[Official] Kookmin Clan

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16 minutes ago, Catch-22 said:

It is KJK's turn, and I recognized the singer right away but KJK had trouble (a little suspicious).

LMAO both even follow each other on instagram, also KDJ said he really admired KJK. But, KJK even yelled 2 times not knowing that guy (Very suspicious) lol

 

i Hope KDJ didnt do anything wrong to KJK, because i remember when Haha betray KJK, the next filming RM, KJK ignored Haha and act like he was not there with them lol (eventhough it only for Variety Show and for fun)

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This episode was not what I expected. I thought that it's gonna be scary asf. But in general, it's still nice. The twists are great even though I already thought that sukjin will be the other protein monster. I didn't expect that they will choose kjk because it seems obvious. lol

 

anw, I thought that we're not gonna have kookmin moments this episode because there are a lot of spartace moments. But I really like the poem scene and also the ending. "How could you look into my eyes..." caught me off-guard. 

 

I also thought that kjk was actually confused to who is in the picture since I didn't notice that it's dong jun. But what made me confused is that he used the word "punk". I mean, if he truly didn't know who that person is, he will not say "punk" because it will sound rude. Then I read your analysis in here and I thought that he really knows that it's dongjun but refused to answer it. I don't want to be delulu but it's suspicious hmm..

[kyoko22]

I found an interesting coincidence.

 

Timestamp 52:05. It was JK who said that dialogue on this photo. He said 'The title of one of the books I had had Gookmin (국민 - Resident) in it. And it was Min (민) underlined in yellow.'

 

Timestamp 52:27. While JK was talking with YJS, Somin tried to solve the riddle with YSC and LDY. Note that Room 205 was JK's room. His book was already in her hand. Me think they had a discussion about this before JK went to find YJS.

 

Okay. This is the interesting part. For JK's book (205), the title of that book actually Daehan Mingook (대한민국) where Mingook means Republic of Korea. JK somehow confused with the word Mingook (the book's title) and Gookmin (the word he mentioned to YJS). Imagine the possibility for him to confuse the name of his country and the word resident... What an interesting mistake. And silly mistake I would say considering he is a man with good memory.

 

Note: Gookmin also can be spelled as Kookmin.

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Just now, kyoko22 said:

JK somehow confused with the word Mingook (the book's title) and Gookmin (the word he mentioned to YJS). Imagine the possibility for him to confuse the name of his country and the word resident... What an interesting mistake. And silly mistake I would say considering he is a man with good memory.

 

Note: Gookmin also can be spelled as Kookmin.

You really sound like KJK who try to teach Jessy Hangul lol 

Did you learn hangul or you understand korean?

Nice catch btw but i dont think KJK were thinking about 'US' must be a mistake from him. 

Spoiler

silly mistake considering that he has a hidden identity.

 

[kyoko22]

@Vimsmoke SanjiI recognize the hangul alphabets. So, I can read the words. My understanding just at basic level. Recognize several words, understand basic conversations.

 

1 hour ago, Vimsmoke Sanji said:

Nice catch btw but i dont think KJK were thinking about 'US' must be a mistake from him. 

 

Rather than thinking about us, I believe it is more he think about kookmin as his and Somin nickname. Not that I'm implying anything. But from the 2nd photo I post above, I believe JK and Somin had met and discussed about the books clue before JK went to search for YJS. Because JK's book already in Somin's hand. Since he maybe just met Somin, it is possible he got confuse between Mingook and Gookmin.

 

But it also can be just his mistake. A very silly mistake. Very funny he can get confuse with his country's name. After all, he is a very detailed man and has a good memory. 

 

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Just now, kyoko22 said:

But it also can be just his mistake. A very silly mistake. Very funny he can get confuse with his country's name. After all, he is a very detailed man and has a good memory.

Thinkwise, detailed person usually gonna suprised us whenever they make mistake, but i think this is their flaws, their charms making them easy to approach.

 

Just now, kyoko22 said:

Rather than thinking about us, I believe it is more he think about kookmin as his and Somin nickname. Not that I'm implying anything. But from the 2nd photo I post above, I believe JK and Somin had met and discussed about the books clue before JK went to search for YJS. Because JK's book already in Somin's hand. Since he maybe just met Somin, it is possible he got confuse between Mingook and Gookmin.

This is option 1.

 

Option 2 I'm thinking the situation would be like ..

JSM love Escape Room, so it could be that she searched all the rooms by herself to find any hints, found a books, grab it and hide under her mattress only decide to revealed when she meet a less supspicious members/guests. We can saw that JSM really having fun in the last game although she speak less now.

