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@sushilicious now that you've mentioned it, I did at one point thought of either their head of department OR the detective that Detective Ko had just send out? BUT if it's him, then he would've said 'why are you back?'  instead of 'why are you here?' then I thought perhaps it's PHJ's guy but if it was him then the reaction would've been different too. Judging by his reaction, it had to be someone that he's familiar with and his tone sounds a bit banmal? Though... I don't remember him ever speaking so casually with both Yoon and Hwa-Pyung :blink:

 

As for the vision. Correct me if I'm wrong but Hwa-Pyung did actually have visions of the daughter back in episode one/two so his visions doesn't specifically occur when the possessed is about to kill hence having the walking out of the ward vision might just be a scene to warn us that Detective Ko has been compromised and to expect him to act differently in his next scene? Though we shouldn't rule out Hwa-Pyung since as you mentioned, it might be a flashback because seeing the scene of Detective Ko gulping down the water and having it suddenly cut to Hwa-Pyung doing the same thing is fishy!

 

*flails* I NEED EPISODE 13. NO, I NEED ANSWERS :bawling:

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On 10/18/2018 at 8:56 PM, jeijei said:

Yoon should stop stop stop exorcising till he gets authorization. Or else, he's gonna dieee 

This is so thrilling, folks. Thanks, @Dramanoona

 

YK foresees his death. He might be the last straw :/

Maybe instead of being one of them, HP has psychic power that can vanquish PID. 

 

 

Him getting the authorization won't stop the curse. I don't think yoon being fired from being a exorcist has any actual consequence for his life and death. Like I don't think it will reduce the effectiveness of the prayers or exorcism. All these authorities and formalities are there so that they could keep an order and things wouldn't get out of control. There are instances in bible itself were human life is important than the authorities or traditions eg: helping that person during sabbath.

One has got to do what he has to.

Maybe Yoon is worried in his mind and this could affect his will power. 

Other than that doing unauthorised exorcism is not a sin, well if things go wrong Yoon could go jail. 

His life will be protected by the lord

 

I am saying this because I saw many comments saying its a sin and it will weaken him.

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Has everyone forgotten that the evil congresswoman met the priest where she has been meeting the ‘thingum’ that has been helping her over the years? There is a very good chance that he is PID. However, it could also be a red herring. The priest might be just passing by and wanted to say hi to the congress woman? :joy: ok that sounds quite ridiculous, but this is KD. 

I don’t think it is as simple as the priest or HP or whomever is PID. Both the congress woman showed signs of being possessed, jittery, she kept scratching her neck and HP had pain in the right eye. They could not both be PID. I hope it is some statue or urn that contains PID’s ashes and his evil spirit  is able to control people or posess them. Once they destroy the ashes, our heroes and their mates would be free.

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Omo I really can't stop grinding about guest:grin:

Okay,so in episode 12,we noticed that both sides(PY and HP) are like pushing against each other to CY telling him that hey, it's the other person. PY is really pushy on this topic,using aggression to tell CY that HP is PID. 

 

Meanwhile HP just gives that nonchalant face and just tell CY that it's not him. Using his experience of working together on CY to prove his innocence. Why is he so angry and aggressive about it anyways? His face,when he first met PY and compare it to the newest Episode. His face just filled with suspicion, it's like he isn't himself(More Chillax/Agressive). I think as the eye pain continues the more twisted he will get. Maybe his ways will start to get more over than usual before the actual possession.You know, doing the things and saying the things that PID used to do and say.

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Loving this drama! All the cast are good in acting including the little girl. 

 

I think PY is possessed by PID and PID actually wanted to possess HP in the end, when HP's psychic abilities are unraveled/unlocked. I think HP could also be the key to vanquish PID once and for all. Maybe HP’s psychic abilities are more than he or anyone knows , since his powers were locked since young. So PID could be trying to turn HP’s power into his benefit instead of against him. Mateo is good, but poor Mateo is getting weaker with all the exorcisms he had done. I hope Mateo doesn't die in the end... 

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but anw does anyone notice that PID's appearance when he was alive is a little bit Japanese? like the "il" from the name is from 일본 - meaning "Japan" in Korean

i know that Korean people are not really fond of Japan, but to the extend that make an evil killing people looking like Japanese... wow seriously

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On 10/19/2018 at 3:10 PM, gongcha said:

In Ep 12 when Hwapyung’s in the church to meet father Yang and then he suddenly see hospital’s scene (through the eyes of GY’s partner who is possessed)

But how can father Yang stays at the church and visits GY’s partner in hospital at the same time?

so who is the one visiting GY’s partner? Somebody that he knows? 

And last ep HP’s dad woke up because of the ring. So there maybe something can awake possessed people? 

