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This episode made me :bawling::bawling: especially for CS! I cried when he waited for MW at the tunnel and when he was at the bus stop. 

 

:bawling::bawling:

 

my thoughts right now:

 

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DISCLAIMER: The views expressed in this post do not necessarily reflect the views of angelbeast90   :)

 

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https://melohwa.blogspot.com/2019/08/hotel-del-luna-ep-14-spoilers-yeo-jin.html

 

Article: Naver 'Hotel Del Luna' Lee Ji Eun to Seo Yi Sook, "Is Yeo Jin Goo actually Lee Do Hyun?" 

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Are you kidding me?? You're sending off Cheong Myung just like that??

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Yeo Jin Goo's acting is crazy, isn't it..?? He cried so badly that my heart broke.


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Man Wol wasn't the one whose love wasn't reciprocated, but Cheong Myung. He watched over her as a firefly for a thousand years. The princess' greed was forgiven, she gets to date the enemy she killed. But Cheong Myung.. God Mago, in this day and age, you'd be impeached.


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Ha... This doesn't feel refreshing. Cheong Myung is so pitiful that I can't sleep. Ha.. I'd rather see Cheong Myung reincarnated as Yeo Jin Goo, have them clear up the misunderstandings and end it happily. Ha.. this is so sad.


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Oh.. But his emotional scene was the best among all male actors I've seen.. He was hitting his thigh and crying. That was so sad, I could feel his frustration, and that he's at a lost of what to do.. That was good..


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Cheong Myung has waited for so long, but it felt so empty sending him off like that. They didn't even hug.


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The charismatic point about the Hong sisters, their storylines get more boring as it goes. It shows here too...


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I was so surprised when Yeo Jin Goo cried. He's just crying for real, isn't he?


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No, but Cheong Myung is pitiful if you send him off like that. ㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠ He stayed by Man Wol's side for 1300 years as a firefly.. but he's sent off so suddenly. ㅠㅠㅠㅠ I hope he'll be reincarnated and get a happy ending.


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Hul.... Yeo Jin Goo's emotional acting gave me goosebumps.. My heart hurt together with him.

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I've been out for this weekend and was not able to catch anything, but today I saw the ending of today's episode 

Me: :bawling: What's going on? Did she go?

Then.. NO PREVIEW!!!

 

5 hours ago, vangsweetie637 said:

Awww CS! I am sorry i cannot comfort you when you cried for your MW! Instead, i was like this too:

 

:bawling:

 

Me, too. CS's crying is soo heartbreaking. 

I gotta see what happens with English subtitles. 

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On 8/25/2019 at 4:45 PM, angelbeast90 said:

Man Wol wasn't the one whose love wasn't reciprocated, but Cheong Myung. He watched over her as a firefly for a thousand years. The princess' greed was forgiven, she gets to date the enemy she killed. But Cheong Myung.. God Mago, in this day and age, you'd be impeached.

 

No one owes love to anybody else.

 

CM did stubbornly hang on to her, despite the fact that his existence caused her immense pain, but so what?

It does not change the fact that he got her family killed... and yes there is a reasonably logical progression that lead to that, and his intentions were not completely evil, but still... had CS been in the same situation, I bet things would have turned out radically different.

 

CM made a completely rational decision: he chose his interests over hers and just went on with the princess' suggestion... no attempt to take responsibility for the mess he'd made or to find a solution that did not require sacrificing a whole bunch of innocent people just so. His life and his men's were more important than hers and her people's. Period. A love that can be measured on such scales is no love at all.

 

Not to mention his utter lack of understanding of her character. Right down to their very last interaction. Even is MW no longer detests him, there's no way she'd settle for someone like him. Not after she's had a taste of the real deal with CS.

 

Also: CS is 100% on her side and always does the right thing. This will always win against CM's flexible ethics* and selfishness.

 

PS: *when CM was talking to YW after capturing them and he suggested that as long as some of the innocent villagers get hanged as rebels he may be able to keep YW alive as a slave... that look of shock and disgust on YW's face... well that was me. that guy is scum and you cannot convince me otherwise. 

