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12 hours ago, Shia Has said:

Hi, I suggest these episodes:

 

372 - Banter about love ft Somin the Love Prosecutor

425 - Jong Kook's eyes when he smiles / "it's hard to become Jong Kook's wife" 

488 - KJK observed Somin while she was snow watching and then got hit by the opening door
486 - inflatable tennis game

 

Of course the classics are the Tofu episode (387) and Kookmin Clan episode (434). 

 

I also suggest to watch Kookminclan RunningMan's videos in YT and then read the discussions under the comment section. A lot of good quality discussions and ideas have been brought up there and adds a lot of insight into KJK and Somin as individuals. 

Regarding the MUD tarot card reading, I have to say that Somin checks a lot of boxes there:

 

✔️ Intelligent - these attributes are also a part of Somin. She's well-read and she even published her own poetry. Also, whoever reads her interviews can see that she's not just someone who knows a lot but also someone who has accumulated wisdom and varied interests. 

✔️High compatibility with KJK - a previous RM episode with Tarot reading says that Kookmin has high compatibility

✔️ Associated with red or pink - how many times have we referenced red and pink to Somin? :lol:

 

(other commenters under the YT vid says that one other criterion is the person can control KJK. For me, Somin also fits that. She does not "control" KJK like a master to a slave, rather she tends to control KJK's attention and temper. KJK seems a lot happier when she's around.)

 

So yeah, I think Somin is a realistic/plausible candidate if we are going for the things being revealed in the recent MUD tarot card reading.

 

:rickroll:

 

 

 

I have watch most of the episodes you recommended. but still, thank you!

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Edit: better quality...      

That awkward moment when you got caught staring at your "crush" and now you have to pretend like you're looking at someone else.   

Once again  . . . sub spoilers.   I won't be able to do this every weekend, but I just had to share (so enjoy the Kookmin moments).  Besides,  these sub spoilers are never as good as watching the epis

9 hours ago, kyoko22 said:

This point! The mature me try to restrain myself from arguing with the commenters about this. And it's hard :joy:. With Somin, JK naturally let her be in control (most of the time) and he just enjoying himself. Example, ep 488 when JK, Somin and SC were in a group. Somin naturally became bossy among the three and he let her. Not because he suddenly became weak or helpless over the control. From what I see, it is a way for him to indulge her. Because he can be stern to her when he have to. 

Somin has all the criterias. I also read some of the comments and one acc said somin can't control jongkook. Yeah, she can't control jongkook the way others do. But she definitely can control jk without using force at all. Like jk does unusual things for, and, because of somin. 

 

Somin can control his time. 

Somin was once live on IG and kjk keeps on commenting on her live even if its his work-out time. 

 

Somin can control his attention. We all know this, though. Staring at her, focusing at her, etc. 

 

Somin can make kjk do aegyo. 

There's one episode where they are in a car and somin mentioned about aegyo. She then asked jk to do it and he did it. If I remembered correctly, he did it twice. 

 

There's also an episode where somin saw a car?? and she told jk to wink and kjk unconsciously winked. 

 

She can definitely control kjk but not in a way kjk will feel uncomfortable. 

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I'm reading all of your past posts in here. I'm already at page 67. It's really fun to read all of your previous assumptions about kookmin. I wonder where are the accounts used to post in here before? I mean I see a few of them who are still active but I haven't seen some of them. 

 

Anyway, still have 200+ pages more. goodluck to me ㅋㅋㅋ

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2 hours ago, 9012 said:

I'm reading all of your past posts in here. I'm already at page 67. It's really fun to read all of your previous assumptions about kookmin. I wonder where are the accounts used to post in here before? I mean I see a few of them who are still active but I haven't seen some of them. 

 

Anyway, still have 200+ pages more. goodluck to me ㅋㅋㅋ

 

I was taking a look too. There are many "suspicious" actions between KJK and JSM in those episodes.

