[Drama 2016] Moon Lovers ❤ Scarlet Heart Ryeo, 달의 연인-보보경심 려 \^0^/ Soompi Kdrama 2016 Winner

[junee22]

@lirone Hi girl!!first,welcome..second..I think you need to backread the thread..well,that is if you have times because the thread is moving with lightning speed..hehe..then you could find the answers that you're looking for..coz many of our friends here had the same question and we had analyse every possibilities.

Well,if you want to know my opinion though..I think the differences in the cut scenes are more because the international vers. actually targeted the international viewers and most of it in china..look at the youku view..they got the int.vers. yet they loved it (1 billion views!!!wow!!). I don't really follow the int.vers.except for ep9 (lololol ) so I don't quite understand how to point on the differences hence I only made this summary from what I've read at other friends comments in this forum thread. I'm sure others who really watch both version could explain it better than me. I think bcoz they targeted mostly on China viewers that's why the int.vers.was edited with scenes that has the most significances story line with the original novel/drama.

While the SBS version is edited base on the preferences of the Kviewers..as a result of the negative responses and feedbacks. Could someone kindly add to this explanation?coz my english is limited so I couldn't seem find the right words.

Anyways,I'm on queu to those who want the Director's Cut DVD (should save more money from now on ). 

[yuhotarubi]

44 minutes ago, kdramakrazy said:

 

Don't worry or cry over netizenbuzz. it only translates negative comments. just rarely does it do positive article

From their website, in their own words, they have clearly mentioned it . Direct quote from their FAQ:-

" Please keep in mind that this blog only focuses on negative content as that is what usually impacts the industry. There are just as much, if not more, articles that receive a positive response on any given day. "

 

Thank you for your reassuring me dear, although I'm quite familiar with netizenbuzz, the flow of bad articles just got to me, you just feel like something dear to you is being attacked ( sounds like and exaggeration but I truly love this drama so much ). But having a loving community like Soompi forums and you guys with all of your amazing posts and love for this drama as well, makes me happy to discover the world of k-drama  

[gifanchy]

 

On 9/20/2016 at 7:40 PM, glacial said:

The reason she's this disturbed and shocked is because the guy she loves is gwang jong. Thats all. Its because she's in love with him so it hit so hard that he's that person.

Exactly! 

On 9/20/2016 at 8:03 PM, hallyus said:

I'm a little bit disappointed with Hae Soo's reaction in this episode. I mean she knows how broken Wang So is, her understanding in ep 8 had my hopes high. I can relate the whole "killing all the brothers" is awful, but the writer has overdone this "killing all the brothers" card to create all Hae Soo's fear towards Wang So. Even if that premonition will happen as the way she sees it, there must be a reason why. She said it herself right? The one who can save herself is no one but her. It is the same for the king. For God's sake, ascending to the throne means you need to sacrifice many for your people. It is not all about the power, but you never know when your allies may turn their backs to you.

THIS THIS THIS.

I guess she's not aware how Goryeo politics works. Well.... she was really poor in History so I'm not really surprised. I'm just mad that the writer made her look so dumb.

And her reaction... It was just overboard. She was literally like this O_O every time she saw Wang So. *sigh* most probably because it was too much for her, she couldn't handle hot and smexy King Wang So/Gwangjong with eyeliner? Lol kidding aside, maybe it really affected her because IT was him. The person she's (unknowingly) attracted to. (Like the one I quoted above from @glacial)~~

6 hours ago, Yippeuni said:

I know right??? I feel sorry for Wook as he is going to loose the girl he love for the first time but what can say...Wook promised her that he will bring back HS to his house and buy all the herbs fill the house with those so HS can make soap..Aigoo...while So he is promise that he will never let HS go not with his permission, even HS cannot die without his permission, he promised her his life to be with her while Wook promised her to buy the herbs for soap....

I'M SORRY BUT THIS MADE ME LAUGH SO HARD HAHAHAHAHAHAHA thank you chingu for making my day! 

[chi13lou]

@lirone  In an interview, LJK mentioned that it will be a happy ending. Of course, happy can mean so many things. As discussed before, we all have our own ideas for a happy ending, particularly with the likelihood of GHJ returning to her body in the 21st century. So we will just have to enjoy the ride and wait and see.

