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[Drama 2018-2019] Empress Dignity / The Last Empress, 황후의 품격

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Wow. Whoever else was disturbed by the scene of the queen dowager trying to seduce the young guy (reminding me of a lot of instances in real life where poor kids getting scholarship are taken advantage of people in power sponsoring/donating them and because they need the money, they endure it and do not report it because they fear it’ll revoke their scholarship, into of all the other trauma and pain it comes with). But what a turn of the tables that it’s an elder woman towards a younger boy that honestly seems like the same age as her youngest son. Maybe this also explains her obsession with staying young, ritual breast milk bath, and a hint to her secret in the island (didn’t also Sh empress find out the secret and was killed before she could expose it??).

 

Then there was also the perturbing scene of YR’s torture. You can see the downfall in her character by how she behaves with the emperor, beginning him desperately with no longer an ounce of pride within her. But her cunningness still remains that she wants to strike a deal with him and she follows WB when he finds the body. I don’t think this will set back WB in his plans because I think he wanted her to find out one way or another, and this may not be what he initially planned, but I believe he’ll be able to work around it. Even if she tells the emperor he’s WS, he will think it’s nonsense cause he spoke to ‘WS’ in front WB during that phone call.

 

was the other guy in the mental hospital SH’s bodyguard??

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The emperor's reaction is similar to that of the lead in Avenger's Social Club and more notably of Tamaki Suoh of Ouran High School Host Club. Such fascination with instant coffee. Meanwhile, I'm sipping free Nescafe from our office pantry vendo machine. 

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4 hours ago, juju84 said:

Yes, that's true! It was a very special little moment between them. Please writer-nim keep it up! My poor heart feels a little pacified)

But you would be laughing, chingue. My heart starts fluttering at LH's vulnerability.  These little moments at the end of the episode has left even bigger impression. What a bad fate binds him and Sunni. If only things could have been different, if only...

I wonder is there at least a little chance for him to realize his sins and sincerely feel remorse? That would have been the gratest victory of hers if Sunni would be able to reach out his conscience and remnants of his sanity if by chance there are still any left. Not just punish LH but make him understand.

Seriously though I know what a rotten person LH is but I feel pain and sadness. Another victim of his parents, another ruined life. This is just too sad.

This whole episode had a lot of good meaningful scenes and some new revelations: WS and Sunni, Sunni and princess Ari and ofc Sunni and LH.

 

 

p.s. I'm catching up on the posts and I would like to say, guys the writer doesn't try to make LH lovable. Rather she tries to explain why he turned out to be the way he is now. It's not redeeming of him but it's also much more deeper than simply dividing everything into black & white. No one is born evil.

And I guess that's what the writer tries to show. That even love can create a monster if it's twisted.

Nah he just evil. People in life go though all type of hardships they dont turn into monsters like him.

 

How do you wake  up day and say " I want to kill my wife, and burn my mistress in a car as well, oh and torture her"

 

 Looks at WB he turn his anger towards righteousness  while still trying to save everyone around him even evil people.

 

The withers trying to make me feel sympathy I dont at all  he to far gone for me to feel that way.

 

 

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The "whose the killer" contest is neck and neck with Empress Dowager and the Nanny. The nanny has a lot to lose because if the emperor is found to be a killer throughout the entire investigation that Grandma was conducting; the entire monarch would fall and she still would be left with nothing. I still believe that there should be another DNA test.

 

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Nanny got dissed and now she is pissed...Her being there seeing everyone makes her the "IT" girl. I believe that empress with soften, just a little towards the emperor. He will tell her about his story and childhood that will shake her just a bit, but when she finds out that he receives the blood transfusion that was meant for her mother...He will be super toast. I believe that NWS allowed MYR to endure more torture because she was still trying to find a way to kill him to save her own behind. I am glad that empress is trying to correct Ari; she needs a steady mother that will teach her right from wrong. Ari's prefrontal cortex is still developing and this is the perfect time for intervention. 

 

Empress dowager is a sociopath Jezebel that is power hungry. Instead of control her husband [Ahab] that has already died, she want complete control over her son. Had this been about 500 years ago when Empresses and consorts killed their enemies and children that threatened their-defacto rule, she might have gotten away with it, but now she will have to navigate her waters more carefully in 2019.

