[Drama 2019-2020] Crash Landing on you, 사랑의 불시착

[Kimsungrin]

10 hours ago, stroppyse said:

 

I'll defer to you on this one since my exposure to people of North Korean background is very limited. However, there are different levels of formal speech in Korean, both Northern and Southern. While JH does not use the form of speech that he uses to address superiors, (just as a SK person would speak to his superiors, especially in the military differently than he might to a stranger while still speaking in jondae to both) he does not seem to drop down to addressing SR in an informal manner, just a less formal manner.

 

 

True. Kdramas are definitely evolving in terms of acting, direction, writing, production values, etc. Heck, even the makjang dramas are becoming more twisty and makjang.

 

 

 

Actually, watching todays ep made me realize that i was in fact wrong to think the -yo that RJH uses when he speaks to YSR is not the same as the -yo used in- lets call it first degree formal south korean speech (especially when SD switched from formal to informal speech with GSJ while drunk). You are right he does use the first degree formal speech with YSR most of the time but since the beginning, he switches between formal and informal speech with her just like she does, a thing that happens a lot in dramas between leads that uses formal speech. 

So just like in south korean language, theres several degrees of formal speeches (-yo, -meeka). The fact that north koreans use more often and most of the time the highest level of formal speech (-meeka) got me confused, my bad :). 

 

and yess! It is so exciting to see how the plots are more and more complex and deep with time and the increased depth of characters. YSR is actually the perfect example. She is not just an illegitimate child that was rejected by her family. Depression, suicidal thoughts, rebirth, success in the loneliness, we see all of it. Her stepmother doesnt just hate her, she hate her while loving her, and so on. I cant imagine that depth being dealt with in a drama a few years back.

 

10 hours ago, greezlybee said:

the one drama that makes me log back in to soompi. HI EVERYONE or if i may say COMRADES! i don’t have the time to read previous pages so... sorry if someone already post what im posting hehehe. 

 

tonight’s episode is heartbreaking in a comical way which is mind blowing! along the way of their last goodbye, i secretly hoped that CG gets them so that our SR and JH can spend another eternity lol. but of course, i can’t wait to see SR crash landing on everyone’s butt back in SK!!! except the two men

 

my favorite favorite scene of the whole episode:

 

the whole in-laws and kiss scene can’t compare. this is the most purest thing.... look at his gaze i so can’t watch the next episode... watching his dull eyes, longing for someone he can no longer see..... at least for now. 

 

if they don’t get back together for good, be it in SK NK or even the desert, i swear i will find a way to email the writer and make them shoot all over again. YES, MUST PROTECT SR JH AT ALL COST! how am i going to survive the one week break after tomorrow’s episode?! *wails in 100 languages* 

 

But dont you think that since he crossed the border he will somehow end up having to stay in the south, be it because they will be caught by SK soldiers or something else? It would be so interesting to see RJH hiding in the south and adjust to YSR's life this time around. 

 

Aaarf...that onr week without CLOY..ottokae!

[Ameera Ali]

@Brokenwings I’m looking these expressions he give us every week   

 

 

 

 

[Kimsungrin]

4 hours ago, charray said:

This drama had helped me to appreciate the looks, appeal and acting chops of Hyun Bin and in the process had been converted to become a new fan of Hyun Bin. I was not a fan of Hyun Bin previously and this is actually my first Hyun Bin drama. I started this drama more for Son Ye Jin initially.
 

I really like his interpretation and portrayal of Ri Jung Heok. His acting really nailed it for many memorable scenes. Like the ending scene of episode 8, when he received the call from Seri. In episode 9, where Seri was going to the piano to play the piano, he had this look on his face which is partly indulgent and amused and partly condescending and patronising but once she started playing the tune, his expression changed. I thought that was so good. 

 

Welcome into Hyun bin's fandom :). Now you have to watch Secret garden! Dont thank me, its a pleasure to share this piece of hapiness lol

[daiana.westphal]

Comrades! 
 

I’ll continue talking about my delusional theories... because why not? 
 

In the ending of episode 9

Netflix 1:18

YSR talks about it was fate they encounter in Switzerland and again in NK. Capitan Ri stays in silence, just looking her with his amazing melo eyes. But we know (Mister Ri likes to not talk about things)... 

And she asked: - What is this? 
And RJH, maybe try to say something but he doesn’t and he kinda change the direction to... You can date man....