Too many questions and the answers still remain in PD-nim’s head hahah...

I still believe that Father Yang was the one who visited the Detective Ko (Det Kang's senior) in the hospital. Actually, HP collapsed and fainted when Father Yang was not in the Church. 53:23 Father Yang: "I heard you fainted before I came in" So He was not in the Church when HP came.

Yes, I agreed with you that the possessed people can come back to their own self when they seeing something that reminds them to their beloved one; HP's father is his wedding ring that reminds him of his beloved wife, The pregnant lady who was reminded of her baby, the little girl Seo Yoon came back to her sense because of her beloved mom was awake and embraced her. So I think Love will be a weapon to fight against the evil. :)

 

12 hours ago, pamperedpanda said:

It’s been ages since my last post on soompi but this drama is seriously making me log back into my account :grimace: so let me just take the thing that’s been bothering me out of my chest before I drive myself insane LOL

 

I’m not sure if anyone has pointed it out here but is anyone else suspicious of Father Yang’s flask? We’re told that it’s alcohol and that he’s been back to drinking but I’ve noticed that they’ve been focusing on that flask in episode 12

 

1. When he was talking with Yoon, they focused on him taking quite a big gulp from it before telling Yoon that he shouldn’t have trusted Hwa-Pyung etc and then he took another gulp

 

2. Now this particular scene was when I started thinking, what is it with that flask or more to the liquid!? Even Hwa-Pyung was staring at it as Father Yang poured its content into his cup and as the camera focused on it, I feel like we audience are being teased into wondering if its truly alcohol or is it well... sea water? 

 

I don’t know. Maybe I’m overthinking it but I needed to get this out of my chest plus it sort of make sense, no? It might really be sea water, it can’t be holy water!? LOL Why focus on the liquid, why make Hwa-Pyung stare? Ok maybe he was thinking why is he drinking so early in the day? But still! Ergh.

 

Also, I realized some are questioning/wondering etc if it was Father Yang who came to Detective Ko’s ward. It might be him tbh, I mean we’re not exactly told of the time? I’m not sure if the subtitles were wrong but Father Yang did say to Hwa-Pyung ‘they told me you were unconscious BEFORE I came’ - that itself could be an indication that he wasn’t around and had been out, hence he could really have been the one that met Detective Ko and possessed him... but then again, the fact that Detective Ko said why are you here made me question if it’s someone he’s familiar with. Could it be Yoon - I doubt it  though as he was at Hwa-Pyung’s house or at least on his way so it might not be him, hmmm.

 

Right... now that everything’s out my chest. Thank you for bearing with my might be nonsense, tehee.

 I think PID possessed Priest Yang.

1. Everytime they mentioned PID then the next scene they showed Priest Yang. In the beginning ep 12, Yoon and Kang was talking about Who is PID and Kang told him that PID is watching them, she told him that it is near them, then Priest Yang appeared LOL..

2. for me, the look of Priest Yang while watching HP leaved the crematorium look like he's staring on his prey. 

3. It looks like Priest Yang planted doubts here and there in Yoon's head to suspect HP. He tried to break HP-Yoon's bonding

4. i think just like Harry Potter, part of PID might left inside HP. However, after 20 years, the suppressed power done to young HP was worn off (LOL they have expiration date), HP's psychic power is back along with the little part of PID inside of his body..  PID itself had moved out from Young HP's body right before HP's psychic power was sealed. Now, as HP's ability comes back, PID is waiting to go back to HP body.. the most ideal vessel for him.

5. Ghost of HP's dad came back because of his love to HP and help HP with the hint.. the telephone number is from Sharing hands Chief Room, Priest Yang

6. i saw Choi Yoon's heart became weaker and full of fear (he was reminded with the curse) when he's with Priest Yang at the rest. Secondly, after the conversation over the phone with Priest Yang, Choi Yoon who still believed in HP's innocence instead of Priest Yang's reminder not to trust HP, ended up get his soul attacked with the curse with intense pains

7. I think PID and PHJ purposely let Det. Kang saw them since she'll be the next target to be killed.

8. I agree with you about the fluid in Priest Yang's alcohol flask.. I think it's something that can quench his thirst without seen drinking possessively like other possessed persons. I also notice that  Priest Yang wasn't in the church when HP came there looking for him. It's possible, he himself visited Det. Goh or he placed Det. Goh colleage/chief to possess Det. Goh and go ahead with their plan to kill Det. Kang

 

So far I love so much about this show, I love the trio heroes and their chemistry.. I love Det Kang, she's very beautiful, smart and badass (I never found her annoying), I love HP (and his sidekicks).. Hp is super handsome, together with his shaman friend, they are super cute and adorable. Of course I love cool headed, quiet and warm-hearted Choi Yoon. He's the most handsome priest I've ever seen. How I wish he quit his job (being a normal priest instead of exorcist) after they win agains PID. hahahhahahha 