 

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In DRAMA

[The Last Empress] Eps 27 & 28 spoilers, Jang Na Ra x Choi Jin Hyuk x Shin Sung Rok

Article: Naver 'The Last Empress' Shin Sung Rok hugs Jang Na Ra, their ill-fated past revealed 


1. [+882,-7]
Looking at it now, it seems like the nanny killed the grandmother. 

2. [+836,-16]
I'm crazy.... My heart fluttered for the KakaoTalk Dog. 


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The story is insane, really. ㅋㅋㅋ Viewers are naturally accepting that Lee Hyuk has fallen for the Empress. ㅋㅋㅋ Oh Ssu Ni's mother's story.. Sun Ok Kim, you...... ㄷㄷ


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Ha.. damn. I'm enlisting next week but this drama is too interesting. How am I going to endure it? 


5. [+145,-3]
Now Min Yoo Ra has found out about it. This is exactly what Cheon Woo Bin wanted. Things are going so smoothly. 


6. [+143,-4]
Oh Ssu Ni's and the King's character may not be easy. But the Empress Dowager role must be really difficult too. Shin Eun Kyung's acting is really good.. 


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To think my heart fluttered for the KakaoTalk Dog.. He's really cute. 


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I just realized that Shin Sung Rok is so cool today...... The chemistry between Lee Hyuk and Oh Ssu Ni is seriously.. ㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠ Wow, my heart fluttered so much. The ending is insane. 


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Jang Na Ra's mother could survive if she had received the blood, she died because it was given to Shin Sung Rok instead. This is the difference between people who are privileged and underprivileged. It's sad. Anyway, when they find out about that, I think Jang Na Ra won't let Shin Sung Rok and Shin Eun Kyung off. 



 
 
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Article: Naver 'The Last Empress' Shin Sung Rok orders Lee Elijah to make false testimony... the truth is still in a mystery 

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I think I'm getting a rough idea of it... The culprit who killed the Empress Dowager isn't any of the three suspects, the Empress, King and Min Yoo Ra... But Princess Ah Ri's mother, the nanny (Yoon So Yi)... And the man locked up in the mental hospital... is the dead Empress So Hyun's bodyguard. 


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The nanny is worse than Min Yoo Ra and the Empress Dowager.. She's more cunning than Miss Lee [t/n: from drama "Unni is Alive", Yang Jung Ah's role.]


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This isn't right... But I'm hoping that the King and Empress fall for each other.. 


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Yang Dal Hee ㅋㅋㅋㅋ I burst out laughing. ㅋㅋㅋㅋ
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Who is Yang Dal Hee? 
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Da Som's role in 'Unnie is Alive', she's a villain. 


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Shin Sung Rok is so funny. ㅋㅋㅋㅋ


6. [+161,-3]
What is this? I'm starting to like Lee Hyuk. ㅋㅋㅋㅋ His charisma is exploding. ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ


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Huk~ The last scene was too sudden, that's not right. But I like it. 


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He took the mix coffee sachets and said, "I'm getting lost now."  ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ In the middle of all that, he hugged the sachets really preciously. ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ 


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The drama is a little sloppy. They talk about their secrets loudly and no one hears it... and Min Yoo Ra appearing out of nowhere. I turned off the tv when Na Wang Shik found his mother's body and Min Yoo Ra saw it from behind. 


10. [+130,-7]
I guess I'm crazy. I want to see Lee Hyuk and Lee Ssu Ni date. ㅋㅋ

https://melohwa.blogspot.com/2019/01/the-last-empress-eps-27-28-spoilers.html

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1 hour ago, jeijei said:

The emperor's reaction is similar to that of the lead in Avenger's Social Club and more notably of Tamaki Suoh of Ouran High School Host Club. Such fascination with instant coffee. Meanwhile, I'm sipping free Nescafe from our office pantry vendo machine.  

 

I think it's called PPL. :) 

 

I think people drink the instant mix coffee for the convenience and the sweetness since so many of those packets in Korea contain sugar and creamer in with the instant coffee rather than for the actual coffee. However, instant coffee seems to be really big business in Korea, so I seem to see it frequently in PPLs

 

I haven't watched this week's episodes yet, but it seems this drama is becoming more and more makjang? Anyway, I don't want NWS to die. He's had such a hard life already. I still want him and SN to get together, raise DS and AR, and be happy, but that may be too normal for where this drama is going.

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- When CWB and Sunny rescued the maid...It doesn´t looks like he actually killed them but knocked them unconcious....meaning they would have seen his face. 

