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43 minutes ago, bella1025 said:

MH was so concerned about the perfect timing that he already missed his. The irony. 

 

Not that it would've made a difference. 

 

I posted a meme from twitter about MH getting ran over by that bike. I laughed a a little, pitied him, and kinda agreed with the poster that fate was a little harsh with him. And then later on... I thought.. OR NOT. Why? Because BY and JW were together that night, and pretty sure that if JW had found out (and now knowing his teensy bit possessive and protective manner around his gf), he would have driven her to the cafe. Things would've gone south and awkward and just painful for MH.

 

On the other hand, maybe he did get dealt with a little unkindly, because he seems to have gotten his hopes up. And just like BY, is probably imagining his ideal scenes with her. Tch. It was probably best to just rip the bandaid off quickly. 

 

What do you guys think?

 

BY hasn't been in love with him for a while and wasn't the moment they meet again. She didn't think of him in that way for a while so even if he were to confess first, I think she would have said no.

He may have "missed" the timing for confessing but it's not the same as getting a yes. She would have probably said that she only see him as a friend.

 

Fate wasn't hard on him. He was childish and hurt BY many time and then he choose to be mean and reject her.

Even the accident, he choose to cross the road without looking. It's never bad luck or fate with him.

 

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Awesome points as always @triplem. You're absolutely right. I would prefer that JW and BY have that uninterrupted night as well. MH can deal with the heartbreak later on once he's rejected. He has a lot of growing up to do and a rejection just might push him to better himself. 

 

 I still wish we'd seen JW that night. Therr should've been a side by side scene for both characters while they were both spazzing. Then again, maybe the writer made sure not to show us JW in order to surprise us on who has better mind control. :tongue: I honestly was all, "BY dating in secret and not be obvious? No way!". Turned out JW is the one who couldnt hold it in. Hahaahaha. 

 

@yusefull He was so darn cheerful and assuming that I felt like shaking him and ripping that bandaid off. :tongue: But I agree with you, his book was a red herring---its all NW's fault. Ha! 

 

NW to MH is what Dr Kim is to BY. 

 

It wouldnt have made a difference if he met her or not.. or if he confessed first. BY was and still is very much into JW. The rejection that's to come seems poetic, the only difference is that I know our girl BY would deal with him in a kind manner. 

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So after watching episode 11 and 12 and doen some thinking, I have to take back som of the word I said.

 

First about JW and BY. I really like that we got more understanding of who he is. And how they both have lost dreams. it also gave BY some grounded understanding of who he is as a person. So derby they can understand each other on a more deeper level. as a introvert person I can relate to JW. he had problem open up to people around him, and he was stand off with his co worker. witch I totally see that BY is pushing him to be more social at work. and she did open him again to love being an extrovert. I see how they balance each other out that way :) he also make her more mature. lol, he is totally different person in love  :lol::wub: and BY being happy make me happy!!!! 

 

I see many comment about MH and I feel that is very harsh word about him. episode 12 showed who he is as a person. He is a jokester, but he is also nice to people. Look at how he paid for the food and treated DB with respect. even though JJ said some bad words about him. MH parents did something right. also we can see how he actually is a good buddy to NW. like when he offered to ask a relative to give MW a room to stay at when he had to leave that student room. but NW did not want to so he paid for food instead. I think it is sad that he maybe have lost his change with BY. but if that not happen I hope he start to take his study more seriously and improve as a person. I think when he meet the next girl he knows what to do :wub:  write don`t forgetting him, I at least want to see him happy and improved person by the end of the drama. please!

 

I think this series strong point is how every character have their flaws but also their good side to them. witch make them more real and grounded. we learn something new about them in every episode. witch i Love. there is so many life lesson  from them.

And MW story got more sad... :cold_sweat:    

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@triplem Thanks and I concur as well. As a Yeh fan I agree that MH has no chance. He is not in the league of Yeh and not the same level maturity and stage in life as BY.