 

So... I firmly believe there’s more things that happened in Switzerland... and he didn’t have the courage to talk about in that moment!

 

This scene caught my attention and rewatched a couple of times just to sure I wasn’t being thaaat much delusional...

 

Comrades, give some light!

[jadore1]

 well ep 9 must be good because it got my eyes to water  all on their own.... happy and sad , but at least its better to have known love than be a zombie all life  ...so whatever happens in the rest of the episodes , at least they gave it their all .

 I hope she sees her Comrades again and they see her ,..they could do so much if they got together and Korea would birth a new renaissance .   

And did you guys see our village comrades, no matter how poor,   they are more generous than a lot of other people i know...so i am still sending love to those women and praising their endurance and trust in their national treasure....good man are hard to find LOL  

Forgot to mention "those shoulders"  comrades , you are not wrong we also think he is special .

[Kimsungrin]

5 hours ago, Keroppi said:

I agree. They deserve more glory especially Master Sergeant Pyo Chi Soo, SR’s bff. I want more of their banters in SK. Please writer-nim. Make my wish come true. 

 

Also, with regard to the logic behind SR’s escape route, if I understood correctly, what made it easy this time for SR to escape undetected was the scheme JH plotted ( there deserter causing an emergency shift) and also the fake lead which drew CK to JH’s parents’ house so CK is busy in Pyongyang. 

 

Correct me if I’m wrong comrades.

 

 

 

 Yes she could escape thanks to RJH and the boys being sent back on the frontline and them knowing better than anybody the area. I think the writer wanted to emphasize that unless you are able to go to that area (have to be a soldier) and know the road, you cant find your way to the south

[a15t3]

 

Found this, fave scene from ep 9.

 

5 hours ago, Ameera Ali said:

@Brokenwings I’m looking these expressions he give us every week   

 

That's why I love this scenes so much.  He has successfully acted so much of innocence, child-like and very much in love

 

 

Can't help to fall more for his smiles, Mr. Dimples 

[Kimsungrin]

26 minutes ago, Daiana Westphal said:

Comrades! 
 

I’ll continue talking about my delusional theories... because why not? 
 

In the ending of episode 9

Netflix 1:18

YSR talks about it was fate they encounter in Switzerland and again in NK. Capitan Ri stays in silence, just looking her with his amazing melo eyes. But we know (Mister Ri likes to not talk about things)... 

And she asked: - What is this? 
And RJH, maybe try to say something but he doesn’t and he kinda change the direction to... You can date man....

 

So... I firmly believe there’s more things that happened in Switzerland... and he didn’t have the courage to talk about in that moment!

 

This scene caught my attention and rewatched a couple of times just to sure I wasn’t being thaaat much delusional...

 

Comrades, give some light!

 

Maybe he remembered that she was the one he saved (again) from jumping from the bridge and the one that took the picture of SD and him

[sharluvsenergy]

1 hour ago, dulcinea1 said:

Ratings episode 9 (Nielsen Korea)

 

Nationwide: 11.516

Seoul: 12.355

 

(New record )

Thanks for the update! Always happy for the team when their ratings increase! They really deserve this for all the hard work and effort!!! Congrats CLOY team! 

[daiana.westphal]

Just now, Kimsungrin said:

 

Maybe he remembered that she was the one he saved (again) from jumping from the bridge and the one that took the picture of SD and him

 

Why he doesn't say anything...

 

I love Capitan Ri personality and honor, he have a big heart and is a complex character, but mannnnnn

PLEASE TELL US EVERYTHING!!!

[Kyoya]

5 hours ago, Daiana Westphal said:

What about the ratings? 

 

I'm dying to know!!!

 

 

Nationwide: 11.516%

Seoul: 12.355%

 

I'm hoping for higher ratings tonight! 

[hibiscus23]

6 hours ago, MadraRua said:

 

High five to us discerning ahjummas  The chemistry is off the charts, I love them. The captain is such a strong silent type but shows his admiration in little ways. The smuggled goods he bought for her from the South.... just... SWOON 

lol did u just say ahjummas bc of classic kdramas? hahaha! yes their chem is out of this world! yup he did/does everything for her love & he's such a sweetie!

 

 

 

cr: YT

 

 

 

[Samuel Yohanes]

The drama rating trending is keep going upward this is so good!!

 

Can we break 12% this week? If we do then it easily the best rating since sky castle and beat Hotel del luna 12% rating peak.