[cherilyn]

Does anyone understand why Haesoo's 'vision' showed the 4th prince killing the 10th and his wife?

I thought in the original Scarlet Heart, the 10th and his wife were the only ones with a 'happy' ending.

Is it a part of the actual history that the 4th kills the 10th, and the writers are just adjusting to include it? Or is the vision actually not showing something real but rather Haesoo's blurred memory of Goryeo history?

[kingpin]

   

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Lee Joon Gi Thanks Fans After “Scarlet Heart: Goryeo” Surpasses 1 Billion Views On Chinese Streaming Site

ilmare42 September 21, 2016

SBS’s historical drama “Scarlet Heart: Goryeo” has been watched over one billion times on the Chinese streaming site Youku!

On September 21, “Scarlet Heart: Goryeo” reached one billion views in total for all the episodes aired so far on Youku, the largest streaming site in Asia.

Lee Joon Gi stars in the drama as the fourth prince Wang So, and has been acclaimed for his acting in the series. His popularity within China right now is illustrated by the fact that he tops the list as the Korean actor who’s currently the most searched for on Weibo.

On September 21, Lee Joon Gi posted a still of himself from the show as well as a Chinese poster to Instagram, writing in English as the caption, “Thank you 1 billion angels!! Love you all.”

Soompi

[TAoJC]

4 hours ago, iridescentmoth said:

Another way I construed the forced kiss is this is how So is physically silencing a verbal betrayal from the lips of someone who promised she wouldn't.

He's so desperate to impede her rejection that had it been another person, he would have cut them down with his sword. But here he is physically consuming her hurtful words whilst simultaneously trying to communicate just how much he needs her. 

 WOW Such a beautiful post !!!!

[gifanchy]

*inhales* *exhales* WHEW FINALLY! It took me 1 day to catch up and read 30 pages. Lol. You guys are like So when he takes out his sword, fast and furious!! *swoosh swoosh* 

Anyways, about the recent episodes, I had a lot to say and wanted to share but I already forgot them.  But there were some who posted whose insights I really agreed on and were on point so I gave y'all a like.  I read every post and I appreciate all your views/opinions about Hae Soo's behavior, Wang So's feelings, Eun & Soon Deok's marriage, Yo's jealousy, etc.

I have to admit I was disappointed in Hae Soo for saying "You will ruin everything! Leave!". What's worse is that, she said it while shouting. For So's POV, imagine hearing that from someone you love, the only person you trusted, the reason for your smile, and let's face it, she's probably his only reason to live. No one treated him normally except her. She showed concern. Saw him at his worst and instead of getting scared, she worried more about his wound. Didn't judge him for his appearance. Cared for him. She was all his reasons.

Which is why, I have a wishful thinking. That when she decides to reciprocate his feelings, I want her to be the first one to initiate it... be it a hug, a kiss (kissing his forehead then his scar would be perfect), or simply a heartwarming confession like  "I love you"... something that he'll only hear from her. Because it was always So who's chasing her. I want to see her afraid. Afraid of losing him. It would be nice if she'll do it right after she sees him coughing out blood or when she learns that he did it for her. Gosh. Why do I love angst.

Anyway, thanks for reading. *back to being a lurker* hehe

[cyriatan]

Hi!

I had a hard time understanding Soo in ep.9, to be frank. I think focusing on the fact that she's afraid of WS because of the killings, or because of her feeling, etc....I don't know, in previous episode -and one of her first scenes with WS, also- she calmly says to understand how in this period you have to kill to live. With a man full of blood and saying he had just killed people in front of her. She was so calm I remember my shock from the scene. She gets in a relationship with a man who confesses to have killed someone at young age (Wook). I don't think she's afraid of Wang So because he kills people, or you know, because he's "brutal". She knows that already. Didn't bother her before. If she were to be someone having deep trouble accepting the historical differences, well...I fear there won't be a drama to see! HS needs to be like that so she can adapt and get to love the people from the period. 