 

Also how very predictable that the thought of saving MW's life wasn't even his own, he just went along with YW's plan.

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That was a beautiful ending of one love story. 

They both looked  so gorgeous as they stood next to that tree. 

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Hmm, am i the only one who is okay with how CM was sent off? Of course i am saddened that he remained a firefly for 1300 years. But the love MW felt for him died the day YW was killed. For 1300 years she only had resentment and hatred. I think if she hugged him or gave him an intimate gesture, it wouldn’t fit into the MW personality we have come to see. Even when CM and her were together, we didn’t see much intimacy between them either. Yes, we saw some sweet moments but their love was never truly expressed through gestures and intimacy like CS and MW. Another thing is that while I do not blame CM entirely for his actions, I also didn’t expect that MW will still love him after 1300 years of deep hatred. As some of us said, CM may have been her first love (we don’t know for sure since we only saw her when she met CM) we do know that CS is her love again after 1300 years. And this one, she holds much closer and deeper than CM. The moment she thought CM betrayed her, she only wanted to kill him. But the moment she thought CS was CM, her mind went berserk and she even thought she could kill him (which shocked her because she knows she wouldn’t hurt him). It is different from the way she handled CM. For me, i am okay with her little conversation with CM at the tree and then just sending him off on the bridge like that. For me, CM is no longer a part of her love. When she understood the ‘truth’, her resentment finally settled. She lived 1300 years hating for the same reason until she was shown that things didn’t happen exactly as she saw it (although it was an unfair exchange as well). But by then, she doesn’t love CM anymore. She loves CS. CM and MW’s ties ended when the truth became known. 

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Omo...the watermelon couple...YS and MR..

They made me laugh a little.  

I like the garden scene.

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7 hours ago, Anh Nguyen Roff said:

Guys, please don’t judge me but with this episode I feel really really sorry for CM. He had such an upsetting life (was put in a position of a betrayer then be a firefly for more than 1000 years), heartbreaking lovestory and can’t-be-worse ending (never reborn). What had he done wrong to deserve all of these? Until the last moment of his entire destiny, MW decided to leave him. 

 

I like CS as well and whatever MW chooses will just bring me down.

 

The “Ghost Avengers” was awesome!!! Though they didn’t have chance to show their powers. 

 

Hi chingu! We won’t judge you. We all respect each other’s thoughts :)

 

i admit. I feel saddened by CM’s story too. The fact that he remained as a firefly and kept a promise to YW was heartbreaking. However, many things happened and CM became known as the one who betrayed MW (even she feels the same). I can easily tell that MW didn’t love CM anymore after 1300 years however she still did have a gesture of care when she found out the truth of her resentment. CM and MW could have been lovers but it didn’t end that way. I understand why MW would just leave him. He is not in her heart like CS is. 

 

@triplem chingu, please help me merge this post so that it doesn’t seem like i am posting consecutively :) thanks. 

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19 minutes ago, rocher22 said:

Omo...the watermelon couple...YS and MR..

They made me laugh a little.  

 

I also have a confession to make, MR is turning out to be my favorite character. She would be totally irritating in real life, mooching off her friends, not paying back money, stealing their melons and invading their houses, and I would hate her as a female lead, but she's a fun side character. Like karma is trying to pull her down by getting her into bad situations but she just takes them all in stride. Couldn't get perfect Chan Seung back, no problem, she just moves on to the next guy who'll put up with her. I don't think it is even from her princess life, she did not act entitled during that liferime. If she were dead, MaGo #4 would be frustrated with her.

Hmmm, thinking about it, she is usual hong sisters second female lead (selfish, self-centered, user - the same character trope that made my blood boil in the previous dramas). Why do I like her here?

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Hmm, not sure my viewpoint would be that welcome on this thread right now with the way the sentiment is running. Needless to say, I continue to feel heartbreak for all members of the main love triangle.

