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[Drama 2019] Vagabond, 배가본드

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4 hours ago, cherriesblue said:

in ep 10, Gi said he received orders to kill Haeri.  But I remember Ahn called Gi and said thay Cha and Kim are to be killed.  In fact he called because he wanted the NIS people to be safe, which means including Haeri, right?

 

 

 

In Ep 9 when Min briefed the Back-Up Team, Leader Hwang asked:  "How should I deal with GI & the other agents?"  (Min said: "Get rid of them if they get in the way")

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When NIS Director Tae called Gi - to tell him about the order is to kill the co-pilot & DG,   Gi asked: "Who gave this pathetic order? I know it is not from you"

Tae said: "Think wisely. Do as I say or you, GoHaeri & others will get killed"  (So it is very clear.  The order is for KTW & DG.  But also for any NIS Agent who resist this Order.   (Go Haeri joined DG against the NIS assassins.  So the order to kill includes her)

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7 hours ago, cherriesblue said:

in ep 10, Gi said he received orders to kill Haeri.  But I remember Ahn called Gi and said thay Cha and Kim are to be killed.  In fact he called because he wanted the NIS people to be safe, which means including Haeri, right?

 

 

 

-Theory time-

 

I rewatched and...I think Ahn called to make sure KTW was on his side and actually help to kill Dalgun and KWG. If he didn't called and gave KTW a direct order, KTW would have interfered and put a fight with the NIS assassins.

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Also...KTW told Haeri to bring KWG back home alive. KWG is a huge suspect and he needs to be alive to stand trial. He said he got an order to kill, (note I don't know Korean) but could it be he actually said 'i was ordered to kill 'them' aka Dalgun& KWG' or....he meant he was ordered to kill 'you guys': KWG and Dalgun while Haeri is considered collateral damage? Either way works imo.

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Also...Ahn is in cahoots with Min. Imo he has no interest in protecting his own team, he's just saving himself.

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Spoiler

Cahoots!

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All in all...I don't think there's a hidden agenda/meaning behind KTW's words. And Director Ahn is so easy to manipulate and controled by Yoon and Min. Ahahaha

 

-end of theory-

 

:lol:

 

 

 

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My apology. I mixed up the names.  NIS Director is Ahn (I said Tae).  The to kill order is for KWG (co-pilot) & DG.  (I said WTK & DG).:grimace:

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1 hour ago, Prettysup said:

Haha it was so obvious Chief Gang was faking his own death, I had to laugh.

 

Lol. I'm just glad I got to see chicken ahjumma again when Kang revealed that he is still alive. I wonder who took him out from the morgue freezer? Does the secret Vagabond team have doctors too? Hahaha. This reminds me of The Last Empress secret team :joy:.

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No doubt, This is the best Action drama since Iris. It had me on the edge of my seat especially the last 2 episodes..It's been a while since have this kind of thrill  watching a drama. Just wonderful :D

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Wow! So, there are so many mixed opinions on this forum, and I may be in the minority, but I love this drama! While there are a few plot holes, I think the drama has been quite realistic in other parts. 

 

First, CDG. The main reason that the NIS and even the mercenaries hired to kill CDG have failed is because he is a loose cannon. They all have military and special ops training, which is effective but it is also predictable. They are approaching him from the perspective of their years in the field and their training. CDG is a civilian who just so happens to be a very skilled stuntman. He doesn't move by the book. He doesn't wait to see what the enemy is going to do. He doesn't have any connections outside of his friendship with GHR, who is looked at as a B-List agent and she is a woman so there is that factor as well. Most of these agents are gleaning from their training, but their training did not prepare them for someone like CDG. The fact that he crept up on the truth and the cover up was totally unexpected. Look at how many agents are totally ignorant to the corruption going on within the NIS and he was able to put two and two together and figure it out right away. He was able to get the public's attention, the president's attention and even some of the victim's families. Then, little by little, the lie began to crumble.

 

GTW represents one of the best of this fraternity. He has played it by the book his entire career, which is why he has moved up the ranks and gotten where he is today. However, he is also really smart, too smart to believe that all of these things that have happened are coincidence or the work of a co-pilot and a civilian. He had a couple of slow moments because his training wants him to be loyal to the NIS and to his country because that is what he has always been taught. However, all of his superiors are disappointing him because they are all scum [with the exception of Chief Gang] and they expect him to be "in on it" with them. He has been under Gang long enough to move smarter which he is now doing. I got the impression that Chief Gang has suspected something fishy within the NIS long before the plane crash. 

