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6 minutes ago, AyaA said:

Hello everyone, this will be an out of topic post. so pardon me. our friend  @kuchie09 having a problem, she can not post anything on soompie. it said that 'have reach your limit post' maybe someone in this thread can help? i am also a new comer so i don't know where to ask or how to solve the problem.

I'm gonna call the mods over: @LyraYoo@rainmoon@bebebisous33@akinahana89 and others, please help @kuchie09.

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9 hours ago, zi4r said:

Hi hiaz, Eclipses! Anyone free? If so, please join the Battle Royale over here:

http://www.hallyuvote.com/face-off-battle.html

Song Joongki fans are getting violent in their catcup game. And we need reinforcements for our Wang So.

So whenever you're free throughout the day, stop by, yeah? 

Note: Yes, you can vote over and over again.

 

9 hours ago, ruizaio said:

A lot of people in Korea didn't watch ep 14 because they assumed it was canceled. Hence the lower rating.

The scene of child Wang So tied up as a hostage is part of what was skipped in episode 3. Hae Soo came to his room to return his hairpin, but left when she saw him having a nightmare of his childhood. Supposedly the Chungju Yu clan and Shinju Kang clan had a feud between them (which doesn't make sense to me as they're not geographically close), so when the Yus were attacking the Kangs for some reason, they put So up there to stop their attack. It is speculated that Mu was the one that saved him then. In ep 3, So wakes up and follows Soo to the stone piles and they have a discussion on motherhood that leads to So eventually deciding on covering up his mother's plot that was added later to the rerun version of the episode in Korea. This is also why when Wang So tells Hae Soo that he'll be living in the palace, she tells him to stop having bad dreams.

Thanks for the information.

9 hours ago, Umi_ni_Sora said:

 

Thanks for this @ruizaio. OMG. So many missing pieces of the puzzle. No wonder I feel like I'm always missing something. This is an important development between the leads and So's backstory. This drama needed an extension to put all the parts together succinctly. If they just had 5 more episodes, that would've been enough. The rush is becoming evident.   

@Immortal_Angel, thanks. Freaking A. Now I remember. I don't have any sympathy for them though. Even if it was for love. 

Or at least better editing and transition but I do like the roller-coaster feeling .

@dears I think despite the fact that MLSHR is an adaptation from the popular original novel and TV series, its uniqueness captures us all. So on my laptop I have the uncut SBS version, eng subbed SBS version, eng subbed international version, vietsub version and possibly the vietdub version (soon). LOL

@fuyukoneko In the original, the one who wanted to marry Ruoxi (Hae Soo) was the crown prince (2nd prince in the original). I think in this drama, Yo is his counterpart but he wants Yeon Hwa though. I wonder how that will happen.

@dustdevil I sense Hae Soo has a part in the skincare routine of all the princes after seeing her facial mask and spa.

@violet90 I agree. The readers even said that TongHua's writing is not some hollow skill, but within the "aesthetics", there exists some ingenuous simplicity, gradual familiarity seeping into your soul. So in a way, like @dears said, the story captures us regardless of the flaws in editing, transitioning,... The big picture brings us together and it leaves a deep impact. So all in all, MLSHR has more beauty to it and even if the rating is low in Korea or people prefer to watch other dramas or whatever, I think it's a distinctive, exceptional and noteworthy drama that we have not seen for so long especially since it's a sageuk. Scarlet Heart or Bobogyeongsim means to slowly shock ourselves causing us to eventually doubt. I think SoSoo's love is structured in a way that its genuine, simplicity slowly steps into our hearts yet what they have to go through eventually shock themselves and making them to over-think. Something like that...

@wordsmyth0253 Later on, it was Gwangjong who ordered the death of Choi Ji Mong in history.

@SukBin I know. This drama will be better with more episodes but knowing SBS, they want the money in and again, we don't know the agreements made among those production companies. If they did consider this drama seriously, I don't think we'd be seeing two versions now. But at least we still get to watch MLSHR.

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First and foremost, break the poll everyone (I forgot who said this on the forum – but credit to them) - http://www.hallyuvote.com/face-off-battle.html

Secondly, I found some quotes to express my thoughts about this bloody game of thrones:

About So: It is more honorable to be raised to a throne than to be born to one. Fortune bestows the one, merit obtains the other. - Petrarch

To all the characters in MLSHR: Crime butchers innocence to secure a throne, and innocence struggles with all its might against the attempts of crime. - Maximilien Robespierre

About Yo: You can build a throne with bayonets, but you can't sit on it for long. - Boris Yeltsin / A man may build himself a throne of bayonets, but he can't sit on it. - William Ralph Inge

About Wook: Men are such power-seeking creatures, and they usually kill people to get to the throne. - Madonna Ciccone

Third, I'm sorry that I have to remove the quotes because I was trying to back read between pages 145 - about 700 something and needed to catch up on the latest information. Everything's moving way too fast and episode 14 just has way too much stuffs to capture.

@penelop3 At this point, I don't think Wook is loving Soo anymore. He's obsessed with her just like what @Sharine Phinisia said. I think that he himself thinks he's doing it because he loves her (or maybe there's some little love left?) but it seems like power and the desire for the throne has blinded his eye. He thinks that obtain those will give him the love that he lost but in reality, he lost it himself. True, his sister triggered him to bear the burden but he kept sinking into the darkness and the love between him and Hae Soo also sank. Someone analyzed how he felt that the system owed him so pretty much, we’re seeing him getting revenge on the system that owed him and how he lost to someone like So (both in love and actions). Even Yeon Hwa realized that they shouldn’t be helping Yo but Wook didn’t seem to care. They’re both wolves but Yeon Hwa has better sense than Wook. That just re-emphasized again the point that if Yeon Hwa was a man, all the princes would need to stand on both sides looking at her walking up to that seat - the throne.

@hiluna@valsava@Akiddo@redfrommars@Evangeline Yang@devotee At least, we don't have YoSoo ship or else, it's even worse. Ji Mong really loves the princes and King Taejo. I remember in episode 1, when the princes were laughing together, Ji Mong had this look on him that he would be missing their smiles because he knew of the impending and unavoidable game of thrones and bloodshed. Even though Crown Prince Moo / King Hyejong was incompetent in politics (in the drama, he’s poisoned) but he truly was a nice guy. He loves everyone. He was destined to become a King but his reign had to end. Had he been more competent about politics, I think he would make a great king himself and could follow King Taejo’s footsteps. Very good acting to the KSK and KSH. It’s truly a painful scene to watch. Wang So also lost a brother that he respected and loved (aside from Baek Ah, I guess). Regarding Wook's characterization, I think it's the writer's plan. That part is really hard to decipher because like you said, he was a gentle loving character then did a 180 degree to become this dark Wook. It probably is the writer's plan. And maybe because of the writer's plan, it's hard to tell because both HJH and KHN are acting as the bad guys now. That was my opinion after watching HJH's previous dramas and then this one. Or maybe I just didn't like HJH's previous dramas LOL and then the LION KING just appeared to break our hearts and SoSoo peaceful loving moments. This is definitely his breakout role. Glad to see him gaining attention after all his best friends getting a breakout role. Yep, if Yo didn’t show up, with all the work to poison Moo with mercury, Wook would rebel sooner or later by giving out the decree to declare himself king. Since Yo came in, Wook would be planning again to make him the hero by killing Yo again. Won is the two-timer here. I just can’t think Yeon Hwa will redeem herself. In tomorrow’s episode, she is the one that lets Yo know about where Eun and his wife are hiding. She kills with her words rather than doing the work. Yeon Hwa has her own plans and is evil too but she has more sense than Wook. Someone mentioned that she's wearing the pants while Wook wet his pants. Really good metaphor there. She’ll be calculating how to make her the queen, change her support from Wook to So and eventually marry So. And yes, Yeon Hwa can’t rely on Wook anymore. Wook is too dangerous for her to back him now. She rather chooses So so she can climb the ladder of power. I think she will slowly understand that even if her brother, Wook, is capable of ruling as a King (not talking about his evilness here), she cannot see a man from him like she sees in So. After all, she is attracted to So. Hence the her character's tagline - she probably will be madly in love with him later on (who knows). And @valsava is correct. If Yo exiles So, Wook will come at him in full force. Yo knows Wook is dangerous and capable of killing him off. Maybe Wook suggests using Hae Soo to control So but Yo probably has hidden intentions too. @mewtwo predicted that Yo is blackmailing both Wook and Yo. Thus, that's probably how we get the scene of Wook shooting arrows at Eun.

@dears FREEWILL all the way!!! By the way, nice summary about Wang Gyu (10th prince’s grandfather). I almost forgot about him too.

@dramu51ch0c10ve@penelop3 And we’re slowly becoming stalkers.

@bebebisous33 Well said! Baek Ah and So have so many things in common. If BA was his full-blooded brother, not Yo, So would have a better childhood despite his mother’s rejection. And with all the heartbreak and pain that are about to come, Baek Ah is the person that So needs. Baek Ah understands and can help So.

@angelangie I thought @chi13lou said that we are Wook so baseball must be Won or and SBS is Chaeryung.

@Yippeuni Everyone is alive today but not until episode 15 finished airing.

