Under BinJin Spell Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 1 hour ago, QueenieBee said: I watched an older interview with HB last week (can't remember where I saw it otherwise I'd post it here) and I was so surprised when he talked about how strict his parents and particularly his father was growing up and how much they hated him pursing acting. Like his dad actually beat him and wore him down. But I'm totally impressed with how much he stood up for his career choice and did not back down. I hope they are more understanding now that he has achieved the success level he has. But to your point, I can definitely see him being attracted to a confident and bright spirit given the kind of upbringing he had. Reminds me of myself and my siblings. We had totally strict parents and all chose partners that were opposite of that lol I think the better word to use is disliked and not hated. It's in his destiny to be an actor. Before college, he had been warned not to pursue acting as career, as any reasonable parent would, as the chance of failure in this line is really high. He got caught rehearsing and was given baseball bat treatment. Fortunately for him, he got hit accidentally on his knee. Remorseful, his dad, after lots of crying, relented and gave his blessings for him to pursue acting. But it still required some serious negotiations, between the parents and HB. He had to go to Chung-Ang Univ and get his Drama major to have a good chance of making it, not just from his good looks. In the same interview, he said, that with his success in his career at the time, he's feeling less guilty for not obeying his parents' original wish for him. He was still young in this interview and was talking purely from his heart. (Check TVN Hyun Bin Tax Interview Ep 2 on YT). That's why I like HB. He's a grateful and loving son. He's fan friendly and grateful actor. I also checked Jinnie's story prior to her becoming an actress. And I like her story too. She's strong-willed and a very focused individual. Spent countless hours commuting from Daegu to Seoul, probably in the late 90s, to attend acting lessons. I spent some hours on these stuff because of CLOY. Now I support them as a couple deserving of each other, via BinJin Shipping Forum at Soompi, and am just patiently waiting*** for their big announcement. Meanwhile, I am just enjoying reading and viewing each of your posting contributions here and giving my share every now and then. ***giving myself up to 12.31.2020 for this to happen (don't want to use 1000-page limit, as 369 more pages, will be hit probably by Chuseok Festival) 3 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samsam Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 https://twitter.com/yejinnnchoice/status/1262407659916890112?s=21 I dont know if the link will work but hopefully it will. Look how cute that Hyun Bin’s thumb moved when he’s supposed to be sleeping. maybe it’s automatic 4 6 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samsam Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 8 minutes ago, Under BinJin Spell said: I think the better word to use is disliked and not hated. It's in his destiny to be an actor. Before college, he had been warned not to pursue acting as career, as any reasonable parent would, as the chance of failure in this line is really high. He got caught rehearsing and was given baseball bat treatment. Fortunately for him, he got hit accidentally on his knee. Remorseful, his dad, after lots of crying, relented and gave his blessings for him to pursue acting. But it still required some serious negotiations, between the parents and HB. He had to go to Chung-Ang Univ and get his Drama major to have a good chance of making it, not just from his good looks. In the same interview, he said, that with his success in his career at the time, he's feeling less guilty for not obeying his parents' original wish for him. He was still young in this interview and was talking purely from his heart. (Check TVN Hyun Bin Tax Interview Ep 2 on YT). That's why I like HB. He's a grateful and loving son. He's fan friendly and grateful actor. I also checked Jinnie's story prior to her becoming an actress. And I like her story too. She's strong-willed and a very focused individual. Spent countless hours commuting from Daegu to Seoul, probably in the late 90s, to attend acting lessons. I spent some hours on these stuff because of CLOY. Now I support them as a couple deserving of each other, via BinJin Shipping Forum at Soompi, and am just patiently waiting*** for their big announcement. Meanwhile, I am just enjoying reading and viewing each of your posting contributions here and giving my share every now and then. ***giving myself up to 12.31.2020 for this to happen (don't want to use 1000-page limit, as 369 more pages, will be hit probably by Chuseok Festival) Baeksang will be an important event not just for Shippers but for Ye Jin and Hyun Bin as well. It is a chance for them to slowly come out and show everyone that “hi we’re together” without really saying it with words but more so with their interaction. Maybe they will not really admit anything yet knowing them. They might not want to get the attention away from the event/winners/award. But they will give people a glimpse of “we’re both taken and we’re happy” vibes. really wishing and praying that they’ll arrive together that day. wish come true for all of us. We might need oxygen after. 