 

What you pointed out in Yeh is what I appreciate in him. He seems cold is he is just more impersonal/private. He had a tough time last place and frankly he is just being observing everyone. One of my former co-workers said to me, whenever at a new place. Act new, observe and learn to get the lay of the land and people.  He is not greedy--like you said he passed on the head of the center position offer away from MC as he feels he has lots to learn. I like that he noticed BY warmth from her poems and only truly said he was looking forward to working with her (when giving back the patient feedback). Hearing MC say good things about BY, seeing her tirelessly working and not complaining. She could have rightfully so with the unfairness of the work distribution but she didn't especially from repeat offender SW. Also JW stepped in to defend and protect BY from the irate insurance fraud patient. Seems def he has a soft spot for her from the getgo. First her attitude, good bed side manner, hard work ethic and earnestness. How can he not like that? Even when she was bumbling and drunk mumbling Yeh line he was not turned off. Or lifting the chair from the bag strap when she saw him at her table and she tried to quietly and unsuccessfully avoid JW--big fail.

 

He nixed YJ wanting to flirt with him as well as trying to be introduced and meet the athletes he knows.  When MC and YJ wanted pics and autographs he nixed that chance. They are there for treatment not to advertise a famous eatery or business. (You see pics of owners or autographs of famous people/clients/patrons adorning the walls.)  Yes, he is quick to accept criticism---like when MC chastised him for thinking of taking bribe/present from a patient when he did not find out it was from MC mom. Or he also berated himself in front of the mirror when he exacted petty revenge for BY but he was not proud of himself at all and did not let himself from correction.

 

BY is ready to get married or consider. Granted she is struggling and needs a FT position and paying off debt. But she is in a more stable mind frame and state than --constantly wanting to club MH.Remember he kept wanting to club as it was so boring at the town/hospital they are working at area. 

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Written preview for ep 13. Once again it's in Korean so I'd appreciate it a lot if someone can translate it :) (google translate said it's about the rector of the department accepting her as a good therapist (i'm guessing the rector praised BY), and BY is getting heartbroken because of a news and MH tries to comfort her? is this true?? well.. we know she's not getting heartbroken because of JW so i wonder why she's getting heartbroken? is it because of her job?)

 

컨퍼런스에서 처방에 대한 건의를 한 보영! 존경하는 재활의학과 과장님의 지지를 얻고 좋은 치료사로서 인정까지 받게 되자 넘나 기분 좋은 것~!! 날아갈 듯 기쁘고...! 간만에 일도, 사랑도 순탄하구나 싶던 찰나 보영은 뜻밖의 가슴 아픈 소식을 접하고 만다. 그런 보영을 위로하려 애쓰는 재욱... 보영을 위해 고백까지 미룬 민호... 두 남자가 보영을 위한 나름의 배려를 이어가던 중 보영은 재욱과 같이 보려던 뮤지컬을 민호에게 보지 않겠냐 묻게 되는데!...

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2 hours ago, bella1025 said:

MH was so concerned about the perfect timing that he already missed his. The irony. 

 

Not that it would've made a difference. 

 

I posted a meme from twitter about MH getting ran over by that bike. I laughed a a little, pitied him, and kinda agreed with the poster that fate was a little harsh with him. And then later on... I thought.. OR NOT. Why? Because BY and JW were together that night, and pretty sure that if JW had found out (and now knowing his teensy bit possessive and protective manner around his gf), he would have driven her to the cafe. Things would've gone south and awkward and just painful for MH.

 

On the other hand, maybe he did get dealt with a little unkindly, because he seems to have gotten his hopes up. And just like BY, is probably imagining his ideal scenes with her. Tch. It was probably best to just rip the bandaid off quickly. 

 

What do you guys think?

 

I don't think MH really likes BY. If BY never started liking JW, I don't think MH would have started to like BY. MH needs to deal with his family and his past before he can move on. He was jealous of his older brother because his family showed more interest due to the fact that his brother became a doctor like his parents and now he is jealous because BY loves JW. He needs to learn to love  himself and then when the right time come, he can meet that special girl.

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i love to read all the comments here, so well said .

