[Drama 2016-2017] Guardian: The Lonely and Great Goblin 도깨비

[an05]

http://inkigeul.blogspot.ca/2016/12/spoilers-goblin-keeps-viewers-hooked.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

 

Enews24 via Naver: 'Goblin' Gong Yoo's future, in the end a true love with Kim Goeun

1. [+7414, -99] What was the car accident in the teaser.. did it get cut out..?   I was so surprised that the sword would really be pulled when Eun Tak did that ㅠㅠㅠㅠ  Annng does one of them have to die?  Can't they both be happy...

2. [+5611, -103]  It was seriously like a movie at the end...ㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠ So cool

3. [+5151, -74]  The ending.... daebak.... ah what kind of drama.... gets sadder as it goes on..

4. [+3773, -63]  While I was watching all I could think of was what's this...what's this... what's going on ㅋㅋㅋ

5. [+3528, -74]  Please don't pull the sword.....

6. [+1622, -13]  Someone get me Kim Woobin's business card

7. [+1062, -11]  Our Grim Reaper was trying to find a card for the whole ep.. ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
 

 

My Daily via Naver: 'Goblin' Kim Sohyun and Kim Minjae appear, are they Lee Dongwook and Yoo Inna's past life

1. [+4073, -40]  Please give this couple more screen time ㅜㅜ So heartbreaking ㅜㅜㅜㅜ

2. [+3587, -31]  I'm 100% sure Gong Yoo's 1000-year grudge is with the grim reaper

3. [+2966, -34]  It's so sad when the grim reaper remembers it by his heart ㅜㅜ

4. [+1709, -30]  I've been waiting for the articles to come out.... time went by so fast today... what happens to the sword then

5. [+1473, -21]  What's going to happen tomorrowㅠㅠㅠㅠ Why is he cryingㅠㅠ

6. [+402, -6]  Their story is enough for a separate drama all by itself.. ㅠㅠ Let's not only show Gong Yoo and Kim Goeun's pretty scenes (and don't show too much ppl), give screen time to this couple too.. ㅠㅠ

7. [+370, -5]  Thought Kim Minjae was Yeo Jingoo ㅋㅋ

8. [+380, -12] It'd be nice if Kim Sohyun and Kim Minjae shot their own historical drama too ㅠㅠ

[vivvianne22]

GOBLIN-STYLE

The man wore a $3565 coat for his "final time". Since Deokhwa confirmed that everything that his family owns are all Kim Shin's, I expects him to wear all high-end stuffs. If Euntak knows about this tho, her expression going to be priceless lol. But as someone who owns that many (with gold barsssssssss), Kim Shin is a very frugal person to the point of stinginess. Lol. Took back the house's deed? fine. Took back the credit card? Fine. But he also took back the bag and perfume he gave to Euntak. Lol. Duh, our ahjussi is so stingy hahaha

[selenette]

@ktiminie Here's the web/my (mixed) translation of Female Risk (the book that the Reaper read) summary. I apologize for reposting the images.

 

 

 

A domestic automobile company has set up a cultural concert for female customers only. Realistically, the real buyer of a car is much more male than a female, why is this company paying for these wives for female and male customers? The reason is because women are 'the reality of the family'. In Korean society, the dominance of household purchasing power has long been passed on to women. Especially, there is a strong tendency of 'Wife Boy' characteristics among young people. In a large number of households, women make decisions as the chiefs.

The young men meet Alpha Girls, who are stronger than their mothers, and live by thinking 'you can not listen to your wife and lose money'. "Female Risk" aims to analyze the motivation of such powerful women through various humanistic spectrum including psychology, brain science, history, and philosophy as well as the latest economics and management theory.

----

P.S. One of the subjects I'm teaching at a local university is Sociology of the Family, and it pleases me that the Reaper is interested in Sociology too. (Or maybe he thought the book could teach him how to understand Sunny... ). Anyway, good job, production team, for inserting an empowering book.