 

I'm amazed at CM keeping his promise to watch over MW all that time, imprisoning his spirit into the form of a firefly, and loving and longing for MW all that time. However, MW's thirst for CM's blood didn't desist in all and when she thought of him, it was bound with thoughts of her eventual revenge.  She kept the thoughts of him entwined with undissipated hatred, so much so that when she for a brief time thought that CS was CM manifested, she couldn't even look at CS and was willing to turn the serial killer into an actual monster who would kill CS/CM since she couldn't bring herself to actually kill CS. And, to think that if MW had ever said CM' name out loud, then he would have manifested before her, and she could have had it out with him. However, it took CS to bring CM out enough to make MW aware of CM being around.

 

MW has to confront her own feelings and her own flaws as well. It's now when she sees YW dating his enemy, the princess, that she's aware that time and lives have moved on around her. The people she's avenging have reincarnated and continue to live their lives without really being aware of their previous lives, including her. She also has to choose what she has to do. But, her feelings of wanting revenge are so strong that it requires CS to bring her to herself again as well.

 

Even though CS is the one who foments all of the actions that need to happen to MW, he ultimately finds himself having to watch and wait while MW takes care of her final deed without him. By escorting CM into the afterlife, she's finally releasing herself as well as CM. It makes sense as to why CM would make one final attempt for MW to join him since he's loved her for so long, and she had once loved him, too. However, while he has been frozen in his state of being, MW has changed with her attraction to CS, so it was inevitable that she would refuse CM's hand and return to CS.

 

I suppose that's why even though CS' crying was so sad and well done, I didn't find myself crying with him. Because I know that as sad as he is, that she's coming back to him. It's just that time in the other realm does not flow at the same rate as ours, as the drama likes to tell the viewers over and over. So, she's been gone for over a month in CS' time, but she's probably just dropped CM off on the bridge and set him on his way.

 

I am curious about how the drama is going to enable CS and MW to be together. Now that MW has released her final grudge, and the tree has lost all of its flowers (other than the one that is lodged in CS' heart), it is time for MW herself to walk the bridge into the afterlife and wait to be reincarnated. One of the things I rather dislike is having the soul come back as another person, so I hope that the ending won't take that tack. I'm actually not sure what kind of ending I would prefer in terms of how they keep MW and CS together. I do have faith that they will finish up together, though.

 

The bigger question I have is for YN and HJ. I know that HJ was planning on going to the afterlife with his little sister, but I wonder if he has to go. I suppose he will since HJ and YN can never really share the same time line as HJ explains to YN in ep 14. I wonder how their story line will end.

 

One final thing, I have confidence that the baby of the Yoon family that Mrs. Choi saved instead of let die will be a daughter. I can't imagine that her good deed will be rewarded with continued flourishing of the Yoon line. Her flashback was pretty awful in what happened to her and her daughter. I hope those souls who did that to her daughter all suffered horrendously in the afterlife.

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9 minutes ago, stroppyse said:

I am curious about how the drama is going to enable CS and MW to be together. Now that MW has released her final grudge, and the tree has lost all of its flowers (other than the one that is lodged in CS' heart), it is time for MW herself to walk the bridge into the afterlife and wait to be reincarnated. One of the things I rather dislike is having the soul come back as another person, so I hope that the ending won't take that tack. I'm actually not sure what kind of ending I would prefer in terms of how they keep MW and CS together. I do have faith that they will finish up together, though.

 

He will likely join her.  Like the dog and the owner.  And cross that bridge together.  I think he has a weak heart.  And I don’t think that is just figurative.  I think he has a heart condition.  He has been primed for sacrifice by Hong Sisters from Day1.  The lamb.  He has always lived with her best interests (and actually everyone’s best interests) at heart.  Whilst portrayed time and time again as the one who is “weak hearted” (by MW’s definition), his is actually the strongest.  The giving heart.  The sacrificial heart.  If anyone deserves to go through that tunnel in a limousine with a rousing send off, it would be CS.  It takes great moral courage to let go of the very thing you treasure the most because she had unfinished business with a past lover.  No strings attached on his end.  He didn’t guilt trip her, he didn’t say, “after all that I have done for you?”.  He just let her go at great cost to himself.  That’s the right way to send someone off.  The Captain’s in contrast was self serving.  Why did he hang around for 1300years?  It was not for her benefit.  It was for his.  He couldn’t let her go.  His was a love on HIS terms, not hers.  CS’s love was always on her terms, for her benefit.  There is simply no comparison.

