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I'm a little confused: do we get episodes 6-8 or 6-7 this week? 

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4 hours ago, triplem said:

I was half an hour late watching the live and it was a very interrupted watch . . But from what I gather sans the subs was that HJ walked into some trap that was set up by the gangster & she pretty much went against what Jenny had told her not to do . I think it was related to her mum. Long story short , SW went to save her but was cornered , so Jenny went instead to negotiate for her release before SW joined them . They managed to free her . But later on Jenny was really mad at Hj for making this mess and slapped her . SW was clearly uncomfortable but he’s too loyal to Jenny to speak up ..later there were flashbacks to why he’s so loyal to her . She really protected him a lot when he was young . So he’s deeply indebted. 

Thanks for your live recap. It kinda of made me upset that they made HJ character kinda stupid in this episode. What happened to the girl who proclaimed that she never lost? 

 

HAHAHA so Jenny was HJ silver knight and rescue her in this episode. Let's form a new ship Jenny X HJ LOL

 

Now thinking about it...what's the point of the character HJ, her mom, and the prostitute and her son? How does it really relate to Jenny's revenge? Was the character HJ created just so that Sun Woo can have a love interest or made just to have the typical korean love triangle? If HJ arc in the this show wasn't created, it really wouldn't have made much of a difference to the drama lol 

 

 

2 hours ago, tulip06 said:

I'm a little confused: do we get episodes 6-8 or 6-7 this week? 

isn't it episode 7 & 8? 

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wah... from the preview of the next episode it look like there are moments for SW&HJ shipper....

 

Havent had time to watch the sub ep but when JJ slap HJ n SW was watching it. It was intense. Wish I can understand what HJ said after the slap to make J so shaken

 

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It was revealed that OTS is SuBin's bio dad. I'm sure Prosecutor Cha knows this too. I was confident even before the revealed that JJ went to the TV show well prepared lol. 

@elan1 HJ is naive she has a lot to learn and the slap was part of her learning process. I can't say that she didn't deserve it. I agree with JJ when she said 'when you lose a game of go you can always play another game but in real life there will be no second chances'. @fieza1871 HJ just said thank you to JJ for saving her. I think it hurt JJ more for slapping HJ. We can understand this by that flashback when JJ was beaten by the bathhouse owner.

It kinda of pissed me off when HJ went to the rescue the housekeeper. It was just like how she acted with the doctor in earlier episode. The JogWang VP would not be able to hurt the housekeeper since JJ has already revealed it to the public. He and mayor Do are only using the thug to get rid of HJ.

 

 

 

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Kim Jae Young... he was just one those cops in one of my favorite drama called "I Remember You". I also watch him in "Master of God.. noodles" something like tha.. aka  "Master of Revenge". Dind't think much of him. He was just one the cast/orpha character. But Perseverance and hard work and love for craft pays off. It's good to see him getting reconize and getting lead roles.

 

 

 Didn't think much of her when I saw in another tvN drama called "Live" then saw her  "Hundred Million Stars From The Sky" good acting. Great to see actors given a chane to shine  and show their skills. Hope she can part of the new drama "Live" writer is doing.

 

 

 

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I just finished watching episode 7 and boy did it made me so mad at Hyun Ji.

 

The beginning of episode 7 made me teared up, Jh listened to the voice mail from Jenny. Jenny apologizes for telling him to forget his lover and that she understands if he doesn’t come back. Jh sobbed and bawled in his single person bed(made me wonder why his lover wasn’t there). I cried with him. Also later on in the episode when he said, “he would do anything for her...” I bawled. 
 

So apparently Hyun Ji mom is still alive. It’s proven because the HJ mom lady friend got a secret “friendship phone calling code.” So yippie on that good news!

 

Hyun Ji went to Jenny requesting her to help her find her mom. Jenny said I will as long as I’m still alive and in the game and I need your help to stay relevant. 
 

Ye Nam husband is scum, it seemed like he also had a thing for Jenny in the past but what’s the point of revealing that right now? Jenny called him out on it. 
 

