K-dramafan22 Posted August 24, 2022 Share Posted August 24, 2022 Yeah @AlterEgoNo9 I found another believer of Bu Yeon here!!! In Bu-yeon, we believe!! Still cannot reconcile how this Bu-yeon is going to be integrated into the love story of Jang Uk and Naksu now...it seems like she has no room to stand between them....at least that's how it is being portrayed to us now... For me, blues eyes and the blind-folded lady Jang Uk saw was the one who dazzled and mesmerised him... Did he get a memory loss after each time he saw her??? If the blue eyes never appeared, Jang Uk would have given Mudeok/Naksu a miss!! That's why I think Bu-yeon is an important character. Ok ok....I have to let this go and not let it eat me up..... I shall be contented just watching the beautiful cinematography of the fighting scenes and witness the prowess of the 4 seasons again......*reminding myself* 1 hour ago, frozentundra said: I remember this, too. Like you, I assumed it was because he was a soul shifter and not the actual dad of Buyeon. But another way to interpret it would be that he didn't consider himself Buyeon's father since the baby died in utero and was only revived several months later by the ice stone. I don't know which is the right interpretation. (He does seems close with Choyeon, though?) Thanks for sharing the same memory of that scene with me. I think he is just a good actor soul-shifter helping Jin Mu..... but then again...I can't be sure...lol..... the palette is in the writer-nims hands.....let's see..... 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deishii Posted August 24, 2022 Share Posted August 24, 2022 I came across some video clips in YT and remembered the time where both Jang Uk and Mudeok/Naksu were still struggling to prove their worth or reclaim their status. How Jang Uk started as this weak and useless son of a great mage. I am so proud of Jang Uk and what we had become. It’s like watching your baby take those first steps until he grows up into a fine, young man. What I like about their love story is the progression or the gradual development of their feelings. Although, I prefer them to be more lovey-dovey but it wouldn’t be fitting for a notorious assassin like Naksu, right? For the last 2 episodes, I really do hope that we can see more of Bu Yeon. It’s just right for her to take the spotlight as the most powerful priestess. I want to see more of what she can do. Annihilate all those villains and wipe them out from Daeho. Lol 11 hours ago, K-dramafan22 said: Oh??? Plot twist?? Still digesting this...... Oh..just saw news of JSM going to film a movie with Kang Ha Neul...30Days.....does this really mean end of JSM in Season 1 without any hope? Jung So Min and Kang Ha Neul!? Sign me up please! I moved on so fast. Lol They’re going to be paired again. Yehey! I think I ship Jung So Min in almost all of her co-actors. She filmed a movie with Seo In Guk as well. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frozentundra Posted August 24, 2022 Share Posted August 24, 2022 On 8/23/2022 at 2:10 AM, marrez1 said: I don't think JangUk will have a hard time with Nasku's original body, he doesn't seem to be the type to focus on the body, on the other hand the crown prince will have a hard time for this, afterwards for the audience will be weird This. Jang Uk is in love with Naksu, not Buyeon (he doesn't even know Buyeon, and Naksu does not even have access to any of Buyeon's memories). He always knew it was Naksu. It was Naksu he recognized from the start, and Naksu the (former) assassin who he wants. The audience, though, is in love with Jung So Min. THAT is the issue with swapping out actresses at this point. I am sure Buyeon is a really interesting person and powerful priestess, but she has literally had only a handful of lines/appearances at this point. I'm happy to see more of her, but she is not the one in a relationship with Uk. It's just that we the audience are used to Jung So Min's chemistry with the other actors. And I don't think, after 20 episodes, it will be easy to sway them otherwise. This is why there is so much debate on this thread and elsewhere over this issue. 5 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maribella Posted August 24, 2022 Share Posted August 24, 2022 4 hours ago, SleepyKitty said: Mudeok is bu yeon. Or a persona that bu yeon took after she found herself stranded in sari village. Bu yeon did not soul shift, she just created a new identity, presumably because she wants to stay hidden (maybe) for whatev She was sent to the bottom of the lake, was there anything about her being rescued? Something's missing here. @LeftCoastOppa if you promised not to show that chart again, I would promise to keep my murderous intent of So-I in Spoiler Kill kill @K-dramafan22 you beat me to it. That chart does not help with the soul shifts. Aren't the Queen and Jin husband occupied? One more week. 4 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocher22 Posted August 24, 2022 Share Posted August 24, 2022 Its a little scary how powerful the couple is.. Uk easily lured the soul shifter into the secret room and Naksu killed the man with two tansu movements. 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
