[Drama 2019] V.I.P, 브이아이피

[marinated_lemon]

@etelou1

Whatever the reason is, adultery cannot be justified. We might understand how it came to be, but to say that the adultery is right would be wrong. 

 

Yes, the affair should approximately happened around the time of his father funeral. At least the beginning of it. Remember that he started feel pity for her from day one, then they bumped in with each other a few times, and in these times, he witnessed how VP treated her, how she lived her life, how gentle she is, how attentive she is towards other people, and how people just pushed her around because she seemed nice, etc. Little by little, it grows, I guess.

On the other hand, being cared for by SJ, OYR start to grow feelings for him too. She considered him knight in shining armor who keeps saving her, and he considered her a damsel in distress, or perhaps he even sees her like himself, or his mother, who lived poorly all these years.

I read a book that says the more you takes care of someone, the more you love that someone. I guess this might be the case here. 

but on top of that, there is more: on funeral day, SJ told OYR the truth about his family, and she understood especially because she is in exactly the same fate: being child of a mistress. Understanding and accepting his origin as the son of a mistress is something that his wife cannot do (but it is also something that he probably direly need).

 

this is quite unfair, for the wife, of course...because at that time, JS didnt know that SJ has such secret...because all these times, SJ had been telling her that his dad died already.

 

Slapping scene! Yes! But I actually prefer JS to pull out all of OYR hair, push her off a cliff or pull out her teeth...you know, something embarrasing and crippling for very long time. But hey, I dont think it fits the tone of the drama. Haha.

[Pam_Van Fossen]

1 hour ago, marinated_lemon said:

Slapping scene! Yes! But I actually prefer JS to pull out all of OYR hair, push her off a cliff or pull out her teeth...you know, something embarrasing and crippling for very long time. But hey, I dont think it fits the tone of the drama. Haha

You are hilarious!  I really want to see how JS handles all of this.  The pain of an affair and divorce is heartbreaking and I really want SJ and Yuri to at least suffer for what they have done to JS.  I hope we at least have a happy ending for her sake.

[imgreatgal]

When something bad happens we tend to blame others before looking into ourselves. In this incase JungSun needs to step back and examine her marriage instead of declaring an all out war against her husband.

 

Indeed JungSun has deep wounds, the desertion by her mother and her miscarriage but SungJun has always been the giver and protector. Has JungSun ever question why her mother left her father? Her mother has always felt uncomfortable around her father's family. They looked down on her. It's believed she left at some point because she couldn't take it anymore. I guessed JungSun never understood or didn't want to understand her mother's explanation. In their 10 years of marriage has JungSun ever asked SungJun or his mom about his father. Did they ever visit his grave or hold prayers on anniversary of his death? I always believe when you marry someone you marry their family too. Many things will revolve around them, death, birthdays, anniversary,  weddings. His/her character is shaped by people around him/her. Marriage is a two way thing it's gets complicated over time because of life many challenges. One needs to give and take, overlook flaws. I think in all this, JungSun has always been on the receiving end. Remember when SungJun said about ' needing her to hold  onto him now' damn he crying out to her.

[maribella]

I watched episodes 1 to 7 and I did not get the impression of YR being gentle and attentive. More like she was inexperienced at her job and JS was taking care of her, at least at work. Lucky twit, the husband takes care of her at night too. Many of us thought that she was the VP's mistress, the way she met him at a hotel dressed un-daughter-like.

 

I think the writer has been misleading us with clues that now seemed incongruous. Likewise, HA and MN's stories have been used for the other two guesses and now left on the back burners.

 

If the writer brings them back together, there has to be a time leap and an overseas stint. Even if JS admits to being equally responsible for the husband to cheat on her ( a huge if)  I find it difficult to see how a good looking, successful career woman with a wealthy dad and being in a childless marriage would say 'I want you back ' to the husband. She would not have wanted to move out of the house from beginning. I predicted a divorce when the mistress was identified, and I think I was right.

 

 

 

[DL Wetherill]

Oh my goodness this drama is stressing me out lol. I really want to slap Yuri, not as helpless an innocent as she is trying to come off. She’s seen the “good life” and she doesn’t appear to care who she has to go over to get it.

Hoping the Vice President’s brother and the VP’s wife throw a “monkey wrench” into his plans.

I still think there is a “roller coaster ride” ahead in the upcoming episodes with many more shockers to be revealed. 
I’m hoping Daniel from Trifone finds out what’s going on and comes in strong to help JS. Can’t wait till Tuesday morning when the episode with English Subtitles gets released in the meantime where is my Blood Pressure medicine

 

[wannammj]

I want to rewatch the drama (thats what i usually do with other drama while waiting new episode) but cant do so.. It heart wrecking to watch JS sadness. 

