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SBS Presents Moon Lovers : Scarlet Heart Ryeo                                                      Drama: Moon Lovers: Scarlet Heart: Ryeo Revised romanization:   Bobogyungsim

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KYAAAAAAAA I justsaw this on weibo, obviously its a continuation from her "peck" aahahhahahahahahahha I am such a goner.........................................

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I just finished the latest episodes, all version, with subs, and I'm kinda glad no striking differences this time, although, there's a few cute scenes that got cut in SBS version, awww... *coughmanlyWangJungcough* Okay! I'll write my thoughts about these episodes. Forgive me if it has been said, and it's not organized, or maybe it would sound like a personal rant.

Maybe it's only me, but I think the editing of both episodes are a mess this time, especially on Woo Hee as a character and her interactions with Baek Ah and Hae Soo. As a character, she's introduced very poorly to the viewers in my opinion. Her overall story is too rushed, and if I didn't read her character description in the teaser poster, I wouldn't know she's a fallen Baekje princess who holds grudge to King Taejo and planning to kill him. I sincerely think I can 'love' Woo Hee if she's given enough time to shine. Shame...what a waste of a good character. Also, I feel all of Baek Ah x Woo Hee scenes are too little and disjointed. Their love story is also feel rushed since they have very little scenes. They are supposed to be a couple, but I can't feel any OTP vibes from them, not like Hae Soo x Wang So or Hae Soo x Wang Wook which most of us ship from the start.

Also...Woo Hee and Hae Soo's friendship is just...questionable. Where did that come from?? In episode 13, from their dialogue, it seems that they have met a few times and develop friendship from that, but we only see one scene from them; it's when Woo Hee injured her hand after dance practice with Baek Ah. I swear, I watched both version many times, since I thought I missed a few scenes of Hae Soo - Woo Hee or something, but apparently, their interaction IS only that ONE scene, and Hae Soo already declared her as a friend when they need to get the Crown Prince. I saw stills where Hae Soo takes care of Woo Hee's injured hand, where's that scene? Where, director, WHERE?? 

*sigh*

On the positive note, I like how the game of thrones are started, the action scenes are done so well! All of them looked so cool, but I kinda wish to see Wang Yo who fights Wang So instead of Wang Wook. I mean, the power hungry one is Wang Yo, right? Wang Wook is just an 'ally' to him. Although yes, Wang Wook's jealousy is triggered to fight Wang So because he sees Hae Soo at the palace gate, and yes, it might be to convince Wang Yo that he is indeed on his 'side', but to have Wang Wook fighting Wang So at the Cheondeokjeon is kinda out of place for me. Wang Yo would be more fitting.

Queen Yoo shows us a vulnerable side of her when King Taejo died. What Lady Oh said about Queen Yoo is right; Lady Oh would never ever beat her. It's apparent in Queen Yoo's face when King Taejo mouthed Lady Oh's name before he died. I also find it interesting when she says this to Queen Hwangbo :

"What do you know? Have you ever been loved by him?"

Well...this raises question if King Taejo ever loved Queen Yoo, too. If indeed he loves her, he would ask to see her beside his deathbed first, no matter how manipulative and ambitious Queen Yoo is. I don't know, maybe I looked too much into this, so many possibilities though. Also, when Wang Jung informed her that Wang Yo is dead, she seems so lost...she also ignores Wang Jung's words when he comforted her. It seems that she only cares for Wang Yo since he's the one that has potential to be the king...poor Wang Jung, he looked kinda hurt when he hugged her, but also angry...maybe at Wang So?? By the way, Queen's Yoo grey hair at the end kinda distracts me...how long did the Queens been locked up? Isn't it only two days? Oh...maybe the hair dye wasn't so great back then...never mind. In the end, I'm glad that Wang So is the one who put the robe on top of the deceased King. Also, I'm glad to see that his father did love him, and Wang So knows that too. It's very heart warming when he cracked a smile when he caught a glimpse of his father in Shinju. And the mystery behind those fashionable masks are finally answered! Hehehee...I did wonder why he has so many masks back in earlier episodes.

And, and, finally we see the full form of dark Wang Wook~ muahahahhaaa...he wanted to take the throne, all of those 'playing nice' did come in handy, eh, Wook? Scary fella. I think Yeon Hwa felt this too when Wook told her that if all of their plan doesn't work, she should marry Wang Yo. Interesting that Yeon Hwa seems to be taken aback by his statement...I can understand when she's surprised when Wang Wook killed the maid, but regarding the marriage, she's the one who said that she wouldn't go into a marriage that wouldn't benefit Wang Wook, why so surprised? But it seems she has come to accept dark Wang Wook who sees everything as debt and repayment, even more than when his house is still peaceful with Hae Soo in it.

Wang Eun and Seondeok scenes are pretty cute~ Seondeok overprotectiveness over Wang Eun is so adorable, hehehee...but one thing that I'm confused with, is Seondeok's statement about "the new king will kill siblings and nephews that would threaten his position." and Wang Eun immediately believes that. I mean...Wang Eun knows that the new king is the teddy bear Wang Moo; he's kind and merciful, he will never hurt his brothers. Wang Eun shouldn't be scared to go out and pay respect to his late father...this also made me think, how many downfalls and rises of the King(s) that Seondeok has witness that made her say something like that?

