[Drama 2016] Doctors 닥터스

[bebebisous33]

56 minutes ago, SukBin said:

In my point of view the true threat to our OTP comes from In Joo rather than SW... because for all her cruelness SW is only a impulsive, childish girl desperately trying to match her father's overbearing demands for her.... whereas In Joo seems straight up manipulative and calculative personality.... she knew exactly what to say to break HJ's heart and make her stay away from JH even without her lifting a finger.... In Joo looks like a person who can prey on other's deepest fears and insecurities for her own advantage.... I just hope our OTP gets sufficient time to strengthen their bond and HJ to overcome her insecurities because In Joo the proverbial antagonist will be coming soon too test their bond and HJ's self-confidence...

So true. She appears to be nice and she is all smiling, but deep down, she is much more manipulative than SW. She used the opportunity of the scandal to get a chance to get closer to JH than before. She wanted him as a doctor so that she could stay next to him, he was sent away to the USA. Not only that: she told him, she would take care of HJ, yet she didn't do anything. I am quite sure, she was glad that HJ refused her help because due to that, In Joo could say to JH that she had no idea what HJ was doing right now.  In Joo was manipulating JH as well and honestly, I am doubting that he has realised it yet. You could sense his guilt, when he remembered the last time he spoke with In Joo. Although he already knows that SW can be mean, he has done nothing to really stop her. He never dared to say something negative to her... so with In Joo he will have a similar attitude first because he sees In Joo even less negative than SW. 

@UnniSarah @angelangie I have been thinking again about the black hole from Doo Sik. What if the Chairman is not really responsible for the car accident, but he is feeling guilty because JH's parents couldn't be saved due to the bad conditions at the hospital. I have noticed that when his parents were in the ER, JH had to ask a doctor to come to look at his parents. Maybe at that time, the Chairman was thinking like JMJ and had decided to cut down the ER so that that day, there were not enough doctors to treat the patients so that JH's parents died. MAybe they could have been saved, but due to these circumtances, they were treated too late. This could explain:

- why the Chairman is so against the idea to manage a hospital like a business and

- why he supported the orphanage where JH was living and decided that it was not enough to put his mind at ease.

- why later JH will come to support the vision of his adoptive father  

[rori0711]

10 hours ago, jadecloud said:

For PSH, I hope to see her fight again. YHJ a PRO? Wow! I hope this line wasn't thrown in just for that upper elbow punch and high kick to show  YD. PSH's amazing as a fighter. It never occurred to me that she is this sporty and supple, and so natural it is so surreal. (I plan to sub the BTS of her opening fight scene, loving the way she moves. Amazing!) YHJ/PSH FIGHTING!

For JiHye OTP...I can't help but hold on to hopes and anticipation of more 'Guaranteed Honey Jam' that the Making on Boxing vid has suggested. The cat is out of the bag. Yup, from the direct source - PD-nim/Production House. How can we not go crazy and anticipate more HONEY SWEETNESS? Bet y'all are too hehe Darn, I wish we are not watching from SBS but from tvN or JTBC. *wink* But, so far so good. Not complaining. just saying....Jinja-yo SBS. Give us more, intoxicate us viewers, we can be drunk on JiHye and Doctors. Juseyo?  Writer-nim and PD-nim, wonderful cast.... we are WATCHING you!    

Of course, Doctors is more than just JiHYe OTP. I'd love to see the backstories and the unfolding of politics and power-struggle of GIMC, and how it will affect our main cast. And yes, bring us back to happy galpals days too. I've my thots on SW too, for another post.

@evkid @Jalhanda @Ayame @Kasmic @inshara2000 @Bookworm95 @sleepinthegarden @shinhyefan (if I've missed anyone, please pardon. this thread is swooshing away! LOL) Thank you guys for your thank yous. That was precious wasn't it? I was giggling away as I was subbing the boxing BTS. How can any fangirl not love KRW errr I mean HJH now? And how can anyone not find PSH so lovely and amazing? I'm falling in love with this OTP every day! Deeper and deeper... how not to? If anyone has an anti-love potion, please please tell me!  Btw, @Ayame that instagram link does not lead to any vid. 

@drmjs Hey hey chingu. You finally jumped in! Welcome! Always love your insights. I'm so glad you touched on the designation and hierarchy. And I agree with you about YD, HJ, SW and JH in the handling of that (aneurysm) patient and the surgery. I also rest in the comfort and ease of knowing HJH is also in the operation theatre, as HJ's partner. So, on that aspect alone, I thought it was passable that the operation went ahead. If I'm not reading wrongly, I believe it's prob not a new or rare operation for HJ. Also, I believe HJ's mantra as a doctor is always for the betterment of the patient, which of course would have come about due to the way her grandma had died in the operation room by a callous doctor, SW's dad. 