JH asked his mom to stand behind Jenny during the investigation of her allegedly playing a part in the murder of the CEO of Jowang. She declines saying that DEO will not gain anything from supporting Jenny and she doesn’t need Jenny to obtain the international city project. JH tried to appeal to her morals but what is he kidding, it will be easier for him to capture the moon then getting his mom to do the right thing lol *later on in the episode the mom realized she will prob need Jenny after all after witnessing the mayor in cahoots with the Vice President of Jowang. 

 

Sunwoo & Hyun Ji was able to find the housekeeper that switch the medication of the ex-wife of the CEO of Jowang (which made her crazy and delusional) and successfully convinced her to allow them to record her revealing her deeds and who commanded her to do. Hyun Ji allayed the housekeeper fears and told her that they will protect her and her daughter and not let anyone know she had a role in this (it kind of made me upset already because the housekeeper abetted the murder by switching the medications, even if she didn’t know that the ex-wife was going to commit murder, it’s still bad, very bad)

 

Hyun Ji went to Jenny and didn’t handover the usb drive with the confession of the housekeeper until she promised that she will also protect the housekeeper. And try to guilt trip her by saying that she trust her because she  kept her word so far. (Which infuriated me because they already had a verbal agreement and now HJ added another condition...instead of adding a stipulation she could had just appealed to Jenny to help the housekeeper and she probably would had done so, Jenny acts cold but she’s like spring on the inside. Also the housekeeper deserve punishment for her involvement. Switching meds could had killed the ex-ceo wife let alone other things).

 

sunwoo made a huge point to Hyun ji in the car. Jenny doesn’t have friends that why she doesn’t have much weaknesses but Hyun Ji is her biggest obstacle... Jenny is warming up to HJ. And that makes her a liability. 
 

jenny went on a talk show with Ye Nam, Ye Nam wanted to used that opportunity to obtain Hyun Ji by threatening to reveal JH secret to the world (you crazy scum bucket, that’s your brother) but of course Jenny is one step up and got YE Nam husband to get rid of the photos by threatening him in regards of his daughter. He said how dared you use a child, and Jenny responded just like you wanting to protect your daughter, I too have someone I want to protect. Awwwwew

 She protected JH again. Their friendship goals. 
 

HJ gets a phone call from the housekeeper...Sunwoo tried to stop her from seeing her. Obviously it was a trap. Sunwoo tried to saved her but was cornered by some henchmen. Jenny went by herself and negotiated with the thug leader. She convinced him that it’s best not to take options off the table, esp the Jenny option because out of all the options, she’s the most reliable partner and most unlikely to abandon her allies, exhibit A: Hyun Ji. She successfully convinced thug leader to keep HJ alive and made a big trade-off for HJ. She gave up the video that would prove her innocence and would had reveal the real culprit. 
 

Jenny slapped HJ and said does it hurt? You have to be alive for you to feel the pain. in the “Korean game I forgot what it’s called at the moment,” if you lose, you can play again. But this is real life, you don’t get another chance. HJ expressed her gratitude by saying “thank you.”

 

It triggered a flashback when Jenny and Sunwoo reunited as youths at the bathhouse that Jenny works at. Jenny got beaten up by a maid Because she fed and took care of him : ( 

 

Sunwoo is very observant, while driving Jenny home, he warns her not to see herself in Hyun ji because it will put her in more danger, in other words, she will keep bailing hj out in potential future predicaments. 

the episode ends with her going home and crying in the bathtub, like crying crying. It’s the first time we see Jenny in this state since she was a youth. : (((( 
 

Although Her revenge plan faced a setback, we know Jenny doesn’t give up! Can’t wait for tomorrow episode. After typing this post, most of my anger towards Hyun Ji dissipated hahaha time to go to the gym. 

 

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BTS 

Stills -
very curious what will be negotiated here 

I appreciate the development arc in the relationship between these two women.  

 

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2 hours ago, fieza1871 said:

I guess there is no ep for tonight as I saw the live telecast of the baseball game

Yup , I was so sad  especially because I was looking forward to what the preview showed us . 
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In defence of HJ , I don’t blame her for reacting the way she did - was it smart ? No . But it was the right thing to do at least from the perspective of someone who wanted to keep her word. HJ will learn that in this  high stakes game , she’d need to stop reacting emotionally & to learn to see the big picture. I think it’s likely the reason she did not make it to the professional league because she was governed by her feelings. I believe Jenny empathises with HJ because she was once like that . But over the years , she’s become hardened by the need to stop caring in order to survive and outsmart her foes . What I like though about HJ is that she  knew she was wrong & I think she will learn quickly . 
 