@feignedreality So the death chain is like this: Lady Hae, Lady Oh, King Taejo, Crown Prince Moo, Seon Deok (possibly tomorrow unless there’s a twist), Eun. After this, it’ll be Yo, Won and Chaeryung.

@violet90 It's ironic that So doesn't want the throne but later on does everything to get the throne to ensure freedom. All the princes (except Moo, Eun and Won) are after the throne because getting the throne doesn't just give them power but that is their way to freedom (in each of their minds and ideals).

@TeBe Even if in history Gwangjong didn't kill the 10th prince, the writer is taking creative liberties here so there's nothing much to say. Plus, we're not even sure if the 10th prince died naturally in history or not. There's just not much information because @ruizaio did say that back then, everything was written from the perspectives of the winners. So a lot of the information may not be as they seem to be.

@stevii Considering that MLSHR is airing and will be airing in over 10 countries (not counting Korea), that's a lot of money coming in for SBS. Although, I do hope domestic ratings will help the cast to win the year-end awards.

@smitten1710 You're right. Everything is against SoSoo. From WookSoo to SBS / baseball (at least for the next 2 weeks) to WonChae to YoWookWon to YeonHwa.

@Rose34 I hope SBS creates a special award category for Yo-Wook-Won (the evil trio) because they slayed their roles . I will raise my two hands to support them winning that. LOL

I am still way behind!!!

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22 hours ago, KdramaSwimmer said:

thats one BIG BIG BIGGGG achievement for SHR...I am just hoping it come to my country too so that I can brag about how awesome SHR - LJK is to my not-so-kdrama-fan frnds....

@zi4rthanks for the link... done voting once.. can we re-vote ?

I hope it will come to your country.

MODE EDIT: do not quote pictures

Thanks for the pic!

21 hours ago, bebebisous33 said:

@wordsmyth0253 Thanks for translating the preview and it was not a surprise to read that Wang Wook would help Wang Yo. I am sure, he will convince him that his betrayal was just an act. Wang Wook has always been a double-face person! But this time, Wang Wook will be the puppet and not the other way around. Wang Yo has learnt his lesson thus he will no longer trust Wang Wook like before. He will rely more on Wang Won. 

In my opinion, Wang Wook will send Chae Ryun in order to remain close to Hae Soo, well aware that CR likes Hae Soo a lot. So he believes that CR is working for him, unaware that CR is actually a spy for Wang Won as well. Wang Won and his brother Yo will use CR as their puppet. My theory is that Wang Wook has no idea that CR will be used to frame Hae Soo again. CR has no idea herself first but at some point, Wang Won will ask her to do something for him, without telling her the whole truth. I can imagine how angry and mad Wang So will be, when he discovers the whole truth: CR as Hae Soo's only friend betrayed her. This is something that Wang So won't forget and both Won and CR will pay for that!

I agree with you. It didn't seem to me that Wook knew about Chaeryung poisoning the Crown Prince. I haven't watched the new episode with subs yet so I can't be sure.

20 hours ago, fidda868 said:

I'm still hoping that the baseball game will finish early tonight!  i wanna see WS and HS dating scenes and their first passionate kiss of course!! Hehe

LJG's ig follower has reached 1.1mil! That's so fast!! Still remember when i followed him in 2014, he only has small numbers of followers! Huhu but he still has so many fans who actively commented on his ig. When he called his fans "Angels" or "My Angels"..my heart flutters everytime he posted that words...hihihi..now i'm glad that he gained more attention after MLSHR from all over the world..

I can't believe that because of MLSHR, i google for info about Goryeo's history..reading about Gwangjong!  i bet the korean students who watched this drama will get an A for their history paper at school! Wahaha  

Wook...he will never get the throne but his son Wang Chi (Seongjong) took over the throne after Wang So's son, Wang Ju (Gyeongjong) died after 6 years ruled the kingdom...

Gwangjong is a more capable man (better man in the drama) than Wook yet his son is not as good as Wook's son. Did Wook repent and try to lead his son in a new direction?

I still have a lot of pages to read and things to multi-quote.

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@riuenu LOL, I don't mind. You're not the only one. Pretty much the whole fandom is hating on SBS right now for possibly delaying the next episode and possibly the most anticipated one just for a baseball game. Make sure to focus on your job too. MLSHR is a drug now. lol

By the way, I watched the Vietnamese dub version of MLSHR (they have both Vietsub and Vietdub versions). I have to say that I really miss the voices of LJG and KHN.

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@riuenu@runitaaa LOL, for a second I was wondering: Who's hanazuki? Then I realized that it's not me. LOL Too bad, Yo doesn't get any girl or else, she can stare at his eyeliner and beard for as long as she wants.

2 hours ago, riuenu said:

@hanazuki hahahahaha I agree he look hot with the beard..but I just..cannot with his lion king hair...after he tied up in a bun when he become king...he look much better...and finally..he is not with that "thicker den mine" eyeliner after he came back kekekekeke 

 

The above picture...make nearly choke my lunch...wth Kang Hanuel is doing hahahhahahahahahahaha, he is so cute IRL...so detestable in SHR

 

1 hour ago, runitaaa said:

 So true! jong hyun with beard look so damn hot, and tying his hair up really complete the look (of a king?). But of course the most important thing is the lack of eyeliner in his eyes

I know all of you guys still busy discussing the dispute of today (or tomorrow) episode but here I am, drooling over Yo's beard! hahaha

 

1 hour ago, Yippeuni said:

Dear Wang Yo,

Kill Wang Wook please...

thanks,

Yippeuni

To Yo,

I will see you. Won is the messenger.

From Wook

1 hour ago, penelop3 said:

Just as I fear, the happy occassion with So and Soo being lovey dovey will be short-lived.
Wook, Yo, and Won... I have nothing to more to say about your evil deeds, except this.......
For Love and Justice, the pretty sailor suited soldier Sailor Moon! In the name of the moon I will punish you! 

NOOOO .. this is nooot fair. I want to see every single happy days between So and Soo for as long as possible. Not squeezing 2 years in 20mins then BANG... 2 years later! 

The trio (Yo, Wook, Won) are ready to face you, dear!

53 minutes ago, ratgirlina said:

The photo cover for the ost. Cant she hold him back?

Ep 14 maybe yes, maybe late, maybe tuesday..... aargggghhhhhhhh. 

Cant they make up their mind and decide something?

It feels like sbs exec is wang wook reincarnation.... 
all the anticipation, all the praying for monday to come. And to have it all squashed by sbs not airing it on it's original schedule! 

I wished for a baseball record breaking of the shortest game ever. So we can go back to our regular sched.

#positiveprayer

The million dollar question.

Some is saying it's been pushed to tuesday for a back to back ep.

Some is saying it's still waiting for the baseball game. Since we cant predict how long the baseball game will last, it's still up in the air. If its not too long, it will air monday but delayed by a couple hrs. If it's toooo long, it will be pushed to tuesday.

The fate of ep 14 is up in the stars............

So basically: no one knows. 

I think it's been a while that those baseball players feel the pressure to end the game early so the fandom can watch MLSHR. If SBS is Wook, I think we are all So.

41 minutes ago, liddi said:

Guess it's time to summon Ji Mong... anyone have him on speed dial? Thought I saw him time travel back to the present last night, to receive Scene Stealer award at tvN10 awards night. Wonder if he brought So along to the present 

I think he brought So in his heart .

6 hours ago, annabella2301 said:

Hi, Eclipses!! \^O^/

Actually, I can't refrain myself to write about SHR even though i know my writing skills in English are so limited. That's why I try my best because I really appreciate this drama.

IU is my biased. Through IU and this drama I've known two great actors (LJG and KHN). I remembered when watching Arang and The Magistrate (halfway) I didn't care who the lead actor with Shin Min-a. As well as To The Beautiful You, I don't even notice that KHN has acted in that drama.

In SHR, I'm a WookSoo shipper. I will remain so even WookSoo ship has already destroyed and sunk. I know I'm minority in this group but I am not ashamed to admit it. The sweet and happy moments that they shared together will remain in my heart.

Some said if you want to protect your love you have to sacrifice. You cannot get everything you want at the same time unless your family is behind and support you. Wook has chosen the wrong path in preserving his love. Pity him. I hope people understood his dilemma. Till the end, YH still manipulated Wook. Do you believe she will support his brother to be king? I don't think so. 

KHN successfully plays Wook character effectively. The audience totally hate Wook.

I can feel SHR follows BBJX route where is no hope for WW-HS relationship. 

One last wish as WookSoo shipper, if Rouxi wrote the letter to 4th prince, I really hope Wook will write a letter to HS before he arrested, imprisoned or killed. Please writer-nim! Don't waste his talent...

The letter will explained everything that had happened and how deep his love to HS. Wook also must seek forgiveness and prays for her happiness.

Therefore, people will not continue to blame Wook entirely for grief and misery experienced by HS.