 

FIGHTING!!

 

Btw anyone knows which ost release this week?

[Ameera Ali]

40 minutes ago, a15t3 said:

That's why I love this scenes so much.  He has successfully acted so much of innocence, child-like and very much in love

 

I love all his expression, I think this episode loved his face expression, when the queen bee husband shoulder hug him 
 

 

 

Queen bee : # Ok let’s send one of the husband to check these shoulder 

 

 

 

[MadraRua]

10 minutes ago, hibiscus23 said:

lol did u just say ahjummas bc of classic kdramas? hahaha! yes their chem is out of this world! yup he did/does everything for her love & he's such a sweetie!

 

LOL

 

Yes I did but really I'm speaking for myself 

 

So jealous of you young things and I'm.. well.....

ANCIENT 

[usadango]

6 hours ago, TotoroSY said:

But I think the writer is very smart and has also done her homework. Here's my thot :

- there's one scene in Ep 9 where it shows there was a defector and alarm was sounded. I was wondering earlier "so what", who's the defector and why is this important?

- after the episode ended, I was thinking about how JH and his team was called for "emergency switching". At first was wondering "what the heck is that?" My guess is that, the defector must have been one of the soldiers of the present army unit guarding the DMZ. So once something like that happens, they need to do "emergency switching" to another army unit. And JH must have found about the defector incident and asked the Senior Colonel that his unit be the one given that "emergency switching".

- JH is really one smart and fast-thinking guy. The opportunity was only there out of coincidence, and he took it immediately so that he can transport SR safely back to SK.

 

Again, salute to writer-nim!!

 

As for why they can cross the border so easily, since JH's army unit took over DMZ after the emergency switching, he probably has full control of it and hence was able to lead SR across the border without the NK army stopping them. (probably it's not that simple in real NK life but hey, it's kdrama!)

 

That's my theory!! Other thots and discussion will be most welcome!!

 

 

 

 

 

 

I second this theory and also thought that JH is a smart guy.

 

So maybe JH and his team will be sent to SK to capture that defector? I’m wondering if that would be Kim Soohyun cameo

[Ahpheng]

 

[kimeon_]

I've repeated episode 09 this morning before the mandatory house chores and looking forward to 6pm KST for the release of CLoY Part 5 OST on YouTube. This drama obviously brings a lot of joy and happpiness to my mundane routine daily life. The last time I felt like this was when Goblin was aired and after that KDrama was only to fill my free time. But this CLoY, well I fit it into my daily schedule, be it the new episode and the repeated ones. I am scared to think of the withdrawal symptoms which I will have after it ends end of Feb LOL

 

Hyun Bin & Ye Jin are great storytellers, so so great that they have made me forget that this is not real life scenarios and I honestly have invested my feelings embedded with CLoY. Same goes to all the supporting actors in CLoY. I do not hate Seo Dan as I can see clearly how deep is her love towards Jeong Hyeok and she would be willing to do anything to have him as her husband, because of her love, but unfortunately, Jeong Hyeok does not love her back as how he loves Seri. Sigh, c'est la vie. Seo Dan, I hope she too will have a happy ending in CLoY as she also deserves one.

 

Although I am not familiar with North Korea's real situation apart from defectors' story which I watched on YouTube, we are all aware that at the end of the day, they are human too.. with loving families, human needs such as love and care. I still cant get (out of my head) Jeong Hyeok's father's reaction when he saw how lovey dovey this lovebird can be in front of him and his wife LOL! Teared and laughed at the same time. 

 

Keep your guesses on next episodes coming in here in forum as I love love reading all the guesses, assumptions, pictures, gifs and videos. I really appreciate all of them. Saranghae.

 

Love from me to all comrades here.

[cakezetajones]

3 hours ago, luvcrabbieshinhwa said:

Since many of the comrades here are providing so much insightful details and analyses of the current episode, I can only contribute to some trivia about political background. 

 

Yes, it's a drama which is more inclined to fantasy. But what makes CLOY interesting for me is the way the writer weaves the story to be as "close" and as"accurate" as it can be to the real-life situation. Some things are exaggerated (paragliding, for instance...though it's written to be more "make sense" with the rules of non-motoric object flying over so it won't be detected by radars + natural disaster to enable the security measures to be defunct), but some are made to be precisely mimicking the current situation (i.e: students' uniforms which are made to reflect the changing era in NK). 