 

I do think their marriage is happy enough, JS seem content with what she has in earlier episode. She open up, taklk to her husband alot.. But SJ personality who introverts, he might not as open as JS.. I do believe if after the funeral, SJ not saw YR, he will open up to JS regarding his father eventually. I despise he become VP personal assistant, doing personal errands, just so that he get higher position.. I'm not working in corporate world, so it actually against my ethics. 

[lebeaucouple]

In life, when we are in a situation related to our career or relationship, before we are giving up, think of why we are holding on for so long, are there something that still holding us back, and what are they, can it be resolved, or will there be better options for us? 

 

From this drama, i can see the possibility of both parties to cling on the relationship even though SJ asked for a divorce but the wife said she would be the one who decide when to call for a quit. I am sure the writer would reveal more of their past events and their underlying cause of their marriage. If this is a pre-produced drama, I really hope it would be a good wrap up ending.

In my opinion, there are three most poisonous elements in the relationship :
1.Trust is one of the most important factors in any relationship. If your significant other has a hard time trusting you or vice versa, you will find it difficult to connect on any level.  

2. Having "Cold war" with your spouse for too long is another dangerous element to any relationship as it will lead to separation eventually if lack of open communication as well as the initiative come from one party.

 

3. Keep blaming on others when confrontation....

To reconnect and gaining trust is forgiveness. It's always Easy to say than done. The powerful word of "forgiven"....but how many of us can do so when we face the same problem. My sister could do so when she found out the affair, while another sister chose to divorce (a complex issue) and now live a happy life. There is no right or wrong when people making their decision because the choice of life is theirs. We don't determine their journey to their destination they want. Some women choose to stay with their dignity, some prefer compromise and forgiven.

 

One greatest lesson that i learnt from my sister, we are here to practise our homework in our entire lifetime whether we like it or not, to improve ourselves and do self-reflection constantly. The "homework" is a simple word that anyone including the children can remember that, but how many of us as an adult can practise that. This will be part of our learning process. Just my sharing, have a good weekends ahead 

[KY L]

32 minutes ago, lebeaucouple said:

One greatest lesson that i learnt from my sister, we are here to practise our homework in our entire lifetime whether we like it or not, to improve ourselves and do self-reflection constantly.

 

Absolutely. Marriage takes work and both spouses have to take an active part in growing and developing the relationship. I respect those who have enough generosity and grace to forgive and give their spouse a second chance. I equally respect those who have the courage to walk away and live a happier life on their own. It really does depend on the couple.

 

For SJ, I don't think he's beyond forgiveness, he's shown remorse and regret, and it looks like he treasures JS, he just didn't know how to love her, or perhaps love anyone because of his upbringing. He's been carrying his inferiority complex all his life, and he probably feels it even more inferior next to JS, someone who's so capable and perceived higher in the social ladder. I can understand why he wanted to hide his flaws from his seemingly perfect wife, I just hate that he made the choice to cheat instead of working things out with his spouse and breaking her trust.

 

And It's easy to blame the offender since we've been seeing the story unraveled through JS's perspective. I must admit the drama does a good job at portraying SJ as a very frustrating individual so my sympathy lies with JS, the person who seemingly has been wronged. But watching back, I can also see the miscarriage caused a riffed earlier in their marriage as well, that's why I think the affair is a symptom of larger marital issues.

 

JS's response to the affair is also understandable. If having a cold war is the only way she can get through him lying to her, then that's what she needed to do. Just note that he still hadn't come clean to her even when she asked, so the cold war is the only she CAN do besides telling on him.

 

Now that the affair is out in the open - somewhat - they can at least resolve this with some truth and transparency in place. No cheater ever deserves a second chance, but the choice is up to JS, and when given a second chance, it's a beautiful opportunity to learn, grow and heal from the past for the both of them.

[SyH]

VIP Cast Shows Off Perfect Teamwork And Fun Atmosphere In Behind-The-Scenes Photos

Dec 7, 2019

by S. Park

 

The cast of “VIP” is all smiles in the latest set of behind-the-scenes photos!

 

The SBS series has gained popularity as an exciting office melodrama filled with plot twists. Unlike the thrilling storyline of the drama, the cast revealed how much they laugh when the cameras aren’t rolling.

 

In the drama, Jang Na Ra portrays charismatic female lead Na Jung Sun who finds out about her husband’s affair. In contrast to her fierce role, the actress brightens up the set with her lovely smile and helps liven up the atmosphere. Her on-screen husband Lee Sang Yoon hangs out with the actors and staff between takes and sets a cheerful mood.