@annabella2301@Umi_ni_Sora I think Wook won't be killed. He may be put under house imprisonment or something, not in jail because they can't make him die. If he dies, there'll be no Seongjong in history. But for sure, if karma comes, he either lives a life in regrets, put under house imprisonment or something. Also, he's the brother of the queen and the king. No matter how much Yeon Hwa wants power, I don't think she wants her brother dead as she needs someone to back her and to keep the clan supportive of her (to protect her position). Plus, I think if Wook covers Yeon Hwa's crime, Yeon Hwa will at least cover Wook's crime if he does kill Eun and his wife. She may change her support to back So and make him the king but I don't think she goes as far to killing off her brother. I mentioned the reasoning a few lines above. She's a wolf like her brother but they don't go so far as killing each other but will use each other for benefits.

 

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6 minutes ago, riuenu said:

Crazy eomma updated her instagram with Yo..I guess..this is when Yo already took over CP king..

Even I really detest Queen Yoo..but I really appreciate her updating of picture with the cast hahahhaha

 

21 minutes ago, runitaaa said:

There will definitely a time jump in today's episode! Look our two villain got a new hairdo and Wook look even more villainous with his new look (still so damn gorgous though)

I have to admit that even if Hong Jong Hyun's acting is not on par with KHN or no way near LJG (but he certainly has improved from his previous works), he looks great with a beard on. LOL

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2 hours ago, dears said:

My Imagination:

So Wang Moo born on 912 was 13 years older than Wang So born on 925.

Lady Gyeonghwagung (Wang So's wife), is 1st daughter of Wang Moo and Queen Euihwa.

Wang Moo's reign 943-945, He was 31-33 y.o. at that time and Wang So was 18-20 y.o.

If Wang Moo has his first daughter when he's 17 y.o. Then she will be 16 y.o. when Wang So 20 y.o.

I like it more if Ha Jin was sent back as Wang Moo's daughter instead of Wang Wook's Wife's cousin.

So later Hae Soo could really marry Wang So, and become lady Geonghwagung. History told they don''t have child together, that you can speculate because of the miscarriage.

LOL Then there would be no WookSoo or anything. She has to call the princes "Uncle!". HAHAHAHAHAHAH... But that's an interesting thought though. Kudos to you.

@MoOnLoVeRz@dramu51ch0c10ve@pwnkl and everyone else. Raise your hands up and say HOORAY! BANZAI! At least, if both episodes air back to back, the ratings may be higher since episode 15 will have no rivals.

1 hour ago, qwenli said:

And to the rest of the picture experts as well:

Kindly show only max of 3 pix and put the rest in a spoiler tag because many of us are on a mobile device and the pix really takes a toll on our data plans.

And pls dun quote images and videos as well @riuenu

This has been a public announcement: thank you.

Just want to repost this.

 

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11 hours ago, dears said:

 

That's why I said you're so diligent.

You must be tired but you still manage to write something. But I guess when you like something, it becomes something to relieve your stress and you don't feel tired at all to do something you like.

While for me, aside from working, I'm just laying around in bed with my laptop, watching dramas then browsing and like some comments, and write short reply or comment.

LOL It's because MLSHR ruins my life for the past month just like you all. My birthday was in August and about 2 weeks later, MLSHR aired. Ever since then, everything has turned upside down. @Killa92 Yes, MLSHR is our antidote lately to all the problems we encounter in our lives.

@fathiayunia Yeah, they do. I can't count how many times I wanted to scream in the men's faces that the ladies are on fire and where are you all?

@skxz Queen Hwangbo was So's boss in Time Between Dog and Wolf. The dark Wook was a mentally disabled guy in Two Weeks.

5 hours ago, Chickpea said:

Good Morning!  

Agree... but, just thinkin again because this drama is almost always on my mind...  Taejo investigated the miscarriage-inducing-tea incident and determined the culprit was QH which is why she was kicked out.  Assuming Taejo is competent--especially with JiMong at his side--then, it appears QH is the culprit despite what YH says or what QH claims.  Also, Lady Oh's child would have been more of a threat to QH's children than to QY's.  Just like QY went nuts when Taejo wanted to take a second wife, .maybe QH went nuts when the love of Taejo's life was found to be pregnant, especially if she felt unloved by him.  That green-eyed monster Jealousy....

Ah, well, I guess we'll never know.  Its fun speculating, though....

Happy Sunday....

They all went nuts for a king who didn't love any of them but Lady Oh.

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1 minute ago, KdramaSwimmer said:

@Gabi Broslol.. so its all visible to everyone how shilthu KHN becomes seeing IU-LJK having good bonding on sets.

@Hanazumi ur ship is having  love triangle of Princes...hahaha cant we add BA to this trio making it a rectangle ?

@MadraRua unni...superbb FMV... loved it..plz make more...

Let's make it an octagon with all the princes together.

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11 minutes ago, dramu51ch0c10ve said:

Seems like the thread is coming back to life again thanks to the kiss pics released and the bts for the upcoming episode.Felt like the few days before that the thread was moving a bit slow,no?Continue to keep this thread on fire with opinions,historical facts,mathematical calculations,theories,observations etc.I have been spreading the scarlet heart fever and I'm glad to say 2 of my friends are already infected I've convinced my other 4 cousins to watch it though they said they will wait for all the episodes to air first.Continue to spread the fever ppl!

Really really really hope the episode airs tmr.I've already spent days and nights looking through this forum and twitter just to satisfy my longing for this drama.

I'm officially OBSESSED

Note to self & others(since all of us may be guilty of doing this at least once before):Pls delete pics,gifs and videos in the quote that I/you want to comment on.

LOL I think everyone's just dumbfounded at the thought that a baseball game is hindering the SoSoo ship after all that happened and no one can wait for Monday anymore. Everyone's like: "Monday, please be here now."

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17 minutes ago, UnniSarah said:

@Hanazumi.. CHingu, that makes sense tooo... I wished they showed us that scene. Sometimes I hate that this drama is sooooo short because there are so many unaswered question about what happened in the past so that we can all understand why these Queen's hate each other. 

I know. I mean, we've seen these strong women from Lady Hae, Queen Yoo, Yeon Hwa, Queen Hwangbo, Lady Oh and how they can take the men on easily. It'll be really interesting and eye-catching just to see them plotting against each other. The way I see it is that not only men want the throne but the women also want the throne. That is why I actually think this drama should be between 24 - 30 episodes but then we don't know the agreements among SBS, YG, NBC and China (the original production company). But regardless I am still enjoying the drama. Sometimes, I just want to take a paper fan and slap the men in this drama to make them wake up and learn from the women (in fact, I am holding one right now). It reminds of the manga (Anatolia Story / The Red River) where there's a scene of Yuri Ishtar telling the men to stay back and drink wine while the ladies do all the work to get the cities without bloodshed.

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P.S. Those of you who are under 18, read Anatolia Story / The Red River at your own risk. The same goes with Empire of Lust starring Kang Ha Neul and Kang Han Na. You have been warned.

17 minutes ago, Visually-wandering said:

@Hanazumi Seems like the youngsters prefer watching online than on TV. Because the TV is their Mother's private property. Lol. And I'm sure they're all downloading the 1080p quality even SHD for each episode. Because after years downloading via Korean torrent site, Moon Lovers is the SPEEDIEST among all drama provided HD torrent links.

Usually 1080p torrent available 2 days after the drama on air. But for MLSHR, only about 8 to 10 hours after it's on TV, the torrent links available! Daebak.

Btw for you who want to download via torrent, I saved them on my cloud drive.

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1080p torrents folder (each episode approx. 3.2GB)

720p torrents folder (each episode approx. 1.2GB)

Happy downloading \^o^/

 

 

Yes. Maybe the Mothers are afraid the youngsters will do something inappropriate with the TV so they took the TV from them leaving them with only the Internet but it only makes it even worst.

@sadpluto@runitaaa Yes, indeed there is suspicion and if it follows history, So will marry Yeon Hwa. If they don't marry each other, that it means the writer has taken creative liberties with this drama to a higher level. In that case, Yo is probably marrying Yeon Hwa while So marries Hae Soo. But that's just a scenario with nothing to confirm.

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8 minutes ago, UnniSarah said:

@Chickpea... Your theory makes sense because if i recal in the drama, they said YH specializes in herbs so that would mean her mom to know about poisons. But YH is out for revenge because her mom was blamed for the miscarraige, YH believes her mom is innocent. I agree that YH and WW take after their mom and they had a terrible childhood because they were kicked out of the palace. I think they grew up without protection because they disgraced their clan and their clan made them feel their wrath. Maybe QH did make the poison but not knowing what is was going to be used for was the actual reason they got sent away. I think QH kinda feel bad about what happen and that is why she tried to persuade TJ not to let her hang. I am also thinkin that Lady Oh also did not trust QH either. I remember how careful she was talking to QH when she was at daiwon. QH was asking about her health and LO just answered her with respect but never told her about what she was ailing from.

Yeah or maybe Queen Hwangbo also intentionally made the poison and wanted to use it to frame Queen Yoo but it backfired on her not knowing that Queen Yoo tricked Queen Hwangbo to do so. We never know. This is something that I love the drama had covered. It'll be so much interesting to see Queen Yoo, Lady Oh and Queen Hwangbo go at each other. King Taejo, how did you make all these women love you?

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4 minutes ago, Visually-wandering said:

Low rating = Not popular???

