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[Drama 2018-2019] Memories of the Alhambra | Recuerdos de la Alhambra, 알함브라 궁전의 추억

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Ok, Im done with the sub ep 10 and Im still tear stricken with the loss of a dear loyal friend/ secretary/ ally Seo Jeong Hun :bawling: That attack felt like it was premeditated all those warriors and terrorist attacked at once ambushing JW and Seo to a point where they couldnt escape or fight back.  It felt like the purpose was to not only kill but separate them both. Later when Seo body was found away from the station means there was more to what we didnt see. He died with his hands holding onto a sword meant that despite taking one of those smart lens out (he was logged out from JOne server) the NPCs was still chasing and shooting arrows at him. Are NPCs able to kill? The rule (if any) was that NPC couldnt kill. Otherwise JW wouldve been dead way back in ep 1 where he tried to level up in Granda.  So Im not ruling out that there is a possibility of another player in this game whom is the ultimate culprit killing Seo and perhaps Cha and Marco. Then Im baffled because Im still suspecting Prof Cha and Park yet at the time of Seo's death both of them were in Korea. 

 

12 hours ago, wenchanteur said:

 

I think there will be some additional explanations on how this works. But that there will be no explanation of why. The phenomenon shown is paranormal. It is such a story that we have seen it in the classic series "the twilight zone". The mystery remains intact, and because of this, the spectator feels a great thrill, even after the series is over.

 

Therefore the explanation could be like you said - "paranormal" and as what JW believes and predicted 1 yr ago - "Magic"

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As like we saw in ep 10, the train arrives in Granda and the magic sets in. JW no longer limps and all those terrorists and warriors begin their attack. But the magic has become dangerous, these NPC's can seriously wound you to a point where you can feel their attack - slash, arrow or bullet and worse die like Seo did. The rules have changed since JW killed Cha. Maybe the magic saw the need of revenge as a curse and took over. Thereby allowing Cha to become a zombie forever hunting down JW. Likewise to SJ and Marco. The AR game has merged in with reality. The magic/ paranormal is the fantasy element of this drama so I cant/ shouldnt be TOO critical. Writer doesnt need to focus too much on detail or place any reasoning just because there's supposedly "magical/ curse" or "fate" elements involved. Welcome to fantasy dramaland.  To be fair this writer isnt the only one that did that. <_<

 

Another explanation is SeJoo (maybe threatened to control it) . He afterall is the mastermind of this game perhaps he is still controlling it. So far we know that Choi and his team cannot override the original codes that SJ created for this game. Hence why they could not see or look into the secret quest that SJ sent to JW. I even doubt that Choi can monitor anything that happened during JW and Seo time in Granada. It seems it has another server or system controlling it. Like I said above the attack on Seo and JW was premeditated, so perfectly planned that JW and Seo had no time to team up or fight back. Thats why I dont think this quest was a mission to find Sejoo. If it was, SJ wouldnt make it so dangerous to a point of killing anyone let alone Seo. But perhaps JW took a detour and headed to the underground dungeons believing that Seo was there because if you look at the original blue print it clear locates Master being somewhere above ground of the Alhambra palace 

 

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At the end of ep 10, the light that saved JW. Thanks to @stroppyse preview text translation it hints that the server is closed and the quest is interrupted...interrupted as what most of us believe that it could be the security of the Alhambra palace whom were sent in by HJ. So now real non players can interfere with the game? :blink: Oh how I would love to see SJ or Emma come flying in to the rescue. JW says the game isnt over, maybe prior to the kiss he still sees Cha hunting him and Seo saving him. The game continues is it magic or a different server - the original one with SJ controlling it. If SJ still controlling this game and isnt threatened to do so...WOW! Chanyeol's acting has just increased 10 ten fold :lol: and the actor playing Prof Cha I promise I wont be discriminatory on your future roles esp based on your looks or previous roles :P

 

In seriousness, I think I read somewhere in the interviews at one stage the game will be place on hold to further develop the the relationship between the leads as well as the storyline. Am I right @maris1 @lduc @NileRose

 

@siddy09 I love both those OSTs as those lyrics truly highlights HJ and JW perspective that we have yet to see or understand. 