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@sleepinthegarden I think you may have mis-read my post if you've tried to click on the blue words as a link. Pardon the confusion. Here's the LINK  again (for you and any other Patient who may have missed it)...ENJOY  

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thank you @jadecloud for this wonderful subbed bts. This is too funny and enjoyable.

SH: Are you really hurt?

RW: Just acting. continue.

RW: Please go over there for a while. I'm very tired.

SH: lol

PD: (to RW) don't look at me. Look at Hye Jung. 

RW: it's a little awkward.

RW: We start from here (in satoori dialect)

SH: laughs

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Don't we loved this sequence more after watching the bts? Our OTP's rapport is really good no wonder it explodes on screen.

It feels surreal seeing Shinhye with her sunbae Raewon. After Baeksang 2015, i wish for these two to work together in a romcom film, though i'm very much aware that they do excel also in melodrama. Not all actors can do comedy but these two are flexible. They have the ability to express themselves comically without being over acting. And now that we have Doctors, i can say that they are perfect for the roles. 

On the other hand, I'm hoping that writer can pull herself together and give us some depth to the story. Our OTP are doing great. Supporting casts are fantastic, but without solid story, actors can only do much. I hope writer & PD won't get blindsided with ratings but go beyond deeper. The drama started out very good, it's time to thicken the conflict. Would be great if they can show us some serious doctor's in action afterall, it's their title. Doctors' team fighting!

[rameennoodles]

1 hour ago, ktcjdrama said:

I foresee more backstory surfacing, esp.on JH's past. Haha, I just couldn't believe we're given such a perfect flawless male lead. I'm sure later on he's got some things/emotions he needs to resolve too from the past, and I can't wait to see HJ being his source of support and comfort when he breaks down.

yup for sure! i expect to see more of ji hong's past in future episodes. wasn't there a teenaged actor who was supposed to play younger ji hong  during the first script reading?

[heartoppaya]

21 minutes ago, ktcjdrama said:

I kinda feel the same way. Not only that, she may try using the getting-Dad-on-her-side card. In fact, I was thinking later on in the story, SW may just cross over to help HJ and JH be together instead of allying together with IJ. Don't know how, but I do hope SW and HJ's friendship will be restored.

I gather it from the last scene they were together before the 13-year separation. When she decidedly chose to ignore phone calls from JH after her grandma's death. She flashed back to convo with IJ. If IJ never told her about how she and JH belongs together, I think HJ would have accepted help from JH. But instead, she chose to leave him and to survive on her own. Whether she actually realized/acknowledged it as romantic feelings or not at that time, it is indeed an act of love for JH to protect his reputation (trying to clear up scandal with SW), and not burden him (her coping with grandma's death), and for hoping he'll have a good future with IJ. She cried and held back her tears when walking away from him. If you've got no feelings at all for a person, you wouldn't be sad leaving that person.

Btw, who else think HJ-JH have similar face features? What the Chinese would call 夫妻脸 (husband-wife-face). Just look at the pic of them running in the rain under his coat.

I wonder why this drama has 20 ep. instead of the usual 16. I foresee more backstory surfacing, esp.on JH's past. Haha, I just couldn't believe we're given such a perfect flawless male lead. I'm sure later on he's got some things/emotions he needs to resolve too from the past, and I can't wait to see HJ being his source of support and comfort when he breaks down.

Oh... That is true. I didn't think of that. So its no more a one way street. That's a relief. Because I really love seeing JH be all romantic and swoony. KRW is one of my favorite actors because of that. Also, although I wasn't a huge fan of PSH when Heirs came out, I'm actually absofuckinglutely loving her here. More gangster strong women roles here please! Thanks for clearing that out for me @ktcjdrama I didn't necessarily wanted to be rude. Most of my peeps know me as pervy and funny. Heee.

 

[bebebisous33]

@SukBin I have also been thinking that In Joo might have also be the one who "helped" him to look for HJ, when he came to SK and each time, she gave him false information saying that she couldn't find her. She used this strategy to buy some time but after a while, she realised that she couldn't win against HJ. Another thing: why did everyone think that In Joo was married to JH? I am thinking, she might have spread the rumours herself and SW's "friend" is not aware of it.