 

Lee Chung Ha has won viewers over with her “girl crush” character, but she shows off her cuteness on set. Unlike her working mom character who is often crying in “VIP,” Kwak Sung Yeon only smiles as she’s surrounded by fellow co-stars on set.

 

Pyo Ye Jin shocked viewers after she was revealed as Lee Sang Yoon’s mistress. In the behind-the-scenes photos, the actress turned into the cute youngest member of the cast.

The department team’s No. 1 troublemaker Shin Jae Ha used his wit to make his co-stars burst into laughter and proved himself as the mascot of “VIP.”

 

read more: https://www.soompi.com/article/1369994wpp/vip-cast-shows-off-perfect-teamwork-and-fun-atmosphere-in-behind-the-scenes-photos

[DL Wetherill]

All of a sudden I’m wondering what part Mr Ma and his obviously (but unknown to the rest of the team) family and their connections will factor into the plot. What does anyone else think?

[Takingthehighroad]

I love this thread for all the different views shared. I'm in awe of you generous, kind, forgiving people; wish I could be that way but I'm not. I've discovered while watching this drama that I have a vicious streak. And here I always thought I was just about perfect. Oh well.

 

I think this drama shows how hard it is to have a career & a family. Imagine what you think is great home-life - nice home, great husband, financial stability, great career. You even work with your husband. What could be better than that? Then BAM! ZONK! (Batman/Robin talk) You learn that what you thought was so wonderful wasn't wonderful at all - it wasn't real - it had all been a lie. That great, caring, protective husband of yours was not great or caring or protective - except with another woman. I wonder did SJ ever really comfort JS? Or did he just sit around with that bland, noncommittal (hang-dog) expression? But then again, that expression probably looks like passion & love to Yuri. And Yuri's perpetual wide-eyed injured look - is that her look of love & passion, too? I think those two (SJ/YR) make a great couple; they can sit around in their love-nest & cry & whimper together.

[maribella]

48 minutes ago, Takingthehighroad said:

I love this thread for all the different views shared. I'm in awe of you generous, kind, forgiving people; wish I could be that way but I'm not. I've discovered while watching this drama that I have a vicious streak. And here I always thought I was just about perfect. Oh well.

 

I think this drama shows how hard it is to have a career & a family. Imagine what you think is great home-life - nice home, great husband, financial stability, great career. You even work with your husband. What could be better than that? Then BAM! ZONK! (Batman/Robin talk) You learn that what you thought was so wonderful wasn't wonderful at all - it wasn't real - it had all been a lie. That great, caring, protective husband of yours was not great or caring or protective - except with another woman. I wonder did SJ ever really comfort JS? Or did he just sit around with that bland, noncommittal (hang-dog) expression? But then again, that expression probably looks like passion & love to Yuri. And Yuri's perpetual wide-eyed injured look - is that her look of love & passion, too? I think those two (SJ/YR) make a great couple; they can sit around in their love-nest & cry & whimper together.

 that Batman and Robin talk is so cool. 
 

They make a great couple, one with the uncomprehending looks. 
 

We can start the JS for CEO group... kick out those sleazebags, father, daughter and future son in law.
 

[philosophie]

1 hour ago, Takingthehighroad said:

I love this thread for all the different views shared. I'm in awe of you generous, kind, forgiving people; wish I could be that way but I'm not. I've discovered while watching this drama that I have a vicious streak. And here I always thought I was just about perfect. Oh well.

 

I think this drama shows how hard it is to have a career & a family. Imagine what you think is great home-life - nice home, great husband, financial stability, great career. You even work with your husband. What could be better than that? Then BAM! ZONK! (Batman/Robin talk) You learn that what you thought was so wonderful wasn't wonderful at all - it wasn't real - it had all been a lie. That great, caring, protective husband of yours was not great or caring or protective - except with another woman. I wonder did SJ ever really comfort JS? Or did he just sit around with that bland, noncommittal (hang-dog) expression? But then again, that expression probably looks like passion & love to Yuri. And Yuri's perpetual wide-eyed injured look - is that her look of love & passion, too? I think those two (SJ/YR) make a great couple; they can sit around in their love-nest & cry & whimper together.

I even wonder if her promotion wasn’t real in a sense. Like we keep hearing it should have been her coworker and maybe all this time it should have been her but SJ felt guilty and told his boss to promote her in exchange for helping him with YR.

[LSYfan]

 

Jang Nara Comforts A Distressed Oh Ah Rin In “VIP”

Dec 7, 2019

by L. Kim

Jang Nara and Oh Ah Rin reunited in “VIP”!