And finally, I think, Hae Soo x Wang Wook is coming to an end. As much as I like Wang Wook, he's indeed loosing on many points compared to Wang So. Wang Wook did promise too many things to Hae Soo and now Hae Soo couldn't trust him anymore. I understand that he couldn't throw his family away and turned his back on her when Lady Oh is executed, but after that he also has many chances to redeem himself...even Wang Jung noticed and actually made a way for him to see Hae Soo's condition, but in the end...he didn't do anything, but still think that Hae Soo would wait for him, indefinitely. Now Wang Wook is tasting his own medicine; boy, not everyone can survive on promises alone. I'm pretty glad that Hae Soo showed some back bone and told him that it wouldn't be easy to get her heart back after he implied that chose the throne over her.

OTP is blooming quite nicely~~~ Hae Soo finally realizes that she loves Wang So all along~ I will patiently wait for their love to flourish~ but Wang So at the end though...I feel sorry for him. 'Killing' a family, no matter how nasty he is to him must be different from killing strangers. I think, deep down, he did know that his brothers are not the one to blame if they hate him, because Queen Yoo has brainwashed them to hate Wang So from the very start. Fortunately he called Hae Soo to seek her comfort. Oh, and I think Wang So called her out because if he comes to see her first, he's afraid she might act like the last time they were together; unwilling. If he called her, Hae Soo can choose to see him or not, it's her own will.

Another good episodes this week, despite the editing flaw. Now we have to wait for Hae Soo x Wang Wook officially ending, the bracelet sceeeeene! Wonder how they would do this, will we see another furious Wang Wook? Will Wang Jung be his witness when he destroys the bracelet? And more OTP scenes next week~~~ I can't wait, I can't wait!!

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1 hour ago, junejungki said:

Same here. I dont know and I cant understand why Scarlet Heart turn me to such person. I watched many K drama before but I never have this mental breakdown and sleepless night over K drama. This is all Lee Jung Ki's fault.

Mental breakdown.... that's an accurate description of my current predicament as well 

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an observation:  WS's love for HS is far superior, as love should make you a better person , and we have seen that happen with WS

then there is Wook, love for  HS definitely did not make him a better person or as I suspect, he never was the better person to begin with .. I sure do not like what he has become..even HS can't ignore that any longer

I do not know how all this will play out..guess we will see how close the writer sticks to actual history..I will hope for at least some happiness for WS & HS..life for sure doesn't always have the ending you want, but it should have happy moments you can always keep in your heart & memory while you are alive..happy moments are hard to come by in the Palace

other observations: poor HS is still limping, but I find that more realistic after undergoing torture..I really don't get torture, because who wouldn't confess to just about anything after prolonged torture ..so horrible

I love the side romances..Baek & WooHee, Eun & his feisty wife (who has much wisdom when she tells Eun to live quietly like a mouse) I continue to love Wang Jung for the sweet person he is..as for Wang Yo, dang, I wish he would stay dead (preview ruined that) 

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So does anyone know if they are still going forward with the no cut DVD/Blue-ray or are they going to stop because the korean fans don't want to do it anymore? I know someone talked about that pages ago but i lost the page because this thread moves fast. :) 

Edit: soompi posted this ^^

http://www.soompi.com/2016/10/05/lee-joon-gi-celebrates-1-million-followers-instagram-fun-cast-shot-scarlet-heart-goryeo/

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8 minutes ago, Misstwilightfan1416 said:

So does anyone know if they are still going forward with the no cut DVD/Blue-ray or are they going to stop because the korean fans don't want to do it anymore? I know someone talked about that pages ago but i lost the page because this thread moves fast. :) 

Edit: soompi posted this ^^

http://www.soompi.com/2016/10/05/lee-joon-gi-celebrates-1-million-followers-instagram-fun-cast-shot-scarlet-heart-goryeo/

 

 

"It’s reported that Lee Joon Gi’s Instagram has been followed by more than 600,000 users since the premiere of “Scarlet Heart: Goryeo.”

See? That's what I was talking about! He's gaining more and more  popularity right now! I'm so happy for him! :wub:

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7 minutes ago, shiraru said:

 

*sigh*

On the positive note, I like how the game of thrones are started, the action scenes are done so well! All of them looked so cool, but I kinda wish to see Wang Yo who fights Wang So instead of Wang Wook. I mean, the power hungry one is Wang Yo, right? Wang Wook is just an 'ally' to him. Although yes, Wang Wook's jealousy is triggered to fight Wang So because he sees Hae Soo at the palace gate, and yes, it might be to convince Wang Yo that he is indeed on his 'side', but to have Wang Wook fighting Wang So at the Cheondeokjeon is kinda out of place for me. Wang Yo would be more fitting.

 

 

I think in the scene WY draws his sword first and the general responded. But before they can engage in battle, WW started striking and thats when WS decided to act, i think out of obligation to his promise to HS, he rather WW fought him than the general. 