Sill me , last night i tried to re watch from ep 1 :lol: ,   BY is not love at first sight to JW rather she started as admiring his attitude and professionalism . The poem about the first meeting ,  that narrated her feeling at the moment, she felt warmth that someone like JW noticed her effort and hard work finally and she was thrilled that JW also appreciates those poem she sent to her.  Compare to MH, she had the crush when they first met, and because she thought that MH and her had same interest and suitable to each other when she misunderstood that MH also like poem ( during the confession, after MH said she is not her cup oftea ,  she even insist they are suitable) .  Writernim does did a contrast story here.

But along the way , all characters are slowly revealed their true self , and their behind stories and audience get to know more and more about them, MH is not a totally jerk after all , but he is too mean to BY , making fun of her because of her clumsiness.

 

In EP11, the poem about good timing , and MH interpreted as good timing to confess .. and the story set in a way that JW has the good timing to confess rather than MH ( he met accident half way). In EP 11 ,  BY did say that she thought JW is a warmth person but she might be wrong , and i dislike how MH response eventhough he wants her to get over JW. Anyway , As i said before , this drama doent have " bad guy"  so everyone would have their good site and will slowly reveal more through the drama.

 

I am very agree that MH & BY are at different level of maturity ,  BY is looking for someone that she can gain strength and growth in her life, who understand her , she always consider others feeling first than herself , she always put others first than herself. But i think JW will help her to gain her back her confidence.

What i like this drama is , always gives my calm and assurance that life isnt that tough after all ..but  life couldnt be always smooth and easy ..but we can overcome it. Though i am very worried before ep 12 that who is the male lead and who the one BY will choose.

 

Sorry for my english, not very well in writing out my thought very fluently  hahah

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1 hour ago, gracebkk said:

Written preview for ep 13. Once again it's in Korean so I'd appreciate it a lot if someone can translate it :) (google translate said it's about the rector of the department accepting her as a good therapist (i'm guessing the rector praised BY), and BY is getting heartbroken because of a news and MH tries to comfort her? is this true?? well.. we know she's not getting heartbroken because of JW so i wonder why she's getting heartbroken? is it because of her job?)

 

컨퍼런스에서 처방에 대한 건의를 한 보영! 존경하는 재활의학과 과장님의 지지를 얻고 좋은 치료사로서 인정까지 받게 되자 넘나 기분 좋은 것~!! 날아갈 듯 기쁘고...! 간만에 일도, 사랑도 순탄하구나 싶던 찰나 보영은 뜻밖의 가슴 아픈 소식을 접하고 만다. 그런 보영을 위로하려 애쓰는 재욱... 보영을 위해 고백까지 미룬 민호... 두 남자가 보영을 위한 나름의 배려를 이어가던 중 보영은 재욱과 같이 보려던 뮤지컬을 민호에게 보지 않겠냐 묻게 되는데!...

 Actually text preview couldnt give much picture of the story .. :lol:

from the ep13 preview ,  JW & BY looks so happy , and there was  BY voice said having seonsengnim by her side gave her strength ..( Edit : the heart broken news could be the chief Kim that she admirered got sick or something..  from the preview , Chief Kim did say that he doesnt has the slightest hope ? )

It seems MH still dont know they are dating

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its funny how everyone is concerned with MH to grow up, become a better person and these comments are not even once mentioned for other characters.

 

What does MH need to do to become a better person? He is a good man even now.

 

And why in the world do people think MH needs growing up to do? Ye also needs. And most importantly and mostly BY needs that.

 

 

so many people don't click with so many other people. But just because that other person in this case is BY aka lead female.. MH becomes a bad person? What about her less intense stalkerish/ irritating behavior to gain his attention.. 

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@enigmatic_zephy I think its primarily because of his half-@** apology to BY after drunkenly telling JW about her liking him in the past, basically painting her as crazy person. Not to mention that he has been half a jerk to her throughout the first half of the drama. I agree thay he has bee quite nice to BY in the recent episodes but that's only because he decided that he likes her. He's not entirely evil and we've seen glimpses of his goodness, but I honestly think that would still be pulling those awful pranks if it werent for the fact that he likes her now. 

