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5 hours ago, toninha said:

The last episodes made me emotional, felt so bad for SS and made me want to kick NQ as...:(  I really hope when SS runs away he can suffer and feel the same loneliness that she felt while waiting for him all those months. 

 

Same here! Like boy you left her for months and she was waiting for you all lonely at home and anticipating your return and you bring home another girl :huh:you obviously she's going to avoid you because she's upset

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5 hours ago, greenwatch08 said:

Im seeing that NQ returns/reunite w/SS around ep.45 which good. The drama needs the rest of the remaining eps to develop both NQ/SS & other aspects to move the plot forward. Im currently on ep.32 on Viki. 43-48 releases next week, so it will a good time to binge-watch everything in one go. Feels like a early Christmas gift. 

Yes . I wish the drama had done this since before, instead of making the wilderness part longer. This is the core part, the time when the conflict between NQ-SS appear and how they handle them. This is when their characters grow.

 

 

6 hours ago, angelangie said:

 

 

sigh....cant blame NingQue and neither can we blame SangSang.....

 

This guy is responsible for the massacre of his family because of his belief.....we can't expect him to accept WGM with open arms.....and coming back seeing how close SangSang is to WGM hurts him.....SangSang is his most trusted ally, friend and family.....and now she is siding with WGM and see him as a savior....which he is....

 

NingQue went on his quest and left SangSang all alone to fend in the big city where it is fill with all those greedy little ppl who will not hesitate to tear into SangSang given a chance to do so.....WGM happen to come along and keep her accompany and protect her from the 3rd Prince.......

 

however one thing for sure.....they are airing it out....which is for the best.....rather than bottle it up an treat it as nothing and when it burst out later it will be even worst.....

I agree with this.

 

SS was still very small when she experienced hardships. By the time she grew up, she had been used to it. NQ is different. He remembered everything and experienced how his happy peaceful live was destroyed by the massacre. It's very normal if he held grudges and couldnt let go of his hatred toward the people who had done it. Of course, he couldn't accept WGM, especially when he was also the one who had caused the death of his beloved Master. Please note that NQ also loved Master Yan Se like his own Dad, like he said once. That guy WGM once caused the death of his father, and now is also the cause of the death of his father's replacement.

 

I understand him this time, although I know that I can't blame SS either

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3 hours ago, satanghaesolim said:

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XC: Ay... Men see one, love one. If they could they would marry and take home all the beautiful girls. Three wives, four concubines is not much. Eight or ten is more desirable.

SS: Is that true?

XC: I also don't know. That's what they all say. Sang Sang your status is not the same now. You are the eldest daughter of the Zeng family. Why don't you explain it to him?

SS: No. I didn't speak to Young Master about this matter. You are also not allowed to say anything.

XC: You are completely hopeless. All of Du city knows, your families Young master went on a faraway trip and returned with a big pile of beautiful girls from the Great Lake country, especially that what....Book addict Mo Shan Shan. Are you not even a little bit worried?

SS: mm I'm worried. What can I do even if I'm worried?

XC: Don't blame me for not warning you. In your heart, is there only Ning Que?

SS: mm nods.

XC: Then you definitely won't get married to any other person?

SS: mm nods

XC: If it is that Mo girl who marries your families, Young master, then she will become your matriarch (female head of the family).

SS: Lady Shan Shan is very good, she's one of the World's three addicts, the Book Addict. She's good looking, her character is good, her calligraphy is also good.

XC: What are you thinking?

SS: Our families Young master will definitely marry a Young Mistress. Lady Shan Shan is very good.

XC: Then what are you to him? Watching the shop for him, washing clothes, making meals and also managing the money for him. You already do enough for him. In the Wilderness, he attracts the bees and the butterflies (to attract the opposite sex/flirt). No wonder he was unwilling to return even after such a long time. Whilst you were persistently waiting for him at home. Also, you were seized and put in prison by bad people.

SS: Your not allowed to say anything, this I haven't told him.

XC: If you are still like this. You can only be a concubine.

SS: eh Sang Sang is not a concubine. Sang Sang is Sang Sang. Young master's Sang Sang.

 

 

 

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SS: Young Master, quickly eat the noodles, if you don't eat it, the noodles will get lumpy. Do you want to add some spring onions?

NQ: Sang Sang, when you were very young, I discussed with you, in the future what kind of uhh.... uhh.....what kind of sister in law I would find for you.

SS: It's Young Mistress. Young Master how do you feel about Lady Mo.