What I took from the ep. was how continuosly Soo talked about her responsability. "Is this because of me?". I think this is the moment when the fact of being in Goryeo really hit her. There are many scenes when she seems to sunk in reality: the Eun-King marriage scene is one. "In this world, the word of the king can change your life". It's okay to think "Yeah, in the Goryeo era you had to kill to survive, I get that"  but it's really different to think "I AM KILLING" or "someone I know is actually dying". Of course she hasn't killed anyone! But she got a harsh glass of "you are an historical subject in this period now, you have impact". I think the worries of HS of being a time-traveler weren't developed because this drama is not really about time-travel, but she has been really...adaptative. I think it finally hit her emotionally that she can't be just a viewer from the future. Not from her position (dealing with the future kings).

The Hae Soo I know would seek out context and prioritize real experience, she's been spunky and practical as a character consistently. I don't think she loves him yet or her fear has anything to do with romantic expectations. She's just scared of her own responsability, of being in Goryeo, of dealing with hard, unnaceptable things, and also from "seeing the future". Well I'd freak out just from the fact that I foresee things...even if they were awesome. So my conclusion is that she's in shock, her reality became too complex and hard to manage and thus the exaggerated reactions. Also I think IU may have made too much of a fuss in her acting, her eyes must have been dry after filming all of those scenes... (I think she's doing okay in general, this was just too much I think...). In the midst of shock she just sees violence, brutality and no reason or context for Wang So actions, and feels just fear. Wang So became in her eyes the animal, non-rational (as in with a cause) violence all the other expect him to be. She's just not rationalizing anything,...her chain of thoughts about what she sees have been non-existent. All her thoughts were about her impact. 

I haven't seen the chinese drama so I don't know exactly why or how the poison scene happens, but I have a feeling that or something similar will take Soo out of catatonia and bring her to reality (in the sense of starting to catch the political ties and turns and seeing that for example, Wang So may be in danger, like the Crown Prince and all the others..."Has there been any king whose hands were not stained with the blood of his brothers before?"), where she starts seeking context, seeing Wang So as the person she knows and start being more practical, as in "okay how does this evolve and where do I have to butt in to stop the flow of happenings" instead of just simply making Wang So an evil, irrational person, because he will not kill anyone just for the sake of it. He's brutal, but he's not evil. She knows that about him. That's why I think the character development went a bit stray here, not that her reaction is abnormal, but I think it was poorly explained in a way.

Wang So had the worst part from all this. I think she'll snap out of it soon (I hope!). Lee Jun Gi is doing a superb job. The forced kiss scene was beautiful. Sad, violent, morally awful...but really meaningful. I don't think we have to accept it just because it's Goryeo, etc. His reaction was not sexual. That doesn't justify it, it doesn't have to be justified. It was wrong. But it was meaningful and very sad. 

[liddi]

7 hours ago, Putri Dewi said:

Do you know any website with english subtitle for

- sbs version

- international version

@Putri Dewi Please check your PM. Thanks!

[maria_m2me]

9 minutes ago, liddi said:

@Putri Dewi Please check your PM. Thanks!

 

Oh is it really different version right? Because I thought that's only mistaken or only epiloge that has released after the episode was aired. May you also pm me the link in english subs?

Thanks in advance  

[gobsmack]

Just caught up with the episodes.

 

Is this going to be "Cheese in the trap: part 2 Goryeo version". The second lead is looking much more favorable. Didn't like HS and IU's acting in Episode 9. She might be ok in light scenes but her acting is sub par in episode 9 where she has to show varied emotions. LJK has managed to showcase all the emotions, be it of getting accepted by family, betrayal, sadness, anguish etc in mere one episode. Episode 9 was top notch for to showcase LJK's acting prowess.

 

[Corina Elena]

17 minutes ago, liddi said:

@Putri Dewi Please check your PM. Thanks!

Can you send me the link too, please? 

Thank you so much !

[elisluvgeunscouple]

1 hour ago, junee22 said:

@lirone

I think bcoz they targeted mostly on China viewers that's why the int.vers.was edited with scenes that has the most significances story line with the original novel/drama.

While the SBS version is edited base on the preferences of the Kviewers..as a result of the negative responses and feedbacks. Could someone kindly add to this explanation?coz my english is limited so I couldn't seem find the right words.

