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[Drama 2020] The Flower of Evil, 악의 꽃

FOE Poll 7: The ending  

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  1. 1. Did you like the ending of Flower of Evil?

    • Yes, the finale was a masterpiece and it gave the story closure
    • I liked parts of it, but wish we would have gotten more happy scenes in the end
    • No, I hated the amnesia
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Lol The only incest you would get is if it’s an historical drama based on real figures. See Wang So and what’s her face half sister. Back then, it was normal but today heck noooooo! Even in those two dramas that depicted that king, they went out of the way to not romanticize that relationship and give him another love interest even though in real life, that was the relationship lol So the odds that a modern drama would do that even in this scenario which would be categorized as parental sexual abuse, are slim to none. So like it was previously pointed out, they are still guidelines for them to follow cable or not. Korea is not ready. 
 

Anyway, even with HS father, we only know what the police report, media, and the population is telling us. I’m still waiting for them to show him as he was not as the figment of HS imagination. Are we judging him the same way HS is being judged? Assuming HS is telling the truth, he said he found out about the accusations against his father from the media.  Then again, they never showed what HS saw in MJ’s cam. That might be the only thing that makes the father looks suspicious (unless that was part of the plan of whoever is setting him up). 

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I've been thinking about the real Baek Heesung, and here is my theory 

 

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I think he is gay!

 

That phone call he was having before the car accident, really made me think about it. "No matter how difficult it is, I need to face this by myself" is such a recurring line in queer movies, that I can't just ignore it, lol. I don't think he would be that worried if he was to introduce a girlfriend to his family, as much as his mom is completely crazy in the head. 

 

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He says next "So... How did that person seem to you?" 

 

Streaming sites are translation this as "she", but he says "saram" which means person.

He could've easily said "How did my girlfriend seem to you?", but nope, the writer just went with "person" like she is hiding a information from us.

 

That just sounds like he just introduce his significant other to a friend, and is now making a difficult decision that only he can face alone (telling his parents).

The drama have been talking a lot about reputation, influence. As part of a wealthy conservative korean family, this type of news that would be completely unacceptable, his crazy impulsive mom would go completely insane, that her only son would be destroying her family's image, and probably even destroy his father's future as a doctor. And we had a hint last episode that she did something 15 years ago, probably to her son. 

 

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That would explain why his mom hates Hyunsoo's happy life so much, because that "normal" happy life is something her own son would never had, in her mind. She is not just angry with Hyunsoo's family, she is bitter they are not hers.  

Her son would never give her a granddaughter, he would never bring a wife into their family, they would never have family gatherings like they had on Heesung's birthday. She would never be able to brag about his son ever... They would have to cut ties. 

 

Another thing is that he is LITERALLY kept inside of the closet!! 

This drama has this little details that we don't pay much attention, and this one I couldn't pass through

They could have him in any place, hide him aaanywhere, but he is in a hidden door behind their closet?  

This just looks like a hint to me. 

 

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Anyway, I can be completely crazy on this one, but I had to share LOL Couldn't stop thinking about him... 

 

 

 

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DHS watch still with CJW. And Detective know as CJW watch like she said to him. In episode 6 CJW tell Nam Joon Kil wife to keep secret about DHs stuff. How aChoe detective reaction if he know the truth about the man who fight with CJW is DHS. What detective reaction when they know CJW keep secret about DHS real identity? Like Detective Choi said if you act as police you must sit with me. If you want be your husband side you may sit with him. But CJW choose another option go to the outside. It sign that she choose the other way. 

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source: https://www.womensweekly.com.sg/gallery/entertainment/flower-of-evil-lee-joon-gi-moon-chae-won-new-drama/

 


 

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Flower Of Evil: Why We Love Lee Joon Gi & Moon Chae Won’s New Drama

Here’s a new K-drama to obsess over

August 12, 2020

If you love your psychological thrillers, then we’ve got the perfect K-drama to recommend. Lee Joon Gi and Moon Chae Won reunite again on Flower of Evil as a married couple. Trouble brews when Baek Hee Sung’s (Lee Joon Gi) dark past threatens to unravel and shake up everything that Cha Ji Won (Moon Chae Won) thought she knew about her seemingly perfect husband. Without giving too much away, here’s why we’re hooked on this riveting series that’s so different from the feel-good, romantic K-dramas that have been dominating the streaming space recently.

1. We get to see Lee Joon Gi flex his acting chops

In Flower of Evil, Lee Joon Gi plays a dynamic character with dual identities – watch him go from being a loving husband and father one minute to a cold, calculating person displaying psychopathic traits in the next.