NQ: Quickly eat the noodles, you can't eat it if it's lumpy.

SS: Lady Mo is very good.

NQ: She is very good, just very good?

SS: mm she is very good.

 

May I know what they are saying the scene where NQ and SS burying their masters and a scene where NQ's eyes  suddenly turned red after that?:D

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1 hour ago, ningsangcpp said:

Same here! Like boy you left her for months and she was waiting for you all lonely at home and anticipating your return and you bring home another girl :huh:you obviously she's going to avoid you because she's upset

Too bad she doesn't have someone else liking her, a handsome men so he could feel jealous too, that would make my day lol 

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Since I last signed on, this thread has grown 20 pages! 

 

I can’t read through it all. I will be tempted with spoilers (even though I’ve read the book lol). 

 

I’m back with my important question. The most important question in the universe. Has NQ&SS reunited?! If so, what episode? 

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1 minute ago, littlemissmiss said:

Since I last signed on, this thread has grown 20 pages! 

 

I can’t read through it all. I will be tempted with spoilers (even though I’ve read the book lol). 

 

I’m back with my important question. The most important question in the universe. Has NQ&SS reunited?! If so, what episode? 

In ep 45 i believe. Yes, this thread has grown immensely, which is cool. 

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Showing conflict between NQ/SS is really good, & definitely adds depth to their relationship & growth as individuals. Its probably a long time that they ever had conflicting emotions/different viewpoints w/eachother so it's nice to see how they both will handle it. Judging from the spoilers, its something Im looking forward to.

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Spoiler translations for ep 45 :) for some reason I watched in the wrong order:sweatingbullets:

 

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NQ: Sang Sang, still not coming over to let me hug you?

SS: I'm working, hands are dirty.

NQ: How are you?

SS: Young Master, I have something I want to tell you.

NQ: What matter is more important than letting me hug you? Since I returned, you haven't been very happy. Did you not miss me even a little? Quickly, come over and hug. Okay. Quickly go wash the dishes. I'll let you see something good. Look, what is this. When you were young you asked me for this one but I didn't buy it for you. You loudly cried at me. This time going to Tu Yang City, I saw this one again. Do you like it?

SS: nods Young Master....

NQ: Okay, quickly wash the dishes. Young Master is really tired. Boil some water later I want to take a bath.

SS: mm

 

NQ is really treating SS like a servant, make the noodles, wash the dishes, boil the water :P

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NQ: Master, how about right here?

SS: mm here is very good.

NQ: Go further away from us.

SS: Master Yan Se told me to tell Young Master. Two horizontal and two vertical, both horizontal and vertical in the same way as 井 (ah I get it like the character two lines side by side whether vertically or horizontally they want to be buried side by side)

NQ: Didn't I tell you to bury further away, bury further away. Why didn't you listen?

SS: He is my Master.

NQ: Now you don't even listen to what I say?

SS: Dead, both are dead, what use is burying further away. When they chose the urns they already said they want to be displayed side by side. In the future, they can still be neighbours.

NQ: Be what neighbours? They became ash, still thinking of fighting all day, chatting all day? Both are useless.

SS: My Master has always been searching for the shadow of dark night. He said it is the son of Hades.

NQ: Your Master is our enemy! The one who directed Xia Hou to kill General Lin's entire family, that Xi Ling person is your Master! If it wasn't because of you (pointing at WGM), General Lin's entire family, the villagers at the Yan-Tang border, my brother (fraternal) Zhuo er's entire family and your entire family wouldn't have died. So many innocent people died. You actually recognise an enemy as your Master?

SS: Young Master also didn't say anything and returned with a ........ heap of people. (LOL)

NQ: You're making me so angry!

Yan Se voiceover: This time going to the wilderness you have to be careful of everything. If you can't win in a fight, then think of a way to escape, return with your life, Master will teach you well.

NQ voiceover: When I was young my father was just like you, peeling peanuts for me to eat. You are just like my father.

NQ: Sang Sang I want to tell you....

SS: Young Master I want to tell you...

SS: You first.

NQ: I want to tell you, about a very important matter. (NQ squishes a silver teal with his fingers)

SS: How did you do that? Young Master? How are you?

NQ: I've already joined (entered) the devil.

SS: What? Joined the devil?

NQ: I've already learned the Haoren Qi left behind by Youngest Senior uncle. It became this kind of Haoren Qi (energy). Now my body became like this. The so-called Hoaren Qi is taking in the vital energy of Heaven and Earth and storing it inside one's body. In other words, now my cultivation technique is the Devil sects technique. I've already joined the devil.