The two actresses had previously starred in “The Last Empress” together, and their chemistry is still strong in “VIP.”

In “VIP,” Oh Ah Rin plays the role of a neighborhood kid who ends up getting Na Jung Sun (Jang Nara) to buy her ice cream. In the newly released stills, Na Jung Sun gazes at the upset little girl with a motherly gaze. When Na Jung Sun comforts her, she bursts into tears. Despite her beautiful white dress, the little girl looks so gloomy and distressed that viewers are curious about what made her so unhappy.

This scene was filmed in September at a ranch in the county of Hongcheon located in Gangwon Province. The two, who met again four months after their first shoot together in “VIP,” greeted each other warmly and Jang Nara couldn’t take her eyes off of Oh Ah Rin who had grown a lot since then. They closed worked with each other, and when Oh Ah Rin became emotional during the rehearsal, Jang Nara’s eyes grew wet as well. Both producing director (PD) Lee Jung Rim and Jang Nara awed over the child actress’s superb acting skills and smiled affectionately at her.

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While the equipment was getting set up, Jang Nara and Oh Ah Rin talked cozily with each other while holding hands. The moment the cameras started rolling, they immersed into their roles and even amazed the staff with their great teamwork. Even when the cut sign was given, Jang Nara continued to hold Oh Ah Rin and wiped away her tears. When Oh Ah RIn calmed down, Jang Nara brightly smiled at her with a thumbs up.

The production crew praised, “The teamwork of the two actresses Jang Nara and Oh Ah Rin was by far the best. Their great teamwork was greeted with praises on set. The reappearance of the neighborhood kid will make both Na Jung Sun as well as the adults watching them emotional.”

“VIP” airs on Mondays and Tuesdays at 10 p.m. KST.

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[gm4queen]

I love reading all your comments here! Feeling so full of emotions! I think this  series is a great example for relationships, affairs marriage and a lot more! I can't guess what's the ending for the leads but eagerly looking forward to watch how the writer's gonna wrap up the things.... 

 

And thanks a lot @sin hoonsim chingu for the soompi article! I am so waiting for this scene! Jang Nara totally is a great mom for kids!  Wish she finds her true other half soon... 

 

 

[TXviewer]

I am a new comer to this discussion so I may rehash some of what has already been posted.

I think SJ is a lost soul. In the 5-6 months this show covers he has a guilty conscience because of his:

dirty work for VP

affair with girl

lies to wife

illegitimate status

secrets from wife concerning illegitimacy 

Also stress from work as well as the potential loss of a child.

 

Do I think this gives him an excuse to cheat and put girl before wife? absolutely not! But in rewatching earlier episodes he did try to talk to his wife when she first caught him in lies. She locked him out of the room while he wanted to talk.

 

It doesn’t appear that there was much communication in the marriage, but I think he loves his wife and wants to give her a divorce because he can’t stand hurting her more. He wants her to be able to move on from him because he has made such a mess.

 

[Maureen Mckay]

On 12/4/2019 at 1:44 AM, smlinwa said:

I need something light and funny or romantic to dispel my anger from this drama? Any current recommendations? 

Fated to love you.

 

1 hour ago, TXviewer said:

I am a new comer to this discussion so I may rehash some of what has already been posted.

I think SJ is a lost soul. In the 5-6 months this show covers he has a guilty conscience because of his:

dirty work for VP

affair with girl

lies to wife

illegitimate status

secrets from wife concerning illegitimacy 

Also stress from work as well as the potential loss of a child.

 

Do I think this gives him an excuse to cheat and put girl before wife? absolutely not! But in rewatching earlier episodes he did try to talk to his wife when she first caught him in lies. She locked him out of the room while he wanted to talk.

 

It doesn’t appear that there was much communication in the marriage, but I think he loves his wife and wants to give her a divorce because he can’t stand hurting her more. He wants her to be able to move on from him because he has made such a mess.

 

I have to disagree.  She told him about her mother.  He never gave his wife a chance to support and understand him. I think he is calculating.  He asked for the divorce thinking she would agree to it right away, so no scandal. This would allow him to still be promoted and be with YuRi. But she foiled this by saying no. Now exposing this and having proof has him in a very bad spot. Scandal written all over it for him.  I believe he was behind the vp being exposed cuz YuRi iverheard Mi Na taking with that Manager and went straight to LSY. So he knew they were up to something.  So by exposing YuRi, it would give her power and legitimacy, him a promotion and then he asked for the divorce.  He is very calculating.