 

 

[cristala]

The best combo for me last night are the trio..GR think of buying ice cream cake,,DH buy and KS give money..,DH should really be with both of them..,they're really old soul...if not with him these two ajussis will be lost in this modern world..hahaha

[gotdlookz]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4v3OuAeyMBo

This new goblin ost KYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA LSS again <3

[Ahpheng]

 

[vivvianne22]

에디킴 (Eddy Kim) - 이쁘다니까 lyrics

Spoiler

 

자꾸 물어보는 너
늘 확인하고픈 너
같은 말해줘도
매일 말해줘도
왜 계속 물어
입술이 말라오네
또 식은땀이 흐르네
또 정답은 알지만
니가 듣고 싶은 말
그 듣고 싶은 말
나를 시험하는 말
너 정말 이쁘다
이쁘다 이쁘다니까
왜 내 말
믿지 않는 건데 왜
말하고 말하고
아무리 말해도
화난 듯한
너의 그 표정
말 수가 없어진 너
더 불안해지는 나
매일 같은 퀴즈
반복되는 게임
난 항상 술래
머리를 새로 했나
오 손톱이 바뀌었을까
오 감이 오질 않아
니가 듣고 싶은 말
그 듣고 싶은 말
정말 힌트도 없는지
너 정말 이쁘다
이쁘다 이쁘다니까
왜 내 말
믿지 않는 건데 왜
말하고 말하고
아무리 말해도
화난 듯한
너의 그 표정
이쁘단 말 하나론
널 표현 하긴 부족하잖아
baby 내 맘이라도
꺼내줘야 넌 믿겠니
널 정말 사랑해
사랑해 사랑하는데
왜 변했다고 하는건데 왜
화내고 삐지고
매일 토라져도
그것마저 사랑스러워
니가 백번 아니
천번 내게 물어도
정답은 늘 하난데
어제도 오늘도
내일 또 물어도
세상에서 니가
제일 이뻐자꾸 물어보는 너
늘 확인하고픈 너
같은 말해줘도
매일 말해줘도
왜 계속 물어
입술이 말라오네
또 식은땀이 흐르네
또 정답은 알지만
니가 듣고 싶은 말
그 듣고 싶은 말
나를 시험하는 말
너 정말 이쁘다
이쁘다 이쁘다니까
왜 내 말
믿지 않는 건데 왜
말하고 말하고
아무리 말해도
화난 듯한
너의 그 표정
말 수가 없어진 너
더 불안해지는 나
매일 같은 퀴즈
반복되는 게임
난 항상 술래
머리를 새로 했나
오 손톱이 바뀌었을까
오 감이 오질 않아
니가 듣고 싶은 말
그 듣고 싶은 말
정말 힌트도 없는지
너 정말 이쁘다
이쁘다 이쁘다니까
왜 내 말
믿지 않는 건데 왜
말하고 말하고
아무리 말해도
화난 듯한
너의 그 표정
이쁘단 말 하나론
널 표현 하긴 부족하잖아
baby 내 맘이라도
꺼내줘야 넌 믿겠니
널 정말 사랑해
사랑해 사랑하는데
왜 변했다고 하는건데 왜
화내고 삐지고
매일 토라져도
그것마저 사랑스러워
니가 백번 아니
천번 내게 물어도
정답은 늘 하난데
어제도 오늘도
내일 또 물어도
세상에서 니가
제일 이뻐

 

I'm falling in love with Eddy Kim's voice when he was one of the OST of MDBC. Though the dude actually hilarious and his voice don't really match with his personality, but I'm sold. His voice is very sweet and refreshing. And this song really match well with GR-Sunny couple