[kate_USA]

SBS is not being nice to us Where is the teaser to Ep 7??? Maybe everyone is busy planning a Sooni Hawaii Party for Doctors.  Imagine, everyone show up at that party  

[Jalhanda]

16 hours ago, USAFarmgirl said:

 

My hope for the second question is JH saying lets give love & us a chance.  With so many male characters in our view and hers as well who have all been moved one way the other by HJ.  And also with so much still ahead it would lead you to believe a love triangle or so could happen.  Of course SW will most likely continue to mess with HJ until something or someone gives her a high kick and changes her heart.  Which for some reason I'm hoping for.  I'm not sure why but my mind keeps wondering that it won't be another Man that will be the problem but HJ herself.  We all knew & know how JH feels it's written all over him and he is a pro at sharing it through his actions even his Dad knows HJ is in his heart after just once hearing him talk on the phone.

I for one believe HJ was given two things when JH walked into her life.  Inspiration, that by believing in herself she not only could be better through hard work but that she could be the best. Also an introduction to love, love takes many forms at first JH was a stranger messing in her life.  Later he was a teacher at first she must have thought just another adult reminding her of her failures.  It didn't take long for HJ to realize JH was much more than that.  Watching & finding out JH was a doctor seeing him quickly doing everything to save someone.  For her must have been like seeing Clark Kent enter a phone booth and coming out looking like SUPERMAN!  She was beside herself and with a child wrapped around her neck she was given a dream...

Even more she was captured by JH she admired him wanted to know & even be like him.  It's like JH planted the seed of love within her.  She may not have understood everything but she could feel kindness, caring, someone listening, encouraging, friendship, even laughter.  A person who shed some light  & hope into her dark world.  I'm sure of one thing JH took the chains of everyone else saying your worthless except her Grandmother who was her only source of love off of HJ and set her free!!  Allowing her to know no matter what others may say, you can be & do anything if only you yourself believe...

The day that JH ran as fast as he could but in the end didn't grab onto HJ.  And earlier HJ answering with a lie because JH seemed out of her reach believing she wasn't good enough and kept walking.  Was the moment I knew JH was in her heart too...  When I think about this moment it wasn't two people who didn't love each other that stopped them.  It was others and the worlds thinking that did.  NO matter about age or teacher & student and yes it's out of the box even for me but never the less it's what it is.  With tears running down her face, and JH in pain from not holding her back I may not have wanted to believe it but two hearts were left there at that very moment...

When your told your bad, worthless, hopeless, you killed your grandmother just by being near you,  you will never be on JH's level.  Not to mention being deserted and beat on until you believe it too!  These are the scars that didn't stop HJ from fulfilling her dreams of being a doctor.  But I think we all know that those scars didn't disappear with time and I am afraid the episodes ahead will show their damage...

 

@USAFarmgirl....i love your analysis on our OTP....keep it coming.

[dhia205]

3 minutes ago, kate_USA said:

SBS is not being nice to us Where is the teaser to Ep 7??? Maybe everyone is busy planning a Sooni Hawaii Party for Doctors.  Imagine, everyone show up at that party  

imagine SW, JH, YD, YD Uncle in one table with HJ.. that will be a great awkward mess..

JH : Thank You...

HJ : For What??

Me : "for stay alive, for not getting hurt, for not leave me alone.... " why can't he say it out loud 

[Raquel Bastian]

Seriously anticipating my fone notification for new video from SBS hahaha....

[Kasmic]

12 hours ago, stargazer187 said:

Okay, I didn't see the flashback scene of Child HJ with her step-mom like what a clip has shown us before. Did I miss it or it hasn't shown up yet???

80 pages to back read let me gasp with you  

But good point indeed about bringing the abused young HJ back. We've never seen that unseen footage in any of the eps and  despite it being a taboo subject for Koreans, I  still hope they'll put it in. As it will be very unfair for those whom dont follow this thread or dont follow the news of this drama they will miss seeing how abusive stepmom is and that perhaps HJ father isnt the real abuser but it was stepmom. See Im still unsure how negligent her father is and what role he played in HJ abuse as well as her mother's. 

Here it is: http://program.sbs.co.kr/builder/endPage.do?pgm_id=22000009527&pgm_mnu_id=43791&pgm_build_id=16905&contNo=22000181278

 

8 hours ago, bebebisous33 said:

So true. She appears to be nice and she is all smiling, but deep down, she is much more manipulative than SW. She used the opportunity of the scandal to get a chance to get closer to JH than before. She wanted him as a doctor so that she could stay next to him, he was sent away to the USA. Not only that: she told him, she would take care of HJ, yet she didn't do anything. I am quite sure, she was glad that HJ refused her help because due to that, In Joo could say to JH that she had no idea what HJ was doing right now.  In Joo was manipulating JH as well and honestly, I am doubting that he has realised it yet. You could sense his guilt, when he remembered the last time he spoke with In Joo. Although he already knows that SW can be mean, he has done nothing to really stop her. He never dared to say something negative to her... so with In Joo he will have a similar attitude first because he sees In Joo even less negative than SW. 