 

He is so calculating...he was the one that exposed the VP's secret. Why. It would give YR power and legitimacy, him a promotion. Then he asks for a divorce without scandal so he can have it all BUT he miscalculated that JS would say no. Now she has exposed him, has proof and it will be a scandal.  He is a weak and lame character but very calculating.  Please writers, let these few people get publically exposed and get their com up ence and give her and the other 2 women in her department have satisfactory endings. But i really need for the VP, YR and LSY's character to be slammed hard!!!  No happy ending for them.  I am hoping some allies show up to stand up for her such as coworkers, VP's wife!!??  She is mow going to need help and support.

 

On 12/4/2019 at 8:12 AM, maribella said:

@lu09 I have been saying for at least 5 episodes that the actor has the same expression 80% of the time. I saw him in my sister something which was wildly popular but the lead actress was playing the cliched 'woman with the world on her shoulder so she was cold to love'. I liked the actress but watching her having the same sombre expression in the first few episodes turned me off. If this story centres on SJ, I would have left ages ago too.

I do not get the impression that JS expects anything out of the ordinary from  him. Most likely he is jealous of her because as the marketing woman says JS is annoying because she has everything. He moves up his career cleaning up after the VP and he has a good team,  but JS  rises up because she is very good. That little scene with HA followed by the marketing woman's was probably to set up the reason YR and SJ  chose to cheat, using JS as the person they could not be.

 

I blame the sordid affair squarely on SJ and YR. I read about a woman who had a very close friend for 20 years. Her husband used to introduce them as his wife and his mistress. She thought jokingly. At his death, guess what?

 

I disagree that she expected to much from. ?  She said in the 1 ep that all she wanted was their simple life together.  He is a weak man but claculating. His ambition is strong bit he downplays it.  He miscalculated though. He thought he was going to get it all with a quiet divorce but she said no.  I just hope he gets his com up ence along with YR and even the VP.  And gets it GOOD!!!

[TXviewer]

I am still wondering about  role of Hyung Anh. In episode 5 she tells friend after seeing PS, “He’s my last!” In response to friends “Is he your next conquest?”

At least twice she has told JS to leave her husband. Then flash back to first episode when PS is leaving a hotel room in the morning and she getting dressed in a hotel room.

Just trying to stir the pot.

My hope is that his morning meeting was a secret one in the hotel with his boss while they planned bribery and what to do about YR.

 

I have to retract my previous statements about Hyung Ahn. In episode 5 she confronts SJ and tells him to stop before it’s too late.

[Guest]

I might sound crazy  but I have this strange feeling that the twist is that SJ did not have any affair ( physical or emotional) . From watching with subs for eps 9 & 10, a lot of the fessing up alluded to an affair but the impression I get is that he was offering a shoulder to cry on for someone who is in the same predicament as he is ( both being illegitimate children )  . She definitely has a crush on him but all the photos and flashbacks seem rather one sided to me.  If you watch a lot of crime dramas, they often love to have setups like that.  Every conversation or scene is misleading ...

 

But regardless , if you have yet to watch with subs especially of the latest episodes , you should. The conversations reveal more about the state of mind of all the characters here.

 

For me,  the marriage breakdown was not really because of this supposed affair. The "affair" just brought to surface the underlying problems in the marriage .  There were  already some cracks - the disappointment of not having a child ( the miscarriage) seems to have been one of the things that strained the marriage.  Quite telling was what SJ told him at his mother's house about how he has ruined their marriage because it will hurt his mum and her dad - so they have been holding for every else's happiness but their own. And at the end of the day , I think they both need to take some time out to regroup and rediscover what it is that made them fall in love if reconciliation is the route the drama will take . SJ will need to take a step back  instead of allowing bitterness to consume her  ( I can understand her grief and anger now of course) because at the end of the day she will get hurt the most if she goes on a revenge path. It is lose lose all round. 

 

By the way , i like the Hyun A  - Joon Won side love story...initially I thought he was little smarmy but ehhh he turned out to be a pretty decent guy.  And sweet. lol! I ship them 

[maribella]

@triplem you still can't accept that the writer is giving us a lying, cheating, cleaner upper for the main man?
Of course he had an affair, not just a one night stand drunk incident but a continuing adulterous relationship. My guess is YR had sent the note to JS, without that he would still continue. He is not an upstanding man. Look at the errands he did for his boss, that's not his job.

Anyway, if he is really some undercover agent and YR is really his sidekick, I'll change my avatar for a month to some ugly animal. The gracious family thread changed theirs to a fish when they were wrong.

 

p/s I wonder why they had the last empress girl there. Maybe her father is a chaebol widower who is also good looking?