Anyways,I'm on queu to those who want the Director's Cut DVD (should save more money from now on ). 

There are pretty much cut scenes which are some were shown in yooku or sbs, usually as I know just like what you have said, if it is airing on the tv station, they tend to follow what the viewer wanna see, for the sake of high ratings.

The rating on tv station increases when there are more scenes of ljk, so they more focuses on the scenes of 4th princes

While yooku wanna brings up the story as the origin version

Coz I see the different also in drama that aired in my country. When I watched it on tv, I thought the drama has ended with the man main cast had already decided which girl he want to marry among the two girls by looking to the side of one girl only, so the viewer assumed that they ended together,

But when I went to the online version, that ending quite different, which was, the man were looking at both girls as if he were wanted to choose one of them but he didn't show us whom he chosed.  And finally I knew the answer that there will be season 2 for the drama to answer the question about which girl he will choose.

So, back on the topic of why there are a few diff between sbs n yooku ...

They are trying to get different market viewer by cutting the scenes.

#sorry if it is repost

http://english.yonhapnews.co.kr/kwave/2016/09/20/42/3001000000AEN20160920003400315F.html
Scarlet Heart Ryeo comes in second place at Consumer Power Index (CPI)
The index, developed by entertainment company CJ E&M and media ratings company Nielsen Korea, measures the popularity of TV shows based on the number of views of related news stories, keyword searches and mentions in social media.
"Moon Lovers: Scarlet Heart Ryeo," an SBS TV series starring top stars Lee Joon-gi and IU, came in second with 250.4 points.

 

[shabbychic]

Hello everyone

00:25 over here and I'm still thinking about the last episode unable to sleep.

First of all I feel so bad I couldn't come earlier on this amazing thread so I tried to read all the comments to make up for that and wow you  guys  don't sleep right??? Lol

Sorry for the long rant that will follow but I feel the need to write it and hopefully it will  help me feel better. I'm gonna put this under spoiler just in case it might be off topic

Spoiler

Well where to start....IU is the only artist in korea (in the world actually) that I'm following. I've been her fan for so long that I feel more than attached to her. All the people around me know this...well some think it's weird that a grown up lady like me with her own busy life  has time to fangirl over someone.  Honestly over the years, I've come to realize that IU is a part of my life, just like a younger sister who just happened to be a superstar and who doesn't know that I exist lol but  I think I should stop being affected like this by all the negativity surrounding her. I have to accept that as long as she is in the industry those hurtful comments will always follow her. I actually prepared myself (as many other IU's fans) because  I knew beforehand all the blame for the bad ratings would be put on her. Of course, being her fan didn't turn me blind, I can accept critics because I too think she still lacks when it comes to acting especially when compared to walls like Lee jungki. She improved a lot (and this is coming from someone who first fell for her as an actress) but she still has a long way to go. This being said, I still think she is the best choice as Haesoo

 

Now that my rant is over, I have to say that this drama with its flaws and everything has climbed the number 1 position on my most favourite dramas list. I must have a soft spot for this type of story I guess (shoutout to all the Outlanders fans here). From Claire to Haesoo or from Jamie to Wangso these 2 couples have captured my heart. 

Even if I do understand why Haesoo was scared (hey girl please give him a chance to change ok?)   it still was so sad to see Wangso's reaction. How heartbreaking it must have been for Wangso to see the only one in the world who's important to him turning her back on him. What was even more painful was the look in his eyes as if  the only ray of sunshine in his miserable life full of darkness was going to disappear right before him. Such a heartbreaking yet satisfying episode at least for me. I'm not a jungki's fan but maaaannnn the guy should get all the awards Korea has to offer and ofc our OTP has to win the best couple award cuz their chemistry is perfect. Sorry again for the long post. 

 

[amisyka77]

31 minutes ago, gobsmack said:

Just caught up with the episodes.

 

Is this going to be "Cheese in the trap: part 2 Goryeo version". The second lead is looking much more favorable. Didn't like HS and IU's acting in Episode 9. She might be ok in light scenes but her acting is sub par in episode 9 where she has to show varied emotions. LJK has managed to showcase all the emotions, be it of getting accepted by family, betrayal, sadness, anguish etc in mere one episode. Episode 9 was top notch for to showcase LJK's acting prowess.