Nooooo In Joo cannot be manipulative...immature, naive, stubborn blind yes but not manipulative. Back in her internship days of being a Doctor she appeared to be very immature and blind to see JH rejection towards her. Though I partially think he should've made it clearer to her from the start and not after he left HJ. That's men for you!! let's see what a male perspective calling males here @CamelKnight @docster6 @hankitae42 @jeonghyang forgive me for me a lil personal but do you guys find it difficult to reject a woman's advance? hahaha! To answer or not I shall leave that to you?

I fell for her in OMHE and I hope to see her return a lot more wiser and similar to how she was in OMHE.... YAH!!! not another manipulative jealous monster --- we've got SW doing that already. 

7 hours ago, rameennoodles said:

yup for sure! i expect to see more of ji hong's past in future episodes. wasn't their a teenaged actor who was supposed to play younger ji hong  during the first script reading?

YES! im looking forward in seeing young JH. His just a stud as the grown up version. We saw a photo of him with his Foster father and I believe that it was at that age when the Chairman adopted JH. JH is no perfect man... he has some flaws. If you remember the operation that led to the death of a patient was the very reason why he left his profession and became a teacher. But I didnt understand what made him have the courage to go back to it. Was it really saving that pregnant woman that made him realise that he missed being a doctor? or was it the excuse to leave the school to settle the student teacher  love scandal? I hope we see more too.

Some updates of YD now with puppy and LSG

 

[liz-danielle]

5 minutes ago, Raquel Bastian said:

Seriously anticipating my fone notification for new video from SBS hahaha....

me too!

[kilumar]

20 minutes ago, kate_USA said:

SBS is not being nice to us Where is the teaser to Ep 7??? Maybe everyone is busy planning a Sooni Hawaii Party for Doctors.  Imagine, everyone show up at that party  

 no,i think sbs do a good job.just think a little.Its only 7 episode.There is no way becos of live shooting.They just want more excitement from the fan.If i am not wrong they will drop the preview at sat or sun.And then that preview trend on naver.That is the main purporse .They will need to maintain or keep rising the rating.So i think they have some plan behind our back.Don't worry patients . Doctors made our wait worth.just sit still and enjoy our otp moments.like bicycle sence,microscope sence,helli pad sence,confession sence,boxing sence and the last is hug and kiss sence.haha.i already lost count how many i watch them.

[inshara2000]

5 LIFE LESSONS WE'VE PICKED UP FROM 'DOCTORS'

We're only a couple of episodes into new SBS drama Doctors, but already a fandom is brewing. Some are long-time shippers of The Inheritors' star Park Shin Hye (who plays rebel-turned-ace doctor Yoo Hye Jung) while others are glued to their seat by the big-guns-big-heart combo that is teacher Hong Ji Hong, played by Kim Rae Won, who was last seen in thriller drama Punch.

But we reckon that's not the only reason they're sticking – Doctors is packed to the rafters with wisdom and we all know that's the mark of a really good drama. Here are some of our favourites, from just the first 2 episodes:

"Don't cast pearls before swine"

A biblical proverb that basically means don't offer anything sacred to a dog or a pig (figurative ones, of course) or they'll trample on it and then turn against you. Quite a bitter pill to swallow considering Ji Hong told Hye Jung this the first time they met. If he seems harsh, remember that Hye Jung didn't exactly give him any reason to have anything less than a terrible first impression of her!

"The dichotomy of good and evil can't be used to describe people"

Just when you think all the sassing Ji Hong's receiving from Hye Jung and his students is about to make horns appear out of his head, he breaks out a gem like this one. In case you're wondering, he means humans are complex and can't be defined by those two values alone – and he says these about the very people who want to completely ruin him. If that doesn't make him a saint, nothing else will come close!
 

"Don't tell lies you'll easily get caught for"

Some parents might find this to be a little off-the-mark, but Teacher Hong knows that "honesty is the best policy" is for Plain Janes, not his hot-blooded, micro-skirted students. He does have a point though – if you're already going to lie, you'd do better if you make sure you're able to get away with it!

"Getting good grades is a talent in itself"

Remember that the next time you're scribbling poetry or recording a Smule video in class, kids. Students are meant to ace exams and Teacher Hong is very enthusiastic about exams. Besides, with a teacher like Hong Ji Hong at the front of the classroom, isn't that good enough motivation in itself?