 

funny.. XD

 

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14 hours ago, MandelBrot said:

 

I was taking a look too. There are many "suspicious" actions between KJK and JSM in those episodes.

 

funny.. XD

 

 

Coincidentally, I actually watched this episode again a few days ago because I want to watch this part (the GIF you attached here) I keep on replying that part because I miss that kind of interaction... and yes the whole episode is so suspicious :ph34r: 

 

I miss them so bad :cries:

I hope this is actually a good thing that they kind of getting lowkey because there's really something :tears: 

 

@MandelBrot thank you also for posting GIFs every Sunday, always looking forward to it!! It makes my kookmin heart alive lol

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Well we got kookmin this week and some interesting things.  On Sundays I always wish I knew more Korean. haha  Here are eng sub for kookmin moments.  

 

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So in this game someone gives a complement and the other people on the team have to guess if it is about them.  If they get it right they get two points. If they get it wrong then they lose one point.  YSC goes first and his first clue leads JSM to think it is about her.  What I find hilarious is that it is KJK that feels the need to say something.  You are not on their team and you don't need to talk up JSM or the LL.  We all know (particularly since last week with LKS saying the LL is for work) that the LL is not true.  I just think that KJK likes to interact with JSM and say nice things about her. 


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They are suppose to turn in money and whatever the group turns in doubles.  This is what KJK's advice to JSM was (I will add that he was not wrong to give this advice), the sub said it was to encourage betrayal, but another way to look at it is he is encouraging her to protect herself.  KJK knows that the other members will betray her.  Again, JSM is not on your team why are you looking out for her.  I get that they are friends, but this is still weird because he doesn't offer up the advice to other people.  In this show, people betray each other all the time.

 

Speaking of, KJK does betray JSM in this episode, but there is something really fishy about it (I will get to this later).  Some kookmin shippers might get upset by this betrayal by KJK because they think that a lack of betrayal shows how much KJK likes JSM (maybe once but not for the last 3-4 months).  Betraying JSM is not proof that maybe he is not interested.   I am not surprised that KJK betrayed JSM.   What should surprises kookmin shippers is that it rarely ever happens and even when it does JSM still seems surprised by it.  They are close and as much as he protects her or compliments her they have a job to do.


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TBH, I have no idea who is saying what below.  I think it is LKS that is against JSM joining but again not sure. 
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So, this is interesting KJK is the one that has access to the trunk which is the person that gets the hidden mission to betray a teammate.  


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KJK is the one that should betray and rip off a name tag, but instead he gives the mission to LKS to complete.  This is where the betrayal starts to get weird/fishy.  He could just rip off JSMs nametag but instead he has LKS do it?  Maybe, he doesn't really have it in him to outright betray her?  haha

 

 

They made the promise not to betray in the car (at least that is what JSM thought but did not know KJK had snuck the secret mission to LKS). 

 


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I love that her panicked or reaction to danger is to invoke KJK and that she is going to tell on him to KJK. lol  He really is her protector! Does anyone else get flashbacks to her running away from LKS in the snow and tries to hide behind KJK to protect her?

 


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Where did that money come from?  She did not have enough to escape earlier in the episode.  She was asking Eugene to borrow money but did not get any.  So, someone had to have given it to her but they never show us who. 
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This is KJK talking to her and this part made think . . . that they actually had met in secret.   Why, would you say something like that?  It reminds me of when someone is guilty and they aren't good at lying. 


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Look at his face above.  He is so happy for her and with himself. haha


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KJK is someone that has the power to protect people from penalties. 

 

 

 

 

 

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@Catch-22 Have been refreshing this page several times, to see if you write your analysis :). The part that SC need to describe the person he pick is really interesting. SC said the person has lots of charm and Somin readily admitted it is was her. What I want to highlight is not her admission but JK's agreeing to that statement. Some might see that he tried to hype up the chanmin LL. But that is not what I see. He openly admit that Somin has lots of charm. It means, Somin's characters or things that Somin did are pleasant to his eyes and he sees them as charming. Indirectly, he also complimented her straight to her face. For me,this kind of compliment is very meaningful.