SS: Saying that, then you are the Son of Hades Master was talking about.

NQ: Say fewer useless things. Look closely, is it not your families Young Master? I want to eat

fried egg noodles with 30 pieces of spring onions.

 

Sigh.... in the novel SS is not at all scared that NQ joined the devil because NQ will always be NQ here they have SS running away from him? 

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Spoiler translations for ep 45 :) for some reason I watched in the wrong order:sweatingbullets:

 

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NQ: Sang Sang, still not coming over to let me hug you?

SS: I'm working, hands are dirty.

NQ: How are you?

SS: Young Master, I have something I want to tell you.

NQ: What matter is more important than letting me hug you? Since I returned, you haven't been very happy. Did you not miss me even a little? Quickly, come over and hug. Okay. Quickly go wash the dishes. I'll let you see something good. Look, what is this. When you were young you asked me for this one but I didn't buy it for you. You loudly cried at me. This time going to Tu Yang City, I saw this one again. Do you like it?

SS: nods Young Master....

NQ: Okay, quickly wash the dishes. Young Master is really tired. Boil some water later I want to take a bath.

SS: mm

 

NQ is really treating SS like a servant, make the noodles, wash the dishes, boil the water :P

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NQ: Master, how about right here?

SS: mm here is very good.

NQ: Go further away from us.

SS: Master Yan Se told me to tell Young Master. Two horizontal and two vertical, both horizontal and vertical in the same way as (orderly?) (sorry I have no idea what this means)

NQ: Didn't I tell you to bury further away, bury further away. Why didn't you listen?

SS: He is my Master.

NQ: Now you don't even listen to what I say?

SS: Dead, both are dead, what use is burying further away. When they chose the urns they already said they want to be displayed side by side. In the future, they can still be neighbours.

NQ: Be what neighbours? They became ash, still thinking of fighting all day, chatting all day? Both are useless.

SS: My Master has always been searching for the shadow of dark night. He said it is the son of Hades.

NQ: Your Master is our enemy! The one who directed Xia Hou to kill General Lin's entire family, that Xi Ling person is your Master! If it wasn't because of you (pointing at WGM), General Lin's entire family, the commoners at the Yan-Tang border, my brother (fraternal) Zhuo er's entire family and your entire family wouldn't have died. So many innocent people died. You actually recognise an enemy as your Master?

SS: Young Master also didn't say anything and returned with a ........ heap of people. (LOL)

NQ: You're making me so angry!

Yan Se voiceover: This time going to the wilderness you have to be careful of everything. If you can't win in a fight, then think of a way to escape, return with your life, Master will teach you well.

NQ voiceover: When I was young my father was just like you, peeling peanuts for me to eat. You are just like my father.

NQ: Sang Sang I want to tell you....

SS: Young Master I want to tell you...

SS: You first.

NQ: I want to tell you, about a very important matter. (NQ squishes a silver teal with his fingers)

SS: How did you do that? Young Master? How are you?

NQ: I've already joined (entered) the devil.

SS: What? Joined the devil?

NQ: I've already learned the Haoren Qi left behind by Youngest Senior uncle. It became this kind of Haoren Qi (energy). Now my body became like this. The so-called Hoaren Qi is taking in the vital energy of Heaven and Earth and storing inside one's body. In other words, now my cultivation technique is the Devil sects technique. I've already joined the devil.

SS: Saying that, then you are the Son of Hades Master was talking about.

NQ: Say fewer useless things. Look closely, is it not your families Young Master? I want to eat

fried egg noodles with 30 pieces of spring onions.

 

Sigh.... in the novel SS is not at all scared that NQ joined the devil because NQ will always be NQ here they have SS running away from him? 

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Can somebody clear my doubt?  Why did NQ show SS the fierce side of devil sect?  Was he angry with her that she did not listen to his words on WGM? Or he just want her to show that he has joined the devil sect?

 

Actually NQ wanted to enjoy the best of both worlds SS and MSS.  Marrying MSS and still keeping SS by his side as ever.  But I  feel that SS is more matured than NQ for her age.  She left him.  Even though she did not like NQ liking other girls than her, she wanted to give him the space.  Indeed she will ask him in the novel

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Ning Que hit the back of his head forcefully and said again, "We will spend our lives together, without a doubt."

Following that, he continued, "But I do have to get married, I know that you might find it hard to accept in a short time, and I understand how you feel right now..."

Sangsang suddenly asked, "You said that we will definitely spend the rest of our lives together?"