[Love_yongstar11]

oh wow its been years since i login to my soompi acc, decide to do it today bcoz i had to let out my feeling for this drama,, its just so good i love all episode so far and kim goeun acting never fail to impress me everytime how could she be so good.. ofc the others are amazing as well thats what make me love this drama there is no one bad acting,, i even love the evil aunty character because her acting are just so good... sad to let her leave kkkkk

anyway regarding to the Grim and sunny theory althought so many people certain or guess that sunny is the king instead im still stick thru to my theory that grim is the king and sunny is the queen

1. first because of the sin the king commited in the past,, a great sin bcoz he let himself being manipulate, killed his people bcoz of his fear of losing the power and jealousy because the queen and Kim shin relationship,, i see so many people said the queen can commited sin bcoz she let KS go to the king at that time and thus decision kill many people,, but the actual power holder of that is the king so he is the one who responsible of the deaths of many lives 

2. from the recent 7 episode we have seen how GR reaction while seeing sunny is the same with his reaction when seeing the queen portrait,, he cried without realizing what happen to himself,, also the king is the one who madly in love with the queen right?? (bcoz at 1st episode KS said he failed to see the king jealousy and fear) i assume its the jealousy for the queen, and the scene with the young king sneaking to see young queen show how he is the one who love her more
for me its just imposible that GR cried seeing his own portrait kkkk

3. my theory is Sunny/Queen and KS/goblin are actualy sibling. why im saying this is bcoz at episode 2 or 3 (cant remember) when euntak offer sunny to drink some alcohol she said that she can not drink alcohol,, she will get drunk for just 1 bottle,, isnt it the same with goblin? goblin get heavily drunk with just 1 can of beer 
episode 1st the reason king hate KS bcoz king afraid that KS and his Family become more powerful than himself,, not only bcoz KS have won many war thus led to people treat KS as god,, also his family is powerful bcoz simply his sister is the queen
we have not yet see the present goblin meet sunny so the hint are so little, and i wish GR touch sunny hand so he can see her previous life but GR being so careful of touching geez kkk
 

and thats all my theory kkk i wish for more exposure of the pretty grandma tho i love her,, who can intimidate GR and Goblin

sorry for the long rant kkkk

 

[aisyyyooo]

Different sword?

[xxyy]

i just wanna let y'all know that i m dying from happiness!!

this drama is just so beautiful and the bromance..all the..... mance..cuteness! i explode into pieces! love it so muchh!!!

[122am]

3 hours ago, cristapark said:

@122am the red writing says my first love..

 

Thank you @cristapark!

[CatchMine_ID]

Anyone here knows the english translation of OST 'Who Are You'? Please, please. please, jebal >.<

[skinnerbox]

Did little Eun-tak could see Goblin's sword when she was waiting for Tae-hee oppa?

I'm so excited! I need the next episode! Can't even sleep.

[selenette]

4 minutes ago, skinnerbox said:

Did little Eun-tak could see Goblin's sword when she was waiting for Tae-hee oppa?

I'm so excited! I need the next episode! Can't even sleep.

 

@skinnerbox  imho she could. But she was taught to be cautious not to mention such things, perhaps because of her interaction with ghosts.

In that scene, she only paid attention to both Tae-hee and the cherry blossom petal.

[miles99]

Ugh I hope the ratings will be high even though it's Christmas Eve 

[packmule3]

Thanks for tagging me, @phikyl. Every time I come here I feel like Alice in Wonderful falling down the rabbit’s hole, so I usually wait till somebody tags me.

Somebody asked me why would a person cry looking at his own portrait or photograph? Isn’t he some kind of fool? Egotist? Plain psycho? (@nearsea, are you here? You're my devil's advocate.) 

I think that’s a fair question, and the advantage of old age is we HAVE cried over old photographs of ourselves. Right, @CamelKnight?

Here are my reasons, based on experience. 

Some photos can make people cry because they remind them of a better time, when they were innocent and thought they weren’t limited and could do anything they wanted. They know better now, so they cry. 

Some photos can make people cry because they remind them of hard times, when they were barely holding things together, but they had to grin and bear it for appearance’s sake and because there was a camera trained on them. They know better now, so they cry. 