 

I have a theory about Vagabond. Chief Gang could have used this when he was sitting in jail, but he waited right up until the moment that everyone would think that he was dead. Gang is a great observer. He knew that Oh Sang Mi had made a deal with someone high up. He knew that Jessica was going to get released. He knew that CDG wasn't completely crazy. And, he knew that Min Jae Sik wasn't going to be able to pull the trigger and kill him. He knew that he would find another way. He also knew that Jessica was working with someone up high, which we later found out Shadow is the special secretary. So who is backing Vagabond? The one thing that kept  bothering me each episode was how conveniently out-of-the-loop the president appeared. All of this turmoil and treachery was going on right under his nose and he seemed to be so oblivious to it. But, the scene where Gang tries to get a message to the president about the botched mission and his assistant is about to give it to him but she gets cut off by the special secretary. I knew then that more was going on there. I think the president may know exactly what is going on but pretending with all of the snakes around him. I think that is why he did an about face and confided in the prime minister that he wanted the J&M deal to go through because it was a good deal and seemed to be the best for the country, yet he had not other motives about it. What if he is behind Vagabond???

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20 minutes ago, nubianlegalmind said:

Wow! So, there are so many mixed opinions on this forum, and I may be in the minority, but I love this drama! While there are a few plot holes, I think the drama has been quite realistic in other parts. 

 

I have a theory about Vagabond. Chief Gang could have used this when he was sitting in jail, but he waited right up until the moment that everyone would think that he was dead. Gang is a great observer. He knew that Oh Sang Mi had made a deal with someone high up. He knew that Jessica was going to get released. He knew that CDG wasn't completely crazy. And, he knew that Min Jae Sik wasn't going to be able to pull the trigger and kill him. He knew that he would find another way. He also knew that Jessica was working with someone up high, which we later found out Shadow is the special secretary. So who is backing Vagabond? The one thing that kept  bothering me each episode was how conveniently out-of-the-loop the president appeared. All of this turmoil and treachery was going on right under his nose and he seemed to be so oblivious to it. But, the scene where Gang tries to get a message to the president about the botched mission and his assistant is about to give it to him but she gets cut off by the special secretary. I knew then that more was going on there. I think the president may know exactly what is going on but pretending with all of the snakes around him. I think that is why he did an about face and confided in the prime minister that he wanted the J&M deal to go through because it was a good deal and seemed to be the best for the country, yet he had not other motives about it. What if he is behind Vagabond???

 

It is possible.  At times when the President is replying to the PM, he sounds sarcastic.  After all the PM did mention that the President is a good Actor

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@nubianlegalmind In my opinion, The Prime Minister could be the person behind Vagabond. Don't forget that the note was read by him... and it might have been addressed to him in reality, while Yoon thought that in his naivety, Kang would try to contact the president. Don't you find it weird how the Prime Minister Hong looked down on Yoon's speech so that at the end, the president asked him to write a new one? So Hong is trying to get closer to the president and even acts as his best advisor... it was as if he was trying to replace Yoon. There is a rivalry between these two men and from my point of view, Hong has a different agenda.

The president is corrupt... especially after seeing how he treated the masseuse. He touched her indicating that this was more than a normal massage. Hong might appear as someone who supports the acquisition of new air fighters from J&M but I get this feeling that this is all just an act.

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56 minutes ago, bebebisous33 said:

The president is corrupt... especially after seeing how he treated the masseuse. He touched her indicating that this was more than a normal massage. Hong might appear as someone who supports the acquisition of new air fighters from J&M but I get this feeling that this is all just an act.

I forgot about this, yes, the president definitely is shady in other ways. Wasn't it like episode 3 or 4 when someone mentioned Min Jae Sik getting women for him? Either way, I can't wait to see what the rivalry between the Prime Minister and Yun will reveal. Great analysis.

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14 minutes ago, nubianlegalmind said:

I forgot about this, yes, the president definitely is shady in other ways. Wasn't it like episode 3 or 4 when someone mentioned Min Jae Sik getting women for him? Either way, I can't wait to see what the rivalry between the Prime Minister and Yun will reveal. Great analysis.

The rivalry was also palpable, when Yoon had to sit outside the conference room, while Hong and the president were chatting. Yoon was listening to their conversation. From my point of view, the president is using Yoon as his dirty man. If later someone accused the president of being an accomplice, he could claim that the message never reached him and Yoon is responsible for this.