"Love comes from the brain, not from the heart"

Expect to hear more lines like "Affection comes from the amygdaloidal nucleus in the limbic system. The brain gives you emotions." – the show is called Doctors, after all. The next time you try to win someone's heart, you'll know the way and it's not through their stomach. Will Hye Jung apply this lesson to Teacher Hong – and will he fall for it?

http://www.onetvasia.com/onescoop/5-life-lessons-weve-picked-doctors

[bebebisous33]

@Kasmic To me, JH made it pretty clear that he was not into her. She was the one who asked him to marry her aso. Her strategy was similar to SW's in my opinion. Sure, you're right. She acted as immature but this doesn't mean that she was immature. SW is also acting as confident but she is not. SW and In Joo appear to be what they are not: nice, confident aso. Both feel insecure next to HJ and they are indeed mean to her.

Besides I don't see In Joo as naive. The words she chose to make sure that HJ wouldn't cling onto JH shows that she knew what she was doing: "JH and you belong to different worlds". She definitely saw HJ as a thread. I know, the actress played a more innocent role in OMHE, but this doesn't mean that she has the same role here. 

[Jemara]

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[inshara2000]

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[cupkate]

Omg you guys..i was thinking for this week it will be 250 pages only...ur really something... any way im patiently waiting for the preview...

[-jade-]

CUT of [MAKING] JiHye OTP in Boxing Gym 

LOL a short version of the wrestling scene.... Funny KRW telling PSH to go to the other side for a while cos he's tired. LOL and PSH felt 'rejected' and LOL curled by the side. KRW immediately grabbed her hand to continue, saying 'I just needed a little while(that was not even a minute! LOL)' cos he couldn't see PSH being 'sad'.... aww so sweet... CUTE OTP  FUNNY KRW & PSH  I can't stop LOLing... HELP! 

PS: Wasn't that a big thump for KRW? The 'bang' was pretty loud. He must be some 80lbs? How could PSH flip him so easily? Whoa!.

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@rori0711 You're welcome chingu. That wrestling BTS is delightfully funny, isn't it? I keep replaying it LOL. Here's another shorter version.^^^

@Ayame No worries and thanks for the new link.  

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DB recapper is entitled to their own opinion. Just because someone dislikes something it doesn't mean all of us have to and vice versa. We are individuals after all. I don't agree with the recapper but it doesn't stop me from loving this show. There is something very addictive about this drama. Also, I hope people watch the drama for themselves and make their own judgements.

Well-said chingu @Tiggie2 I didn't read their recaps. I find this thread has so many awesome recaps and insights, not forgetting the updates of gifs, IGs, weibos, etc, I can't even catch up in time nor backtrack it all yet. Kudos to Patients! Keep on ..

And about that 'something', I bet it's the kkuljaem/honey jam... it got us stuck to either its sticky-sweetness(JiHye) or its sticky situations such as YD/JH/HJ or  YD/HJ/SW/JH/IJ or the political power grab, or hehehe the sticky cheesy lines and so on, making Patients and me wanting more...hehe  I don't know about all of you, but I love cheese and I never get my fill of it. So, bring more on writer-nim, JH-ssi...  

@SukBin don't be down and don't worry if others will be put off. There will always be instances where opinions will differ. There will also always be instances where certain things click with some and not with others. To each his own. As for kdrama viewers, I think they are far more astute than we think. If they just simply take 'bad' comments/reviews and not watch something they'd heard of or intended to, or at least check out one or two eps to decide, then it's just their loss. Doctors is blazing new heights already, and no telling how much higher and farther it will go.  Looking at the trend and the craze (yup, there's the #DocMania in effect, as was also mentioned in Boxing BTS vid), I won't be surprised if Doctors will surpass all records of popular kdramas todate. Let's enjoy our Doctors appointment! 

Btw, hmm... is this a couple to be? They'll be so funny together. Totally compatible.... first with the colored hair-do, then with their bubbly-almost-comical personalities, and their 'crush' on YHJ LOL.... go for it  Anyone rooting for these two to be a couple? LOL I am! 

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[kyonkichi78]

3 hours ago, angelangie said:

 

i know of JiSoo from 'Cheer Up!' love him then and spill over here

i watched bits frm sassy go go n he was gd there but he was better n im loving his character in pageturner. pity tht it was a short 3 ep drama but still, it was really enjoyable n jisoo with all the cast acted well.

i watched tht drama bc it came frm the writer of pinocchio - and i loved pinocchio so much n nt bc im a shinhye fan but bc of the storyline too. i hear ur voice is written by her too n im loving it also. im loving this doctors drama is ofc for sh n the storyline. hope the story gets better nt jst loveline but hospital related too

[Jemara]

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