Ning Que answered with certainty, "It is necessary!"

Sangsang said, "And you have to get married."

Ning Que nodded.

Sangsang said, "You have to spend your life with someone else if you get married, how are you going to spend your life with me then?"

That makes sense, isn't it?  I also agree that this is the BEP for both to understand the love they have for each other.  So, I am looking forward to tonites episode so much

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Saw the clip on Youtube where Fuzi told Ning Que he is not the son of Hades and the blame of the past cannot be placed on solely on his own existence. Such a wise man.

 

Even Wei Guangming saw at the end that he was wrong.

 

Sang Sang and Ning Que argument on Wei Guangming was Ning Que knew Wei Guangming was behind the massacre of the General household while Sang Sang saw him as the homeless old man she took in and became her master.

 

It is good that Sang Sang exerted her own spirit and thoughts as she should live in her own accord and not still under Ning Que whim.

 

Totally agree with the comment that Ning Que wants to enjoy the best of both world by keeping both women by his side. 

 

I believe Sang Sang make him make a choice

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Thank you @satanghaesolim for the scene translations.  I though that the NQ-SS scenes were so well acted and directed in ep 45.  Now I can watch the wilderness episodes without as much angst :joy:

 

But I also didn't really like how they changed SS reaction to NQ joining the devil sect because SS never doubted NQ and what makes their relationship special and what drove their actions going forward is that their bond transcended all these power struggles from different sects and from the royal family. 

 

This is from the most recent chapters translated:

 

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"And I want to tell you that my love is different from yours. Mine might not seem as sad or difficult as yours, but it is calmer and stronger because my love has nothing to do with good and evil."
Lu Chenjia paused for a moment and asked, "How can one's love have nothing to do with good and evil?"
"Because love is subjective, just like good and evil, beauty and ugliness. In fact, the world is subjective. Why should my views be affected by that of the world?"
Ning Que turned to look at Sangsang who was resting against his shoulders. He looked at her tiny face and said softly, "I don't like Haotian or Yama. But no matter whether she is the Lady of Light or the Daughter of Yama, it would not affect my affection for her. Just like how she continued to like me even when everyone said that I was the Son of Yama."

 

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1 minute ago, angelangie said:

actually over all in the drama they are doing pretty well however they exaggerate alot of stuff....and they put too much focus on the situation that make the viewers dissatisfied especially for those who had actually read the novel itself....

 

they over dramatize the situation in between MSS and NingQue especially, they deepen the feeling NingQue had for Mo ShanShan.....and they over play the situation where NingQue was arguing with SangSang in front of their parent.....

 

most of us know the direction of the stories but to some who never read the novel i guess it is their right to request for such thing to be happening in between too.....

 

but still im glad to be on board on this series as it is really an eyes opener :) 

You are right in fact I am quite amazed at how faithful they are following the story cause you hear of other drama adaptions where fans complain that so much were changed.  I guess the exaggerations are so that viewers will go through a roller coaster of emotions and be even more hooked.  I mean would this forum be this active if were are not being put through the ringer by the screenwriter/director :joy:

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3 hours ago, greenwatch08 said:

Showing conflict between NQ/SS is really good, & definitely adds depth to their relationship & growth as individuals. Its probably a long time that they ever had conflicting emotions/different viewpoints w/eachother so it's nice to see how they both will handle it. Judging from the spoilers, its something Im looking forward to.

Now I see why I like about epi 45-46. I like it because these episodes showed conflicts between NQ-SS. Their relationship is far from ideal, especially if we compare it to dramas in general. Still, I like it because it is not cliche and predictable and, more over, it has 'depth'. 

 

I'll put this into spoilers for those who havent watched epi 45-45 :

 

 

 


I agree that NQ wants to have them (SS-MSS) both. He is a represntation of real life men :P , who is not ideal but, in my case, is understandable for his current situation. First, SS is still very young and their relationship is like a family all this time. Secondly, he has nobody to teach him what to do and what's right or wrong, nor he has a very good example around him. So, he has to learn things by experiencing them, including romance and how to treat girls

I cant expect him to be sensitive towards SS's feelings (when he arrived at home), because he has used to tell her everything. Now, there is this girl that he likes, why cant he bring her home and show her to SS? 

He is also too preoccupied by other things, like learning to cultivate and get revenge. Recently, he lost someone precious to him and he even joined to devil. All of his efforts to enter the Academy could be lost, and he could even be chased by the Good sect because of that.  With all of this happening to him, I dont think he has the time to take a look into himself and analyze what he really feels about girls or how complex SS's heart is. 
 