partyon Posted August 24, 2022 Share Posted August 24, 2022 Chingus, almost done with ep 18. Will put up a poll soon! On a side note. So I is making me see red. Why is there no Truck of Doom when you need it? 2 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleepyKitty Posted August 24, 2022 Share Posted August 24, 2022 3 hours ago, maribella said: She was sent to the bottom of the lake, was there anything about her being rescued? Something's missing here. You're right. A lot of things are still missing because we haven't been privy into bu yeon's journey at all so far. Most thing that we know about her are based on circumstantial evidence and speculations. However, there is this recurring bit that some people have point out about mudeok's and buyeon's ear; e.g. during earlier episode, heo yeom thought mudeok's ear looks familiar, and also, when jin ho gyeong mulling over how so yi's ear looks different than how buyeon's used to be. Apparently people's ears are feature that don't change much despite how much they grow up, or something. Added to that, some physical traits that have been found on mudeok's body that is also similar to buyeon's, like the scar and the mark behind the ear. Well, it's not much, but I doubt the writers would randomly add this if they didn't mean anything.... Then again I could be wrong, of course. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
partyon Posted August 24, 2022 Share Posted August 24, 2022 Why do I still want to see Yul and Naksu together....? 1 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocher22 Posted August 24, 2022 Share Posted August 24, 2022 0:04...it was a bit sad when JG glanced at the sword... Eventhough its been 20 years, its like they continued a conversation they started that morning. Nice. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
partyon Posted August 24, 2022 Share Posted August 24, 2022 Pre-finale Poll Last poll before the finale. Thanks to @emsel and @SleepyKitty for question ideas. And to @rocat who pointed out that Uk's hairdo might have gotten its inspiration from this? I can't unsee it now. Let's vote! re: @Sleepy Owl @confusedheart @agenth Tagging: @LeftCoastOppa @sadthe1st @maribella @orion00 @SleepyKitty @TheQueenReturns @kwayteow_mama @K-dramafan22 @Paperx Atelier @Tina288 @iamsherry @Rollito Deprimavera @backstreetboysfan @frozentundra @andy78 @marrez1 @Jeannie @AlterEgoNo9 @emsel @rocat @CA C @deishii @Pinkypoo @rocher22 @Yinye @Gumiho @ilovenico @lilyphenix @Dramafreak 3 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleepyKitty Posted August 24, 2022 Share Posted August 24, 2022 Definitely shifting into park jin's body because who doesn't want such silky mane of glory for themselves? Also the thing that is lacking in this drama is, i guess, someone doing this to the writers and directors Like, sometimes, i just want the drama to just, hey, focus! Stop blabbering nonsense and adding unnecessary fillers! Stop spoiling your best moment on the previews! Just, calm down! 6 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
partyon Posted August 24, 2022 Share Posted August 24, 2022 25 minutes ago, SleepyKitty said: Like, sometimes, i just want the drama to just, hey, focus! Stop blabbering nonsense and adding unnecessary fillers! Stop spoiling your best moment on the previews! Just, calm down! Yes, this is also one of the main issues I'm having with this drama. There are a lot of fillers in the episodes. When you look at it closer, the plot progress has been quite slow. There have been episodes where I've been so frustrated of the plot just circling around instead of moving forward. Ep 17 was one of them. 