 

While I quite agree that his attitude might have been affected by his family's treatment of him, he still needs to learn to not use that excuse (in his mind) in order to justify any misbehaving in the future. That's the growth that I want to see. We still havent seen how he'll react the news of JW&BY dating, so I'll reserve my judgement.

 

One prime example of his pettiness is rubbing it in JW's face that he was with BY and implying that they were alone together at the beach. Another is when he pushed BY to forget about JW quickly..not because he was a concerned friend (as BY wouldve expected) but because he had an ulterior motive. I find that a little childish though he has an excuse and thats because he liked her. This is where he's different from JW. Dr. Ye acknowledged his faults and asked for a second chance, completely aware that BY's heart may not be with him after being rejected by him (remember, he saw her with MH a lot). JW is just as straightforward as BY. When they decided to date, they say what they mean and mean what they say which is more than I can say for MH. I still wish the best for MH though, hope he gets a good girl and appreciates her right back without missing the timing.

 

And you're absolutely right about the others needing a lot of growing up too. I think we've seen that in NW last episode. 

 

P.S.  i want to thank you for still sticking to the thread despite having read a lot of YEliners thoughts. I keep remembering back when i was at FBND and i was rooting for the other guy that didnt end up with the girl. lol. Everyone had strong points to say but everyone still remained respectful. :) I know we still have 4 episodes and there are still MH shippers and Im honestly on tenterhooks as well because I dont know this writer well and there's always a first time. Nevertheless Im still a Yeliner through and through. HA! 

 

Im also glad that we dont call each other names here for shipping opposite liners. lmao I find comments on other forums that are just beyond laughable. Lol

 

Anyway, 4 episodes remaining.. I think BY's sad in the preview because the guest doctor? is sick and needs treatment and she idolizes him.

 

@Nodame Thanks for your thoughts too, chinggu. 

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@bella1025 @enigmatic_zephy  I agree we can agree to disagree on Yeh and MH respectfully.

 

@bella1025 Thanks for recounting why we feel MH needs to grow up in terms of his dealings with BY in the past and that long ago. We know he can be a decent person and caring when he wants. But he is used to getting his own way (maybe not at home) but with friends and what his parents money can afford. But it was how immaturely he reacted in certain situations . 

 

@enigmatic_zephy I see you mentioning no one is fully mature and needs to grow up. No one is perfect I see that. But even if JW feels emotionally stunted he was immature plotting revenge for BY. I agree BUT he had self awareness what he did was not right and even chastised himself. He was ashamed of himself. I don’t recall MH doing that at all after shows Ng embarrassing pic of BY to JW or when drunk outing her one sided crush on him. He even boasted proudly how he rejected her too. When he had to share info he didn’t want to , JW wanted immaturely for him to get a taste of his own medicine. Doesn’t make it right but he did it. 

 

Deliberately tripping someone is wrong and MH did that to BY. BY in MH eyes is a stalker you could say from one perspective but she was harmless and did not have ill intentions. She cleaned his car, gave him good Kim Bap, happily cheered him on for soccer & even wished him happy bday. So you could say he harshly rejected her deliberately as a result. 

 

BY is sensitive and enthusiastic but she is NOT petty or deliberately mean. When she will reject MH she won’t do what he did to her. She is empathetic and very considerate of others tearing up easily ie hearing MH sadness meeting his parents & forgetting his bday. Or YJ seeing her ex at the hospital or hearing JW back story Of why he left.

 

MH as @bella1025 pointed out though saying he wanted her happy he really wasn’t looking out for BY but himself- when upset with JW , he told her to just get over him quick. Both JW and BY were considerate of the other when they got together and that was beautiful. As others eloquently mentioned and glad they got that time together.

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i am very enjoy on reading the comment here.. :)

I totally understand how it feels when have second lead syndrome,  my recent experience was Jealousy Incarnate , i stopped watching half way. I come across of an article about LJH interview with a magazine . He said that this drama will elaborate about stories beyond the lead which he finds very special and rare. So i would expect there are many more stories to cover in just 4 episodes.