 

 

Now, the writer and the director have to make this part right, that is, NQ's 'learning curve' on romance . If it's done right, then the whole MSS arc will end satisfyingly. Afterall, EN (Season 1) is mostly about the growth of NQ. 

 

Thanks @satanghaesolim for the translation

 

@angelangie, yeah ..the drama overdid MSS's part and NQ-SS's quarrel . This conflict is already complex enough, and adding unnecessary things will make the viewers get the wrong ideas

 

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19 minutes ago, rhaps said:

Now, the writer and the director to make this part right, that is, NQ's 'learning curve' on romance . If it's done right, then the whole MSS arc will end satisfyingly. Afterall, EN (Season 1) is mostly about the growth of NQ. 

 


@satanghaesolim

@angelangie

 

 After reading the translations for ep 45 I am slowly trusting the writer/director especially that conversation between SS and the other maid because it shows that even SS is confused about her own feelings and does not know how to she is supposed to define her relationship with NQ.  So I am now just gonna look at the whole NQ-MSS arc as something that in the drama had to be really believable as a romantic option for NQ  because it just gives more depth and meaning to the confusion that NQ and SS are feeling right now. 

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Wow. I really like this discussion:D

It is indeed NQ wanna have SS stays with him forever but at the same time he also wants to have side dish which is mss. Now I get confused over the conversation in the novel between NQ and SS in her parent's house.

 

Based on webnovel:

This was a world that had been born from great difficulty, however, cracks had finally formed in the old world, and it was about split or regroup. Changes were about to occur in the order of this world, but it was not known if it would be towards the light or the darkness. Perhaps there would be a large explosion and a new world would be formed.

Ning Que looked at Sangsang and said solemnly, "We have to make this clear. I will definitely marry no matter what, we can't just live like how we have for the rest of our lives."

Sangsang frowned at him slightly, feeling as if there was something off with his words.

"Sorry, I said it wrong because I was too nervous." Ning Que hit the back of his head forcefully and said again, "We will spend our lives together, without a doubt."

Following that, he continued, "But I do have to get married, I know that you might find it hard to accept in a short time, and I understand how you feel right now..."

Sangsang suddenly asked, "You said that we will definitely spend the rest of our lives together?"

Ning Que answered with certainty, "It is necessary!"

Sangsang said, "And you have to get married."

Ning Que nodded.

Sangsang said, "You have to spend your life with someone else if you get married, how are you going to spend your life with me then?"

It was indeed a problem, but it wasn't an issue for the thick-skinned Ning Que. He smiled and answered, "We can still spend our lives together even if I get married."

Sangsang turned to look at Mrs. Zeng. "Are there any sons of imperial court officials who are still unmarried?"

 

In my humble opinion, I dont find NQ mentioning anything related to MSS. At first, I waa quite confused with this kinda conversation. Then, I was somehow thinking finally I found the answer which is related to the next chapter when he was yelling and scolding the yanming lake:D

 

When NQ says, "he have to get married first", I assumed he was talking about them. He never mention mss's name either. Why he never mentioned its about them. I assumed the below conversation:

Ning Que looked at Sangsang and said solemnly, "We have to make this clear. I will definitely marry no matter what, we can't just live like how we have for the rest of our lives."

Sangsang frowned at him slightly, feeling as if there was something off with his words.

"Sorry, I said it wrong because I was too nervous." Ning Que hit the back of his head forcefully and said again, "We will spend our lives together, without a doubt."

 

at the Yanming lake, he said very clearly:

"Are you asking whether I have ever thought of marrying you?"

"Alright, I admit that I would occasionally think about marrying you when you grow up. But you are still a girl, and I've only thought about it. Would I really say it out loud? What if you get embarrassed and try to chop me up with a chopper when I say that? Even if you don't want to chop me up, who knows how many people out there would like to do that?"

"Furthermore, even if I wanted to marry you, it doesn't affect me liking some other people, does it?"

 

He doesnt say, he wanted to marry another girl, but "Furthermore, even if I wanted to marry you, it doesn't affect me liking some other people, does it?".

So, meaning, even though they finally get married, it is okay as well for him to LIKE another girl. Again, he never mentions he wanted to marry both SS and MsS. So, only SS. NQ never says straight forward to SS what he was thinking about are of because she still a minor, second, he fears of rejection:D

 

Sorry for the longgggg list. I know some of you might disagree with my view, but again, its just my humble opinion:D

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