 

And 'I won't let you receive a penalty...' Be still my heart :wub:. He declared his protectiveness to her and Bopil is so kind to include this in this episode.

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2 hours ago, kyoko22 said:

 Some might see that he tried to hype up the chanmin LL. But that is not what I see. He openly admit that Somin has lots of charm. It means, Somin's characters or things that Somin did are pleasent to his eyes and he sees them as charming. Indirectly, he also complimented her straight to her face. For me,this kind of compliment is very meaningful.

 

And 'I won't let you receive a penalty...' Be still my heart :wub:. He declared his protectiveness to her and Bopil is so kind to include this in this episode.

Thanks!  I so agree with you about his indirect compliments and that he is very protective of her (wouldn't rip off her tag even when it was his mission).  He was so sweet when he said that about the penalty and the look he gave JSM:fullofhearts:

As I mentioned, I think something happened behind the scenes (that KJK did) that allowed for her not to receive the penalty (although I only have his words to support that hunch).   I am looking forward to next week, and I hope they have another fortune teller episode. 

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Somin seems to be lowkey in this episode. I don't know if she's tired or sick. Nevertheless, there are kookmin moments that really made my heart flutter. 

 

1. During the 'dangerous outside the blanket' game, it is only somin's turn when he suddenly stood up and came near her. Then what did he say? "you'll catch a cold." Not really the direct line but that's the context of what jk said. 

 

2. Somin escaped and I don't know how. We all know that she doesn't have enough money. But what bothered me more is what jk said that he will not let her receive penalty. I mean, how?? The winners were not given some sort of a right to save a member. Only those who were in prison are the candidates for the penalty. If you'll add what jongkook said to somin and how somin escaped, there's a big chance that kjk gave her some money. I don't know if it's because of the guilt he felt because of betraying her.

 

But whatever the reason is, it just means that he couldn't stay still whenever it's about somin. 

10 hours ago, Catch-22 said:

Well we got kookmin this week and some interesting things.  On Sundays I always wish I knew more Korean. haha  Here are eng sub for kookmin moments.  

 

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So in this game someone gives a complement and the other people on the team have to guess if it is about them.  If they get it right they get two points. If they get it wrong then they lose one point.  YSC goes first and his first clue leads JSM to think it is about her.  What I find hilarious is that it is KJK that feels the need to say something.  You are not on their team and you don't need to talk up JSM or the LL.  We all know (particularly since last week with LKS saying the LL is for work) that the LL is not true.  I just think that KJK likes to interact with JSM and say nice things about her. 

 

They are suppose to turn in money and whatever the group turns in doubles.  This is what KJK's advice to JSM was (I will add that he was not wrong to give this advice), the sub said it was to encourage betrayal, but another way to look at it is he is encouraging her to protect herself.  KJK knows that the other members will betray her.  Again, JSM is not on your team why are you looking out for her.  I get that they are friends, but this is still weird because he doesn't offer up the advice to other people.  In this show, people betray each other all the time.

 

Speaking of, KJK does betray JSM in this episode, but there is something really fishy about it (I will get to this later).  Some kookmin shippers might get upset by this betrayal by KJK because they think that a lack of betrayal shows how much KJK likes JSM (maybe once but not for the last 3-4 months).  Betraying JSM is not proof that maybe he is not interested.   I am not surprised that KJK betrayed JSM.   What should surprises kookmin shippers is that it rarely ever happens and even when it does JSM still seems surprised by it.  They are close and as much as he protects her or compliments her they have a job to do.

 

TBH, I have no idea who is saying what below.  I think it is LKS that is against JSM joining but again not sure. 
 

So, this is interesting KJK is the one that has access to the trunk which is the person that gets the hidden mission to betray a teammate.  