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1 hour ago, bella1025 said:

@enigmatic_zephy I think its primarily because of his half-@** apology to BY after drunkenly telling JW about her liking him in the past,

What about Ye then? when he couldn't defend the honor of a woman he supposedly was in relationship with? people gossip about it.. you don't like it .. so you leave.. no decency to ask them to shut up or that you don't want to discuss such things..

 

Mh was jealous.. as are so many male leads in other drama and people go "aww" all over that. Was MH right? No... but the way people are writing about his "growing up" .. it makes one wonder what exactly did he do that was so wrong for everyone preaching how he should live and become a good human..

 

Yes it was one stupid action from a desperate boy in love... trying to keep others away from her.. (selfish) .... like it was super pretentious of BY (and so much more ugly underlying emotion of pretense) to go crying and gloat in everyone's compliment to think she was the reason that boy GB decided to co-operate in the therapy... (I am not saying BY is not good, she is and kind.. but some part of her does all of this for not so selfless reasons)

1 hour ago, bella1025 said:

 

basically painting her as crazy person. Not to mention that he has been half a jerk to her throughout the first half of the drama. I agree thay he has bee quite nice to BY in the recent episodes but that's only because he decided that he likes her. He's not entirely evil and we've seen glimpses of his goodness, but I honestly think that would still be pulling those awful pranks if it werent for the fact that he likes her now. 

awful pranks?

- bursting the bubble? what if they were two boys? or did i miss something.. wasn't he nice to her in college too... how was she part of his circle on social gatherings (please note it wasn't the study circle celebrating occassions everywhere)

 

how many times have we seen BY do something nice for her step brother? the two lady interns? Dr. Park? - ZILCH

 

Please note, BY also does nice things to those people whom she really likes..

The reasons for which BY didn't like MH, MH never did them in the first place.. which NW told her much later..and it is from that point onwards she also stopped throwing her seniority weight around him (like ordering him with a little rude note)...

 

In most of the dramas, i think focusing on the girl gets the answers... if she is not being nice to others and being nice to a few.. there is a reason

1 hour ago, bella1025 said:

 

While I quite agree that his attitude might have been affected by his family's treatment of him, he still needs to learn to not use that excuse (in his mind) in order to justify any misbehaving in the future. That's the growth that I want to see. We still havent seen how he'll react the news of JW&BY dating, so I'll reserve my judgement.

 

One prime example of his pettiness is rubbing it in JW's face that he was with BY and implying that they were alone together at the beach. Another is when he pushed BY to forget about JW quickly..not because he was a concerned friend (as BY wouldve expected) but because he had an ulterior motive. I find that a little childish though he has an excuse and thats because he liked her. This is where he's different from JW. Dr. Ye acknowledged his faults and asked for a second chance, completely aware that BY's heart may not be with him after being rejected by him (remember, he saw her with MH a lot). JW is just as straightforward as BY. When they decided to date, they say what they mean and mean what they say which is more than I can say for MH. I still wish the best for MH though, hope he gets a good girl and appreciates her right back without missing the timing.

Correct, and he acknowledged it in his poem.. even though she is hurt from rejection, his heart sighs a relief.. how is that a jerk reaction? It is a real life normal reaction.

 

Didn't ye also sprung into action because he thought he would lose BY to MH? was that a jerk reaction or pettiness. I am not very sure if you are comparing JW's proposal to BY (who confessed her love to him 2 days prior) to MH not proposing a girl (who has just been rejected..)

 

wasn't that actually the better thing to say? 

- in her interest

- and in his own interest

 

Infact, all through that beach he could have tried getting close to her right like NW kept saying..but he didn't. Also, when he is caring for her.. he does it in a very laid back way so that she doesnt get uncomfortable thinking he is doing it for her..