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Ep 14 ratings lower than last Sunday's, but not bad.

 

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Still on CM? Let the guy go in peace, people.... hahhahaa

 

1. There wasnt much romance on their part to begin with... yes they met a few times but there was hardly any heart to heart or confessions between the two to start a real romance.

 

MW probably had a crush on CM (she was young then right, hehe) but that was it,  before cruel realities happened. CM might like/love MW compared to the princess (yes she was heartless) but it was overly dramatic to see himself killed for it... sigh

 

2. Again as pointed out by many, CS had a better advantange as he is her present and he has show her how tender, helpful and loving he can be to his clients and her. He literally made her a good person, willing to help people/ghosts and end their grudges (see Madam Yoon's story). CM cant even compare as she spent far too long resenting him and wouldnt be able to see any love for him since her heart has already been printed on CS.

 

3. After 1300 years, she need a break from all the heartache, seeing YW happy, one by one her resentment vanishes and with the person who stirred her heart, she knew (as being told by several MGs) that her time is up and she needs to go to the bridge. (The theory on her memories being erased as she walked along the bridge is good, erasing all her painful memories and just looking foward to he future, although it is far fetched for her not to remember everything - how would she know how to go bk and to be with CS when everyone knows she has to cross the bridge eventually, and end the story?...  sigh)

 

4. I repeat, CM didnt have enough airtime for us to root for him... 

 

5. Cant wait for the subs! 

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Out of topic: guys, if you want to see some more YJG crying, try watching Hwayi. a colleague gave me a dvd years ago, but I did not watch it, but since I am YJG crazy now, I finally came around it, and it is soooooo good. it is more emotional than scary/action so dont worry about the plot summary or pictures hehe

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I think CM's story holds in terms of grand romance Sageuk but this isn't the genre....sadly as the story has progressed through 14 episodes we have seen how CS has evolved and how much of a better match he is to MW. He has quietly been by her side, he didn't make life or death decisions for her but let her make those choices while at every point reminding her that choosing to let go is a strength, happiness is a choice....he didn't ask for anything in return....so that is why MW walked away from CM....it felt organic to me.....I mean who would not make that choice....MW and CM could have been a lot of things....but that lifetime passed by both of them while they held onto all of their regret and grudge....it was time to let go....also CS deserves happiness....I am hoping he gets some of that at least

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2 hours ago, charlieblue17 said:

No one owes love to anybody else.

CM stubbornly did hang on to her, despite the fact that his existence caused her immense pain, but so what?

It does not change the fact that he got her family killed... and yes there is a reasonably logical progression that lead to that, and his intentions were not completely evil, but still... had CS been in the same situation, I bet things would have turned out radically different.

CM made a completely rational decision: he chose his interests over hers and just went with the princess' suggestion... no attempt to take responsibility for the mess he'd made or to find a solution that did not require sacrificing a whole bunch of innocent people just so. His life and his men's were more important than hers and her people's. Period. A love that can be measured on such scales is no love at all.

 Not to mention his utter lack of understanding of her character. Right down to their very last interaction. Even is MW no longer detests him, there's no way she'd settle for someone like him. Not after she's had a taste of the real deal with CS.

 

Also: CS is 100% on her side and always does the right thing. This will always win against CM's flexible ethics and selfishness.

 

I have never been swayed by CM since the reveal of the betrayal because it still does not explain why he married the princess in the first place. The conflict CM had to go through was not shown so people might not be able to fully understand or relate to the reason why he had to do the things he did. In my opinion, his character was not written well or maybe he was really meant to be self-serving and a coward.

 

I did not like the idea that MW had to send him off to the afterlife as well, I mean really??? He messed up big time and MW still needs to escort him back? But I love the idea that she had to stop because when she was about to lose her memory about CS, she needed to turn back. This i another test, IMHO.