 

 

It is a novel adaptation so the story is like that. HS is in love with WW..vice versa but for some reason the love they have is not strong enough for both to defend until forever. 

She will fall for WS gradually and this time it is stronger and deeper.

[MadraRua]

I'm not sure what I just found, I've only skimmed it but I think this is an English translation of Bu Bu Jing Xin titled ''Love in the Forbidden City''. I was searching for a translation for the novel and came across it.

https://www.wattpad.com/70789583-love-in-the-forbidden-city

I think it's more based on the drama than the novel but as I say I'm not sure because I haven't read it fully yet. But it's worth checking out going by the first chapter especially for those of you who want a crash course in the original Chinese drama but don't have time to watch it.

To view the story you simply have to make an account at Wattpad which is quick and easy.

 

Enjoy

[moonlover399993]

1 hour ago, chi13lou said:

@lirone  In an interview, LJK mentioned that it will be a happy ending. Of course, happy can mean so many things. As discussed before, we all have our own ideas for a happy ending, particularly with the likelihood of GHJ returning to her body in the 21st century. So we will just have to enjoy the ride and wait and see.

Do you by chance know what interview it was or what video?

[Gabi Bros]

6 hours ago, Misstwilightfan1416 said:

My goodness another one  

http://netizenbuzz.blogspot.com/2016/09/iu-suffers-her-worst-acting-controversy.html

Don't worry IU we still love you. 

You will never see anything positive about IU in that page. It will be forever like that. That's why I avoid entering that site, but this time I entered again and catch one comment of the upvote ones that led to my bible in hidden content. I talk about part of the comment in my point number 3. Is a really looonggg post with videos. I made it as quick as possible, only for people to understand a bit the reason why she is so hated on Internet.  I am glad that there are people here who likes her, and not judge her based on hateful comments, and I am also happy that the cast/team of Moon Lovers likes her so much. She is such a Wang So.  Well the post is kinda sad because it also talks about how hurtful comments have damaged her, and how she manages to deal with them.  

Spoiler

 

1. Receiving unreasonable hate (from idol group fangirls) since debut day literally. Note: IU debuted in 2008 with 15 years old. 

From 0:06 to 4:24

Don't miss the real video of (1:14) and (4:04), she really was about to cry. 

IU: After making my debut on stage, there were two times when I wanted to cry. I had my first debut stage at the cable music program. It was very exciting because it was my debut stage. It's a debut stage I always dreamt of. So, with all this excitement, I went to the music station. That day were a lot of boy groups so there were a lot of girl fans. So I started singing my song but as soon as I started singing the first line, curses flew at me. They were like: Did you even practice?!! Yeah, I heard everything. Especially because it's quiet since it was a ballad. After one person started cursing, I could hear curses coming at me from everywhere. And all of a sudden someone yelled out: "You pig!!!" I was chubby when I made my debut. "Get lost!!!" I could hear everything. --- So, it felt like that 3 minute song was taking forever to end. And it felt like I lost all hope. Apart from being popular or not, I thought the audience would at least listen to me singing. Even if it's not calling out my name and cheering me on. Since the failure of my debut track "Mia" I don't feel upset even if there's no reaction from the audience. So even from the slightest cheer I get, I would get really excited. I think it's a good thing "Mia" has been a great help to my performances. The song "Good Day" was getting popular and everyone loved it. Everyone was liking it for the first time. There was another time while I was singing "Good Day" when I wanted to cry. It was winter since "Good Day" came out last winter. While singing, only one fan of mine got it. Only one girl. Yes, only one person. One person came to cheer me on. After I sing the line, "Why is the sky so blue?" The cheer would be like, "Milky IU!!" But the girl cheered me on with those words all by herself. It was only one girl, but I could clearly hear her voice on stage. So, I won't lose my self esteem. So, I was about to cry while singing. And that same day, I won 1st place. I was giving my speech and instead of my parents I thought of her first. So, while I was thanking the girl, I started to cry. Because of her, I think I really didn't have a goal or ambitions. If I get 1st place I'd like it, but if I don't I won't really mind. I would like it if I become the best female singer, but If I don't I won't mind. I used to think like that. But because of her, I now have a goal.....     

