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Okay.

 

I still don't know why the mom had to die. It could have easily been avoided. Unnecessary death. But perhaps it was the only thing that would have pulled NS back from his thoughts. He realized it all too late which is very sad. And something humans do: taking anything for granted. 

 

While i am glad there is a happy ending, I feel the ending is rushed. Quite some loopholes we had here. 

 

I just spent 8 episodes watching NS go jealously bratty with NS3 and every one else only to see that his mother died and then he redeemed himself and became good? Something doesn't add up. One thing i don't like about kdramas is the wrap up of the climax to ending. Beginnings are always good. Middle episodes get interesting and then as we reach towards ending, everything becomes loose and rushed. One thing i am glad is the relationship between NS and SB remained the same. It would be weird to see them fall in love haha. 

 

I may be one of the few who actually don't mind NS3 with SB. Heck, he looks so real even i wouldn't know haha. The development of NS3 and SB made me enjoy their moments together. Watching NS3 question himself and then slowly growing attracted to her was sweet. But..i still have a problem with why the mom had to die. And Seo only got jail time? Dang..for the crimes he committed, I was expecting some harsh pay back. The good one dies. The bad one goes to jail. At least he lost what his purpose was then <_< if i don't accept it, my mind will keep arguing back and forth.

 

Overall, nice drama! Awesome ost! Outstanding performances from the cast especially our human and robot hero! I am going to be watching his next dramas! Gotta see that smile of his! :wub:

 

I thoroughly enjoyed this drama.

 

@Kasmic haha for some reason, i don't feel completely satisfied with this finale. Everything felt fast and rushed for me. Didn't spazz as much as i did at Monarch lol. Maybe because i didn't have to throw too much shoes and frying pans with this one :joy:

 

see you all in another drama chingus! ;)

 

 

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8 hours ago, bkchild said:

Human beings only learn with initial input just like NS3. If you leave a baby to fend for itself and give it no social input it won't know how to interact with people. They won't have many characteristics that you'd say all human beings should have. We're social learning creatures, and so is NS3.

 

Your brain rewires itself constantly based on new information. The different people around you, the media you consume, the experiences you have, where you live, the environment (weather) etc etc. Your brain is the 'human heart' that's making decisions for you at all times. We're just electrical signals. Very complicated electrical signals that differ per person, but electrical signals all the same. That's how AI is currently made, using our brains and how they function (particularly young children because they develop neural pathways based on external stimulus more frequently and faster and more efficiently) as a template. And because it's not developed in the exact same manner, with the same particles and atomic structure, and time even, it's not quite human. And NS3 isn't human, that's been his journey. Not pretending to be human but accepting that he's still his own person. A robot person with his own sense of self that's been made by the experiences he's had with so many people. He learned to feel things (or learned that he was feeling things all along) because he was treated like someone who has feelings. That's close to how when we grow we learn to control/articulate how we're feeling and learn what emotional responses/ social cues we should have in different scenarios. It's why kids act so weird lol.

 

To answer the question of who he's learning from? He said it in episode 17, he is who he is because of So Bong. She was the first person to tell him he had personhood. And just like a human being who might've been told they're just something to be used and to not act on their own, just that simple thing sparks something in their brains and starts changing how they think and act and see themselves. He's seeing and learning differently than we are because he's not human but conceptually it's the exact same. 

 

The drama is trying to challenge pretty much everything you said lol, so it's a good discussion to have. What is 'human'? Is it goodness? Because in that case Jong Gil isn't human at all. Is it just being born? Because in that case it's nothing special or anything to aspire to, like we've seen in the drama and like So Bong said, there are a lot of awful people. Not being human isn't a crime or lesser than it's just different. And the drama challenged us on what makes a person good or bad. NS3 will never be a human being but him learning to EXIST as his own person is similar and important. Nam Shin would've been much different if he got to be raised by his mom and dad. He'd probably be a lot like NS3. Parallel with NS3 whos a robot but the same rules apply, if he had someone 'raising' him who was bad he could've been hurting people. Like if he'd learned about the potential for personhood from bad people like Grandpa or Jong Gil for example. 

 

Thank you for your comments.  You have articulated so well the things I had also thought of.  Just as what @Rollito Deprimavera had also said about pre-programming, I get it.   It is almost as if this show is saying that the heart is just and organ whilst the head is the central control.  And while we are at it, good and bad doesn't seem all that significant because a robot would make decision based on the highest possibility or at least a set of parameters (like in NS3's case - to save people).  Contrast it to humans whose heart may override the head in many decisions.  
 