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Urgh... no ep8 because of baseball broadcast... arghhhh...

 

Tsk tsk tsk.. ye nam had a child with that killer police officer.. sigh, ah well...

 

Hj still looks young to me... sigh,

 

Sun woo and JJ fighting...hehhe

 

Anyways is JH'S BOYFRIEND going to kill himself because JH went bk to the family??? Sigh.. 

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2 hours ago, triplem said:

In defence of HJ , I don’t blame her for reacting the way she did - was it smart ? No . But it was the right thing to do at least from the perspective of someone who wanted to keep her word. HJ will learn that in this  high stakes game , she’d need to stop reacting emotionally & to learn to see the big picture. I think it’s likely the reason she did not make it to the professional league because she was governed by her feelings. I believe Jenny empathises with HJ because she was once like that . But over the years , she’s become hardened by the need to stop caring in order to survive and outsmart her foes . What I like though about HJ is that she  knew she was wrong & I think she will learn quickly . 

 

Definitely Jenny does empathize with HJ and Sunwoo even pointed it out to Jenny. There's nothing wrong with reacting to emotions as long as you combine it with logic. Jenny protected her people with that combination.

 

I agree HJ wanted to keep her word to the housekeeper which is a good thing and it is good to protect the safety of the housekeeper. But the housekeeper deserved punishment for her crime. And HJ she didn't keep her word with Jenny. The deal was that Jenny will help her find her mom if she helps her prove her innocence. Hj added another condition (not keeping your word). Once again she could had pleaded Jenny to help the housekeeper without holding the usb hostage. Hj was willing to gamble and let an innocent person, Jenny to take the fall to protect someone who committed a crime??? what kind of logic is that? 

*and the thing is that Jenny didn't really need HJ assistance...she is resourceful, she could had found other ways. Most likely she said it to show to HJ that she isn't soft when offering to help her find her mom.

 

"What I like though about HJ is that she  knew she was wrong & I think she will learn quickly ." 

She knew she was wrong to fall in the trap but she wasn't aware of the wrongs she committed against Jenny. She thanked Jenny for saving her but she didn't apologize for the problems she caused to Jenny. Jenny life was also in danger by directly confronting the thug leader. Anything could had happened.

 

 

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no wonder... I kept refreshing and refreshing for the sub episodes  :(

 

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I am sorry that we did not have two episodes to watch this week.

 

My thoughts.

 

Jenny became emotional this episode and could not keep inside her feelings anymore. She always had a good heart but she had to close up to go forward with her plan. Just like Sun Woo said, the moment she starts seeing herself in Hyun Ji and starts to care for her, she became more vulnerable/ will show her vulnerabilities to others. She accumulated a lot of tension. JJ is strong but she is not made from iron. No wonder she went home and cried in the bathroom. She needed that moment. It is good to let your emotion get out sometimes. I liked what the writer is doing with her character.

 

Sun Woo knows Jenny so well. I liked when he realised right away how she is feeling.

The bathhouse scene was so sad.  She was hit by the bathhouse owner but she was thankful that she was not kicked out from the house. Now we know how Sun Woo and Jenny met after she left the orphanage.

 

About Hyun ji. It is the second time she is doing something stupid. The first time (when she left with the doctor) I understood, now I start to lose my patience with her. I understand she is young and impulsive. I understand her need to keep her words, to want to protect others when they are in danger but she should have known by now who is dealing with. She should have wait and have a better plan. Jenny is right. If you lose a game of Go you can try next time, but in real life you could not have another chance. It is her choice to make mistakes but I hope next time she will take responsability for her actions and not have others sacrifice themself / put themself to danger to save her. I hope she learned her lessons. The drama is showing Jenny as Hyun Ji`s mentor. I hope they continue to show their relationship growing. 