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2. How she deals with hurtful comments? "If you acknowledge it, you don't get hurt".  

From 5:29

IU: I don't read all the comments but I sometimes look at it. / Man: Are there people that says bad things about IU? / IU: Yes, yes there are. / Man: Oh really? / IU: A lot of them / Man: What kind of bad things? / IU: Like: She is ugly. I learned a way to get over it / Man: How? / IU: It's just to acknowledge it. If you acknowledge it, you don't get hurt. If there are 100 comments saying that I'm ugly, I go "Yes, I'm ugly" If I do that it doesn't hurt me. Since it's something that I already know. And if they say "she tries to act too cute" I go "I know I try to act cute too much" Then it doesn't become hurtful comments, since it's true. So then it doesn't hurt me. / 

OPINION: She uses smile as mechanism of self protection (antis says she is fake and hate her more because of her apparently strong self). In reality she is hurt and gain low self esteem because of that (she really thinks she is ugly or that looks pathetic but since her love relationship her self esteem increased a lot and is slowly appreciating her beauty), she even suffered of bulimia at young age (I think a mix of family problems and hateful comments of chubby appearance), but she tries that to not affect her...because after all she has lots of determination and strong will. But even tho, she is eating healthier...she still has problems with her image thinking she has to eat less and make extreme exercises for not looking fat. All because of the nasty comments. EDIT: She suffered of bulimia only for a short time and received treatment. She talked about that in Healing Camp.

Chubby IU:

Spoiler

 

3. Again acknowledged the hateful comments, and composed a song about all of them "Twenty-Three". Self composed song. 

Okay...one of the top comments of that article translated by Netizen Buzz said: 

"....She claimed that she could act as nasty as she wanted and people would still be nice to her."   ANTI FAN DETECTED!!! So they quote part of the lyrics, without realizing that is she only repeating what antis commented about her all the time. Watch again the acknowledge thing of point 2. Basically twenty three is a song for anti fans sang with a smile while saying something like: "You are right in all...whatever, even if you don't know me...only your words matter...I will give you what you want to hear...you make the choice to believe what you want about me...I am used to that". I just remember when this song was released that anti fans were saying comments like: "Ohhh I hate her...she is like laughing at us!" Remember that only rappers do that, and a singer talking like that to her haters is not common. So the anti fans all gathered and witch hunt her as expected...but the controversies became worst than expected. Similar up votes to the one of that article.  

 

 

Well, we know IU read the hateful comments. Comments said by antifans/haters aside the ones of being ugly and body shaming her are: 1. "She looks like a kid...no charms as a woman", 2. "Look at her thinking she can be sexy, lolita! 3. She thinks that because of that innocent face she can fool us, no way...what a sly fox. 

Spoiler

I’m twenty three
I’m a riddle (Question)
Try to guess the answer
I’m twenty three
Don’t be wrong Because
I am very sensitive
Try to guess

A bunch of twenty three
Now becomes little feminine
Trust me moderately if I pretend to be a grown up

Cunning twenty three
Still long way to go, girl
If I pretend to be immature
Please be fooled roughly

I, yes, like now for sure
No, frankly speaking I wanna give up
Oh right I want to be in love
No I rather make money
Try to guess

Which one?
You cannot tell with my face
Making an opposite facial expression
to the heart is really simple
Which one?
Actually I don’t know either
At first, I never wrote
even a single line of lies

Pretend to be a fox that pretends to be a bear
that pretends to be a fox
Or completely different one

Which one?
Choose only one whatever it is
Being seen through the sunglasses,
I’m used to it now
Check it out

There’s nothing I’m afraid of
Even if I act rudely
People are always kind to me

The woman saying hello to me
Is she still smiling after going round the corner?
I’m always anxious

I wanna be a child forever
No, I want to be a moist woman
Yes, I will live silently as death
No I will turn everything inside out
Try to guess

Which one?
You cannot tell with my face
Making an opposite facial expression
to the heart is really simple
Which one?
Actually I don’t know either
At first, I never wrote
even a single line of lies

Pretend to be a fox that pretends to be a bear
that pretends to be a fox
Or completely different one