 

- Sunny should have gone to the police with her evidence....why was it important for her to clear her name in front of the imperial family instead of the public. Hasn´t she learned from the past that those people are capable of anything and she should be careful? 

 

- When she was doing the live stream to reveal her innocent...how did she tought that a phone conversation was going to convince the public that she is innocent? just like some one said in the comment how would you know that he person on the phone is legit and what they are saying is the truth?....For something so important shouldn´t she have checked her phone to make sure that it´s the right person before answering? Also the moment she noticed that it wasn´t the right person she should haven ended the call.

 

Nonetheless I´m still enjoying this drama with all it´s craziness. I´m looking forward to see what Sunny is going to do with the revelation that the emperor is starting to like her. Somehow I don´t think that CWB identity would be revealed that soon...I´m sure he will find a way to get out of it. 

 

CWB and Sunny now got something in common both their mothers death is directly linked to LH. Even tho in Sunny´s case it wasn´t his fault.

 

That hug at the end of today´s episode make me wish to see both of them in another drama as the lead couple. 

 

 

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1 hour ago, sonequeen01 said:

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Ha.. damn. I'm enlisting next week but this drama is too interesting. How am I going to endure it? 

This is just too funny... and sad :lol:

Lesson learned ~ never start a drama that you know you cannot finish watching till the end....

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@stroppyse, it's definitely PPL, like in Avengers, and it's funny. Those three characters have one thing in common: they're awfully rich. You wouldn't see them drink instant, so their fascination is a comedy to ordinary people, yet it's a sincere reaction from them. 

(I know one slightly rich drama character who prefers instant coffee (in a jar) just because he can measure it precisely and thus make the same-tasting coffee every time.)

 

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*Finally watches ep. 14* Ah, finally subs so things can be put into context! All my thoughts are a jumble mess of crazy in no particular order XD 

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*Heart flutters at all the little Woo Bin/Sunny interactions* Aww their love is a slow burn...but hopefully something accelerates next week with the pacing of this show. XD Then again...I am not holding my breath to see much of anything happen but this show has a tendency to surprise me so we'll see.

 

*Sunny disciplining Ari* I live for this! Can Sunny just adopt her at the end? Please? Writer? PLEASE?! This drama is about to be an even more hot mess and I swear it can only end with a bang, I don't even care at this point if WB and Sunny don't end up together (as long as WB doesn't like DIE, like I don't want flashbacks to Gumiho family books okay thx) But can Sunny whisk Ari far away from that place? I want to see more of Ari bonding with Sunny, ah it's so adorable! 

 

Everybody agrees that Ari needs some Sunny in her life but I also think Sunny needs Ari as an anchor too, the child is the only innocent thing in that palace that has a chance of not being completely tainted. 

 

I'm still not %100 sold on Ari being LH's biological child...something like double and triple checking something significant like this, isn't an oversight I can see the ED making. This woman doesn't trust anyone but herself...so, Ari could still be his real child but if she's not than I'll have to wonder why ED went along with it? That whole scene of her forcing the Nanny to take that infertility drug has me questioning Ari's parentage, that and I don't trust that Nanny to not lie to see herself ascend as Empress.

 

Which if the title of this show is actually literal...will be never!

 

*Princess So Jin unintentionally spilling the tea* Poor dear, I know you want to have some faith in believing your mother isn't a monster but...your mother is a straight monster. And yes, she does intend to use you as a scapegoat in the likely chance that money under your name dear is indeed a slush fund.

 

*Lee Hyuk conflicted over Woo Bin and Sunny*...You...really are purposely being the 3rd wheel nobody wants! LMAO, writernim, stop making my crazy theories correct XD

 And lmao, nice save their emperor trying to pretend you didn't claim Sunny as yours...You seem to love bantering with her don't you? WB...no input? Just going to sit there feeling real awkward...okay...

 

*Empress Dowager realizing Lee Hyuk's growing attraction towards Sunny* Your son is about to fang dangle stuff up!! Prepare yourself! If your smart, you'll leave Sunny alone...but..........................your bright idea to over work Sunny in official functions is going to backfire so hard on you. I can't wait. Who wants to bet if we get a scene of Sunny nearly passing out, it won't be WB this time to the rescue but LH because anything to make ED scream 'Secretary Choi!!' in frustration, gives me life!