 

 

While i agree with you on Ye being straighforward.. BY is anything but straightforward.. don't mistake her crying with being staightforward... the only instance of her being "straightforward" is when she confessed to Ye because she had nothing to lose ( also she is a girl who has never had a boyfriend, has been convinced into thinking that she is on yeline, and someone is actually being nice to her)

 

1 hour ago, bella1025 said:

 

And you're absolutely right about the others needing a lot of growing up too. I think we've seen that in NW last episode. 

Lol.. exactly, i just want everyone to acknowledge that all characters are good and worse at par.. nobody is more jerk than the other.. so yea.. it bugs  me when people keep doling advice to MH :)

 

him and Dr. Kim (the lady) are probably the most mature characters along with the Director in this show ( and who are genuinely nice , not wanting something in return)... add defcon too..

 

and if there is one person who is truly capable of being a jerk.. then that's Jooyoung joo young :) but then he is my favourite character :tongue: so i don't crib

1 hour ago, bella1025 said:

 

P.S.  i want to thank you for still sticking to the thread despite having read a lot of YEliners thoughts. I keep remembering back when i was at FBND and i was rooting for the other guy that didnt end up with the girl. lol. Everyone had strong points to say but everyone still remained respectful. :) I know we still have 4 episodes and there are still MH shippers and Im honestly on tenterhooks as well because I dont know this writer well and there's always a first time. Nevertheless Im still a Yeliner through and through. HA! 

 

Im also glad that we dont call each other names here for shipping opposite liners. lmao I find comments on other forums that are just beyond laughable. Lol

 

Anyway, 4 episodes remaining.. I think BY's sad in the preview because the guest doctor? is sick and needs treatment and she idolizes him.

 

@Nodame Thanks for your thoughts too, chinggu. 

 

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I guess everyone has written what I will write below here many times, but let me re-echo it once more.... I love love love this whole story in this show!! It feels so refreshing and relieving when things turns pretty pretty sweet and heartwarming! they don't just present the candy coated love story of the OTP but it gives more meaning to the story plot. And BY keeps making me love her and root her with Dr. Ye even more!! they're so well matched. I just love the show. Hope it keeps being this good till the end. ah.. end, how many eps we still have now? 4 or 8? 

 

It feels like I'm missing the the time when I'm not spazzing more here before. lol, but okay, I'm still having fun on my own watching this show. :D

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1 hour ago, Nodame said:

@bella1025 @enigmatic_zephy  I agree we can agree to disagree on Yeh and MH respectfully.

 

@bella1025 Thanks for recounting why we feel MH needs to grow up in terms of his dealings with BY in the past and that long ago. We know he can be a decent person and caring when he wants. But he is used to getting his own way (maybe not at home) but with friends and what his parents money can afford. But it was how immaturely he reacted in certain situations . 

 

@enigmatic_zephy I see you mentioning no one is fully mature and needs to grow up. No one is perfect I see that. But even if JW feels emotionally stunted he was immature plotting revenge for BY. I agree BUT he had self awareness what he did was not right and even chastised himself. He was ashamed of himself. I don’t recall MH doing that at all after shows Ng embarrassing pic of BY to JW or when drunk outing her one sided crush on him. He even boasted proudly how he rejected her too. When he had to share info he didn’t want to , JW wanted immaturely for him to get a taste of his own medicine. Doesn’t make it right but he did it. 

This i just explained or rather gave me perspective on another reply above

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Deliberately tripping someone is wrong and MH did that to BY. BY in MH eyes is a stalker you could say from one perspective but she was harmless and did not have ill intentions. She cleaned his car, gave him good Kim Bap, happily cheered him on for soccer & even wished him happy bday. So you could say he harshly rejected her deliberately as a result. 

This is interesting point. And i am going to take this for its deeper meaning and not APAD related.

When you say BY is right. Visualize this,

 

a guy likes a girl on campus. He is always following her around, touching her things (without permission.. he is doing it out of love.. but leaving his presence on everything she owns), every little gesture of the girl is construed as her liking him which makes the girl uncomfortable, .. by being that obvious he might also be scaring or putting other boys away from the girl.