 

There could be other option but my brain malfunction right now lol

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Jongkook oppa love her food

[MandelBrot]

kjk with sjh and somin with sechan... i knew it XD

 

 

 

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3 hours ago, MandelBrot said:

kjk with sjh and somin with sechan... i knew it XD

To me it was inevitable. I think part of the reason is to maybe protect Somin from the haters? We all know RM is notorious for the JK JH ship even when there is nothing going on between them. I think Somin and sechan are playing their part well though lol

Edited December 19, 2020 by Jillia
Please do not quote pics! Thanks!

[HappyVirusRM]

Speaking about Somin x Sechan, this is the second time they lose on the couple awards. When I was watching the show, I’m 98% percent sure Sechan talked about Somin winning that same award with Kwangsoo. And for a split second, I thought to myself, “hmmm, maybe that’s why Chanmin can’t win the award.” Then I remember it’s SBS we’re talking about  SBS doesn’t care what people say about the members, so it’s obvious that’s not what stopping them. 
 

So I continued thinking about it, and I honestly I don’t have a clue on why Chanmin didn’t win the award hahaha SBS even did a huge Chanmin compilation which garnered a lot of views. 
 

I’ll be truthful and say that in the back of my heart, I didn’t want them to win :/ I would’ve obviously been happy for them if they did win, but, my fear was that a win would make RM push the loveline even stronger.
So now I wonder, will RM stop the loveline? 

[Rahayu Muktiayu]

It look a like 

Spoiler

 

[AB_fan]

8 hours ago, HappyVirusRM said:

Speaking about Somin x Sechan, this is the second time they lose on the couple awards. When I was watching the show, I’m 98% percent sure Sechan talked about Somin winning that same award with Kwangsoo. And for a split second, I thought to myself, “hmmm, maybe that’s why Chanmin can’t win the award.” Then I remember it’s SBS we’re talking about  SBS doesn’t care what people say about the members, so it’s obvious that’s not what stopping them. 
 

So I continued thinking about it, and I honestly I don’t have a clue on why Chanmin didn’t win the award hahaha SBS even did a huge Chanmin compilation which garnered a lot of views. 
 

I’ll be truthful and say that in the back of my heart, I didn’t want them to win :/ I would’ve obviously been happy for them if they did win, but, my fear was that a win would make RM push the loveline even stronger.
So now I wonder, will RM stop the loveline? 

Hi,

 

Yes, Sechan mentioned the 2017 CP award for Somin & Kwangsoo. But I think a celeb can still get 2 CP awards with different people, although not easy since the chemistry needed is very high. Actually, i think Sechan's words help to serve a reminder that on-screen CP is for the show/reel life and should not be taken as the gospel truth for real life (maybe he and Somin really wants to maintain as friends, not as romantic partners which others keep pushing?)

 

However, for many fans who watch both MUD and RM, it is rather clear cut that Won Hee will win the CP award - their chemistry really outscored Chanmin CP. So congratulations to them coz I really enjoyed his CP performances in MUD. 

 

Unfortunately, unless Somin or Sechan have a significant other or other CP lines in other shows, I think RM will still continue to push Chanmin. Not sure why, but Korean shows seems to have a pre-conceived notion that their shows must have a CP couple (can be non-romantic), so RM seems to be left with Chanmin. Actually, winning a CP award will mean that RM will stop pushing the loveline - the shows will need to look for fresh lovelines to push. Hence, the best way for Chanmin to stop is to actually win Best CP award.

 

Hence, I hope the pressure does not get to them - it is not easy to achieve the level of chemistry and teamwork needed for winning the CP award. If you look at MUD, they are not the champion SBS show for nothing - 3 consecutive wins for Best CP award (2018 KJK-HJY / 2019 LSM-TJH / 2020 IWH-JSY)   And fans who watched MUD will know the level of chemistry these 3 CP displayed are really no joke, so i hope RM will strike a balance when pushing Chanmin and not over-push to the point whereby it drowned out their other personas and chemistry with other RM members.

 

Meanwhile, congratulations to KJK and HH!!!  They really deserved the awards, in fact, many had said that it really came so late for them.. All the best for RM and hope they continue improving and getting better. 

 

P.S. Really loved it that YJS announced and gave to KJK. Awww my YJS-KJK CP...... and great that KJK won the award. Perhaps now left is for him to get married (hopefully next year).

 

Thanks very much.

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27 minutes ago, AB_fan said:

Hi,

 

Yes, Sechan mentioned the 2017 CP award for Somin & Kwangsoo. But I think a celeb can still get 2 CP awards with different people, although not easy since the chemistry needed is very high. Actually, i think Sechan's words help to serve a reminder that on-screen CP is for the show/reel life and should not be taken as the gospel truth for real life (maybe he and Somin really wants to maintain as friends, not as romantic partners which others keep pushing?)