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[Are You Human Too?] Finale

 

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[Are You Human Too?] FINALE Ep 35 Happy ending, Robot Namshin kisses Gong Seung Yeon

 

Article: Naver 'Are You Human' Robot Namshin kisses Gong Seung Yeon, happy ending

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  • Oh Ro Ra (Kim Sung Ryeong) dies. 
  • Robot Namshin (Seo Kang Joon) was shot and fell into the sea. 
  • Seo Jong Gil (Yu Oh Seong) goes to jail. 
  • Robot Namshin comes back a year later to reconcile with Kang So Bong (Gong Seung Yeon). He became more like human without his abilities, and he is able to tear up. 

1. [+1142,-26]
It's good that it was a happy ending. I've enjoyed watching the drama so much. Thank you!!!
 
2. [+1161,-50] 
Seo Kang Joon has to get an award. He really is qualified to receive one. I was so absorbed in the drama. You've worked hard, really.
 
3. [+817,-28]
On Seo Kang Joon's articles, people normally praise his handsome face, but now more people are leaving comments that his acting is good. He is filming The Third Charm now, so we can see him in September again, that's good.
 
4. [+418,-10]
Seo Kang Joonhasshowed us his acting skills properly.
 
5. [+269,-9]
I was about to destroy the TV if robot Namshin doesn't come back.
 
6. [+168,-4]
I watched this drama to kill time at first, but as it moves on, every episode has a plot twist with a strong story. The actors have excellent acting too. Especially when Namshin's mother dies, Seo Kang Joon's (Namshin3) acting without his eyes red, I was surprised to watch that. A
cting that will go down in history, this isn't an exaggeration. The people who didn't watch it, when you have the time, please watch it. I recommend that you begin watching from the start.
 
7. [+104,-4]
I dare to say that he is one of the top male actors in their 20s. Visual, acting skill, physical, Seo Kang Joon has everything. I will believe in you and watch your dramas in the future.
 
8. [+94,-0]
Robot Namshin has evolved,  actor Seo Kang Joon has evolved too.

 

 

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p/sthe moment when sobong keeps cried for sake of missing ns3, i thought hes gone for good.. 

and then BAM! he appears *my heart exploded lol* :sweat_smile:

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14 hours ago, tatusii said:

is he still NS3 or now NS4??

are they reboot him or make him from scratch ?

 

Each version has a different face and seems about a decade apart, so an easy way I can think of...haha

NS1: up till 10 yo

NS2: up till 20 yo

NS3: up till 30 yo

NS4: up till 40 yo

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I could not log on to soompi last night! anyways i agree with @vangsweetie637 about how kdrama endings are usually rushed. this one did feel rushed and i was not expecting much and even thought at the beach scene it would end with NS just walking behind SB as an 'open ending' lol! I was pouring with tears though! I was so glad they fixed NS3. I love NS3 and SB together. Yes i'm not too sure what'll happen in there future as NS3 is not a human but that's what this genre of sci fi is for ahah (who knows with technology advances anything nothing may be impossible in the future!). It would have been nice to see some interaction between NS and NS3 in a more brotherly way but not enough time! 

 

Imo overall a pretty good drama and a happy ending imo!! I've watched SKJ and GSY's dramas when they were just starting out and a couple of others and am loving them even more! I'm really liking these fantasy/sci-fi themed kdramas, when they're done well they turn out pretty nice and enjoyable (like this drama and one of my other favs - circle!)

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@jeijeiLee Joon Hyuk broke protocol. The first drama where his hair is up & he remained a good guy right to the end.  :lol:

 

Will miss him . He had pretty decent screen time throughout even though he was second fiddle to SKJ’s Shin-man & Shin-bot. 

 

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Though the wrap up party was a Long time ago but this lil actor just  released the photos ( he was also in the recently completed Life on Mars )

With omma 

Spoiler

 

Many more on his IG

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@triplem Finally, I was able to watch the last episode. I actually liked the ending. Sure, it has its flaws like for example SJG's minion was not in jail or we didn't get to see much of NS3 interacting with NS. I think, the death of the mother does make sense to me. Only through the loss, NS started viewing things differently. He lost his rage... then witnessing how NS3 sacrificed himself in order to save him was a an eye-opening for NS. I think, it would have been great if we had one more episode. 

