well aware of JQ's devious plans and accomplices hence he is playing dirty (the mutilations) in order to reveal the conspiracy.

I had this theory: The person behind the mutilations forced SH to run for the election as he knew that she wouldn't do it, if her family and Hong asked her to follow her father's footsteps. But he knew that she loved her husband hence using her husband as a thread, the mastermind used it in order to push her to accept Hong's offer. So on the surface, it looked like Hong had succeeded, while in reality he had already been played by the butcher. But the moment she wins the election, the mastermind sends the foot so that SH can no longer hope for JSH's return. Furthermore, she has no reason to follow Hong's orders any more. While JYM, the chairman of JQ, and Hong thought that KSH was just a weak person who could be used as a puppet for their plan hence they asked her to become an assemblywoman, they underestimated KSH's strength. Her speech in the last episode showed her love for her father but also her strong sense of responsibility. She wants her father's name to remain untarnished, she is determined to follow the citizens' opinion and interests which means that she won't be defending JQ's interests. KSH will realize that the bill she is supposed to support doesn't benefit the citizens but only JQ... hence she won't agree to pass the bill. There is definitely a third party... the question is: why did he take JSH if their goal was the same as it looks like it on the surface? By killing the chairman's son, KSH is no longer connected to JQ and her "father-in-law". In other words, the mastermind is someone who knows KSH very well but also is well aware of JQ's plan. From my point of view, KSC's death is definitely linked to JQ and In Dong Koo. The latter has no idea about JSH's disappearance. Now, I am wondering why JYM is perceiving his right-hand man as an enemy.

The Prime Minister Hong is the high official close to Edward Park. And we know now why Jessica had the airplane crashed... her company wanted to buy Dynamics. Now, the NSI has been infiltrated by the good guys. Working from the inside is much better because they can give the info to Kang via Vagabond. I somehow knew that Kang had predicted what Min would do. In my opinion, GHR's friend must have switched the plate so that Kang could fake his death. Min now believes that his enemy is dead hence Kang is off the grid and can work in the shadow. I was surprised that Edward Park said that he was a patriot. I am still wondering who killed Michael in the first place because this has not been answered.

Your observation is so point on and this made me realize why this couple NGT and YJ is not working at all. We know for sure that NGT is desperately looking for respect. His wife has always been correcting him and doesn't let him make decision alone hence he felt that he was not respected. But for him, respect has a different meaning than YJ's respect. Since he has been raised to be patriarchal and misogynistic, he associates respect to being treated as superior, as the one in charge of the family which never happened with his wife. This explains why NGT has been harassing DB all this time... it revealed his patriarchal mentality. As a man, he is allowed to do anything: touch a woman, ask for peanuts for free aso. On the other hand, YJ has a different mentality: she is a strong woman and as such, she perceives herself as independent and equal to the man. For her, you get respect if you are well-mannered and intelligent. YJ lost the respect for her husband the moment she saw that he is more stupid than naive. Furthermore, we know that NGT desires so much to become a governor. IT is his way to compensate his frustration at home... but just like with his wife, if he became a governor, he would abuse his position. With this position, he would reveal his patriarchal and old-fashioned mentality. You are right: NGT's mother is to blame for her son's flaws. Because of this analysis, I wished that HYJ filed for a divorce and ends up as governor. NGT needs to realize that he is responsible for his own situation. In reality, he never treated his wife well as he only wanted to be superior to her. Besides, with a divorce, it would teach his mother a lesson. The latter has been using her son's marriage in order to boost her social status.

@katakwasabi I have to disagree with you. In my opinion, KTW views GHR as colleague because if not, he wouldn't have offered his egg. He lied about his allergy. Secondly, he ensured that GHR would mourn and gave her some space. He knew that GHR didn't want to show how the death of her colleagues had affected her.

Well, KTW's thinking is really weird. He cares for GHR, yet he doesn't want to help her in the end: following the order is more important than helping a friend/colleague. The character is not well written.

Thanks for the compliment. You were not too harsh concerning KJR. He was a jerk back then and he is still one which even DB recognizes. Actually, her life with him was terrible. I compare her to a concubine who is not allowed to leave the harem. We were shown DB in KJR's flat living alone in front of the TV. In other words, she had been cut off from the world and had no friend at all. It looks as if she had been buried alive. Because our famous baseball player has a celebrity status and earns well, he believes that he can do whatever he wants. He looks down on YS as the latter is just a police officer. KJR has another flaw: he is always running away from any responsibility. He didn't want to have a child, when he saw the pregnancy tests. Now that he has found that DB is still single and had a child with him, he thinks that he can have a better life with her than with Jessica therefore he doesn't fear Jessica's thread (a possible divorce). In the episode 1 and 2, we saw him having his daughter around him, hence he looked like he was a good father but right now his daughter has disappeared. She has been taken care of by a nanny. He shows concern for his son and is neglecting his daughter. In other words, he acted like a responsible father because he had to, since his wife showed no motherly love for the baby. Since he has met DB, his focus has shifted to his son and DB. I even wonder if in case of a divorce, he would really care for his daughter. Besides, he asks DB to wait for him, just like in the past... so he has not learnt his lesson. Then he doesn't promise her that he will marry her. He just wants to take care of her and his son financially so far. Here again, he wants to keep her and KPG hidden (just like in the past). The only difference is now she has become a mistress. Finally, I would like to add that DB was right to leave KJR the way she did. She didn't announce to him that she wanted to break up with him, she just left his home "without any warning". Since KJR had been abusing her emotionally and mentally, she knew that the moment she expressed this, he wouldn't accept the break up and would do anything to stop her. Furthermore, I even suspect that he would have blamed her for some reason. KJR is not the type to reflect on himself. Right after meeting her, he blamed her... he didn't even want to know why she did it. He only thought of his pain and never imagined that he had hurt DB much more.