 

KJK is the one that should betray and rip off a name tag, but instead he gives the mission to LKS to complete.  This is where the betrayal starts to get weird/fishy.  He could just rip off JSMs nametag but instead he has LKS do it?  Maybe, he doesn't really have it in him to outright betray her?  haha

 

They made the promise not to betray in the car (at least that is what JSM thought but did not know KJK had snuck the secret mission to LKS).

I love that her panicked or reaction to danger is to invoke KJK and that she is going to tell on him to KJK. lol  He really is her protector! Does anyone else get flashbacks to her running away from LKS in the snow and tries to hide behind KJK to protect her

 

Where did that money come from?  She did not have enough to escape earlier in the episode.  She was asking Eugene to borrow money but did not get any.  So, someone had to have given it to her but they never show us who. 
 

This is KJK talking to her and this part made think . . . that they actually had met in secret.   Why, would you say something like that?  It reminds me of when someone is guilty and they aren't good at lying. 

 

Look at his face above.  He is so happy for her and with himself. haha

 

KJK is someone that has the power to protect people from penalties.

 

It is kjk who were against in the idea of somin joining their team. Maybe because somin always betray and then he's already with kwangsoo. ㅋㅋㅋ also, I don't know why he gave the mission to kwangsoo when he can just rip somin's nametag on his own. He doesn't need anyone assitance to do that and somin doesn't know anything about it so it will be easier. I don't know if it's just my delulu but I'm also thinking that he doesn't want to do it himself because for sure, Somin will be really upset with him. 

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While we are at this, he already showed his protective side (regarding her punishment) since early this year. 

 

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Ep 495: The person who's with the heaviest rice cake bag will be punished. And it was a competition between Somin and LKS, the bottom two. But while weighting the bag, JK was so involved, commenting this and that as if the bag was his (It was Somin's in picture above)

 

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Ep 495: Somin lost. Her punishment was water slap. Park Mi Sun 'accidentally' missed her target and threw the water to LKS. JK consoled Park Misun for her 'mistake'. You should hear how insincere JK's tone here. Somehow he managed to persuade Park Misun to throw the water to LKS and protect Somin.

 

 

518.jpg Ep 518: Same situation as ep 495. It was Somin who need to face the punishment and again, JK could not stop himself from being noisy, commenting this and that. "It's pretty visible." hinting that is is easy to differentiate between water sponge and ink sponge. He concerned. But Somin is Somin. She failed :joy:.

 

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Ep 524: It broke his heart a bit seeing Somin worked so hard to find ballot papers and whistles when the end result is still her who will get the penalty. 

 

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Ep 524: Along the episode, he never became a target to either Somin or JH. But somehow, he actively looking for the ballot paper. After seeing her worked so hard, as if he's going to use the ballot paper that he found to vote on Somin. 

 

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Ep 531: "I told you I won't let you receive a penalty". What a nice declaration. And for Somin to use JK's name to threaten LKS when he ripped Somin's name tag is a justification that JK indeed protectives of her. Not sure whether anyone notice this. Sometimes, when Somin being stubborn or headstrong against LKS or YSC, both of them will complain about this to JK. :joy: 

 

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10 minutes ago, kyoko22 said:

Ep 531: "I told you I won't let you receive a penalty". What a nice declaration. And for Somin to use JK's name to threaten LKS when he ripped Somin's name tag is a justification that JK indeed protectives of her. Not sure whether anyone notice this. Sometimes, when Somin being stubborn or headstrong against LKS or YSC, both of them will complaint about this to JK. :joy: 

and he looks so proud when somin didn't receive penalty like he's proud of what he did and very satisfied of the outcome. 

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i like how KJK protect JSM but if keeps happening i think it will make not fair for some people.
maybe some people will think "why KJK always protect JSM. its just  variaty show and you must accept if get punish"

 

I'm a fan of RM and I love Kookmin.