 

@Sarang21 Glad your here...please share some thoughts :blush:

 

Look at the difference between JW and Emma interaction compared to ep 3 and ep 10. How has the game allowed Emma to know him? Is this real or magic?

 

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4 hours ago, MMEDH said:

I think it will be real people with torches . The people hee joo called them at the end.

Can be. But it will be more interesting if he gets help for one of those in the game.( my thoughts ). :rolleyes:

But, if the savers are the human responding to HJ requested, one more time , HJ is his safer. He own HJ many, he better compensate her well! Lol! :lol:

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Helloes @alcides14ahjumma Happy New Year! hope 2019 will be a better year for all.

 

And yes JW owes HJ big time... more cheeky flirting remarks, kisses and hugs are essential rewards. Love how he was driving and smiling at the same time. Must be after the kiss. So it could happen. He wont collapse on her shoulders or use her as a barrier against Cha again right? :lol:

 

 

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1 hour ago, Kasmic said:

 

Helloes @alcides14ahjumma Happy New Year! hope 2019 will be a better year for all.

 

And yes JW owes HJ big time... more cheeky flirting remarks, kisses and hugs are essential rewards. Love how he was driving and smiling at the same time. Must be after the kiss. So it could happen. He wont collapse on her shoulders or use her as a barrier against Cha again right? :lol:

 

Aloha  @Kasmic Happy New Year, I am indeed crossing my fingers and praying that 2019 will be much better for all!  :D

 

JW really owns HJ big time, and I am ready to sit back and enjoy the payback time! I will take however! I love their chemistry! It is almost Saturday! :rolleyes:

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Hi all, I think it's my first time posting here.... I only started watching over the NY holiday and caught up till ep.7 now. I am a big fan of the writer, watched all her previous works which remain on my recommended list for people checking out kdrama, so I was determined not to miss this one. Didn't expect to like MoA this much as I am not really into virtual gaming. But I was literally holding my breath and screaming out loud whenever the duel with Dr.Cha is happening. That is until Zinu leveled up and got a gun, phew.... I will try to catch up before new episode is shown so I can join discussion here. For now, still avoiding spoilers although I accidentally did read the latest death in ep.10 :sweatingbullets:

 

Happy New Year, btw!!

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1 hour ago, alcides14ahjumma said:

JW really owns HJ big time, and I am ready to sit back and enjoy the payback time! I will take however! I love their chemistry! It is almost Saturday! :rolleyes:

 

JW has been shady a whole lot, HJ needs to take some time and don't give in too easily to his dimples! hahahaha

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51 minutes ago, katakwasabi said:

 

JW has been shady a whole lot, HJ needs to take some time and don't give in too easily to his dimples! hahahaha

 

Listen I wouldn't blame her AT ALL if she does.... I mean just look at his face!!!!! It is gold, so precious. And his dimplesssss- even a 10,000 word thesis would be less to describe them:wub:

 

Now about the preview- the kiss scene, i think it comes after she realises that he has disappeared from the hospital. I think JW came to the bridge (I think that is a bridge) to contemplate suicide and maybe just as he was about to seriously go for it, HJ shows up.

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16 hours ago, wenchanteur said:

 

I think there will be some additional explanations on how this works. But that there will be no explanation of why. The phenomenon shown is paranormal. It is such a story that we have seen it in the classic series "the twilight zone". The mystery remains intact, and because of this, the spectator feels a great thrill, even after the series is over.

 

To be honest, I'm not keen on the idea of the paranormal at work here. ;) Sorry, but I hope that's not the case. I enjoy The Twilight Zone concept but for this show I want something a little different. I need a hidden hand behind the scenes that's not Fate. It was okay accepting the mysterious supernatural elements in Nine because of the spiritual Nepal-incense connection but here the catalyst is a video game that was supposedly developed by two lads who barely knew their left hand from their right. I would prefer the game evolving into some kind of self-learning AI trying understand human nature by judging human reactions to certain kinds of events etc. The context is important and I'd like to see consistency in terms the use of technology and the inherent dangers that lie within the use of tech without having to introduce paranormal elements in a way that ends up feeling disconnected and unsatisfying. The AI/glitch aspect would fit in better thematically IMO.