Applause for all the possessed actors with their excellent acting, and of course, I won't forget Priest Yang's and PHJ's outstanding acting too 

 

 

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Hi all, I'm probably very late to the party but anyways can I just say Mateo is the most attractive Priest ever?! and why is he the priest again? to keep the girls away? lol he can totally make girls go crazy over him. The show becomes interesting with each passing episode, I like how they have kept the curiosity quotient high and intact. Everytime you start to think that this is PID they totally change the stance and point the compass at somebody else. I'm excited to see how they take things from here, one lead is possessed, one is cursed.Sigh I just hope they dont kill Mateo off.Fingers crossed.

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I think there is going to be a really big ending. Considering up till now, the resolution is still unclear. Any thoughts on a season 2?:open_mouth:

 

Would they be able to win the Superior PID in just four episodes? If they could destroy PID in just four episodes then that means PID is not even that powerful. It’s like false advertising :anguished:

 

It’s kind of plausible that it could happen, maybe in season 2 they switch up the roles. Maybe one of the trio will become the Antagonist while the other two hunts them down. Or in this story, PID is unbeatable and the only ending to solve this is to seal PID away for good.

 

And also I have this fear, that HP’s Grandfather might....die... like brain dead, because ultimately PID wants HP and PID who is a psychotic murderer,I think he would want to pull HP even more deeper in to the dark zone so that he can control him.

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12 hours ago, aoikarin said:

 

I still believe that Father Yang was the one who visited the Detective Ko (Det Kang's senior) in the hospital. Actually, HP collapsed and fainted when Father Yang was not in the Church. 53:23 Father Yang: "I heard you fainted before I came in" So He was not in the Church when HP came.

 

1. Everytime they mentioned PID then the next scene they showed Priest Yang. In the beginning ep 12, Yoon and Kang was talking about Who is PID and Kang told him that PID is watching them, she told him that it is near them, then Priest Yang appeared LOL..

aaah thank you! i did not notice this!

so from this point, Father Yang really visited Dectective Go in hospital (visitor's steps really sounds like leather shoes too). But dectective Go spoke banmal - informally with the visitor - and as i remember we have not seen these 2 together in one scene before in this drama. So maybe it will turn out that the 2 have already known each other before? like they are in same age and... who knows, everything can happen in this drama... LOL

 

and i notice that scene too! Gil Young said PID is always watching them and suddenly father Yang entered...

 

And also, after watching again ep 12, i dont think GY would die. Until now, her role in the trio is the least important... i feel like the writer has yet shown GY's role in destroying PID, and also i think her role will be emphasized in the next 4 eps

as when PID tries to plant doubts in HwaPyung and Yoon, we have GY who just believes in evidence, truth and justice. So she will be the one who solves all this trust-problems between HP and Yoon

Detective Go too, i dont think he will die. The belief in justice maybe the one that rescue him from devils

PID possesses people by their dark sides. And after all, maybe the thing to destroy PID is not HP's shaman ability, not Yoon's exorcism but is the trust and belief among people - which GY always tries to prove through evidences!

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44 minutes ago, gongcha said:

PID tries to plant doubts in HwaPyung and Yoon, we have GY who just believes in evidence, truth and justice. So she will be the one who solves all this trust-problems between HP and Yoon

Trust problems is one thing, but because PID have the capabilities to jump around, for her being there is still hard to shake off the suspicion. Because there are no evidence  that PID is in whose body, so the suspicion will continue even if there is evidence.

 

Let’s just say that PY is PID and the tunnel scene confirms it, but how come, during the hospital scene, they still hide his face?  I believe the tunnel scene starts off first before the hospital bed scene.  A lot of stuff remain unanswered. 

 

:sweatingbullets: Honestly I felt that PID can’t be destroyed now that I look at how many episodes we have left (Good n Evil is a nature thing, so I don’t think that we can extinguish the evil for good, but we can give evil the best possible way to end it.)And I don’t think that anyone of the three will die, but I do think that PID will be sealed forever. Sealed in where? A body? A box? Is PID immune to the Cross or nah? I’m not too sure. 

 

Like maybe the emotions of a human could seal PID?  But PID is immune to emotions? That’s why he kilks everyone without a care. 

 

GY I think she will arrest PHJ at the end. For the murder that PHJ did or something. Through the next episode, I think GY will have another level of understanding and believing. Same goes for Detective Ko.