 

The highlight in this episode should be Seri's way back...which seems to be easy and 'comfortable' compared to any other options RJH has offered her. 

 

Is it plausible? Can it really happen irl? I saw those questions are being posed. 

 

It's quite plausible. 

Pyo Chisoo noted that they went to the route to the South which has been de-mined. Such road exists. Though not many people are aware, or able to access it. DMZ is heavily guarded with all heavy security measures...but let's not forget it's 250 km long and 4-5 km wide (Junghyuk only brought Seri to the border of Northern Limit Line which is 2 km wide, btw). There's bound to be a "hole" where it isn't guarded. However, it's not easily accessible even without being guarded due to at least 2 reasons: wildlife and landmines. 

 

Now landmines. Chisoo also mentioned that the road is cleared of landmines. Such landmines are forbidden under International Law and both Koreas have signed and ratified the law to disarm and not to plant more landmines across the DMZ (or anywhere within territory). 

 

However, they've both failed to comply with the law because of two reasons, at least. First, there's been MILLIONS of landmines within NLL and SLL (North - South Limit Line) and it's predicted that it'd take 250 years for both of them to de-mine. It's extremely dangerous and difficult to do so. They have to do it manually since it's buried and pretty undetected and many landmines are shifted around within the 70 years of separation due to natural causes. Both Koreas have tried to de-mine (either jointly and separately) some areas since the early Sunshine policy period and the current period (2017 Panmunjeom Declaration)... So some lands/border points are free of mine already...which are closer to where Company 5 in the drama is supposedly posted (I suppose it's within Gyeongi-do borderline since they can see Bukhansan...not the ones in Gangwon-do) in the drama. 

 

As pointed out in this thread, if there's such an 'easy way' then many NK people would've been defected. But it's not that easy, since it's not accessible. Soldiers may defect through that road if they're familiar enough with the area...the drama touched it a little bit in this episode and there are few occurrences where soldiers would defect by simply crossing JSA border (it's not that easy since it's even more heavily guarded...even if one tries, he/she could've been shot on the spot by either side...or sent back for being suspected as a spy). Also, both Koreas are reluctant to remove the landmines for security reasons. Demining means that people can defect to either Koreas more easily and also make either Koreas more vulnerable to attacks from either side (remember that they're only having CEASEFIRE agreement. The war has not ended, yet). That's why they also maintain the landmines as a part of front-line defense measure. 

 

Back to the drama, the road Seri's taken to go back to the South is actually plausible...though it's not as easy as it's depicted in the drama hehe. 

 

Edit:

Possible ending. 

I mentioned once here that I'm inclined Junghyuk would defect to be with Seri...cuz maintaining respective citizenship isn't possible (even with them being in Switzerland). Seri defecting wouldn't sit well with SK audience. 

 

Another possibility: fantasy Reunification...which is possible since it's a "drama". But then again it might not sit well with SK audiences since currently the NK-SK relationship is cold. I wouldn't rule out this possibility, though. 

 

One possibility that's plausible yet I haven't seen it being mentioned: signing peace treaty to end Korean War. Once it's signed, both countries can treat each other normally, meaning people and goods and everything can pass border [more] easily. It does not mean Reunification...only two separate countries. 

Thank you for this very insightful info on the geo-political backdrop. I've never really known much abt the SK-NK divide, but thanks to this drama I'm so intrigued by it now. If only I was as focused and as diligent as this when studying history back in school (or had history/social studies lessons come alive by amazing dramas and Hyunbin lol!). 

 

Love the peace treaty possibility! It doesn't seem as far-fetched as reunification or defection and might be the most diplomatic option the writer has. 

 

And looking at your name.... Seolma.... Are you an Orange? Cos Omo! I am a fan of another Junghyuk too and I think I've read your blog before

[liltash85]

Omg... Dongmu-deul..you guys are so active. I woke up to 6 pages unread. Glad to know there are so  many new faces joining this thread. 

 

Ok, here are my key takeaways on Eps 9. Some of it may has been discussed. Hope you do not mind to read it again. 

 

1) Our guessed is spot on. It's RJH dad who 'kidnapped' Seri. It's kinda obvious he did that not to harm Seri but rather to save his son from getting into trouble. He kidnapped her just in time as not so long after that, the evil guy JGC arrived at RJH house and ransacked it. 