Which one?
Choose only one whatever it is
Being seen through the sunglasses,
I’m used to it now

I want you to like me
Can I be nasty a little?
I want you to like me
Can I be on the top of your head?
Try to guess

Which one?
You cannot tell with my face
Making an opposite facial expression
to the heart is really simple
Which one?
Actually I don’t know either
At first, I never wrote
even a single line of lies

Pretend to be a fox that pretends to be a bear
that pretends to be a fox
Or completely different one

Which one?
Choose only one whatever it is
Being seen through the sunglasses,
I’m used to it now

 

4. In 2012 her anti fans multiplied like hamsters xD from everywhere because of a dating scandal with a idol group member... Other reason for the hate is because singers and actors (fans or not) liking her or praising her up to this day. 

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5. Anti Fans are pressed that she continues to be considered a top singer still by the public...they wanted her career to be destroyed by 2013, they couldn't. Her music is liked by the public, actors and singers still like her. She has a nice voice but not a extraordinary singing skill. The reason is because the public knows she is a talented girl since young, and that has really good songwriting skills. She first gained attention as the cute girl that did covers.

 

 

After because of her cute songs. And after that, recognition because of her self composed songs. For my taste, she is a good songwriter and composer.

Some of her self composed or written songs:

 

 

That's why even tho she is still that hated by keyboard warriors, general public doesn't mind unless the news makes some noise for sensational purposes. After all the controversies, trying to give her a dark and bad image, Lee Jun Ki and Kang Ha Neul (and more of the cast) grow close with her (see BTS) because they know who the real IU is. 

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About her acting...she is trying hard to become a good actress and a good singer at the same time (as Lee Jun Ki said) because she really likes acting. She had a dream of becoming an actress way before debuting as a singer...but the thing is that she is still lacking to be a lead actress. I like her, I think she is decent at acting...sometimes good, others not good, others really good. I hope she continue in the acting field, but not with leading roles until she is fully prepared. 

 

 

 

[40somethingahjumma]

Like what @bebebisous33 said, I don't think we have to wait long before Su is all in. In fact, she's probably all in already except that she doesn't realise it yet because of the other guy.

I have a theory... and no one has to agree with me... that one of the reasons why she's reacted so badly to seeing these visions of So as Gwangjong is precisely because she's already... more or less... in love with him. I speculate that she was horribly shaken with the realisation that the man she's got feelings for turns out to be an evil tyrant who slaughtered his family (in accordance with her partial or faulty understanding of history). It's the only way I can really come to grips with the character inconsistency in Ep. 9 especially when one recalls her holding him in all his bloodied glory back at the rock shrine or bickering fearlessly with him about life in the palace or waxing philosophical. I can't reconcile what I saw in Ep. 9 with what was said at the rock shrine about his killing spree. Her terror is so visceral that you have to think that there's more going on than the fact he's Gwangjong The Killer of Relatives. 

So is no idiot. I think it's been well and truly established that he has a really good brain. He's been on his guard most of his life because he's been shunned, mocked and largely ignored. He doesn't trust easily and I can't imagine that he has too many opportunities to get close to women especially with the reputation that he has. I think he senses her care and concern is above what is considered normal human kindness.

Yes, he's rough around the edges and generally inexperienced regarding matters of the heart. But when he says, "You belong to me, you're my person, you're mine", to me it is subtext for "We have a joint destiny. I've given myself to you. There's nobody else for me but you." Our boy just isn't terribly good with words. 

Can I offer a piece of advice? Abandon all previous assumptions about how the dynamics of a love triangle should operate. Our understanding of how Su-So-Uk works should really not be informed by previous encounters with K or even C dramas. Just let it all go, enjoy the journey and let the show take us where it wants to without fearing that there isn't enough time for this and that to happen.

All K drama couples have a hard time at some point. Even if they "fall in love early", they will face all kinds of obstacles anyway -- parental objections, noble idiocy, disease-of-the-week, class distinctions to name but a few. In the case of Su and So it seems the writer has deemed it necessary for them to face those obstacles first before the fire can burn more brightly.  Although, having heard a bit about the source material, it seems that they will continue facing obstacles with happily-ever-after sandwiched in between.