2 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LovableBinJin_2Ri Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 @RiRiGaGa Thank you so much for expressing beautifully the reasons why HB fell for SYJ. I totally agree with you. My shipping heart is so happy and I can’t help feeling protective of them even if I don’t know them personally. What they have is truly special and I want for it to last a lifetime. I just want them to be able to stand strong amidst the trials they will face as a couple. I want them to stay happy together and to keep on growing in love with each other. They are two beautiful people that deserve the best in life as they have given so much joy to others. Oh, I am so inlove with them. Please, BinJin, how oong are we gonna wait? 4 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sy_glad Posted May 19, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 19, 2020 @RiRiGaGa Thank you for a very insightful post. What I consistently witnessed in BinJin’s interactions is that they neither bring each other down for the sake of elevating oneself up. Below are what I’ve gathered from SYJ’s: 1. During the DIY calendar, SYJ made use of most of the stickers while HB barely had any. SYJ explicitly said that she used all the stickers before HB could get to it; hence, an excuse for his “bare” calendar. 2. During their first kiss scene, SYJ apologized for the retake because she laughed. 3. At the reunion kiss in Switzerland, she apologized again for “pushing” HB too hard; thus, losing his “footing” and eventual twirling down the mountain. 4. The scene at Capt. Ri’s house where she asked about Division 11 and HB forgot his line. Again, SYJ apologized because she didn’t deliver her lines in the right order. It’s really hard to move on from this two. I’m actively searching the internet for alternative therapies for better willpower and easing off addiction. I’m doing chakra and chants, ASMR, and hypnosis. I’ll do these things as long as I don’t give up this forum 11 11 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loveumore Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 Lets pray for them faithfully dear shippers so that we can rejoice seeing them all the time together... Miss BinJin so much!!! 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloyfan Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 @RiRiGaGa I ate up every word of what you wrote! Thank you for so eloquently and comprehensively expressing your thoughts on Binjin. Regarding what you said “her strong expressiveness is matched by his patient listening,” I think this sums it up perfectly. In one of her interviews during The Negotiation promos (I think it was with The Fact), when asked about working with HB, she didn’t say all that much, but what she did say was very telling - that “he listened, not just to her, but to everyone.” I think it’s one of the traits SYJ appreciates most about HB - that this super duper handsome actor is also a great listener. And likewise, I think HB appreciates how expressive SYJ is with her words. A perfect communicative match indeed @sy_glad Some great observations you made! SYJ will say what’s on her mind - she is straightforward that way but she is also very honest. It seems they communicate very well and for the most part are able to acknowledge their own faults. I can imagine working together so closely on a grueling 6 month shoot could tear some couples apart - but our Binjin proved themselves to be highly compatible as colleagues. Working so well together and achieving such success with CLOY only strengthened their bond IMO 7 8 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RiRiGaGa Posted May 19, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 19, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, LovableBinJin_2Ri said: @RiRiGaGa Thank you so much for expressing beautifully the reasons why HB fell for SYJ. I totally agree with you. My shipping heart is so happy and I can’t help feeling protective of them even if I don’t know them personally. What they have is truly special and I want for it to last a lifetime. I just want them to be able to stand strong amidst the trials they will face as a couple. I want them to stay happy together and to keep on growing in love with each other. They are two beautiful people that deserve the best in life as they have given so much joy to others. Oh, I am so inlove with them. Please, BinJin, how oong are we gonna wait? @LovableBinJin_2Ri Thanks!! I'm so glad to meet others who agree and see how special they both are individually and together! They both deserve a beautiful love story that reflects how they beautiful they are inside and out. I swear I was afraid that my pent-up delulu BinJin energy was either going to land me into a mental institution or here where I can freely express my obsessive love for them without judgement! I'm so glad I ended up here! Letting my BinJin freak flag fly at full force! #sorrynotsorry 49 minutes ago, sy_glad said: @RiRiGaGa Thank you for a very insightful post. What I consistently witnessed in BinJin’s interactions is that they neither bring each other down for the sake of elevating oneself up. Below are what I’ve gathered from SYJ’s: 1. During the DIY calendar, SYJ made use of most of the stickers while HB barely had any. SYJ explicitly said that she used all the stickers before HB could get to it; hence, an excuse for his “bare” calendar. 