 

The only thing that can justify CM’s betrayal is if everything had to happen for a reason. I am hoping that when they reveal why CS was chosen by Ma Go, they will reveal that he is a descendant of CM and CM had to spare her because CS is her soulmate. CM had to choose his family so that CS will be born. She had to be spared in order for her to meet CS who she’s meant to be with :)

 

 

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Wow, now, it's only two more episodes to go. But I'm glad at how things are panning out. Crossed fingers, it appears we are looking forward to a happy ending. Man-wol promised to keep Chan-seung in her memory to the best of her ability. And more importantly, the last remaining vestige of the Moon Tree remains within Chan-seung. She will be back! And when that happens, I hope we get to witness even just a glimpse of some sensual romantic scenes!

 

Kidding aside, I hope all of you had fun watching the most recent episode. Even if I don't get to participate or contribute much in here, I just want to say that I feel happy and honoured to be in your midst. Thanks again for making my K-drama experience worthwhile. 

 

Btw, kudos to the actors involved in such stirring scenes for their powerful acting. Lee Do-hyun's Chung-myung was memorably acted. Unfortunately, I'm not into K-pop and I haven't seen My Mister yet besides failing to finish Ryeo, but through this drama, IU grew on me. She gained a new fan in me. I loved the scenes when she met Chung-myung in Chan-seung's body in which she is in profound disbelief as she struggled to absorb the facts and defend herself against the larger implications, and when the confused her imagined killing Chan-seung, so visceral and compelling. And lastly, applause to Yeo Jin-goo for his tender acting. You can't help not to cry with him as he felt pangs of longing and loneliness because of Man-wol's departure. 

 

See you next week-end! :heart:

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Stuff after watching subs:

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- Harvard con artist strikes again! Annoying serial killer never won against him before or after death. :P

 

- Here's to the poor, awkward third-wheelers when Chansung comes in and starts to have an intense conversation with Man Wol (Grim Reaper at the serial killer bar, Dark Mago at the tree) :lol:


- There's just something so lovable about Mira. I like how she was so pleased to have been invited to the hotel again and was showing off to her colleague. I even like Princess Song Hwa. 

 

- Smirkalot is a floof. He just went with what people told him to do. I mean, his situation was dire, but it wasn't a good look, how people were just telling him what to do and he just seemed so lost.

 

- Petal router hahaha @Ellander88


- I didn't feel all that good with how Mago broke Man Wol by feeding her fake news (OK, it wasn't exactly that but they led her on). There's something so terrible about that scene with Dark Mago at the tree, when she was so broken and just wanted to die. On one hand, it kind of makes sense that she had to hit rock bottom before the turnaround, but something about it all just didn't sit right with me. :(

 

Bonus: Yeo Jin Goo vs. bus stops: a series :tears:

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The writers seem to love parallelism. The scene at the tunnel where CS grabs MW's hand and asks her if she's coming back and she responds with "wait for me" is almost exactly like the one she had in the past under the tree (Ep 8) with Yeon Wol where she touches his arm and says the exact same thing. In the past, YW was the one one who loved her the most and in the current, it is CS.  But she couldn't save YW in the past.  Since "MW, protect me" seems to be a theme, I wonder if CS is going to be in danger again (from the fake "brother" imitating the bellboy?), but this time MW will make it in time to save him.  

 

My second theory is that if it took her 1 month to get to that point on the bridge, it should also take her 1 month to get back.  It looked like CS at the bus stop, after seeing the tree, may have come to the conclusion that she wasn't coming back.  MW told him not to be like be pitiful like Sanchez so it's possible MW might arrive to the hotel to find out he took the ghost potion thing to help him move on and left to work at a real hotel in that 1 month time span.  Maybe Sanchez even tries to set him up on a blind date and she walks in on it, haha.  And she faces the internal struggle of dragging him back into her world.

 

I mean, they've wrapped up most of the issues already and there's two whole episodes left, which means at least 1 big cliffhanger / misunderstanding left in episode 15.  I wonder what it will be though.  Can't wait for the text preview to be released to get us through the next few days!

 

Wow, this drama is so good I actually created an account to post something. 

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