How about this? Just checking out Moon Lovers thread on DC gall. It's speeding up so fast on updates. Faster than us ^^

It's already 112.483 posts. Each post has some comments. Can you imagine how crazy Korean fans with this drama?

Yeah, I think Korean fans watch the other dramas on TV while watching Moon Lovers online. I've been hearing that a lot of people watch MLSHR live on internet instead. This drama is mad.

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6 minutes ago, solelylurking said:

 

Usually I smile when my heater smiled but that photo just burry me 6 feet under @dhia205. Can you please make HS out of the pic and replace it with mine? I promise I'll smile 6 digits worth.. 

Seeing from the angle of the kiss, I as an expert (?), thinks it will be unlikely to have a good bed scene that can quenched our thirst for love and lust. I trust WS but I don't trust the PD.

*sigh* Too bad isn't it. Such a waste for WS's talent.

If my heater have his way, in his current state right now, he'll forget well-manners and bring HS to any flat surface available, I think. 

Eh.. In the recent spoiler WS will likely marry Wang Mo little daughter, right? What is her father thinking? What will they do on the first night? Playing shadow puppet or ticking marbels across the room? I bet WS has another duty if the do get married: reading bed time stories and sing her a lullaby.

Ps: this is a joke too. Please.. Please.. Please.. I'm begging you chingus to joke around with me too. 

I'm eagerly waiting for photoshop gods to edit the pic of Wang So kissing Hae Soo into Wang So kissing Yo or Wook. LOL

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2 minutes ago, soorani said:

I'm with you on that. I don't believe he knows the person she was talking about is Wook. I think the drama highlighted it also by having him commenting twice (for wook and for Soo) about the concern they have for each other was understandable because they were related.

Tbh, I think he believed in her, he just didn't care. When he asked if that person was Baek In-ha, he was just confirming that, as long as it wasn't his BFF, he wouldn't mind because he wouldn't give up on her.

But now that you said that the 4th let Ruoxi go because he thought he still was in love with the 8th I can see this as a reason for So letting her go in  the K version. 

Still, the connection they have created throughout the story so far is so strong, they know each other so well, I can't see (more like I don't want to see) them breaking up by misunderstood/miscommunication.reasons 

Yeah. So longs for his mother's love and the acceptance from his brothers. Plus we saw that he didn't want to kill Yo and someone mentioned that So's fighting with Wook was pretty much defensive. He didn't want to harm Wook's life. Eventually So will realize Wook's true character but up to that time, he sees Wook as a younger brother. And yes, there will be some misunderstanding / miscommunication that lead to So and Soo parting ways. I'm interested to see what the writer will bring to us. Hopefully, it's logical too and not heartbreaking compared to the original.

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@dears Today was nuts lol. I had work in the morning and when I got home, I studied for an exam. By the time, I got on Soompi, I had to back read and forward read. Can you believe it? I multi-quoted about 50 post... I like to watch more too but if something comes up in my mind, I'll write something. I want to apologize first to people who I tagged because I cut short your quote. And EVERYONE, prepare tissue papers, water, frying-pan, bread dough / crackers / food related, pillow with you. When you watch the upcoming 7 episodes, have a pillow so you can hug, the frying pan to slap the bread dough / crackers / food related (to resist the temptation of beating up the evil characters ), water to drink to clear your throat and tissue papers to wipe your tears.

@penelop3@millie10468 And to add to that, after finding out about Wook's intentions and knowing his illness is getting worse, I think he fears a lot. He fears for the nation, for his family and for the people around him. Also, possibly before King Taejo died or during the Crown Prince's reign, maybe he was notified by Ji Mong that So would be king too. I'm just guessing about this part. Yo most likely will be the one issuing the death sentence to Hae Soo that's when she will go on the run with So. Then when So becomes the king, he will issue the death sentence to Chaeryung.

@soorani Someone actually mentioned about the possibility that Wook will play a role in helping Soo to move out of the palace. I know some people said that So is smart and he probably knows that Wook is her first love. I actually think otherwise. I think he really values the family bond and when he asks that Soo still cares for Wook as a relative, I think he actually meant it. Because really, he hasn't really seen them being "lovey-dovey" yet.

20 hours ago, dustdevil said:

1) Queen Hwangbo is the one who masterminds the YeonHwa-So marriage? She seems really pragmatic, and I could see her deciding that an alliance with So is a better bet than backing Wook.

@dustdevil Nice predictions you got there. But I think she still backs her son though. It's Yeon Hwa who is using both of them to get power.

@KdramaSwimmer@ratgirlina@junee22 I ship WY-WS-WW. Team #3-4-8 all the way. HAHAHAHAHAH... After seeing all those fan edits of them, I can't stop laughing. And thanks for the cute chibi picture. MLSHR has damaged our lives permanently (as of now). Yesterday before I went to bed and this morning when I woke up for work, I saw like hundreds of those different crying emojis flooding my facebook pages, twitter,...

17 hours ago, 40somethingahjumma said:

The baby-making process can't come fast enough.

Oh @qwenli -- are you trying to give me a heart attack with that pic... Dear Lord... I am undone.

 

16 hours ago, qwenli said:

where is everybody????

@LyraYoo yeah, this is suppose to be a mon/tue drama. but my wed,thur,fri,sat,sun all busy with it 

@40somethingahjumma yes....baby making....baby making .... how come there is no evil face emoticon on soompi 

@40somethingahjumma@qwenli But will we get a baby though? LOL

13 hours ago, ruizaio said:

@Hanazumi You seem to be confusing Queen 1 with Queen 3. The evil queen Yu/Yoo we see in MLSHR is Queen 3 and is from the Chungju (忠州) Yu (劉) clan. Queen 1 and Queen 6 (that we have not seen in the drama) are from Jeongju (貞州) Ryu (柳) clan. 

@liddi In the case of Taejo, all three of his wives at the time when he took the throne became queens, and all other wives he married thereafter were concubines. These wives were hostages in a sense, but the clans would also support the prince born to their daughter to become the next king. Lady Kang of Shinju was one of those concubines, and her only son died young. Since Queen 3 had 5 sons (although the first one also died young and we don't see the youngest one in the drama), she gave one to her to console her (and secure the loyalty of the Kangs). In the drama, it is set that there is long time feud between the Chungju Yu clan and the Shinju Kang clan, and that's why they gave a son to Lady Kang. On DC, it is speculated that Yo was going to be sent at first, but when So got the scar, he was sent instead to conveniently remove him from his mom's sight.

Based on HJH's interview, somebody suggested that when Tae (Queen Yu's first son) was alive, their mother was probably favoring him as the son to succeed the throne and also doting much love on So the way she is doing now with Jeong, with Yo being in the middle, feeling somewhat neglected. Then Tae died and So was sent to Shinju instrad of Yo. This made Yo realize how fleeting mother's love for him is and become more desperate, while So was longing for the motherly love that he used to receive before the scar. 

Historically, So was Wang Geon's favorite son (next to the Crown Prince), and the point of the 10 Instructions about allowing a brother take the throne instead of a son may have been for this purpose. So was the first prince to marry within the family, so this could have been Taejo's big picture.

Kang Jo throwing out Mokjong (Wang So's grandson) and making Wook2's son king is much much later and unrelated to Gwangjong weakening the clans. Mokjong's mom (Wook1's daughter) and her boyfriend were pretty much dominating the court, so he lost interest in ruling and just had fun with his boyfriend. Of course, historical records we read today are from the winner's perspective, so we always have to take it with a grain of salt. Some records indicate that Mokjong entrusted Kang Jo to get rid of his mom's boyfriend and Kang Jo turned on him in the process, but who knows.

Yes, I did confuse myself. That's what happens when you don't know Korean . And I agree with your last point that much of the historical records from the old times were from the winner's perspectives. That's why even though a lot of people said that Gwangjong will be ruthless, in reality, what if he's not. Through the drama, we see the incompetent Crown Prince, plotting Yo, and dark Wook. What if they all had talents but luck is not on their side?

@sooji28@Killa92 Chaeryung is supposed to betray Hae Soo. I know she betrays but I like to think of it as she is forced too. She can't get out of her love for the 9th prince and she really likes Hae Soo as a friend, a sister. I think she's just really torn between choosing friendship and love.

@SizzlerZ@violet90@meahri_1@faeriealice I think it's because history doesn't say much about the Crown Prince's reign. So there's not much the drama can show us. He is a good guy but incompetent as a King. Yet he had to take up that burden. Normally the eldest prince takes the crown. But since King Taejo issued his 10 instructions, anyone can take the throne now. WS would become the king after defeating WY and he'll have the backing of the Chungju Yoo clan, Shinju Kang clan, and Hwangju Hwangbo clan just like @ruizaio said. It's too bad the Crown Prince has to die. He really sees Hae Soo as a younger sister and probably at the last minute of his life, seeing Hae Soo being captured by Yo while he is nearing his death probably hurt him a lot.

10 hours ago, LyraYoo said:

Did Hae Sanggong just create a Damiwon Facial and Skin Care Center , first in Goryeo?

She absolute did! She's the grand-mother of all the beauty products and services now in Korea.