However, I have the impression that the Prime Minister is trying to find a different way to implicate the president in the long run... by pushing him to sign the papers with J&M and even by writing such a speech, the president seems to be somehow linked to that dirty company.

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@bebebisous33 and @nubianlegalmind interesting theories. PM and  did not attract my attention at all. But now I'm gonna pay attention to them more. Haha

 

This pretty much sums up how I felt when watching ep 9.

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I was laughing and facepalming when the best NIS assassin shot randomly at a closed door. That's just.....idiotic. The NIS assassin team vs Dalgun had me rolling my eyes. He's so lucky. A stuntman is not the same level as a trained assassin/NIS agent. Show need to stop making NIS hitman look incompetent to give Dalgun the upperhand. It feels too imbalanced. Luck and life is on Dalgun's side, since all of his recent opponents are beneath him in skill. Korea can hire Dalgun as their 'one man  NIS person' and fire the rest. Clearly Dalgun is better than a dozen assassins combined. 

 

I want Scarface to return and put up a fight against Dalgun. 

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Ki Tae Woong pics!

 

His smile is limited to behind the scene pics only 

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Fooooooodddd!

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That is the best part of this Drama.  Everybody is so Suspicious. We can never be sure who is the Real Culprit;    who is the Real Power behind "Vagabond".  How influential is EP.     And we still have the Penultimate Scene of DG being asked to shoot.... &  then find himself pointing his weapon at beautiful GH coming out of a car instead.

 

 

 

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Watch: Lee Seung Gi And Suzy’s Hard Work During Training And Filming “Vagabond” Action Scenes Earns Praise

Oct 22, 2019
by J. K

 

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SBS’s “Night of Real Entertainment” put a spotlight on how the lead actors of the drama “Vagabond” are carrying out their intense action scenes.

Lee Seung Gi, who plays a stuntman in the drama, pulls off over 90 percent of his stunts in the show’s many action scenes.

In the October 22 episode of “Night of Real Entertainment,” the team sat down with the martial arts director for the show, who shared that Lee Seung Gi trained for three hours a day for three months to prepare for the stunts. “Usually when people train for three hours, they’re so tired out that they can’t do anything else,” the director said. “But even after Lee Seung Gi trained for three hours, he’d suggest that we go run up a mountain. It might be because it’s not been long since he was discharged from the military. He was really passionate.”

 

The director also named a scene that was surprising because Lee Seung Gi did it himself. It was the scene in which the actor jumped off the roof of a building. “It was filmed at an angle where it could have been a stunt double doing it instead, but I think it looked so great because Lee Seung Gi did it,” he said.

“Night of Real Entertainment” showed footage of Lee Seung Gi as he jumped off the building 20 to 30 times, spending four hours filming the scene. Lee Seung Gi also personally pulled off a scene in which he was pulled along while holding on to the back of a car.

more https://www.soompi.com/article/1360693wpp/watch-lee-seung-gi-and-suzys-hard-work-during-training-and-filming-vagabond-action-scenes-earns-praise

 

 

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Vagabond: Episode 8

by LollyPip

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Nothing is ever simple when you’re battling with two countries and and a powerful conglomerate for justice. Nobody but our two heroes seems to care about justice, not when more important things like money and political power are at stake. Every time they thinks they’ve gotten ahead, they finds themselves facing another wall… but they may also have found a very unlikely ally.

 

 
EPISODE 8 RECAP

 

http://www.dramabeans.com/2019/10/vagabond-episode-8/

 

 

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Behind the Scenes] Lee Seung-gi and Suzy give 101% for kisses and stunts | Vagabond [ENG SUB]

 
 
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btw, how long does a Cargo Ship takes to travel from Morocco to S Korea?  If NIS is serious in killing them, they can just sabotage it at Sea right?    :blink: "Vagabond" means leave Logics aside & just enjoy the Actions

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I thought I was seeing things... Haeri shooting with her left hand. And indeed she was!
Can't wait to see her development in the remaining six episodes :wub:
 

 

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PREVIEW

VO – What do you think that Cha Dal-gun wants?

JC – Let’s have fun

TW – Your comrade behind your back can be your worst enemy

Min – You talked to Go Hae-ri right?

Min – The co-pilot will never make it to Korea

HK – What if he shows up?

DG – Is the president above you?

Min – Ask him if he has any evidence

Copilot – Yes, definite evidence

HK – No arresting, just kill them

 

(Looks like GH was stabbed from the back by the co-pilot)

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