 

Now if the girl has the strength to end it there(like MH) did.. great..

but what if it just went on forever .. see unwanted attention is never a good thing.. maybe unless you are very very sure that the other person loves you but is angry and needs coaxing

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BY is sensitive and enthusiastic but she is NOT petty or deliberately mean. When she will reject MH she won’t do what he did to her. She is empathetic and very considerate of others tearing up easily ie hearing MH sadness meeting his parents & forgetting his bday. Or YJ seeing her ex at the hospital or hearing JW back story Of why he left.

 

MH as @bella1025 pointed out though saying he wanted her happy he really wasn’t looking out for BY but himself- when upset with JW , he told her to just get over him quick. Both JW and BY were considerate of the other when they got together and that was beautiful. As others eloquently mentioned and glad they got that time together.

two words: step brother

 

 

 

and you know that is the worst thing anyone can do to anyone else.. negate their whole existence.. make them regret they were born.. tell them they don't have a family.. and maybe that is why her mother works extra hard at loving the step son to balance out BY's acerbic words

 

A child who has no family, born because two adults decided to be jerks... nobody to take care of him.. isn't he the youngest... if it were not for BY's mom.. he could have gotten into wrong company... 

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39 minutes ago, enigmatic_zephy said:

two words: step brother

If I remember correctly, she didn't tell it to his face but when he was away (bathroom?) ? (Can't find witch episode she go eat with him and her mom)

 

About the step-brother, he is not the biological child of BY mother but BY father with another woman. She say in the first episode that their father left them with huge debt and the child (who is not a baby but probably around 10 years old). Because of him she had to work part time and let go of her dream while her mom had to raised the child. She even learned that the child exist after the funeral. But in the end, BY mother treat him better than she treat BY.

On one side you got BY who lost the prize she won fairly, is humiliated about MH and doesn't feel that anybody aknowlegde her hard work.  She can't go to her house because there is YJ there and she feel like she is at work because she has to do everything. Then when she go to her family for some kind of solace, she find a lazy brother while she has to work as his age. Her mother forgive him for everything and she feel it's unfair. He is the catalyst of her lost dream.

 

It's like a parent who say they love their children the same but got one children who is hard working and does his best and another who is the opposite. The hard working will feel it's unfair to get as mutch love as the one who do nothing and since the other one do nothing, the parents generally take care of him more and in the end the hard working feel it's even more unfair and may even start to do bad things.

If BY come home and feel that way, it's kind of logical. I don't say she is right to react that way but it's understandable.

 

50 minutes ago, enigmatic_zephy said:

a guy likes a girl on campus. He is always following her around, touching her things (without permission.. he is doing it out of love.. but leaving his presence on everything she owns), every little gesture of the girl is construed as her liking him which makes the girl uncomfortable, .. by being that obvious he might also be scaring or putting other boys away from the girl.

You are so right when you say this. She stalked him. We can all say that there is worst type of stalking but it still is.

The only thing I would say about it is that MH give her many true mix signal. In a flashback of episode 1, she is late for work so he proposed to take her there and he say that if she got there on time they have to date then he say the "just kidding". After that he say she is cool for liking poetry. Then he tell her story to make him a victim so she do her work. She shouldn't have stalk him but MH is not innocent and like you said, as soon as MH told her to stop she did.

 

1 hour ago, enigmatic_zephy said:

Correct, and he acknowledged it in his poem.. even though she is hurt from rejection, his heart sighs a relief.. how is that a jerk reaction? It is a real life normal reaction.

 

Didn't ye also sprung into action because he thought he would lose BY to MH? was that a jerk reaction or pettiness. I am not very sure if you are comparing JW's proposal to BY (who confessed her love to him 2 days prior) to MH not proposing a girl (who has just been rejected..)

 

wasn't that actually the better thing to say? 

- in her interest

- and in his own interest

 

Infact, all through that beach he could have tried getting close to her right like NW kept saying..but he didn't. Also, when he is caring for her.. he does it in a very laid back way so that she doesnt get uncomfortable thinking he is doing it for her..