However, some photos can make me weep, not because they remind me of specific good or bad times, but because I can never go back in time. I know better now, yet I cannot change the past. So I weep for what could have been, and would never be.

For all I know, the Grim Reaper could feel the same way as I do. That's human nature when confronted with a reminder of a tragic personal history.  

Thus  for me, to infer that he’s the king simply because he cried at the sight of the picture, and to attribute his sorrow to his regret for ordering the queen's death is jumping to conclusions not supported by the script -- as the script currently stands.  

Let me explain --

This is the sequence of events at the King’s courtyard. 

Spoiler

 

Queen and Shin meet. She smiles at him gently. He glances toward the king. The king looks back at him with a frown. 
Shin: So he’s really going this far? (not looking at the queen)
King: Don’t step any closer. Stop right there. Stop all of it. (Queen averts her eyes and gazes down.) Stop right there and die. If you do, I’ll spare everyone else. But if you take even one more step toward me, I’ll kill everyone in front of you and lay their corpses at your feet. 
Queen: (Not looking at him) Go, General. (He looks at her.) I’m alright. (Looks at him.) 

The King’s glare hardens as he hears this. As of Episode 7, we don’t know why she ordered him to go forward KNOWING fully well that the King would kill them. 

Shin: I – (he swallows) Your Highness, I…
Queen: I know. I know everything. And if this the end for me, then such is my fate. 

The King clenches his jaw. Brows furrow. Nostrils flare. These are signs of anger. 

Queen: So please go. Don’t stop and keep walking toward the king. (Shin looks at her intently then looks at the king. King’s mouth tightens and he swallows. His chin juts out – and this is a sign of resolve/defiance like, “Go ahead! Do it, and see what I'll do!") 

He walks forward, she begins to tear up. A tear drops. She knows death is coming. To paraphrase what the gods told Shin as a reason for his punishment, “while they were his enemies, her relatives, they were also the blood of the gods.”

King: Don’t spare her or anyone related to her (Notice that? He said “her." He could have ordered his guards to shoot arrows at Shin instead, and spared her but she was his target.) 

King: This is my command! (His face is trembling in anger.  He can't be any clearer: this is His command, not the eunuch’s. His choice. People can blame the eunuch for starting trouble, but ultimately the decision to kill her is his.) 

An arrow hits her on the RIGHT CHEST (the same area that Grim Reaper clutches in pain). Shin momentarily stops. She drops to the ground. 

Family members are dragged to the front and blades are raised to strike them. King’s face is hard; there’s no sign of regret, remorse, pain that he ordered his queen killed. Next group of family members are brought forward. Shin stops as he sees an old man. 

Eunuch: What are you doing? Bring the criminal to his knees!  (King’s face still showing no regret, remorse, sorrow that he ordered his queen killed.) 

Captain comes running, stops and kneels in FRONT of the queen’s body, screams “How could you do this? (“This” is the queen. The camera focuses on her dead body.) Have you no fear for the gods?” 

King: It’s not like the heavens have ever taken your side. (How can he say “your side” when that is HIS queen lying on the ground? She should have been considered HIS side.  Also, he has clear view of her supine body, but he shows no sign of regret, remorse, suffering that he ordered her killed. His taunting words that the god has abandoned the queen and “her side” signify that he is unmoved by her blood.) 

King’s face: eyebrows raised, lips curled. These facial expressions show disdain. Shin stares up at him.

Eunuch: Having that sinner gaze upon us is making me dizzy. (King’s frowns and squints his eyes.) Strike him down now!

After the Eunuch orders his body thrown out, the King stares and turns away without waiting for his umbrella escort to follow him. Shin glances back at the queen who briefly opens her eyes then closes them again. A tear drops again. Camera focuses on the ring. 

 

See that?