 

In the preview, we saw how Sun woo and Hyun Ji start dating. I am not emotionally invested in Hyun ji`s character or their relationship but I am glad Sun woo is moving on with his life. It is the healthy way to do. He still cares for Jenny but he is taking care of his life in the same time. 

 

 

On 10/10/2019 at 6:42 PM, realistic2280a said:

Anyways is JH'S BOYFRIEND going to kill himself because JH went bk to the family???

Oh... it looks that way but I hope it is not true. The preview can be misleading. 

From what we saw, Jung-Hyeok had a long and deep relationship with his partner. We saw how hard it was from him to decide about Jenny`s sugestion. We saw that Jung Hyeok returned home and decided to break up with his boyfriend/ lover. If that man killed himself, then he was not able to move on from the breakup. It is tragic but I hope Kim Yeo-Ok won`t say that Jenny is to blame for his gesture. (I have to wait for the episode to understand Kim Yeo Ok`s claim).

I rewatched the scene from ep 5 to see if I understood corectly what Jenny said to her husband. It was the same thing.

We saw that Jenny is conflicted. She did not want to make Jung-Hyeok suffer but she needs him too.

 

I am confused about Jung Hyeok and his partner`s situation (the breakup).

Kim Hye Ok said to her son that if he will ruin Deo`s reputation, Jung Hyeok will get kicked out from the family and Jenny will follow him. OMG, he will ruin their reputation just because he is gay? It is hard to chage the norrow minded mentality.

 

So Jenny, asked her husband if he still wants to "beat" Chairwoman and be free and not hide the man he loves. She said: "If you want to beat her and protect your love you have to love me first"

I interpreted her words as, you have to separate for now until we succed with our plan. They have to separate because it is hard to keep the secret hidden anymore and their plan will be jeopardized.

She gave him a choice. To go with his partner or return home and work together to carry out the plan. It was hard but he made a decision. Why commit suicide? The separation would have not been forever. I don`t understand very well the situation. Maybe I am wrong.

 

Another thing. About Jenny and Jung Hyeok posibility of being more than friends....Again, the preview could be misleading.  It`s odd right now (for me) to think the show is going there. 

I like Kim Tae Hoon more than Kim Jae Young as an actor so I like to see Jenny and Jung Hyeok`s relationship more explored. But I will not buy a romantic relationship. Not at this point. The sure thing, for me, watching Jenny and Jung hyeok`s relationship will be more exciting than watching Sun Woo and Hyun ji`s one (or maybe, in a way, SW and JJ too). I am really curious what this show will give us.

About the preview ... Deo`s rival will know that Wi brothers are not blood related with Deo`s family? OMG... a new conflict... the circle tightens again. 

And Jung Hyeok`s father will appear on screen.

 

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4 hours ago, larus said:

Jenny became emotional this episode and could not keep inside her feelings anymore. She always had a good heart but she had to close up to go forward with her plan. Just like Sun Woo said, the moment she starts seeing herself in Hyun Ji and starts to care for her, she became more vulnerable/ will show her vulnerabilities to others. She accumulated a lot of tension. JJ is strong but she is not made from iron. No wonder she went home and cried in the bathroom. She needed that moment. It is good to let your emotion get out sometimes. I liked what the writer is doing with her character.

 

What makes a good revenge story is when the main lead is not a solid rock that is impenetrable. They are cold but their heart can be reheated. They're damaged by they're still salvageable. And it hits me hard because every human has a broken side to themselves and its not impossible to repair or to outgrow tragedies, that's something I try to tell myself frequently. Yes this writer is doing a splendid job so far! A human is complex.

 

4 hours ago, larus said:

The drama is showing Jenny as Hyun Ji`s mentor. I hope they continue to show their relationship growing. 

I hope she can grow too and I  too am getting frustrated. I guess Jenny has the advantage where her entire life has mostly been a tragedy, so she had to grow up faster at a faster pace. She was literally hit left and right and literally discarded as trash on heaps of trash since she was a young girl. 

 

4 hours ago, larus said:

So Jenny, asked her husband if he still wants to "beat" Chairwoman and be free and not hide the man he loves. She said: "If you want to beat her and protect your love you have to love me first"

I interpreted her words as, you have to separate for now until we succed with our plan. They have to separate because it is hard to keep the secret hidden anymore and their plan will be jeopardized.