 

However, for many fans who watch both MUD and RM, it is rather clear cut that Won Hee will win the CP award - their chemistry really outscored Chanmin CP. So congratulations to them coz I really enjoyed his CP performances in MUD. 

 

Unfortunately, unless Somin or Sechan have a significant other or other CP lines in other shows, I think RM will still continue to push Chanmin. Not sure why, but Korean shows seems to have a pre-conceived notion that their shows must have a CP couple (can be non-romantic), so RM seems to be left with Chanmin. Actually, winning a CP award will mean that RM will stop pushing the loveline - the shows will need to look for fresh lovelines to push. Hence, the best way for Chanmin to stop is to actually win Best CP award.

 

Hence, I hope the pressure does not get to them - it is not easy to achieve the level of chemistry and teamwork needed for winning the CP award. If you look at MUD, they are not the champion SBS show for nothing - 3 consecutive wins for Best CP award (2018 KJK-HJY / 2019 LSM-TJH / 2020 IWH-JSY)   And fans who watched MUD will know the level of chemistry these 3 CP displayed are really no joke, so i hope RM will strike a balance when pushing Chanmin and not over-push to the point whereby it drowned out their other personas and chemistry with other RM members.

 

Meanwhile, congratulations to KJK and HH!!!  They really deserved the awards, in fact, many had said that it really came so late for them.. All the best for RM and hope they continue improving and getting better. 

 

P.S. Really loved it that YJS announced and gave to KJK. Awww my YJS-KJK CP...... and great that KJK won the award. Perhaps now left is for him to get married (hopefully next year).

 

Thanks very much.

I slightly disagree when you said for them to stop being shipped they need to win. Slightly because I think it's more down to the production team and members.

 

I believe the KS SM ship was highlighted in the first SBS award ceremony RM attended after getting new members. Their ship won the award (even though they were not being forced like chanmin was). Then somehow at the second award ceremony they were still being talked about. The MCs teased the KS SM ship about it and they were made to seem real (hence KS's dating announcement the following week or so).

 

Basically once you win the best couple award and you are on RM, it's going to keep coming back.

 

Notice the MC ship and KJK HJY ship kept coming up even after their wins.

 

My thing is that, since ysc and sm did not win as best couple, they should drop the act and shine as individuals and/ or friends for the sake of their chemistry. It's better natural than forced and I know ysc does take good care of Somin off screen and sometimes on screen.

 

I pray the members take a hint about chanmin otherwise I sense next year they may really try to push for their win.

 

KJK and SM on the other hand would have been strong contenders because their relationship transformed the most on the show and it wasn't forced either. However, this is just me but, I feel RM production team nipped kookmin in the bud early on. They did not want them to be seen romantically. On the other hand Ive always wondered about that kookmin compilation - super chemistry? If you don't want to ship them on the show why make such a romantic compilation in the first place? Very interesting...lol

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next week: kookmin + sooyoung

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[Catch-22]

Ok, so no one shoot the messenger (a.k.a. get upset with me), but I watched the SBS award show with subtitles.  There is good news and something that left me confused and might be bad. 

 

Good news always first.

Spoiler

 

SO I will start with the good news first. . .Chanmin LL is dead or at least acknowledged as business relationship.  The announcers stated that they liked them as a romantic couple, but now it seems that they are more of a business couple.  The show is heavily scripted (they even said that they were sticking to script).  So, this appears that SBS has sanctioned the end of Chanmin as being a real romantic couple.  Also, YSC did ask JSM about her past award with LKS.  YSC asked her, out of everyone in Running Man who would she want to get best couple with and she said him because they worked hard this year.   If JSM really had feelings for YSC, then she would not have added the last part about it being work, and would have just left it at she picked him.  When the MC said, that if they are going for Best Couple they should stand closer YSC said no because of social distance protocols and getting in trouble.  This is probably true but they are both making it clear that what they have is work/friendship. 

 

They do a greeting then they start to gently heckle each other. lol  JSM starts it. 

 

So I included the image below because it is obvious that she is not looking at the camera and at the running man table. Delulu mind says KJK. haha

 

One of the hosts asks the question below and I have included the response. 

 

They cut to KJK when they said this and he was nodding his head up and down in agreement with the statement that they are working. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Now for the confusing/bad . . . to be fair I got about two hours of sleep last night (unrelated to Kookmin haha) so my thoughts and concerns could be lack of sleep induced.  However, I like hearing people's thoughts on this forum because we discuss things calmly and maturely. 

 

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Now for the bad news. . .they (MUD, SBS, and Jessi's show) are trying to push KJK and Jessie together.  Let me first say, that I am fan of both of them and they do have really good chemistry together.  Secondly, I just want KJK to be happy and I am thrilled about him winning the Grand Award!!  This is what happened at the award show. 

 

 

So, this has me a little confused because I am not sure if this is another LL or something else/maybe real.