My personal opinion as of kookmin fan is i like how KJK protect JSM and interaction between them but as RM fan if KJK always help JSM it will ruin the show itself because people watch RM not watch kookmin.

 

sorry if my english is bad

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47 minutes ago, Nerellia said:

i like how KJK protect JSM but if keeps happening i think it will make not fair for some people.
maybe some people will think "why KJK always protect JSM. its just  variaty show and you must accept if get punish"

 

I'm a fan of RM and I love Kookmin.

My personal opinion as of kookmin fan is i like how KJK protect JSM and interaction between them but as RM fan if KJK always help JSM it will ruin the show itself because people watch RM not watch kookmin.

 

sorry if my english is bad

It’s a show and no action of any of the cast will make such a huge impact as to make others feel unfair/ruin the show consciously. They know how, what and when to do things to collectively ensure keeping the show as a priority and we ought to know as well. In fact, instead of ruining the show, for a lot of us, we look forward to the show more  because of the banters kjk oppa shares with somin. 

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23 hours ago, Nerellia said:

i like how KJK protect JSM but if keeps happening i think it will make not fair for some people.
maybe some people will think "why KJK always protect JSM. its just  variaty show and you must accept if get punish".

Not gonna happen.

1. Somin didn't make a habit to ask for his help or rely on him. You always see Somin goes everywhere, so it is hard for him to always protect her. Which also easy for her to be a target by her oppas and in the end she will receive the penalty.

2. Looking from this episode, even he goes extra mile to help her, most probably PD will not include the process. Just like it is a big mistery how he gave her money to escape the prison in this ep. So for most viewers they will just ignore what he said since there is no evidence. We noticed only because we are kookmin fans and we pay extra attention to them.

 

Edit: I wondered why he didn't want Somin to be in his team and why he decided to rip Somin's nametag, not KS. Suddenly I realised. Somin and KS are betrayers. It is hard enough to handle one, let alone two. Maybe that is why he didn't want to have Somin in his team since it will cause him headache. He can't choose Somin over KS since it was KS who found the key. He was the one who attached to KS. As for why he chose to rip Somin's nametag? Because of his loyalty and upright character. Even so, he couldn't bear to rip her nametag himself and let KS to do it  

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3 hours ago, Nerellia said:

i like how KJK protect JSM but if keeps happening i think it will make not fair for some people.
maybe some people will think "why KJK always protect JSM. its just  variaty show and you must accept if get punish"

 

I'm a fan of RM and I love Kookmin.

My personal opinion as of kookmin fan is i like how KJK protect JSM and interaction between them but as RM fan if KJK always help JSM it will ruin the show itself because people watch RM not watch kookmin.

 

sorry if my english is bad

How can a KookMin shipper have “SpartAce” mindset? 
 

Dude- I myself am watching Runningman for Kookmin. And how can Jongkook’s protection ruin the show?

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8 hours ago, Nerellia said:

i like how KJK protect JSM but if keeps happening i think it will make not fair for some people.
maybe some people will think "why KJK always protect JSM. its just  variaty show and you must accept if get punish"

 

I'm a fan of RM and I love Kookmin.

My personal opinion as of kookmin fan is i like how KJK protect JSM and interaction between them but as RM fan if KJK always help JSM it will ruin the show itself because people watch RM not watch kookmin.

 

sorry if my english is bad

I understand where you are coming from. From my knowledge it's only been a few times he's 'protected' her from receiving punishments. I'm a fan of Somin first before RM and have seen her get the punishment so many times. The only difference now is that KJK chooses not to afflict pain on her if he's involved in her punishment or warns her about getting the punishment (but she never listens lol). And from this episode he made it clear his intention s and loyalty which I'm sure Somin will remember in future episodes.

 

Maybe it's time for Somin to catch a break from penalties? We are all familiar with the RM penalty crew: YJS, JSJ, LKS, Somin. They are easier targets because they are the most entertaining when it comes to punishments.

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