10 hours ago, blue003 said:

@violet90 thank you For the update...

didnt see that coming... this way HS s health will really go bad with the additional torture and maybe WW starts feeling guilty? This is the only way to convince WS to join forces with WW and to marry YH. The worse part will be YH will walk scotfree from the first poisoning incident and CR will be punished cruelly because of the 9th... like father like son...

It could happen but I feel like Yeon Hwa will be the mastermind behind this.

6 hours ago, ruizaio said:

I'm sorry, I guess I wasn't clear. What I meant was that So was the first to marry another royalty. The clans wanted the older princes to marry one of their daughters, so CP and Yo had to marry outside of the royal family. 

Well said!

6 hours ago, valsava said:

@liddi  This is a valet question, I was also wondering about that because far as I know there could be only one Queen and from my understanding Queen Hwangbo should be first rank royal concubine how is she a queen I have no clue. I was wondering was she a Queen of another country and Tejong conquerd in war and agreed to marry her or what, My guess is she's the one he married after the oldest child of Queen Yoo died, So how is marrying making her a queen I don't get it I know it's something to do with the clans..

@valsava I think King Taejo married Queen Hwangbo before Queen Yoo's oldest child died because the drama states that Wook and So were born in the same year.

@briseis Since the OTP is not getting any break, we're not getting one either .

2 hours ago, dhia205 said:

To increase this kind of soft skill he need a partner, how come he can increase it when JK stolen his partner? Or you wanna volunteer?? 

@solelylurking I agree with @dhia205. How is he supposed to do that when So (LJG) is supposed to be Hae Soo (IU)'s love in the drama? I think the difference in So kissing Hae Soo and Wook with no kissing scenes is just to show us that Hae Soo will love So ultimately. And I think someone mentioned that we rarely see the female lead kissing the second male lead. And plus the Korean audience didn't want to see Hae Soo kissing Wook.

2 hours ago, Chickpea said:

@UnniSarah, @Hanazumi and others I may have missed...  Greetings!  Regarding the Evil Queens of the East...  do you get the feeling that something is missing, like some part of the backstory on the queens was edited out and the writer tried to make up for it by writing it in the dialogue but there is still a feeling that you're not privy to something... kind of like that irritating feeling you get while standing in a store and forgetting what you came to buy...

Through most of the drama it was apparent that Queen Yoo was evil but Queen Hwang appeared to be meek, considerate and loving, at least it appeared that way with WW's wife.  The first time she shows any hint of evil is when she stops WW from going to HS while she's petitioning the King for Lady Oh's life when she says she must protect her child's life.  That indicates she was aware that YH was behind the attempted poisoning of the CP and she is willing to let Lady Oh die in her daughter's place.  I could be mistaken here and she could be referring to the King's anger at whomever took HS's side so she's worried about WW, not YH, but that's not the feeling I get from the scene.  I think she was aware of YH's actions and, since she apparently did nothing to stop her, QH is as guilty of attempted regicide as was YH.  I know we're led to believe it was QY who sent Lady Oh the miscarriage-inducing tea and blamed it on QH, but what if it actually was QH who sent the tea and who then claimed innocence to throw the blame for her actions on to QY.  This would essentially be the same thing  as YH having HS deliver the poisoned tea and then pretending to drink it so as to throw suspicion off of her.  Like daughter, like mother.  After So tells JiMong to gather the General and his army, it is QH who has her wits about her and tells QY they need to come up with a plan to save their sons' lives.  My point is, and maybe I'm over-thinking it, QY is vain and shallow but QH is deceptive and calculating.  This side of WW is now coming out.  When he says, he must not be "seen" as acquiring the throne through ignoble means and that the traitor who betrays a traitor is a hero, he shows that he, too, is deceptive and calculating.  Like son, like mother.  This is why I say QH and her kids are more of a threat to the CP than QY and WY ever were.

You're right. Since Yeon Hwa parallels Queen Yoo, she can also be a parallel of her mother. It's too bad the drama doesn't write about the past of the supporting characters that much or else, we'll be able to get a clearer picture of what's going with all these ladies and other supporting characters.

@liddi Well said about how MLSHR's pros outweighed the cons. I love its unique adaptation.

 

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58 minutes ago, UnniSarah said:

@ChickpeaChingu, you are correct  Queen Hwang was always a threat that is why Queen Yoo framed her so she can get kicked out of the palace. In order to come back WW needed a powerful clan to back him so can go back to the palace. I think Yeonhwa always wanted the throne because she was just like her mom. WW pretended to. It want the throne so he use his time, donated a lot of stuff, treated his wife with care and he was nice to the help.  

I can't remember which episode it was but I believe that WW sees his servants as servants not people. The reason why I am positive now is because he allowed YH to be veryyyyyu abusive to them. I certainly did not like the look he gave CR when she begged WW to save her. I believe CR appearing like was due to the 9th prince and truthful chingu's, i reallllly hate that Yoon Sun Woon played that role and I am at awe at how well he played that role. He is so talented for making me hate his character so deeply 

Yeah, so what's why Wook married Lady Hae. Poor Lady Hae. She truly loved him but he married her only to bring his family back to power and to live in Songak. It was episode 4 that Wook didn't stop Yeon Hwa from beating Chaeryung. And yes I know. Yoon Sun Woo is such a gentleman in real life but in this drama, he's the opposite. Looks are very misleading in this drama except for So, Baek Ah, Eun, and Jung. LOL

@qwenli@berny@violet90@chi13lou My facebook, twitter, tumblr and instagram are blowing up because everyone is either crying or mad at the announcement.

@zi4r I am hoping for more action scenes in the upcoming episodes. The next one is between So and Yo.

36 minutes ago, churasan said:

I liked reading your predictions - thank you for sharing! 

I really hope that in next episode, HS accepts WS sooner than later.  Please let it happen in the beginning so we get more OTP moments and that HS's initiated kiss doesn't appear at the end as a cliffhanger for episode 14.  If there is a possibility that there's only one episode this week, I don't want to wait a week for WS's reaction to the kiss!  Grrr.....   I want to see cute puppy WS floating on Cloud 9!  

In the original BBJX, if I recall correctly (since it has been a few years), I recall the 8th Prince being quite civil in the break-up between himself in Ruoxi. However, I don't see that happening with Wook here.  After their confrontation and what looked like the final break-up, he said to her "I'll make you come back to me."  That was just creeeeeepy and stalkerish to me!    I agree that the throne is Wook's ultimate goal, but I think he really does want HS to come back to him.  But it's not love, it's because he doesn't want to lose to WS. 

When, WS becomes king, WW of course is going to lose out.  However, I could definitely see him telling WS about their relationship just to ruin things between WS/HS or to get under WS's skin.  If he's not happy, than he'll make sure no one is either.  We haven't seen the bracelet yet again, right?  Maybe WS brings it as proof as his relationship with HS and in the end WS is the one that destroys the bracelet out of jealousy...?

I think your prediction and @Akiddo's prediction are on the right path (most likely the scenario we'll see unless the writer thought of something else even more brilliant).

30 minutes ago, SizzlerZ said:

@Hanazumi thank you for the explanation about Chaeryung in the C-version. I really don't want her to betray HS in any way because one, HS has already had enough betrayals to deal with and two, Chaeryung and HS are like siblings. I love Chaeryung!! Don't make me hate you Chaeryung ahhhh~!!!

No problem. I don't think you'll hate her. You'll pity or sympathize with her instead. I didn't hate her version in the original. I actually felt really bad for Yutan (Chaeryung) because she wanted one last time to talk to Ruoxi (Hae Soo) but there was no time. Up until the very last minute, she wanted to apologize to Ruoxi (Hae Soo) and never regretted what she did because she wrote in the letter that she was feeling love sick or lost in love. Simply put it, she was just TOO DEEP in love with Prince Won (9th prince). And I never really get why even if he did save her.

@dears LOL It's a pain to read backward and forward so I've decided to just multi-quote everyone up to the current post and response. It saves me the trouble and time or else I will lose track of what's happening.

26 minutes ago, Akiddo said:

Been away on a business trip - so many pages to catch up! 

Just a thought about the women in Scarlet Heart: Ryeo - aren't they all destroyed one way or the other by the men they love? 

Perhaps the ultimate winner is Yeon Hwa - she becomes Queen after marrying Wang So. Wang So only had one queen and one consort unlike Taejo. In SHR, Wang So's heart will never be hers but she gets everything else she wants. Perhaps Wang So doesn't see the point of repeating the same mistake like his father. I am just wondering how So's reaction would be when he finds out Yeon hwa's role in poisoning CP and causing hurt to Soo. Her aim was to kill Soo. Soo's poor health in the later part of the show had a lot to do with the punishment she endured. How devastating it must be for him to know that his mother and wife had everything to do with the demise of his first love. 

Soo and So are each other's weakness. Soo's eventual departure from the palace is inevitable. The higher he goes, the less weakness he must have. But So's attachment to Soo is too deep and strong - and he will be tested over and over again. If miscarriage and Chae Ryeong's punishment by death is in the works - So will definitely become cruel and ruthless. Soo and the unborn baby were his hope for a real family that he never had. The depth of his despair at losing both of them - we can only imagine how inconsolable he would be. Again - Soo may not be able to forgive him - but she understands him. However, she will realise that she is the reason he became the ruthless Gwangjong. Leaving So is to preserve the love they had - there was nothing she could do to stop the tragedies. By removing herself from the equation, Soo can longer be his weakness - and he can no longer commit more wrongdoings to avenge for her. 