2. During their first kiss scene, SYJ apologized for the retake because she laughed. 3. At the reunion kiss in Switzerland, she apologized again for “pushing” HB too hard; thus, losing his “footing” and eventual twirling down the mountain. 4. The scene at Capt. Ri’s house where she asked about Division 11 and HB forgot his line. Again, SYJ apologized because she didn’t deliver her lines in the right order. It’s really hard to move on from this two. I’m actively searching the internet for alternative therapies for better willpower and easing off addiction. I’m doing chakra and chants, ASMR, and hypnosis. I’ll do these things as long as I don’t give up this forum @sy_glad Aw thanks! I love your insightful observations about SYJ as well! I noticed she had said those things but didn't make that connection, I LOVE what you pointed out! I totally see it now too! It's always such a treat when ppl point out how thoughtful, smitten, or caring SYJ is for HB because his "heart on his sleeves" obviousness always makes him seem like "the one who fell" but my homegirl SYJ crashed hard into HB as well. She's just much better at her subtle poker face. You are so right, they both give and take but always end up together on the same level. We don't need to worry about SYJ's strong personality overriding HB, they are both too thoughtful to bring each other down. They do nothing but lift each other up. Like that parachute that held up both of their weights in CLOY, our BinJin is always flying high as one unit! If they drop, they drop together. Oh man, the more I reflect on their real life, the more parallels I discover the many layers of CLOY! Hats-off to the writer indeed! Seriously, the title of CLOY and story might as well be flagged as a documentary at this point and should come with the preface "Based on a true story.." minus the DMZ line. I find it hilariously adorable that personality-wise, the one who is normally the expressive and outgoing one is the one who is much more low-key and subtle about their affection while the one who is normally the reserved and shy one is the one who is much more expressive and outgoing about their affection. They have totally swapped places! Love sure does some crazy things to you! Edited May 19, 2020 by RiRiGaGa 7 4 19 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TotoroSY Posted May 19, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 19, 2020 5 hours ago, lovebirds said: I believe YJ’s strong personalities are among traits that attract HB. To understand more about that points of view, we need to know about normal personalities traits of men who were brought up by strict parents HB needs a strong woman and a decision maker as his life time partner. And he can find these traits in SYJ. HB is not emotionaly strong while SYJ is. He rarerly receives compliments from his parents == SYJ is generous in giving compliments to others. (How happy he was when receiving compliments from her). He always has to ask for his parents permission which prevents him to make his own decisions (afraid of being punished for wrong decisions) == SYJ is not afraid of making decisions A Taiwanese reporter supports this points of view when he saw BinJin’s interactions at presscon backstages where HB was afraid if he made something wrong. HB is not emotional strong while SYJ is == He is not so good at restrain his feelings/ emotion in public while SYJ is SYJ looked composed in presscon. She holdt him tight at presscon to make him feel more relax. We need a cold and a warm head in decisions making to balance a relationship. In summerization, SYJ has what HB needs/ lacks due to part of authoritarian parenting. As a kind and humble person, SYJ has also mastered the art of being strong and soft (when necessary). == HB therefore feels that he can protect her, feels his importance in the relationship. This is my points of view and BinJin are match made in heaven due to they compliment each other so well! PS: BinJin, you have consumed so much of my personal time. Please announce your marriage so that I can have a break. At 2:40: SYJ has a strong mentality to deal with stress Sorry, but I do think this is a bit over thinking on HB's personality. If HB is that "weak", there's no way SYJ will be attracted to him. He is conservative and traditional in his values, and filial to his parents. That do not equate to "not emotionally strong" nor "not able to make his own decisions". He literally went against his parents wishes to become an actor, and he was only 15-16 years old at that time. How much more firm can he get? Plus he joined the Marines voluntarily and even won top awards during his service, and was one of the top 20 Marines during his service time. He also started his own management company (with his acting teacher and best friend) and later sold it for a big profit to Kakao M. He built his own building too. Let's not downplay HB to a point where he seems so weak. Also, being able to express himself openly is not emotionally weak. That's actually a strength. I seldom do this ie. defend HB. In fact most of the time I defended SYJ. But I really think this is over-stretching assumptions on his personality. 