 

2) I believe Seri has been threatened by the 'kidnapper' to tell RJH that she left with her own will to avoid him searching for her. She did so, but her love confession at the end giving away a huge hint that she is taken away. (Uri Capt is smart, he can think of that very quick). 

 

3) When she was in the truck and scared not knowing what will happened to her, she forced herself to think of happy moments and surprisingly (or not) all the happy moments involved RJH. From the moment he fix her meal by making noodle from scratch to how he covers herself every night so she would not catch a cold. Her simple life in North Korea had given her the happiness she longed for. 

 

4) As much as RJH can see thru her and know when she is lying or not, the same goes with Seri. She definitely can tell when RJH is pretending or hiding his feelings. Though he always said "i'm fine" but she knows when he is not and distressed. Though he said things nonchalantly with one tone but Seri's know that is what he really means. She knows how much he cares. 

 

5) I cried at the scene as they both looking at the dark sky and reminisce about each other. It's metaphoric like how they did not know what happen to the other person even they are looking at the same sky. 

 

6) I said earlier after the first episode that Seri has her own way to control herself when she got in a sticky situation. She becomes very talkative and sometimes she utters things she should not to. That is her way to calm herself. The same situation happened when she is facing RJH's father. Most people will shivers and almost become mute when encounter a scary situation like that, but uri Seri just keep talking and talking even the old man, cannot say much. And her negotiation skills is on another level, probably that is why business is going so well. 

 

7) She already won RJH's mom heart the moment she confess she likes RJH. I realized that his mother is not too keen on the arranged marriage. She did not have that keen eyes on Seo Dan unlike she has it on Seri. Seo Dan's  way of presenting herself might not to her liking imo. And of coz all mother will choose the girl who can make her son happy and smiling again. She is glad to know that RJH is still the sweet boy he used to be. She seems very surprised that RJH even cooked for the lady in front of her. Another proof that she approved Seri is, of so many rooms she has in her big house, she let Seri sleep in RJH room. 

 

8) I believe Director Ri also softens after confronting Seri. She is not dangerous or can harm anyone as what he was told. Hence he let his wife to unlock her from the attic and just let her stay freely in RJH room. 

 

9) The reunion scene... like others it also give me a bipolar disorder. I was crying to see finally they reunite and how they just being honest and shows how much they are worried toward each other and laugh the next minute on Director Ri's expression. He was like "What the hell am I seeing in front of me?"  This ahjussi, always play the evil man, evil dad, evil etc...but in CLOY he challenge himself in being a scene stealer with unforgettable meme. 

 

10) All the scenes involving Seri, Jung Hyuk and our NK F4 the day they want to send Seri's home is so touching. From the part, 6 of them walk after passed by NK posts gates to the village, the talks they had in front of the abundant house on how their country is so closed yet so far. They used to be one country but ideologies separates them that they become strangers to each other. What i love about this writer is she wrote on the POV of commoners. If you asks many koreans (north or south) even the youngsters, they wish that finally this two countries can reunite. They want to freely visit their neighbours just like how they can visit other countries freely. Some of them have relatives on the other side of the counties that they cannot meet because if this separation. It's so heartbreaking. You learned about the history of your great Goryeo kings but you cannot see their legacy as it is in the North. Same goes, you learn great things about Joseon kings but their legacies are in the South. How sad is that. 

 

11) The ending scene. RJH seems cannot let Seri go eventhough his main wish is for her to go home safely. He purposedly took the wrong route so that he can spend more time with her. Her wish for her is so sad and selfless. I know Seri wish for him to say "Do not look for other man". I believe that is what he wished to say too. But he also need to accept the reality that they cannot be together (as long as their countries has not reunite) hence he cannot hold her happiness. It is unfair. That is why he asked her to date and not to be lonely anymore. Even if she feel lonely, always remembers him. Though he cannot be with her physically, the thought of him will ensure her that she is not alone... that is so another lvl of kind. 

 

12) To the director/camera director. We need to talk. Who in the world zoomed in for kissing scene that much that their lips, I repeat THEIR LIPS is out of framed! Whats the point of zooming in then??? The star in kissing scenes are the lips. 

 

That's all i have for now. Will add later things i might had missed. See ya later dongmu-deul 

 

13) oh before I forget... The north koreans ahjumma statement "Fuming mad Capt Ri is more attractive". I totally second that. He looks sexier.