I'm also betting LH is going to end up spilling the tea on the true will Grandmama left behind for 3 reasons. 1. To richard simmons off mother dearest, 2 to keep his position and 3. He doesn't want to lose Sunny

 

*So Hyun's bodyguard* What secrets lie in that head of yours mister? What is the real tea between you and So Hyun 7yrs ago. 

 

*Nanny failing to stay relevant* Me thinks we've found the killer your honor, both for Empress and Grandmama.  The verdict's still out but the usual suspects seem cleared...for now

 

*Sunny and Geum Mo* ...aww, I'm teary eyed. 

 

*Wang Shik finding his mother* I'm sad...this makes me sad...ugh...he needs a hug...ugh, it's okay baby...you'll make them pay! 

 

*Yoon and Hello* These two...I love these two, these two need protection. They also don't mess around XD. But Prince, you DO have to tell them at some point about who you really are. Yeah, that convo isn't going to be great but better now than later. 

 

*LH coming to Sunny's rescue on the live broadcast*...See...if you weren't such an douchesnozzle you guys would make the cutest couple ever! Also, I'm worried for Sunny...I'm surprised he actually listened to her and left after taking the instant coffee...then again, I did say LH has the incredible knack for deluding himself into believing what he wants...Guy is probably legit thinking: if Sunny easily forgave WB for my order to kill her, she'll totally come around and do the same for me...she just has to, she's mine wife. *sighs* Pitiful nutcase probably thinks Sunny is playing cat and mouse with him. It's comedic as well as sad that he just doesn't see it or refuses to see it. Or that he really can't comprehend that, no, normal women don't want to be with a man that tried to kill them multiple times on top of all the other crap you pulled...so...

 

*Min Yu Ra* Soo...wth do we do with you? Are you going crazy? Are you gonna try to stop WB(WS)? You interest me. I literally have nothing here *shrugs* I'm content right now with seeing her suffer so *shrugs* I got nothing

 

*The ill fate between LH and Sunny*...wow...just...wow...

 

*That ending though*...Well...that accelerated quick! :hushed: And here I thought they were gonna drag the whole LH coming to the realization that he's crushing on Sunny towards the end...In fact, it seems like our nutcase is on a mission to keep his Empress by his side BEFORE something can truly develop between WB and SN. 

 

Feeling a bit threatened there your Majesty? 

 

I have to give him credit though: He's being assertive with going after what he wants, even if she doesn't. Come hell or high water. All we need now is him threatening pain and death on anyone who hurts Sunny's feelings and we will truly have a Yandere on our hands. 

 

God, have I said how worried I am for Sunny? Because if I haven't...Yea...I'm hella worried for Sunny. She's alone in her bedroom with an unhinged man...who is drunk. A man she told to get out of her room and yet here he is, having her captured in his arms. 

 

I'm sure nothing will come out of this other than LH unwilling to let go of Sunny because he wants solace and because it's a drama and I want to hope the show doesn't try to push it's limits in that direction but...yeah...it was just a few episodes ago, he barged into the Nanny's chambers on the death anniversary of SH.....He's unpredictable in that anything could set him off....Sunny has a tendency to say things that can set him off...and Woo Bin is nowhere in sight...WHY WOULD YOU END AN EPISODE LIKE THIS?! YOU KNEW DARN WELL WHAT YOU DID WRITER!!

 

Great, a whole week of wondering and hoping this doesn't go where it looks like it's going.

 

 

 

 

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Ratings 

Nielsen Korea

Seoul: 16.9 %

Nationwide: 16%

 

I´m so salty that the second couple already got two kiss scenes and the lead couple still got nothing :bawling:

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53 minutes ago, jbeanie1709 said:

I have not watched last night’s episode yet.. did WS find his moms body?:tears:

We're not sure if what he found is really his mother's body or just a lie by MYR...

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The writer made a clever 180 degree with this week’s  ending scene from the last week.  The last week was about Sunny and WB. This week, it was Sunny and LH with which the writer again succeeded in drawing a lot of viewers.  

But I felt the hug between Sunny and LH permeated a lot of unpleasantries.

Sunny seemed to awaken from her mom’s sad death which was caused by ED who tried to save LH for her own greedy motive.  
LH awoke from a nightmare either from NWS (who is coming after him) , his first wife (whom he killed in a fit of jealousy and who torments him ) or GED ( whom he didn’t actually kill but did plunge down ED’s hairpin)   Maybe the death of GED didn’t give him any nightmares since he has no qualms about killing or torturing others. 