Lady Oh, Queen Yoo, Soo, Chae Ryeong, Lady Hae (to some extent) were all destroyed by the men they love. It is painful to give all your affection to one man but not getting equal affection and commitment in return. Even though So loves Soo more than himself, he will eventually be tied down by his commitment to Goryeo. Soo is freed from the palace in her last days but is still trapped in her love for So. The love eventually wears her down mentally and physically - like a wilted flower.  Their love is a double edged sword - it saved So from a wretched life as wolf-dog but also killed Soo. 

Both the men and women in this drama love to hurt and destroy each other. Someone also mentioned that So and Soo are star-crossed lovers. ROMEO AND JULIET!!!

17 minutes ago, Akiddo said:

By the time WS becomes King, my guess is that Wang Wook would know his bid for the crown is over. In BBJX, 8th Prince added salt to Yongzheng's wound was not to hurt Ruoxi but to help her get out of the palace. Wook owes Soo a debt and knows her need to be free. By hurting the King, he puts his own life in danger. At that juncture, Wook probably doesn't care anymore. He lost Soo, the crown...his life is meaningless. His family will no longer be in danger since Yeonhwa will become queen. Wook has the freedom to do what his heart desires - and he will use that freedom to give Soo what she wants. 

I am not a Wookie fan by the way. Hahahaha. 

I think the writer will probably incorporate this. We just don't know how it will play out because we're all predicting what's the reason causing Hae Soo so much pain? Miscarriage? Someone's death again? Getting hurt by So's love?

13 minutes ago, ruizaio said:

@Hanazumi Queen 1 and Queen 6 are from the Jeongju Ryu clan, while Queen 3 is from the Chungju Yu clan. Queen 1 didn't have any children, and the point of Taejo marrying all these wives was so that the clans would support him with the hope of their prince succeeding the throne, so it is speculated that he married another woman from this clan. Same with Prince Gwangjuwon (10th in SHR). Two of Wang Kyu's daughters were married to Taejo, only the younger one had a son.

Oh really? I read from the Vietnamese wikipedia page and they translated the last name of Queen Yoo and the 6th queen from hanja and they came out to be different. Then I checked again and it seemed her clan did come from the same Chungju clan but her father was a different man.

 

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@penelop3@violet90@briseis@SizzlerZ Chaeryung will spy on Wang So because 9th prince asks her. The order to Chaeryung comes from the 9th prince (Prince Won). If Wang Yo becomes the king, the order will come from him during his reign. When Wang So becomes the king, the order could come from Wang Wook or Yeon Hwa. Another possibility is Prince Won just want to spy to obtain information and decide which side to side with for his benefits. Possible bigger snakes are Yo, Wook and Yeon Hwa. Won is really sneaky though so we need to keep watching to determine. In the original, the reason for Yutan (Chaeryung) to do so was she was madly in love or you can call it blind love with the 9th prince. Basically, Chaeryung will feed off information to the 9th prince and then the 9th prince will let whoever's behind him (keep watching to find out - it'll be a bit different from the original). She doesn't cause the miscarriage. In the original, after finding out about Yutan's death (Chaeryung), Ruoxi (Hae Soo) found out that she was pregnant. The miscarriage came from talking to the 8th prince's wife in the original. So in this one, she probably will be encountering someone. I'm leaning towards Yeon Hwa.

@zi4r It was awesome to keep replaying the fight scene between Lee Jun Ki and Kang Ha Neul even if KHN did use a double. It was well-played out and the expressions were on point.

3 hours ago, liddi said:

@40somethingahjumma @littleloony While we are taking micro scalpels to hair follicles...  

I am not saying that this is a bad adaptation at all. Quite the opposite actually - I love it and find it to be an extremely effective, clever one. And contrary to what people may think, I never felt the need to compare them with BBJX previously except as a reference point. If anything, I revel in the moments when key scenes from the original are adapted here with a fresh approach that takes my breath away.

The characters are different, the historical background is different, the mood is different - all one had to do was take a look at Wang So as compared to 4th Prince, and it was pretty obvious from the get-go that this is going to be a different story. I do rewatch and reread the original at key junctures to confirm memory serves me well, and the disparity from MLSHR in terms of mood and pacing is undeniable. Still, I cannot help but wish there is subtlety in the treatment of the leading men, merely because I think that subtlety went a long way to making the viewers' choices a lot harder in whom to root for (you still see strong ships for 8th and 14th Princes even after BBJX concluded, and that is saying a lot). Note that I wasn't even talking about Soo rejecting Wook for So, which she wasn't. Rather, it was the fact that Soo was consciously made to have to reject Wook, thus clearing the path for her future relationship with So. The moment she rejected him, there was no way the viewers could fault her, and even those who understand and relate in some ways to Wook's character, emphatically agree he is not worth Soo's time - thus consigning any Wook-Soo ships to the depths of the deepest ocean. That is my one gripe. Perhaps I am being unfair, but because this show has constantly wow'ed me in so many other aspects, I feel this disappointment all the more keenly. No matter. I think I've practically beaten the (dead) horse to death (should have just gone the Wang So way and killed it with one swift slash of the sword, eh?  ) so I'll stop voicing my gripes on this matter any more.  

Moving past this, I am now keen to see how it plays out next. Wook is clearly very much operating behind the scenes with his eyes firmly set on the throne, so I wonder what would irrevocably put an end to his ambitions. Knowing history and how So and Wook's children married in the future, it has to have been something significant enough for the two men to put their intense rivalry behind them. In this universe, I cannot believe that it was YH's hand despite her being So's queen, so it can only be due to Soo, which in turn, does not bode well for her fate down the road. On that note, I believe that we will see Wook's redemption, though most probably too late in terms of what might have been.

7 more episodes to go. 7 hours to cover so much. Frankly, I am apprehensive how it would work in terms of cohesion and pacing, when we are already seeing characterisations and side arcs suffer, but I am definitely on board all the way to the end. And let's not forget the Jung angle and his part in Soo's future... unless that too gets abandoned on the editing floor, which they have begun to do in the SBS version. 

And when I need reprieve from it all, I just revisit BTSes and grin like an idiot at the casts' antics - the inscrutable Wook aegyo'ing with his eyeliner brother or making moo eyes at his greatest rival in love  And let's not forget BatSo flapping his wings like a Goryeo cape crusader, transforming into a blood-sucking vampire the next, or King Taejo who loses his moustache during filming, and does aegyo with the best of them when faced with Soo. Need I say I absolutely adore this cast?  

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3 hours ago, ddeokbokkii said:

I feel like smacking at my forehead from reading some of the comments here. So far, I don't think the writers have wrote off Wang Wook character as a bad character, at least not yet anyway. When Wook turned away at the scene where Hae Soo kneeling in the rain, by that time, I'm pretty sure he realized he's already part of the criminal scheme that were original cooked up by his own sister(Yeon Hwa), his mother and queen Yoo. By turning away from Hae Soo, W. Wook is trying to protect Soo. Do you realized back in those days, if you committed a crime against the crown prince it's consider treason?. His own mother, his sister and his whole family can be dragged out and execute in the most horrible way, if the king ever discovers their crime. This is why from that point on, to protect Hae Soo, he had to keep a distance from her. He doesn't want Hae Soo to get involved(or implicated) and get drag down with the rest of his family, if something goes wrong. After all, Hae Soo was the court maid who brought the poison tea, remember?.
Sometimes, it makes me wonder if some of the people here watch the drama for it has a story to tell, or did they just watch it because their favorite actors and actresses are in it?.

Interesting point but the damage has already been done. @qwenli I agree. After Queen Yoo and Yo, they need new villains and Yeon Hwa and Wook will be the one taking over. Chaos will ensue. All hell breaks loose.

1 hour ago, soorani said:

I was rewatching episode 13 again and I noticed something: 
When Soo leaves the king's quarters she encounters Wook and, after the conversation she was almost leaving, then she hesitates and is about to say something to him, but he interrupters her by asking a crucial question that the king had warned her for: "Is the king dead?"

My point here is that I think she was about to say that the king was dead. She was going to ask him for help, she was going to trust him with this information. She hesitated first, but she still started the sentence and that why's she was so shocked, she never thought it would be him the one who would ask that question, she was about to trust him again and once again he let her down. These two episodes were all about destroying Wook's good image in Soo's heart.

I was thinking the same as you, too when I was doing MLSHR marathon earlier . I think her hesitation shows she still has some left-over feelings. But when she witnesses the fight scene, it's all over.

1 hour ago, SizzlerZ said:

You're right, no one has found out about YH yet. I really hope the truth comes out someday and it isn't just forgotten about by everyone. I hope WS goes maniac and kills YH. 

If So kills her, then the drama needs to add someone from the Hwangbo clan to become queen or somehow make the Hwangbo clan to adopt Hae Soo.

1 hour ago, violet90 said:

another thing is on why HS cannot be WS queen....? 