At this point, to say that he was pained by her death is pure speculation and unsupported by the script.  As seen in Episode 1, there is no evidence in the script that the King was moved by her death. He was in fact pitiless when he ordered her killed.  The queen HERSELF knew too, when her tear dropped the first time, that he was going to be ruthless, and kill her. That’s why she said, “And if this the end for me, then such is my fate.”  She’s resigned to her death. 

That's why I’m hoping that the writer will provide the backstory we need to judge the King’s and Queen’s actions fairly. Because as it stands, there's nothing. 

Lastly, I’ve watched the crying scene in question and frankly, I can argue it both ways -- that he is queen or that he is king -- and I provide supporting proofs for each side.  lol. The fact that I cannot prove beyond reasonable doubt that he is the king WARNS me that there is more to the king/queen business than meets the eye.  It isn't an open-and-shut case. Other people might be satisfied and contented to have this issue settled as early as the Episode 1, but you know me, @phikyl I require a preponderance of clear and convincing evidence before I decide one way or the other.  lol. 

I can cite AT LEAST four things that are inconsistent with the Grim Reaper being the king. Namely,

1) the DOMINANCE of Sunny in their dating relationship is comparable to the king’s SUPREMACY over the queen. She orders him to call her up and meet with him. Most of the time, he cowers when he's with her. He's intimidated by her. 

2) the Grim Reaper’s LACK of telephone, of name, of business card, of “reputable” job, etc., is comparable to the DEFICIENCIES of a non-royal like the queen-in-training.  He's always lacking in something, did you notice that? 

3) the Reaper’s REHEARSED RESPONSES are similar to the GROOMING of the queen-in-training for the royal court. He needs to give her the right answers so he practices (I’m 34 years old, My birthday is on November 5, I’m a Sagittarius, my blood type is AB, I’m single, I rent…).  This is like the queen-in-training who needs to know how to walk elegantly and practices it. He’s being coached on how to behave with her although he’s never stiff, tongue-tied or awkward with other people. To me, there’s something DYSFUNCTIONAL about the way he interacts and converses with Sunny. It isn't normal. It’s like he’s under a spell or something. And if that’s love, I don’t want any of it. lol.

4) their DISPARATE reactions when they see the ring.  The reaction of the Reaper is visceral and tear-inducing (he’s like Gollum with his Preciousssss) while Sunny’s reaction was that of a typical girl who is proud and delighted to have a pretty ring from a handsome suitor. 

Try as I might, I can find no rhyme nor reason for these four inconsistencies in their characters. That’s why even if I have to wait until Episode 15 to figure things out, I can be patient.  I like the mental exercise, anyway. It keeps my brain cells from atrophying. 

It’s been a long day, and even a longer one tomorrow. Merry Christmas. 

p.

[jentayue]

Im not sure if this has been discuss yet.. the man on bicycle that almost bump with kim shin is the same with the one that pickpocket woo bin... kim shin foresee this man future accident ( crash with taxi.).. in my opinion the impact will cause the taxi to collide with eun tak bus (accident that we saw from preview of ep 6.)

[nikki7]

3 hours ago, PororoQueen said:

 Gong Yoo should get a shampoo CF soon, his hair is so heavily wavy ... Gosh so handsome.

 

Exactly. I am in love with his hair as well. Lol. 

[cristala]

21 minutes ago, miles99 said:

Ugh I hope the ratings will be high even though it's Christmas Eve 

Surely it will be.,,heheheh Korea here are not celebrating Christmas,,but I'm worrying about the protest rally cox it always fall every saturday

[Guest]

12 hours ago, sally_b said:

Wow ~ behind more than 20 pages....settles in to read ~ 

Just because - he needs one. <3

Lol!!! Love it. Yes please give this man a card. Poor fella. He's been so obsessed with it.

1 minute ago, cristapark said:

Surely it will be.,,heheheh Korea here are not celebrating Christmas,,but I'm worrying about the protest rally cox it always fall every saturday

Anyeong @cristapark..happy to see you here! You mean the rally is still going on?