 

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Looks like my expectations were just too high after one year of waiting for this drama because the only thing that really kept me going was the tin can couple. The story wasn't that great and had a lot of unnecessary things like turning human Shin into an evil villain to just give him a weak attempt of a redemption arc within the last four/two episodes (Did everyone suddenly forget about his attempted murder of his grandpa and SB? Using NS3 as his murder weapon.). When he cried because of his mom's death I couldn't feel sorry for him since he treated her like trash the whole time after he woke up.

 

And like other people mentioned Laura's death was such a waste and only for shock value since NS3 would've survived those falling barrels, but not her. Should've killed off human Shin instead. Really stupid, but overall the show treated its female characters really poorly. Hope GSY will get a better project in the future.

 

17 hours ago, fanofr said:

Yah, I didn't like the romance part between NS3 and SB.  Say what you want, he's still just a robot.  Would you want a perfect robot or a real man, flaws and all?!  

 

 

Didn't you inform yourself before starting to watch the drama? It was clear since Day 1 that the romance would be between NS3 & SB. And the writers made human NS just too unlikable to ship him with SB (and not to forget how toxic their relationship is). Btw, NS3 lost all his robot powers after David "fixed" him (that guy isn't as skilled as Laura was). Now, the only real downside is that he doesn't age.

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Not gonna lie. For a minute there I thought NS and SB were going to kick it :smirk:

 

Anyway, just like some of you, I felt the ending was a bit rushed. At least one more episode was needed to tie some loose ends.

- I don't understand how come Seo's sidekick wasn't in jail as well.

- How did David fix NS3/NS3 2.0 (have no idea if it was an upgrade, granted he mentioned that NS spent some resources trying to retrieve NS3, so it makes sense that even though he is intelligent, he isn't a genius like Dr. Oh thus the loss of some of NS3 capabilities)

- Did the "Three Musketeers" (David, NS, and YH - yes they have become a singles men squad :D ) were all in on it regarding NS3 repairing during that all year? (bastards letting SB suffer)

- And that open ending----> how/why/when did he start to cry? Did David install like a fluids system in NS3 that triggered by a certain emotion/collection of data processed he produced tears? (remember when Dr. Oh died he wished terribly that he was able to cry).

 

Overall, I did enjoy this drama. Okay, let me say it: I LOVED IT! The acting SKJ (NS/NS3)  and KSY (SB) were brilliant. Actually, there wasn't a single actor that I felt could be replaced. All amazing!!! ^_^

I take my hat off for the production crew: CGI, the soundtrack, the locations were they shot. And some of the scenes were just beautiful to watch (that back hug in the snow everyone??? Oh it melted me!).

 

I'm eager to see future works from our couple! Specially KSY :)

 

It was a great ride, everyone! Bumpy but super worth it :) Enjoyed all of your comments/jokes/opinions and specially the recaps (damn lagging internet connection:P) !

 

Thanks so much and hope to mingle in another drama thread! Btw, any suggestions? 

 

Kiss kiss from Portugal!!!

 

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On 8/7/2018 at 12:55 AM, sheza said:

 

There is this part where Robot Namshin said that he likes SB because she sees him for who he is.  I don't think I can accept this part of a robot having an identity of its own because it is too illogical.  A robot can only make decisions based on prior input.  Which means that SB is the one who has given him that idea that she likes him for who he is but what effect would this mean for the robot when it comes to decision making?

I do not see Human Namshin as evil.  The way he behaved from the very start was a guise he puts up to protect himself.  Whatever he has done to the robot, deep down I do not think he meant it for evil.  Think about it, what would you have done if you woke up one day and there's another you almost claiming your life in such a real way that it caused a great disruption.    The way Namshin staged the whole airport scene keeping even his bestie in the dark tells me that there's more to Namshin than it meets the eye.  We actually still do not know what he is thinking even though we may not like some of his actions.  I believe we have yet to see the real heart of NamShin yet.  Will we see it?  I don't know.  I will decide if it is worth watching after the finale.  

I will reply to this soon. I am almost finished. I'm so sad. Wait I'm curious. Did you decide if it's worth watching after the finale?

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7 hours ago, bebebisous33 said:

@triplem Finally, I was able to watch the last episode. I actually liked the ending. Sure, it has its flaws like for example SJG's minion was not in jail or we didn't get to see much of NS3 interacting with NS. I think, the death of the mother does make sense to me. Only through the loss, NS started viewing things differently. He lost his rage... then witnessing how NS3 sacrificed himself in order to save him was a an eye-opening for NS. I think, it would have been great if we had one more episode. 