10 4 1 18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seri2020 Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 Just saw this video posted 2 weeks ago I think the song says is all ... What we’re all wishing for 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LovableBinJin_2Ri Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 27 minutes ago, RiRiGaGa said: I swear I was afraid that my pent-up delulu BinJin energy was either going to land me into a mental institution or here where I can freely express my obsessive love for them without judgement! I'm so glad I ended up here! Letting my BinJin freak flag fly at full force! #sorrynotsorry LOL! Don’t you worry, you will not be alone if ever you end up in a mental institution kidding aside, I’m glad you decided to “come out” and share your thoughts on BinJin. It made us happy! 31 minutes ago, RiRiGaGa said: I find it hilariously adorable that personality-wise, the one who is normally the expressive and outgoing one is the one who is much more low-key and subtle about their affection while the one who is normally the reserved and shy one is the one who is much more expressive and outgoing about their affection. They have totally swapped places! Love sure does some crazy things to you! IKR! But I like that HB is the more obvious, it makes him flash his million dollar smile and we get to see his dimples! In their SWOON IVs esp the Mission Pong, HB was giggly and pouty, and SYJ’s laughters were delightful to watch. They were like teenagers discovering first love. 4 1 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TotoroSY Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 4 hours ago, RiRiGaGa said: 1) HB and SYJ both share such a passion and integrity for their acting craft. These are two highly seasoned, consummate professionals who truly value their work and are consistently dedicated to their art. 2) HB and SYJ are both incredibly humble. 3) HB and SYJ are both very intelligent, thoughtful, kind, and loyal. 4) HB and SYJ are both so witty and funny in their own way. They get each other's humor and truly make each other laugh. 5) HB and SYJ challenge each other. They are both very strong-willed and ambitious. Yes, SYJ is quite competitive but HB self-proclaimed himself during an interview once (I believe one it was one of his first interviews after military duty) as a “perfectionist” where he strives hard to make everything perfect. The interviewer responded “Man, your future wife is going to have a difficult time!” to which HB cheekily responds, “Be ready (future wife)!” Guess who is ready to rise to his standards of perfection? SYJ! I smiled and nodded my head so many times when I read your post about why HB is attracted to YJ, and in fact vice versa. I love that you laid down their similarities instead of their differences. They are similar, yet different but they fit each other so WELL! Just keep these essays going cuz you have a way with words that's just wonderful to read! Same as @Felizak@t , I am gonna save your "essay" to slowly read and re-read it. 7 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ncly Posted May 19, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 19, 2020 @RiRiGaGa I had so much fun reading your post; I personally love reading these kind of well-thoughtout, well-written, eloquent and very rational, heck even logical and sensible, posts here in this forum. It creates the opportunities for us to have more trust in this ship and return with even more positive energy and vibe in this forum. For no reason I spent almost an hour yesterday watching the Swoon video of BinJin playing the ping-pong game. All I did was just stared and captured all the moments of HB looking at and smiling/laughing at SYJ. I haven't seen that many interviews of him with female leads (there aren't a lot anyway, I feel like he has more with male MCs/actors), but in the ones with SYJ he simply radiates and glows with so much happiness and dorkiness. Row 1: smiling/laughing non-stop at SYJ's missions Row 2: trying to be competitive and couldn't understand why SYJ's so good at this game Row 3: pretending to be upset/to sulk at SYJ because he thinks the game's unfair for him (SYJ pretending to not be able to list out 3 good traits of RJH and her being so good at this game) 10 6 21 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Under BinJin Spell Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 4 hours ago, Felizak@t said: Thank you, @RiRiGaGa. My heart is screaming YES! to everything that you pointed out. These are the very reasons why I fell for this couple. The amount of time I spent researching about them and scouring for HB/SYJ materials since January led me to the conclusion that they are worth shipping. I have never been affected by whatever doubts thrown at this ship because IMO their foundation for liking each other and being together weren't superficial. Now, I can rest my migraine troubled brain. I will have these in my dreams. P.S I've screened shot your post for later re-reading. I love it I am filing this in my BINJIN diary. Is your cat still around somewhere in the house, @Felizak@t? I remember he’s full of BinJin virus as well. Hope he’s not outside or in a neighbor’s place already saying I-meows with his destined one! Lol. 1 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