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On 10/20/2018 at 3:39 PM, akiera said:

I don't think yoon being fired from being a exorcist has any actual consequence for his life and death. Like I don't think it will reduce the effectiveness of the prayers or exorcism. All these authorities and formalities are there so that they could keep an order and things wouldn't get out of control

 

I don't know much about Catholic exorcism, but this is my take on this based on what info is available online. Exorcism's efficacy relies on two things: the exorcist's spiritual belief and the permission from church authority. While it may seem that appointment is just for formality's sake, it has a fundamental role: the appointing bishop discerns which priest is wise and leads a holy life, and is therefore apt to deal with demons. 

 

Why can Yoon possibly go to jail if someone dies? Because he is unauthorized. If the possessed dies, he can get in trouble because there's no documentation to support his claim that it's a possession rather than a medical/psychological issue. The church will not even back him up.

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1 hour ago, jeijei said:

 

I don't know much about Catholic exorcism, but this is my take on this based on what info is available online. Exorcism's efficacy relies on two things: the exorcist's spiritual belief and the permission from church authority. While it may seem that appointment is just for formality's sake, it has a fundamental role: the appointing bishop discerns which priest is wise and leads a holy life, and is therefore apt to deal with demons. 

 

Why can Yoon possibly go to jail if someone dies? Because he is unauthorized. If the possessed dies, he can get in trouble because there's no documentation to support his claim that it's a possession rather than a medical/psychological issue. The church will not even back him up.

Can I say that Yoon is literally placing his own life on the line to save people from PID at the same time at risk of being punished by the church...Wow...He is so heroic. Love his attitude of not running away from evil despite possible severe consequences.

 

Actually all three of them , are heroic on their own nature. Haha

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I still can't get over how some K-netz are still on Jung Eun Chae's case.

She is doing pretty darn well as GY, the sceptic turned believer detective.

I am glad that the next arc will focus on her.

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I wish I could watch all of the scary scenes of this drama (I skipped most of them)  because the series is good and  the two actors (Kim JaeWook and Kim DongWook) acted from Coffee Prince (one of my fave drama) reunited in this drama.  

 

Only thing is,  horror scenes (any dramas, movies pics etc) give me nightmares. I tried to watch few scary scenes of this drama few days ago  but then I got a nightmare last night. I was in part of that dream I was trying to scream but my voice won't come out and I almost got choked and suffocated by someone/something evil. I was trying to reach the bible but the evil one is stronger and still suffocated me. 

When I woke up. I was relieved that it was only a really bad dream.

 

Not sure  If I could continue to watch the upcoming episodes, maybe I'll just skip the scary scenes just like I used to. 

 

 

 

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All the Harry Potter-Voldermort vibes suddenly made me think of a what if Priest Yang is the Professor Snape in this drama? :no_mouth: He is in fact just shady and truly is the Snape with the boys best interest in mind. Like Snape, Priest Yang has known both Yoon and Hwa-Pyung since they were just young boys. He is like the father-figure/mentor to Yoon similar to how Snape was to Draco Malfoy - ok, Yoon isn’t anything like Draco but you get my point - and Hwa-Pyung is the Harry who lost his family to the evil Park Il Do and somehow because Priest Yang might have been guilty because of what happened in the past, he could have decided to secretly protect Hwa-Pyung... idk, everything’s just so possible! Actually, Priest Yang could even be the Dumbledore, hmmm

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Why can't Yoon tell them about the curse and sort it out first. Hate seeing him writhing in pain. Surely he's not of much use in his present condition.. 

The writer has done a great job weaving us in circles. I hope the trinity can be saved. Hopefully they all put all their cards on the table and go into the final encounter with no secrets. 

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30 minutes ago, tas82 said:

Why can't Yoon tell them about the curse and sort it out first. Hate seeing him writhing in pain. Surely he's not of much use in his present condition.. 

The writer has done a great job weaving us in circles. I hope the trinity can be saved. Hopefully they all put all their cards on the table and go into the final encounter with no secrets. 

I guess the only way that Yoon’s curse could be lifted is if PID dies. I think he doesn’t want them to feel upset about it, as  he wants to fight PID all the way, if they found out about it, they might ask him to stop.

 

It’s definitely hard for him to hide it...:bawling: and I feel for him as well. The trio’s past are really upsetting and it’s all PID’s fault! Hope that the writer would give us the best possible ending. As this story isn’t really a clean and light story, chances are we might get endings that we don’t really want. *fingerscross*

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4 hours ago, uglypearl said:

 

Not sure  If I could continue to watch the upcoming episodes, maybe I'll just skip the scary scenes just like I used to. 

 

*hugs* I like your pic. Hehehe

 

I don't like scary scenes too and tends to get nightmares or has issues sleeping later.

I watched it in the day time only.

 

But this.... I can't stop myself from watching.

It's too good!!

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