WS is the type that don't care about anything else beside HS.. he even want to married her despite she became a servant and defying king order just because HS not being protected when he gone.. this is a few thing on why the rule is not something WS will follow if its concern HS.. so whether HS have a scar or don't have a family its not something that WS care when he became a king.. everyone who talk about HS behind him is being punish.. simple as that...

BUT i think WS will approach YH for power and her back up to revolt WY.. remember YH did offer him to be a king and she can do that so my opinion is YH deal with WS is to make her as his queen and not HS.. he have to accept that because that the only way to save HS ( i still think that HS will be held ) this is the only thing that make WS so desperate... and yes YH will be his queen but to make WS throw HS away is just YH dream... WS will likely keep HS beside him with no tittle but she got everything that a queen got..

HS will be the one that people respect and care about in palace.. first because her nature as a good person and how she help people.. also HS voice is much more powerful than YH cause WS listen to her.. this one totally going to make YH mad cause she the queen but HS gain the power.. the battle of women but HS have WS back up.. i totally can see why IU said HS will be ruthless.. not in term of fighting with YH but defense what belong to her...

Very nice way of putting things together. It's a logical insight. Yep, it's the same in the original version. The queen (Yeon Hwa in this drama) will have the title as she has always wanted and exercise her power but really, everyone in the palace will always listen to Ruoxi's words (Hae Soo in the drama) and respect her.

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1 hour ago, violet90 said:

in the Cvers... the only one that obvious for throne battle is 8th and 4th....

8th have 9th and 14th support..

4th have 13th support....

but in here i don't see where the connection between WW and 9th prince yet.. i don't know if when WY gone and in CP reign 9th form alliance with WW to save himself... i pretty sure WW is the bigger snake here.. WW is a very calculating person.. he not the type that will make it move first so even when WS reign i pretty sure he will plan a treason.. WS can't harm WW cause he's brother to YH so he have a free pass...

I think Wook won't get a free pass even if he is Yeon Hwa's brother because when it gets to that time, So will be very ruthless and dark. Plus, most likely all evidence will point to Won (9th prince) ultimately.

1 hour ago, Chickpea said:

Greetings, Chingu...

Just watched Ep. 13 again simply because there's nothing else on television on the internet worth watching...  Some thoughts and pardon me if I repeat something that has already been said...  I'm way, way behind...

Just a couple of random thoughts...  the preview for Ep. 14 seems to show WS marrying the CP's daughter, at least that's what the translation seems to say.  That would hold true to the history, if I'm not mistaken.  A child bride and in this scenario she will be his first wife, not his second.  Along these lines, it would put WS in line to inherit the throne after the CP.  Then I'm also thinking that the reason Taejo permitted WS to be sent away to the Krazy Kangs was because he knew he had only two sons who were born under a "kingly constellation" and he "chose" the CP so he had to remove WS and have him raised not-as-a-royal so as to insure So was no threat to the CP since he was actually the only threat to the CP.  On some level it seems the CP and So understood this which is why So defends the CP and why the CP puts him in line to inherit the keys to the Kingdom...

I'm thinking about So saying BaekAh was the only brother HS couldn't be in infatuation with since he liked Baekdo and didn't want to have to kill him.  It is fitting, then, that its BaekAh who So goes to for help in bringing back the CP...  And I hope he never has to kill him...  

I'm sad to see the change in WW, how he went from disinterested jerk to a nice guy in love to a calculating, scheming son of a female dog... but then YH is just like him so maybe its in the genes which means Queen Hwang was always more of a threat than Queen Yoo...

Well, that's it until Monday... Ciao, ciao...

Queen Hwangbo always has thought of how to put her son on the throne. She just didn't want to do anything that displease him or so until the situation when So drank the poison.

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57 minutes ago, ruizaio said:

Women had more rights during Goryeo than Joseon such as having the same inheritance as their brothers. The multiple queens were considered to be of the same rank in theory. Wang Geon had three wives (first one had no children, second one had the CP, and third one is our evil queen Yu) before he became king, so all three of them became queens. Then he married Lady Hwangbo (Wook1 and Queen DM's mother) and Lady Kim (Woo2 - Baek Ah's mother), who were not queens in their life time, but were promoted later when their grandchildren became king. I couldn't find any info about when Queen 6 (whose daughters married Jeong and Wook1) became queen, but she was from the same clan as Queen 1 who was childless, so it is speculated that Wang Geon married her so that he could have children related to that clan.

MLSHR took some creative license here. Historically, Lady Hwangbo wasn't really queen, and her clan was really powerful, although not as powerful as the Yu clan (Hwangju is in North Korea, while Chungju is in the middle of South Korea - a more strategically important location). Queen 2, the mother of the Crown Prince, was from clan Oh, so Court Lady Oh may be based on her. In fact, some Korean fans wondered if she was the birthmother of the CP at first. 

Generally, only queens lived in the palace with the king, and the other Ladies lived in their own homes with their clans. It seems in MLSHR, many of the wives were still living close to the palace since at least their names come up so often. Except for the crazy Lady Kang. In history, she seems to have cared enough for So to arrange the marriage with the Hwangbo princess so that he could have the support of 3 strong clans (Yu, Shinju, and Hwangbo). 

Later, it is supposedly a member of this Shinju Kang clan that puts Wook2 (Baek Ah) and one of Wook1's daughter's illegitimate child on the throne, so that tells you something about the Kang clan. They lived near the Northern border, and were known for their military prowess in defending the kingdom.

Edit: YH's line that she doesn't want to marry Yo because she doesn't want to be his third wife and not a queen therefore is inaccurate. 

The 6th queen had a different last name. Even though, her name is also pronounced Yoo, the character is written differently in hanja. So she didn't come from the same clan as Queen Yoo.

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1 minute ago, millie10468 said:

Welp, someone's about to be the shortest serving sanggoong ever

You have to hand it to Su, by the time she goes back to the future, she'd have served/been every position possible in Goryeo (except princess).

She's been a noble lady, a court lady at Damiwon, a lowly water maid, now sanggoong. I wonder what position she'll serve once she gets together with So or once So becomes King.

Yes, I know. No offense but imagine all those tall noble ladies like Yeon Hwa, Queen Yoo,...looking at her.

She'll be So's concubine but unofficial though. I don't know what they will refer to her as.

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I love to see those princes bromancing each other!!!

21 minutes ago, UnniSarah said:

@Hanazumi  Well Said chingu, I think one of the reaason he could not love these wives of his is because  they didn't really love him for him like Lasy OH did. Taejo called Ji Mong and General Park his  friends and asked them to protect CP and So. Tae Jo made sure Wang So was trained to be the best ruler who won't need to make an allience through marraiges . All his marraiges were to bring peace in Goryeo and these woman he married were also craving power. QUeen Yo killed his child with Lady Oh and it makes me wonder if that was the straw that made the KING truly hate Queen Yo. Even Queen Yo was not told that her child SO was born with the star to become king. Now with the knowledge of So was meant to be King , So was fated to be King. Since he is fated to be king, I don't think he was really a terrible king during that time but through Modern eyes they would think he was a barbarian. 

@msgolightly9608@UnniSarah@bebebisous33 Yes, I agree. None of those ladies loved the King like Lady Oh did. And also, that night when Queen Yoo gave So that scar, it acted as a reminder for her that she did not have the heart of the man she loved and she had nothing to make him come to her. So it drove her to put her son on the throne.

@fathiayunia LOL Nice point there. She still can't read. OMG I'm laughing so hard from your comment.

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7 hours ago, itzibitzispider said:

I liked him in Angel Eyes

@itzibitzispider LOL He's great in all his dramas but after watching Empire of Lust, I can't look at Kang Ha Neul and Kang Han Na the same way as before. lol

P.S. Those of you who are under 18, don't go watch this movie.

@zi4r Love your post with the fighting scene gifs .

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2 hours ago, Angiiee said:

I wonder if anyone's talked about this before, but I'm truly obsessed with the hairpin trope. Wang So wanted to give his mom a hairpin, and he also wanted to give Hae Soo a hairpin. Now I don't think that he sees Hae Soo as a mother-figure, but I think it does show how pure So is.

In the beginning, even though his mother cut his face up, then sent him away and treated him as a disgrace, he still pursued her. He tried to see her when he came back from Shinju. When he showed up at tea-time only to see that he was the only one not invited, he still tried to give her the gift at the end. As it is with Soo, he held onto that hairpin after going to Later Jin for a whole freaking year.

He kept trying to give her a hairpin. With both people, even after he was rejected by them, he still wanted to show them he loved them, and the hairpin is the way to show them that without smothering them. It's like he's saying, okay, I'll back off, but can I still give you this gift? Even if you don't want it, I'll still give it to you. Because for him, it's not the gift that matters, it's the affection attached to it.

Even when he's rejected, he doesn't hold back because he is just so honest. He has no pride when it comes to love. When he loves, he doesn't care that he is at his most vulnerable state, because he has the most simple understanding of love out of all the characters in the show; if someone loves another, they can show them everything. True love is when you see someone at their worst but you still love them because you've also seen them at their best; that's why he's so taken aback when Soo screams at him, but a part of me knows that when they finally get together, he will never make her feel guilty for it because she's also seen him at HIS worst, when he was grabbing throats and killing people. So the act of giving the hairpin is symbolic of that guiltless love; it's without any burden, or any pressure. It just simply is. It kills me, this gesture.