 

I thought the ending was appropriate too. But it did feel rushed . A lot of things had to be told rather than shown. 

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NS3 sacrificing himself for Shin somewhat allowed the former to fulfill what he was designed to do . In human terms perhaps can be seen as fulfilling his destiny or potentials. It is self actualisation which is the final & most advance need of humans, after other basic needs have been met. He was made as a replacement for Shin to fill the void for mum who pined for her Son. That’s why he had to meet Shin to tell him his mum always had him (Shin ) in his heart . His role changed over the course of the drama to one who became the protector of  Shin. So at the end he signalled to Shin to keep quiet & took his place , getting shot in the process. Therefore I can see why the writer needed to take this route - they needed to show that he has the ability to have compassion & self-sacrifice that humans are capable of. He maximised his potentials . 

 

His resurrection at the end was more of a fan service & to keep things happy . And because it was all done in a rush , it felt a little out of place . Not complaining since i have a soft spot for NS3 . But somehow it lacked the emotional impact that I wanted. 

 

All in all this was an entertaining ride. Was unpredictable at parts & had a unique storyline. Not perfect & given that it was pre-produced with a large Budget,  I expected better pacing especially towards the end . But overall a good production. SKJ in particular  was marvellous at portraying two different characters . Definitely his best role to date. 

 

 

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1 hour ago, topazeyedgirl said:

Not gonna lie. For a minute there I thought NS and SB were going to kick it :smirk:

 

 

Me too, not gonna lie either! NS was so worried when SB want to confront the baddies in the bridge. And this scene tho.. confusing for my poor heart hahaha. 2 SKJ and 1 GSY can have so many chemistry.. and both shippable :wub:

 

1 hour ago, topazeyedgirl said:

Thanks so much and hope to mingle in another drama thread! Btw, any suggestions? 

 

 

No idea how to move on from this drama hahaha. Post drama withdrawal syndrome kicked in. So many memorable and swoon scene. NS breaking glass and NS3 stopped the car are my favourite. I think i will remember this drama for long time.

 

And i guess we have to wait for next SKJ/GSY project.I only know Something about us and third charm for SKJ tho.

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I've already spoken at length about me thinking Nam Shin was eating up the show in the last few weeks, so I'm not gonna get into that for the final episode. I'll just say I'm glad NS3 and So Bong get to be happy. I wish Jong Gil had just died but that's not who NS3 is and that's why we love him. Everything he did was out of respect and love for what his mother and So Bong wanted for him, and he was like that up until the end (thankfully he got a second life!) even at the expense of his own life which is all I want. So Bong helping the man she cannot stand because NS3 makes her a better person was also poetic. Having her untie him I mean. All the corporate crap and murder plots is ancillary to the story I cared about and they individually and together got a fitting end so that's what I'll take away from the drama. 

 

We had a good run! I'm looking forward to both actors projects in the future. May she get more rough and tumble roles where she gets to be active, and may he get more sweethearts who'd do anything for their ladies. 

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On 8/7/2018 at 11:44 PM, fanofr said:

Yah, I didn't like the romance part between NS3 and SB.  Say what you want, he's still just a robot.  Would you want a perfect robot or a real man, flaws and all?!  

 

I would absolutely want a (almost) perfect robot that treated me with love and respected my own agency enough to inspire me to better my own self and always strives to help people no matter what lol. As long as they have their own personhood and ability to share in our lived experiences for sure he's a real person. So Bong after her bad life experience found someone who's perfect for her. I'm sure for another woman who wasn't So Bong his social weirdness and frankness or something of that nature wouldn't be for her but those are his own flaws. All most people want in life is companionship and someone who treats them right, loves them, will be true to them, and has good morals. In this drama it's a robot, in another it's Superman. Or another alien. Or a ghost. etc. But in all those dramas/shows we know from day 1 that it's the route they want to go on and you gotta make a decision on whether 'girl loves a ghost' or 'girl loves a robot' is for you and watch/don't watch accordingly because that's the story they want to tell. 

 

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I’m still confused about one thing that I’m not sure was ever answered. The assumption wa that NS went to Czech to meet his mom. NS reveals after he wakes up from coma that he went there for another reason, the confirm something. We then also find out he knew about his father’s death (albeit they never went into detail about how much he knew except not enough to not be manipulated by Seo and the recording making it sound like grandpa was the culprit). So the million dollar question is, what was he trying to confirm by going to Czech Republic?

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