You are right that it's normal for a guy to be relieved when he learn that the girl he like got rejected and that doesn't make him bad but human.

I think that he waited to confess only because he know it's too soon and she will say no just for. He wait for it to have the most success rate.

And the fact that he is nice but not to her face make me remember the e1nd of the episode where they go help in the countryside (the one with the chicken) when he say at the end that he see her good point. I still feel it's him not assuming totally is feeling.

 

1 hour ago, enigmatic_zephy said:

Lol.. exactly, i just want everyone to acknowledge that all characters are good and worse at par.. nobody is more jerk than the other.. so yea.. it bugs  me when people keep doling advice to MH :)

There are just human and not perfect. They all can be better but since BY is the MC, it's her relationship with the other that it's seen the most.

From the begining of the show and even before they introduce JW, we mostly see MH being mean and childish with her and the only thing that "excuse him" (it doesn't really) is his family.

YJ and SW used her but then you learn that YJ divorced because she can't have a child and to protect her ex-husband lie to him and SW got a hard time because of money and his mom. In truth they are neither good or bad but normal like most people.

 

1 hour ago, enigmatic_zephy said:

The reasons for which BY didn't like MH, MH never did them in the first place.. which NW told her much later..and it is from that point onwards she also stopped throwing her seniority weight around him (like ordering him with a little rude note)...

Well she is his superior but ever since the begining she say she will forget about her past and just be professional. It's him who isn't. Look at episode 2 with the guy who lost a leg. She got punished for his mistake. He doesn't care about his job and do nothing to get better. When they go to the countryside and while she work, he make her fall with the chicken and give her more work. It's always like that.

I think that without the past, she would have been mutch harder on him.

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I started watching this because I was skimming the comments here and was intrigued and am glad I started. I am at episode 4 and so far the story is interesting and I like the focus and the stories. Very heart warming drama.

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14 minutes ago, hyall said:

I started watching this because I was skimming the comments here and was intrigued and am glad I started. I am at episode 4 and so far the story is interesting and I like the focus and the stories. Very heart warming drama.

Welcome !

it is the heart warming and so close to reality that makes me continue this drama, the daily life working in hospital.. .. of coz the first catch my attention is LJH being as main role, and i am curious what kind of drama is this . :D

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2 hours ago, yusefull said:

 

 

There are just human and not perfect. They all can be better but since BY is the MC, it's her relationship with the other that it's seen the most.

From the begining of the show and even before they introduce JW, we mostly see MH being mean and childish with her and the only thing that "excuse him" (it doesn't really) is his family.

This is bothering me..

MH has not once used his family as an excuse... no one even knows about it... BY found out accidently... even closest of his friend don't..

 

Don't imply things that he hasn't done :)

 

And again, mean.. was he mean.. when the show started, he didn't like her.. and didn't want to associate with her.. why is that wrong. .. atleast he wasn't pretending to be nice on her face ( which btw BY does a lot)

 

Ye is equally rude in his dealing with other people.. who is he to judge if people are behaving properly or not.. his definition, his way.. nah!

 

 

My pet peeve right now is..nobody is questioning BY.. the female protagnist never gets questioned..

 

Male leads do, second leads do.. for good or for bad.. but female lead is blanket nice.. unless its a show like misty where the write rhas to be in your face to make you think about the motivations of the female lead...

 

By isn't as nice and hence if you are going to use the parameter of her relationships with others to judge i fothers are good people or not in the context of the drama... you have to first consider if BY's intentions and behavior is not driving their reaction... 

 

eg. MH was he being a jerk in ep 1 or was he put face to face with a woman who was very weird and pretentious with him (from his perspective)... Is Ye nice because he is nice.. o rbecause he just came out of a relationship and there was someone around to make him laugh and someone who was in childlike awe of him...

 

and do you really think step brother thinks sis loves him? well if he doesn't then that means BY was mean to him.. and if he does then that means she is pretending being nice.. a genuinely nice and kind person will not, cannot, doesnot pretend with anyone.. not even a stranger

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