On a side note, Wang So uses hairpins as gifts and Wang Wook uses hairpins to kill people. I'm juuuuuuust sayinggggg..........

@Angiiee Yes. To Wook, anything can be a weapon. Everyone, stay away from him.

1 hour ago, akinahana89 said:

 

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31 minutes ago, fuyukoneko said:

Is there a difference between the king giving WS a mask to cover a scar he feels guilty over and WW giving HS a bracelet to hide her scar that he feels guilty about? 

Very interesting point. I think the difference is that the king truly wanted to heal So just like what @destinywitch said. It is a father's love but the King just didn't want to show it since he's the King. Even if Wook and Hae Sook did truly love each other, again the love wasn't strong enough, not built on trust or anything. Once again, he gave empty promises and couldn't do anything for her (except the scene when he saved her in the forest with Jung).

28 minutes ago, UnniSarah said:

 

Truthfully @msgolightly9608 I have no idea why she loaths him at all. I just thought Queen Yoo is pure evil.... The actress playing her is doing a good job and seeing the desperate cry for losing Yo, I will assume she did love him becaus her grief was very raw. SHe looked lost and very sad but I still hate that woman to hurt her child like that and deprived him of any mothering love.

Just like @UnniSarah said, there's really no clear answer to why she hates So. @msgolightly9608 But my understanding is that, she did love the king. The night her first son died (elder brother of Yo, So and Jung), the king decided to marry someone to keep peace in South Goryeo. Queen Yoo was outraged because she couldn't believe the man who is her husband, the father of her children could do something like that when one of his child passed away. In this case, I actually sympathized with her. Instead of comforting her and mourning his child, he did something else. I'm not saying that his actions were wrong because he cared for the nation, for his people. But basically, he was a wise king but he failed the love of the women who loved him. I think he was a good father too but he put his country before anything else so that really caused the rift between the family members.

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5 hours ago, littleloony said:

@Hanazumi Wow chingu...that's so much good news from Tumblr and FanFiction I am eagerly waiting for more stories of SHR......thanks for sharing the info.

@littleloony No problem.

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2 hours ago, 40somethingahjumma said:

I don't think it's harsh at all and I, from my interactions with women who have left controlling and/or abusive relationships, can see a ring of truth in what you're saying. It's not that I think Su and Uk had an abusive relationship... not at all... but I agree that Su wants to think the best of people even when faced with evidence to the contrary. That worked well with So... because the core of who he was largely misunderstood by everyone and he was trying to belong somewhere. In this instance her desire to help him did bring out the best in him. However, her do-gooding is a double-edged sword as we saw in Ep. 10 and 11, as it was used against her to implicate her in a capital crime.

I believe she stuck it out to the very end with Uk for two reasons. Firstly, it was important for her to believe that their romance wasn't a lie, that somehow she was some kind of idiot to believe that she was loved. On top of all that she had suffered from Lady O's death and the attempted poisoning of the CP, it would be even more devastating for her to realise that she had given her heart to a man who didn't even love her even just a tad. I think it gave her some comfort to know that he did love her in spite of not delivering at all. Secondly, I think it also goes to the issue of judgement. Was she so wrong about a man who seemed to all intents and purposes, the perfect guy? I can't imagine how earth-shattering it must be to face the fact that the man you gave your heart to wasn't just timid about coming forward to plead your case but that he might be a first class blackguard.  

The fact that he couldn't deliver on even the most simple promises should have set off alarm bells. But of course Su wants to think the best of people. And she's more than willing to give them chance after chance. The fundamental problem was that Su really didn't know Uk that well. All those stolen moments they shared seemed few and far between. In the end, it was the image more than the man that took her fancy. Or the possibility of what this man could offer her.

The part that I think was "controlling" was Uk saying that he did it all for her sake. I'm not sure about anyone else, but it felt a lot like emotional blackmail to me. Telling her that he embarked on the road to hell and throne grabbing because he was too powerless to protect her... puts the onus on her to support him and it gives him a cover for his ambitions. This in turns gives him justification for doing all kinds of heinous things because in his mind, he's only doing it all to protect Su. Still, Uk continues to see himself as the victim in all of this and uses his "victimhood" to justify his ambition to get on board the game of thrones.

That's why I've been saying that we don't really need to feel that sorry for him. He's a guy who doesn't like to get his hands dirty so he piggybacks on others and what they're doing so he doesn't have to look like the bad guy. He's very clever about it but that kind of MO has limitations. That's why he will never be king and even on the off chance that he does... he won't be a good one. Plotting and scheming will only get you so far. To rule or govern, you actually have to do something and take responsibility for it.

 

I haven't read Candide in years... not since I completed my undergrad studies. But I also remember it as a satire on Utopianism. As I've said on a number of occasions, before the death of Lady O, Su was an unerring optimist. She was wide-eyed about living in the palace thinking that she could go around helping people with happy abandon and not bring negative attention to herself. But yeah, she was mugged by reality in a big way. 

I think it was @liddi who said that we were somehow strong-armed into seeing Uk's negative side. I can imagine someone taking that position if you thought that Uk was not such a bad guy and now suddenly he's scheming and "prioritizing". I guess for me, there were always disturbing tendencies in his personality from Day 2 so I'm not as taken aback by the "prioritizing". That self-centredness, that indecision, that lack of action... they were all pointing to something. All he needed was the right trigger to put him on the present path... and he found it.

ML being a K drama... well, they do love their villains to be villains.

Incidentally Uk being ambitious doesn't bother me but really he's such a weasel about it. The man can't even be open about it like Yeon Hwa or Yo. It is fascinating that he wants to do bad things behind the scenes and come up smelling like roses... but really who is he kidding?

(Good grief, how did I manage to write another essay again? I don't mean to and they just sort of happen)

Keep writing even if the essay is a billion page long. lol

2 hours ago, valsava said:

@violet90  I can believe this but this also could be apart of WW doing because it may be his bright idea to hold HS hostage to get WS to backdown and once again he shows himself to HS trying to make himself the hero again until HS learns differently that WS gave up the fight to protect her..

@jenzotaku  Trust and believe if they say it's play catch day (BaseBall) that's just what it is maybe the game will finish early enough to air the episode but I won't hold my breath on it..

@Visually-wandering  Look on the bright side of things that one episode will move this thread problly another 1000 comments..All the insightful comment analyze comment and the humor comments so it will be some fun times for those one episodes.

@violet90  It will take a minute and a lot of YH comforting but he'll give into her, In the beginning Yh was the only other person that treated him like a human as he said he often wonder what kind of woman she grow up to be.. I think he chooses her to try and keep her from becoming like his vile mother..

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@kissmeStarlight The gif is from episode 1.

1 hour ago, valsava said:

@SizzlerZ@violet90  From the last episode of the King dying the way she behaved show that she's been waiting to get back at the Queen, I also think her family is more powerful then the Queens, So maybe WY first line of business was to take the head clan leaders and hold them hostage this is his payback to WW for stabbing him in the back, Wy may have killed the leaders to show he means business and to weaken that power WW family had.

Yes, I think Queen Hwangbo's family is pretty powerful. The only reason for Queen Yoo to have such influence was because when Queen Hwangbo was exiled or so, Queen Hwangbo was not a queen back then. That's what I think. But since they are both the queens now, anything can happen.

 

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23 minutes ago, violet90 said:

 

LOL... that baseball game really is the one who standing between SoSoo ship.. i might be a positive person person but because they already sold the right to other country i don't think they just can delay it.. a lot of thing have to take into consideration so my take is they will air back to back on Tuesday.. just like on Olympic schedule they will arrange all the broadcast to air it simultaneously.. 

I know. Just when everyone thought that WookSoo ship sunk. It's the baseball ship sailing impeding SoSoo ship from freely taking the sail. It's just really spot on. LOL Imagine the cries from the fans!

On the other hand, I have a midterm/exam next week. So I better start studying or else... Moon Lovers - Scarlet Heart: Ryeo really ruins our lives.

I think Kang Ha Neul did use a double for the fight scene. It seems like he injured his fingers or something. LOL The impact of LJG's power. But KHN still finished the filming so kudos for him.

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1 hour ago, violet90 said:

another thing about how the writer adopt BBJX story in this drama but make it different...

in BBJX RX is the only one who dared to hold 4th his queue (his hair braid) no one else can touch them.. 

in MLSHR WS scar is the one that only HS can touch them.. no one dare to even look at the scar but HS just being herself caress and cover them.. WS wear the mask even when he knew how to cover the scar because he want to remember HS.. that scar is belong to HS only...

the more i watch this drama the more i think the writer is brilliant..... 

Indeed, to be able to adapt the story from the original and combine it with Korean history, the writer is the one shining from the production team. Even while analyzing Goryeo's history from the drama and what I found from the internet, it's astonishing to see everything's thought out.

And LOL. Now the one standing in between the SoSoo ship isn't Wook himself but the baseball game!!!