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilyphenix Posted August 24, 2022 Share Posted August 24, 2022 47 minutes ago, partyon said: Pre-finale Poll I'm answering your poll questions here: - Voted for Park Jin by default, because I don't like any of the two other characters and wasn't sure how their position could benefit Naksu. The only disappointment with these voting options is that it means the end of Naksu/Jang Uk love story if these are the only bodies she could shift into... - The other thing that is missing in the ship that should have sailed by now, is a resolution to whatever is going on between Maidservant Kim and either Master Lee or Jang Jin. But again we all know that right now the person she really is in love with is JJ. The thing is, though, that she used to have a crush for Jang Uk's dad. So what happens when he comes back? He never reciprocated her feelings after his wife died, and I can't imagine him doing so now. Bottom line, there is no point in dragging the desert that is her love life out: she is a beautiful and lovely lady who obviously would like to give and receive love, and I think she deserves it. I'm not confident that something will happen by the time we watch the finale, but I shared my two cents: Give us a resolution already! #TeamMaidservantKim all the way, lol! 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
partyon Posted August 24, 2022 Share Posted August 24, 2022 54 minutes ago, lilyphenix said: The only disappointment with these voting options is that it means the end of Naksu/Jang Uk love story if these are the only bodies she could shift into... Yes, chingu. These were Mu Deok's/Naksu's first choices though, and I thought I would honor her wishes in Q2. 57 minutes ago, lilyphenix said: I'm not confident that something will happen by the time we watch the finale, but I shared my two cents: Give us a resolution already! #TeamMaidservantKim all the way, lol! Park Jin is too dense when it comes to love. Master Lee is a safer choice for Maidservant Kim if she wants to marry before she turns 60! Don't worry about Park Jin, though. His true love story is with his silky hair! 1 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocher22 Posted August 24, 2022 Share Posted August 24, 2022 Yep, their hands speak for themselves... I dont like how CY is shown to be so clueless. She was completely confused when Naksu/MD opened the magical door. I expected CY to be suspicious and start investigating it herself. I like the CP.. But, he is just waiting to be rescued. He should be worried about the whole kingdom. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dramafreak Posted August 24, 2022 Share Posted August 24, 2022 2 hours ago, SleepyKitty said: Like, sometimes, i just want the drama to just, hey, focus! Stop blabbering nonsense and adding unnecessary fillers! Stop spoiling your best moment on the previews! Just, calm down! haha! I think they must be under a lot of pressure, so they are like let us just tease everyone. Then everyone will stay until we show what everyone is waiting for in the last 5 minutes And lord... they do need focus. Stretched too far and too thin. I would have preferred them cutting off some extra bits and I have said this before (I don't understand why do we have Yuk-ok? They could have focused a bit more on keeping our OTP bickering and together on the screen for a longer time from episodes 9-16). Pacing has suffered! When we expected politics, intrigue and magical war, we are getting introspection and fillers! 7 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlterEgoNo9 Posted August 24, 2022 Share Posted August 24, 2022 5 hours ago, rocher22 said: Its a little scary how powerful the couple is.. Uk easily lured the soul shifter into the secret room and Naksu killed the man with two tansu movements. MASTER & LOVELY STUDENT TAG TEAM 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocher22 Posted August 24, 2022 Share Posted August 24, 2022 Another great teamwork of the main couple... Those drums were a smart move, so all the attention was focused on Uk's entrance.. That was a really cool entrance but Uk wasnt arrogant.. I liked how everyone was speechless when Uk mentioned the book. This time Park Jin didnt push Uk aside. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadthe1st Posted August 24, 2022 Share Posted August 24, 2022 9 hours ago, K-dramafan22 said: He replied he was not their father, he was elsewhere for this one, i thought he meant he isnt the father for bu yeon.. he was married into the jin family when mama jin was already pregnant with bu yeon.. i think so-i was asking why he conspired for a fake bu yeon.. 3 hours ago, partyon said: His true love story is with his silky hair! there is only one person in daeho who can compete with him.. cho yeon and her super thick hair lol 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maribella Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 2. If forced to, whose body should Naksu soul shift to? (please leave a comment and tell us why you chose the person) This is a really tricky question, it could be an indication of one's inner self. But I want to take the easy way out so I ask myself whom is the least stomache churning for JU to kiss. Park Jin. @partyon you and other pollsters are wicked. 3 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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