He has a warped view of the power of emperor: People are there to serve him and not the other way around.  I saw the character like that, an emperor in saguk  but in a modern day setting, it feels scary to see an emperor character like LH acting twistedly psychotic. 

LH was good to YR earlier. He was taken in instantly when YR declared she would die for him.  He became very sincere and was ready to introduce YR to his family and marry her. But when he found she deceived him, he was ready to burn her alive. 

LH acted the same way with SH empress.  When he thought she had an affair with the guard, he flipped and choked her. 

He knew how to charm Sunny, when he needed her. His treatment for her changed depending on the given circumstances.   
 LH is just like his mom, ED except that he has no brain to scheme which ED does so well.   I wonder if it’s WB who gave the idea to LH to frame ED for the murder of GED by helping out Sunny so that LH can have power all by himself.   It’s clear WB is trying  to get LH and ED to fight each other.  
PS  That former guard, Kang Ju Seung, has been kept in that psychiatric ward where YR is.  I wonder it’s LH who kept the guard to punish him.  :tears::sweatingbullets:

 

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Finally saw the two episodes, after allowing myself to be spoiled by others (and being very thankful for those who provide updates, invigorating discussion, and inputs...I love spoilers :) ). 

 

Let me tackle some relationships in this post...mostly LH and YR and then Sunny with LH. 

1. LH and Yura: From what have shown from now, now I know why LH liked YR so much. He wanted 1. utter devotion and 2. a pawn to help him defy his mother. He never cared for Yura, but he selected her because she was a thorn to his mother's side. The more his mother tried to push Yura away from him, the more he wanted to stay with her. That's why when she had started to lose her usage, he was willing to cast her away. He never treated YR with the same affection he treated his first wife...hence, he never placed a strong feeling on her. 

 

2. As for Sunny, he never thought much about her. He thought she is dumb, low class, and a gold digger. Only when she starts to stand up to him did he start to see her in a new light. However, he still thought she is like the people around him...a fake. A person who would use others to get what he/she wants...someone like him but lower class. Unbeknownst to him, Sunny had started to show him what he saw was wrong. 

 

LH doesn't believe in woman....he once did when he married his queen, but the manipulation by the nanny and his mother caused him to lose that belief. Even in the most recent episodes, it shows how easily LH--although he wants to believe he is gaining his freedom--becomes puppet under his mother's word  (he almost killed his grandmother because his mother provoked him and would have worked if grandmother was under the blanket). His mother was right; LH was her puppet...and it goes to show how she had psychologically abused him to the point where she could easily manipulate his weakness. 

 

But as for Sunny, he's starting to see a person who is genuine. Since she came back from into this contracted marriage, he started to spend more time with her, hence he started to understand her better. He could see that Sunny's feeling toward Ari was real (hence his angry reaction to the nanny's accusation and his words toward her...) and that's why he smiled unnaturally. He's started to be concern about Sunny...whether he liked it or not. He was aware of Sunny's unhappiness when his mother started to degrade Sunny's upbringing and that caused him to feel uncomfortable as well. And he knew that Sunny was not his property, hence he couldn't control her even if he wanted to. 

 

He's attracted to Sunny (because CWB attention to her, and LH's competitive nature would want to get the same attention...hence CWB's meaning of Sunny gaining his favor), yet he wants to use her to topple his mother (that's why he saved her from the video feed). He still has some bias about her and was surprised to see that Sunny really treasured the simple painting that was left for her from grandma. Sunny is the most genuine person he knows as of now, and a person who sees him as an equal...not the king. Her disgust for him is written on her face...he doesn't have to second guess her feelings toward him, and for him, and Sunny would say things to him as it is, unafraid to offend him...unafraid to point out why she hated him (calling him crazy for thinking she would like to be friend with someone who attempted to kill her). As I said before, just as Sunny is opening Ari's world...she will start to open LH's world. 

 

And can I say that...wow...ED is not winning any mother award anytime soon. 

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Hello,

I am new to this thread

 

I have been watching this drama but not participating in anything. I am really curious about that piece of paper that was in Grandma's room.

 

The Emperor saw it, the nanny saw it and Yura saw it as well - does anyone know what is written on that paper?

her will? or something?

 

also its nice to see some familiar faces here ! @ktcjdrama @stroppyse @dramaninja

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