She gave him a choice. To go with his partner or return home and work together to carry out the plan. It was hard but he made a decision. Why commit suicide? The separation would have not been forever. I don`t understand very well the situation. Maybe I am wrong.

From my interpretation verbally it seems like forever, but I too could be wrong. I don't understand the point of the separation. Maybe it is to protect his lover, or to keep JH focused on the game plan and have a one tract mind and not be distracted? Or maybe it's because she is still pining over JH and gave herself false hope that he will fall in love with her in time.Which is likely not going to happen. From my opinion, she will in time learn to let him go when she truly understands the toll it is taking on him being separated from the person he love. I really hope his lover doesn't successfully harm himself because it's going to make Jenny feel so guilty but on the opposite wavelength it would be good that it happens to shaken Jenny and will incite her to give up on that romantic idea of hers. It's a tragedy, we can't choose who to fall in love with. That's life : (

 

4 hours ago, larus said:

About Jenny and Jung Hyeok posibility of being more than friends....Again, the preview could be misleading.  It`s odd right now (for me) to think the show is going there. 

I highly doubt it's going to happen. If it does, boy is the show going backwards with their homosexual stance. Close-minded people are like it's a phase, and once you find the right woman or man, you will finally settle down and have a regular family. If the show takes that route, they will just encourage the status quo.

 

 

 

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@larus and @elan1, I didn't go back to rewatch recently so I could have understood/remembered wrongly, but I recall my understanding after watching twice, was that there were two conversations involving KYO, though I can't recall which came first.

 

1. With WJH, she was telling him that if she hears anything more about that relationship, the person "beside him" will be destroyed, and by that, I believe she meant the guy and not Jenny.

 

2. With Jenny, she was reminding/warning her that because their marriage was not by her order (not with her blessings nor within her plan), should WJH go down, Jenny will also follow (go down) by relation.

 

So I think Jenny's suggestion is that if WJH wants to beat KYO (in order to be free, or perhaps there are other reasons behind him wanting to beat her but has not been revealed yet), he needs to settle the relationship (at least for now, because if it's not settled, they will all be destroyed together before they can do anything), then come back for them to work together to beat KYO. However, if he decides to just leave quietly with his partner, she will understand, and will still continue to try to beat KYO on her own (for both her and WJH's sake). She is willing to do this much for him.

 

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11 hours ago, elan1 said:

What makes a good revenge story is when the main lead is not a solid rock that is impenetrable. They are cold but their heart can be reheated. They're damaged by they're still salvageable.

 So true. I also like this kind of characters.

 

11 hours ago, elan1 said:

I hope she can grow too and I  too am getting frustrated. I guess Jenny has the advantage where her entire life has mostly been a tragedy, so she had to grow up faster at a faster pace. She was literally hit left and right and literally discarded as trash on heaps of trash since she was a young girl. 

 

Yeah, Jenny was hit with tragedy from a young age.  It is sad how hard her life was after the bus accident moment. Losing both parents, having a baby brother on her care, abandoned at the garbage site, took by a woman but abandoned again after three months. I think the most beatiful moments for her (beside her time with her mother and father), was when she grew up in the orphanage with Sun woo and her brother. But it was hard as well because her brother was sick and eventually died. Jenny has matured quickly.

Hyun Ji annoys me sometimes but in the same time I see potential in her. I like how she is making Ye-Eun squirm. Ye-Nam sees Jenny as her rival and Ye Eun has Hyun Ji. Ye Eun is interested in Sun woo and she senses a real competition, because Hyun ji can be a capable woman.