 

Jessi is very honest/blunt person and so is KJK, which I like about both of them.  They have both said really wonderful things about the other (MUD and Jessi's show Ep 39) and according to them both they are single.  Why I am confused is because they do get along so well and KJK laughs hard and seems genuinely happy when he is around Jessi.  It would be hypocritical of me to say that it means something when it is with JSM and then not to acknowledge it when I see it with others like Jessi. JSM and Jessi are the only two women that I have seen him react this way.  Other people that he has had a LL with he does not seem this happy.  Yes, I know that he and JSM are not a LL, but as of right now neither is he and Jessi.  

 

 What I will say, is that KJK is more comfortable with skinship with JSM on TV than he is with Jessi.  Also, I am not sure that this is not an attempt at a LL.  The problem HJY is currently facing with accusations of plagiarism has meant that she has been missing from MUD (TBH I did not watch the episode last week).  So, I am wondering if they are trying to give him another LL for MUD because Jessi has been a guest and appeared on the show.   In both instances, she drew a line saying that they wouldn't work, and it seems like she is doing that here as well.  

 

This brings me to my final and most worried thought.  I have assumed that KJK and JSM are dating.  However, this makes me question that because we all know that JSM and Jessi are friends.  I could never see Jessi being okay with a LL or really flirting with KJK, if she knew that he was with someone (particularly JSM).  It would just be hella weird/awkward.  I know that in the past he has had a LL while dating other people irl.  At least the LL with SJH has been around for a long time so there must have been some overlap (please correct me if I am wrong).  This idea of KJK being in a LL with a friend of the girl that he is dating would just take the bizarreness of the Kshow biz to a level I could never imagine, but I am also new to all of this.  

 

So, I am basically laying out all my thoughts because I want help from the collective here.  Was this an attempt to shut down rumors of them together or to start floating the idea of them together?  If they are pushing them together, then is this a real thing or LL.  If it is a LL, then would KJK be okay pursuing another woman on TV while dating her friend (feel like the answer is no to the last part of this question)?

 

Let me be clear, I am not jumping ship! I just need other people's thoughts because I don't know if I am missing something or if this would be common practice in Kbiz.  The worst thing that will happen for me as a Kookmin shipper is that I have to revise my opinion on their dating status. Instead of saying that they are dating, I would just say that they have the potential to date (which I am okay with).  However, I am not okay with turning a blind eye and acting like I don't see what is happening between Jessi and KJK.  I still think that JSM and KJK are the best match!!  

 

 

If I am awake in a couple of hours when the subs for running man are up, then I will try and get those Kookmin interactions up.   If I don't, well, then I am sleeping haha.  

[kyoko22]

@Catch-22 I love Jessi because of her friendship with Somin. I don't know why MUD push Jessi to JK so hard but from JK's side, he already said clearly during tarot card reading, it is not Jessi when Tak Jae Hoon pressured him. So obvious during that segment, JK was thinking about somebody. And lets not forget, there is 'her' that he always think when he goes to beautiful place (MUD 198). And this is also before Jessi.

 

And like usual, this sorta LL is pushed by everyone but him. Jessi said she has crush on him. Then Tak Jae Hoon and Lee Sang Min pressured him, Mobidic PD gave questions directing to this 'LL'. Then Seo Jang Hoon asked on stage, live. Always everyone but him. And after observing him, though he reluctant with the LL, he didn't say no directly to the lady's face (except JH). He didn't want to hurt the lady's feeling. So he just laugh.

 

Also JK laugh hard because of Jessi is not weird because he and Jessi are friend for a while already. But to know who is his favourite among two, ep 514 in perfect episode to watch. Jessi came as a guest but JK and Somin stick together during opening and closing though they were in different team. Though Jessi danced Nunu Nana at the front, JK more curious on Somin who tried to immitate Jessi's dance beside him.

[RumbleMinKook]

From my perspective it’s a new loveline that’s currently being pushed by SBS because their previous popular KJK loveline (jinkook) can’t continue anymore due to HJY’s current situation. Overall I don’t think it’s that big of a deal tbh.

[Catch-22]

@kyoko22Thank you!!  An hour nap and waking up to your words helped me.  It is funny how much you forget when you are sleep deprived.  I had forgotten most of what you had mentioned and in particular this below.  

1 hour ago, kyoko22 said:

lets not forget, there is 'her' that he always think when he goes to beautiful place (MUD 198). And this is also before Jessi.

 

Looking at the awards show now, it is really all good news (KJK's well deserved award and officially Chanmin is Business Only ).   They can push a LL but that doesn't mean anything .

It is just annoying because I want KJK to be happy, and as he has said over and over he wants something to happen naturally.  However, these shows always try to push him into LL.  I am off to get screen shots of the subbed RM episode this week!