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1 hour ago, chickenchopflipflop said:

just rematched the fight sequence for the nth time...and I realise true to the script, WS's moves were 80% defensive.

 

 

 

Which is interesting to me because LJG's skills make it look otherwise (like he was the one attacking WW instead). And also, not to bash KHN, but in the long shots, i think you can see that he was using a double, whereas LJG was not..This scene is amazing because of LJG...R.E.S.P.E.C.T.!

 

I read that he rather do most of the stunts himself cause he wants to make it look real but he said if its a high risk scene then they want to use a double just in case of any accidents 

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so history tells us Wangsoo married YH and had five kids with her; my reaction -- ???? how did that happen? even with marrying first cousins, there is often genetic complications and they managed to produce five kids with no mental health or physical health problems when they are half siblings? how is that possible?

so my plausible scenario based on years of watching all the kdramas -- those kids probably don't actually belong to YH. just like how mistress kids is placed in the family registrar as those belonging to the first wife -- how many dramas have we seen using that? so many! -- these kids could belong to concubines including Haesoo.... how is that for a random musing?

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16 minutes ago, Lmangla said:

so history tells us Wangsoo married YH and had five kids with her; my reaction -- ???? how did that happen? even with marrying first cousins, there is often genetic complications and they managed to produce five kids with no mental health or physical health problems when they are half siblings? how is that possible?

so my plausible scenario based on years of watching all the kdramas -- those kids probably don't actually belong to YH. just like how mistress kids is placed in the family registrar as those belonging to the first wife -- how many dramas have we seen using that? so many! -- these kids could belong to concubines including Haesoo.... how is that for a random musing?

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Only if both of them are carriers to a defected gene there will be a problem, if both of them have healthy genes the kids are fine 

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24 minutes ago, enigmatic_zephy said:

Its not 100% that babies will ahve problem.. take muslim community..do you see problems..

And who knows maybe a problematic child is killed or not problems are not recorded..

 

They married , had sex (def >5), and made babies... AND that is the truth.. for HS and for us

 

7 minutes ago, mewtwo said:

Only if both of them are carriers to a defected gene there will be a problem, if both of them have healthy genes the kids are fine 

actually there could be problems if taejo and the queens themselves are related. usually with first generation intermarriage, there are less probability for issues but take it to the second generation intermarriage, then there would be. am assuming that taejo himself married within the clan. and simple problems can be skin pigmentation issues. we know that based on history, we do have kids swapped and registered as another queen's simply for political reasons. so I was thinking of an empress ki kind of situation. anyways, it wasn't meant to be a serious discussion thought. simply a random musing. :) 

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All I'm thinking is that we'd better start saying goodbye to General Park, Wang Eun and Soondeok. They'll most likely be the next casualty in this bloody fight for the throne. Soo's premonitions seem to coming true

They'll be welcomed by Lady Oh, the palace maid Wook killed, King Taejo and CP after next week. I don't know how Yo goes but I hope he does his fabulous eyeliner and Lion King mane of glory justice before he goes.

I look forward to watching Go Ha Jin run into people in the future who look like her deceased loved ones. It will be extremely sad for her though.

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35 minutes ago, Lmangla said:

so history tells us Wangsoo married YH and had five kids with her; my reaction -- ???? how did that happen? even with marrying first cousins, there is often genetic complications and they managed to produce five kids with no mental health or physical health problems when they are half siblings? how is that possible?

so my plausible scenario based on years of watching all the kdramas -- those kids probably don't actually belong to YH. just like how mistress kids is placed in the family registrar as those belonging to the first wife -- how many dramas have we seen using that? so many! -- these kids could belong to concubines including Haesoo.... how is that for a random musing?

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I'm actually more curious if it would show Wangsoo married YH in this drama or if it'll cut that part out like it'll tell us that he married YH in the future and end it at that. 

Since the focus on this is Wangsoo transition into becoming King and his love with HaeSoo. It's a love story and the impact that love that leads him to aim for the throne and become emperor, and that love that turn his heart back to cold and ruthless. The way it seem, from start So had only one goal and was to remain in the palace with his family and not return to his "adopted" family. But it was his encounter with Soo and eventually love that lead and entangle him further into battling for the throne. 

And so far, there has hint about Soo's health. Her leg hasn't heal after a year and you can see instance where she's grabbing to her chest (her heart). It may interpet different but I look at it as sign of health issue. 

So I can see this drama being that of So and Soo and how they were destined to meet and change the course of their fate. Soo bring So to his fateful place as King and from So, Soo learn what true love really is. I am hoping that the only mention of marriage between So and YH probably would be the end when Soo return to her time and see that history does show So and YH married and it'll be the end of it. I will look at it and hope that it is Soo who entrusted YH to take care of So given that she know YH truly care for So and she wanted someone to at least be there for So when her time is up. 

 

Sorry guys, I am kind of bored at work so I'm just rambling! LOL!

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@soorani right after SH Ep13 aired I checked LGJ's IG, he had 992k followers and in less than 24hrs since I last checked it, he reached 1M. That's 8,000 new followers in less than 24hours.

*I realized I seem like a stalker after typing that. I promise though I'm not a sasaeng fan. Just a very devoted fangirl*:wub:

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