I see in the preview that Kim Yeo Ok sent Hyun Ji to be her spy, to report everything relating Jenny but I don`t think she will betray her mentor. I hope Hyun  Ji will be a good double agent. :D

 

11 hours ago, elan1 said:

From my interpretation verbally it seems like forever, but I too could be wrong. I don't understand the point of the separation. Maybe it is to protect his lover, or to keep JH focused on the game plan and have a one tract mind and not be distracted? Or maybe it's because she is still pining over JH and gave herself false hope that he will fall in love with her in time.Which is likely not going to happen. From my opinion, she will in time learn to let him go when she truly understands the toll it is taking on him being separated from the person he love. I really hope his lover doesn't successfully harm himself because it's going to make Jenny feel so guilty but on the opposite wavelength it would be good that it happens to shaken Jenny and will incite her to give up on that romantic idea of hers. It's a tragedy, we can't choose who to fall in love with. That's life : (

 

It was not forever because Jenny told Jung hyeok that if it is too painful they could separate. She also said that for him to love freely  and not hide the man he loves they have to beat Kim Yeo Ok first. I understand the separation because Jung Hyeok`s mother threatened that the life of the person next to him will become a hell pit if their secret will become public.  They tried to hide Jung Hyeok`s gay relationship but now that there are people who know his secret, it is a problem for both of them. Jenny does not need another weakness. They need all the force for the confruntation with the enemy. But what I don`t understand is why not explain to Jung Hyeok`s partner that this separation was not forever. It is not very clear for me what really is happening. 

About Jenny still having romantic feelings for Jung Hyeok, despite their pact to be best friends forever, it could be that but I think more than that she needs someone on her side for emotional support. 

She can open up to Hyun jeok more than she opens up to Sun woo right now. I don`t think her husband knows who is the real Do young. Sun Woo knows Jenny very well and knows all her secrets, she loves him too as a part of her family but she doesn`t let him see her vulnerable side. Sun Woo`s frustration with his noona is that. He already knows that she is not a rock but she doesn`t let him comfort her. Jenny wants to protect him and she pretends that everything is alright in front of her team.  Like  "I am perfectly fine. Smile" moment.

 

11 hours ago, elan1 said:

I highly doubt it's going to happen. If it does, boy is the show going backwards with their homosexual stance. Close-minded people are like it's a phase, and once you find the right woman or man, you will finally settle down and have a regular family. If the show takes that route, they will just encourage the status quo.

 

I really like Jenny and Jung Hyeok`s relationship. They know each other for a long time too. Despite the fact that he is the son of the woman who took Jenny`s mother identity and took her real family, she liked him from the start. He was nice to her also. Probably Do young had romantic feellings in the past but she had to burry those feelings because he has gay and loved someone else. I don`t think she still has the same romantic feelings but she is emotionally close to him (and viceversa).

I wonder how he will react when he finds out that she kept a very important secret about his family from him. I hope he will understand . It is time for Jung Hyeok to help Jenny with actions. I am glad he came back home.

Jung Hyeok is gay. He loved his partner for so long. It is hard for me to believe that his feelings will change. I also don`t think this drama will show that. But in the same time, they gave us hints that he was interested in her, observing her a lot from afar. We don`t know why.... We`ll see in the upcoming episodes what`s going on.

I wonder who is Jung Hyeok`s father.

One more thing... Jenny was close to Jung Hyeok since they were young. Jenny was close to Sun Woo from longer. Sun Woo is a friend for Jung Hyeok too? What`s the relationship between both men? I wish the show will explore more this relationship. Jung Hyeok said one time that he cares for both Jenny and Sun woo.

 

I like this picture.

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@chubbz Thanks for your post. I understood/ interpreted the scene the same as you. 

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22 minutes ago, larus said:

I really like Jenny and Jung Hyeok`s relationship. They know each other for a long time too. Despite the fact that he is the son of the woman who took Jenny`s mother identity and took her real family, she liked him from the start. He was nice to her also. Probably Do young had romantic feellings in the past but she had to burry those feelings because he has gay and loved someone else. I don`t think she still has the same romantic feelings but she is emotionally close to him (and viceversa).

I wonder how he will react when he finds out that she kept a very important secret about his family from him. I hope he will understand . It is time for Jung Hyeok to help Jenny with actions. I am glad he came back home.

I feel very bad for JH...their society is so homophobic...and it is not an exaggeration. It is impossible for him to live happily ever after here especially when he comes from such a prominent family. ( I remember in DS60, the drama tried to broach the idea of equal opportunities and treatment for all regardless of their sexual preference, my goodness the knets were so against it and it was only a drama. It's a terribly sensitive subject. ) . So the drama will have to tread very carefully where it is headed with regards to his gay relationship.

 

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