girlpepper Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 4 hours ago, RiRiGaGa said: The beauty with our BinJin pairing though is that neither are intimidated by the other’s strengths nor do they try to change each other. They simply accept the other for who they are, cheer each other on, and complete each other's imperfections. Her strong expressiveness is matched by his patient listening. Couldn’t agree more. They are truly trusting and accepting of one another. No unintended projections, no misplaced misconceptions they simply adore each other for who they really are. By not putting each other on pedestal the friendship and love relationship thrive in the milieu of what’s real. Gotta love our BINJIN for being so real. 3 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Binjin2Ri Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 @RiRiGaGa thanks so much for such an insightful, eloquent and detailed analysis of why HB is attracted to SYJ. It’s so good to hear your perspective as a long time fan of HB. I am glad that your sentiments echoed my own. I discussed several pages back about how SYJ “gets” HB’s dark and witty humour. He showed this side of him when he was younger, but for some reason less so as he matured and seem to get more serious overtime. But SYJ has broken down this wall, and let him be himself again, funny and witty. This makes him more attractive IMO, he became a “jam” man again Not to mention he’s aging like a fine wine and became more handsome and manly as he got older It’s such a pleasure to be part of this forum. There are so many well thought of and intelligent analysis. Thank you to everyone who contribute to the discussion positively! In the meantime, let’s celebrate our OTP’s obvious love for each other. Someone mentioned on IG that SYJ has deleted the post below from her IG account. I wonder why? They look so cute and good together in this picture/vid. 3 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackbeannoodle Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 Oh my god HB, it's not hard to look straight ahead 1 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamjelbel Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 4 hours ago, Samsam said: I dont know if the link will work but hopefully it will. Look how cute that Hyun Bin’s thumb moved when he’s supposed to be sleeping. maybe it’s automatic I think we need to do a slow mo on all episodes of Cloy to catch their moments. I believe in a few months, most of us will shift careers to be investigators. I am so amazed how BINJIN shippers catch all those. Let us continue on believing and praying harder for them to reach the final destination so we can all get back to our normal routines. Have been losing sleeps for the past months. Wonderful day fellow shippers. 5 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Under BinJin Spell Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 10 hours ago, ncly said: For no reason I spent almost an hour yesterday watching the Swoon video of BinJin playing the ping-pong game. ... Row 1: smiling/laughing non-stop at SYJ's missions Row 2: trying to be competitive and couldn't understand why SYJ's so good at this game Row 3: pretending to be upset/to sulk at SYJ because he thinks the game's unfair for him (SYJ pretending to not being able to list out 3 good traits of RJH and her being so good at this game) @ncly SYJ tactically did not give That Man any chance at all to win by not allowing him to concentrate on mission-pong. She was constantly bombarding him with her trademark laughs, even when doing her mission. Lol. It’s obvious SYJ knew her opponent’s weakness and exploited it to the hilt to win. He he he. YSR : “You could do better, Misteo!” Now I no longer wonder who won their round of golf game back in L A. 2 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaryQ0 Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 (edited) 12 hours ago, Binjin2Ri said: Someone mentioned on IG that SYJ has deleted the post below from her IG account. I wonder why? They look so cute and good together in this picture/vid. if I’m not mistaking SJY didn’t upload that video on her instagram, it was another account that did. I read it on Twitter. Can someone please enlightened me, I couldn’t find the tweet. Edited May 19, 2020 by LavelyShai Quoted Image/Video 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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