Se Jun said something that's still bugging me when he spoke to JW on the phone about not wanting to sell the game to CHS because he was not a good person or something along those lines. Now that's a statement that needs clarification because I don't think it's as straightforward as it sounds.

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6 hours ago, 40somethingahjumma said:

 

To be honest, I'm not keen on the idea of the paranormal at work here. ;) Sorry, but I hope that's not the case. I enjoy The Twilight Zone concept but for this show I want something a little different. I need a hidden hand behind the scenes that's not Fate. It was okay accepting the mysterious supernatural elements in Nine because of the spiritual Nepal-incense connection but here the catalyst is a video game that was supposedly developed by two lads who barely knew their left hand from their right. I would prefer the game evolving into some kind of self-learning AI trying understand human nature by judging human reactions to certain kinds of events etc. The context is important and I'd like to see consistency in terms the use of technology and the inherent dangers that lie within the use of tech without having to introduce paranormal elements in a way that ends up feeling disconnected and unsatisfying. The AI/glitch aspect would fit in better thematically IMO.

 

I don't see much explanation from technology at the moment, even with artificial intelligence. The extraordinary has gone too far to find a rational explanation. The IA is not the subject in addition, it would fall too quickly. As a result, such an explanation would leave me with an impression of inconsistency. It would be "far-fetched".
However, it would be interesting to have more details on how the game is created, and to have consistency in it. Of course, technicians would eventually find an insoluble, inexplicable because supernatural problem, but it would be interesting to see how it happens, what they do to identify the problem, and how it is insoluble.
I mean, whatever we want, we'll just get what we're given. Let's try to enjoy it.  ;)

 

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1 hour ago, skyrangerzi said:

I'm still so salty over secretary's death :bawling:

 

 

I'm salty as the dead sea. So so salty. Huhuhu

 

If he is really dead, i want him to be autopsied at least. We need to know what happened to him. Don't do him injustice like what happened to Cha :tears:

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7 hours ago, ktcjdrama said:

Hi all, I think it's my first time posting here.... I only started watching over the NY holiday and caught up till ep.7 now. I am a big fan of the writer, watched all her previous works which remain on my recommended list for people checking out kdrama, so I was determined not to miss this one. Didn't expect to like MoA this much as I am not really into virtual gaming. But I was literally holding my breath and screaming out loud whenever the duel with Dr.Cha is happening. That is until Zinu leveled up and got a gun, phew.... I will try to catch up before new episode is shown so I can join discussion here. For now, still avoiding spoilers although I accidentally did read the latest death in ep.10 :sweatingbullets:

 

Happy New Year, btw!!

 

Welcome. This drama is really great, isn't it?
Song Jae-Jung has produced a new masterpiece. I prefer "W", but what's the point of comparing? The theme of augmented reality is innovative, I have never seen a story about it, as was the theme of the manhwa. The subject is treated with the same psychological and existential depth.


The rhythm is slower, but this is not a problem, since this slowness is not compensated by filling scenes, but by scenes that are all useful and interesting. I feel the ardour of the author, invested with her own story, proposing only the essential, only the inspired moments. An authentic script, written with artistic honesty and integrity from beginning to end.

 

We don't see that anymore, especially not in the bigger budget series, which hire a regiment of scriptwriters like workers at the factory, responsible for coldly filling time zones laboriously, without inspiration, without creativity, without power over the general plot. Scenes where one is bored, in a general linear coherence, without the interweaving of long-lasting narrative frames, without knowing where they go in the long term. Normal since there is no end, and the seasons are renewed according to the wind of the audience.

I am thinking of a good example, the "the walking dead" series and its entire undead episodes, charged with filling up until the end of the season cliffhanger.


As for the Kdrama, if they do not suffer from this, they nevertheless suffer (for some) from hollow episodes, filling scenes, and uninspired dialogues, according to some moments of the drama.

As an example, the drama "I'm not a robot", which is great in its first part, and then suffers from a big hole, to come back correctly on its last two episodes.

 

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