@bedifferent @40somethingahjumma Actually, KJR has not even reflected yet why his relationship with DB failed. This explains why KJR is acting like in the past, telling her what she should do. There are many reasons why DB had to break up with him. Like I mentioned in my former post, KJR was self-centered and selfish. Furthermore, he had internalized certain values: an orphan with a low school degree is perceived as a stigma. That's why he pitied her in reality and confused love with pity. But the last episode made me realize something else. Remember that Jessica blackmailed KJR emotionally. If he didn't agree to pay for her study in Milan, then she would file for a divorce. We heard from DB that KJR did the same with DB. He often threatened her to break up, when DB was unhappy or would disagree with him. As you can observe, KJR and Jessica have or had a similar behavior. Why? The reason is simple: they know that the partner is more invested in the relationship than themselves. KJR knew that DB loved him much more than he loved her, hence he could use her feelings in order to force her to be "obedient". As a result, DB started living like a concubine (a woman without any right and status, entirely dependent on her "man") and her personality even changed. She became meek and weak that's why KJR didn't feel the same for DB any longer. Therefore he invested more and more in his career. He overlooked the warmth provided by DB and the real impact of DB in his life. This explains why DB didn't express herself in front of others, when she was bullied in Ongsan. She rather whispered or mumbled. KJR's attitude was the cause for her shyness. Notice that the moment DB showed more and more strength, KJR was reminded more and more of the past and became more and more clingy. He rediscovered the DB from the past, when he was attracted to her. This is the other reason why KJR is acting like in the past. He still thinks, because DB used to listen to him, she would do the same here. But here is the trick: DB doesn't love KJR any longer, he has no power over her, unlike in the past. The moment DB left him without a word, KJR felt really hurt. Her departure had left a hole in his heart. Since in his eyes, he had "loved" DB so much but she chose to break up with him, he decided to choose the exact opposite as a wife in order to avoid of being hurt like in the past. Jessica's personality contrasts so much with DB's. She is selfish, doesn't want children and is not listening to him at all. However, in this relationship, KJR had a similar position with DB. He was the one who was more invested in the relationship than Jessica. But by meeting DB and his son, KJR's situation in his marriage has changed. He is no longer dependent on his wife. That's why Jessica will be really angry. She never thought that KJR would even "abandon" her. Now, if we compare KJR and YS, we can clearly see the contrast between the two men. YS has the opposite approach. He always lets DB make the decision. She is not forced to do anything, he makes his stand and shows his respect towards her. That's why DB is blooming more and more. His behavior has the opposite effect, DB becomes stronger and stronger. YS saw her true personality right from the start, although she was shy and quite distant in the beginning. Even in the last episode, YS didn't release his anger towards DB, he knew that KJR was the one to blame. However, he clearly revealed that her action had affected him and he expressed that she should treat him differently. She also realized her mistake. His words made her realize that she was no longer alone, she had a boyfriend by her side therefore she needed to be considerate towards him. All this time, YS treats her with respect. He might be angry and hurt but he still restrains himself. In the long run, DB is learning to invest herself more in her relationship with YS. That's why she is able to confess her feelings for him.

Sorry but the excuse to use bullying as a way to make the soldier stronger is definitely wrong. The result has the opposite effect which was shown in the story. Second Lieutnant Lee couldn't achieve great results with his team. The more he allowed the bully, the more the situation worsened. He tried to apply what his father told him. The father was harsh towards him and he did the same to his team... Lee never got the results he wanted, just like his father.

Is WS really the killer? If so, why?

Well, I didn't express myself very clearly. In my opinion, DO, Jin and Haru come from the same manhwa or met before in a different manhwa. It really looks like Jin is jealous of Haru. Don't you find it strange that Jin became close to her the moment she became self-aware? From my point of view, Jin had even become DO's confident, until Haru appeared. There is a reason why Jin is so determined not to change anything. I am quite sure that he knows that DO comes from a different manhwa that's why he is expecting her death. A possibility: Because with her death, she can be reborn and appear in a different manhwa where he can follow her and even become closer to her. But if Haru intervenes and changes the story, he might even be able to save her from dying...

I have the impression that Jinminchae is related to Haru’s scar. He and Haru come both from the manga Flower. I also think that DO comes from a different manga. She only started seeing the hole the moment she became self-aware. In my opinion, the hole at the library and outside shows that this manga world is connected to another manga world.

Now, we know why DB left KJR without telling him that she was pregnant. Actually, I understand her reason for the break up. KJR was just selfish and self-centered, kept DB hidden in his flat like a concubine. He was indeed ashamed of her, acted as if he had no girlfriend hence he never allowed her to meet his colleagues and friends. He never cared for her as such, he just enjoyed that she was taking care of him so well. In the episode 10, his behavior really annoyed me. He does perceive DB as someone pitiful, he doesn't even want her to become happy. Now, the viewer saw that DB put the bracelet into a box, indicating that HM will be the one who steals the bracelet from DB.