2. The riveting storyline

Cha Ji Won (Moon Chae Won) is a lawful detective married to Baek Hee Sung (Lee Joon Gi). On the surface, he seems like the perfect husband and father, but viewers got glimpses into his complicated past that is threatening to catch up with him. Watch the couple play out their cat and mouse game as Cha Ji Won begins to have mounting suspicions against her husband.

3. Lee Joon Gi and Moon Chae Won’s chemistry

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Credit: Viu

Having played partners-in-crime in the 2017 drama Criminal Minds, Lee Joon Gi and Moon Chae Won are no strangers to working with each other. Fans will get to witness their sizzling on-screen chemistry again, this time as a loving couple.

4. The star-studded, stellar supporting cast
Flower of Evil also features a strong supporting cast. Spot familiar faces, like Son Jong Hak (The Good Detective) and Seo Hyun Woo (Ashfall). For K-pop fans, this also marks the acting debut of former IOI member, Im Na Young.
5. The emotional rollercoaster ride that this drama promises

The show opens with moments of bliss between the couple, but we know it won’t be long before everything starts to fall apart. Cha Ji Won begins to track down her husband’s past and suspects that he may be a serial killer. What happens next? It’s only been four episodes so far, but we know that this drama is bringing us on an emotional rollercoaster and we’re all along for a ride.

5/5

 

 

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It's confirmed that actress Han Soo Yeon will make a special appearance as Jung Mi Sook. She already appeared briefly but will show up more in the upcoming episode 7. :)

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Source: KJDaily

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44 minutes ago, Jillia said:

It's confirmed that actress Han Soo Yeon will make a special appearance as Jung Mi Sook. She already appeared briefly but will show up more in the upcoming episode 7. :)

 

Source: KJDaily

Ommmo ommo does it mean she plays a bigger role than what we expect? 

 

I still think since her body was not found, maybe she wasn't a victim? 

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1 minute ago, chickenchopflipflop83 said:

Ommmo ommo does it mean she plays a bigger role than what we expect? 

 

I still think since her body was not found, maybe she wasn't a victim? 

I would actually love that. You know always expect the unexpected. Maybe her husband was abusive and she ran away. We only know what her husband told us, not her side of the story.

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A fan-taken pic from a few days ago. The poster saw CW (said she's really pretty lol). She didn't see JG

 

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Source: instagram

 

This (<-- link) is another fan-taken pic around end of last month.. can take a look at make a guess in which ep this gonna be. 

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Flower of Evil Episode 7 preview


 

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The voice of the accomplice... Who is this accomplice?!
Plus, Jiwon is also closing in on Heeseong..!


 

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I have to say, I'm loving how unpredictable this drama is. I couldn't vote in the poll because I really have no idea! I don't think DHS/BHS killed all those people, but I'm also hesitant to say he's totally innocent. If I had to guess, I'd say he was aware of his father's proclivities but not actually involved. I also don't know if he has any of the classic "kdrama lost childhood memories" or not to explain what he knows or doesn't (though I hope this trope isn't the case.) 

 

Regarding his wife and daughter: while he clearly lacks empathy and has social issues, and I don't think he loves them the way most people do, I do think he cares about them in his own way. It's also possible he's come to truly love them over time. Babies and toddlers can be challenging and and really test your patience, and I don't know if DHS/BHS could've gotten away with 100% faking it through all that. Ages ago I read a discussion on Reddit from a psychopath or sociopath (don't recall) who was married with a child, and he said he cared about his child because she was connected to him/part of him, so that's also an option, though I do hope he really does love her as a parent should and it does appear that way from his interactions with her. We've seen him go out of his way to be sweet or funny to her (i.e. the teasing in the hospital) even when it's technically unnecessary. (Though I'm possibly being swayed by how adorable LJG is with the little girl!)

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11 hours ago, hazelyeot said:

I've been thinking about the real Baek Heesung, and here is my theory 

 

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I think he is gay!

 

That phone call he was having before the car accident, really made me think about it. "No matter how difficult it is, I need to face this by myself" is such a recurring line in queer movies, that I can't just ignore it, lol. I don't think he would be that worried if he was to introduce a girlfriend to his family, as much as his mom is completely crazy in the head.

 

He says next "So... How did that person seem to you?" 

 

Streaming sites are translation this as "she", but he says "saram" which means person.

He could've easily said "How did my girlfriend seem to you?", but nope, the writer just went with "person" like she is hiding a information from us.

 

That just sounds like he just introduce his significant other to a friend, and is now making a difficult decision that only he can face alone (telling his parents).

The drama have been talking a lot about reputation, influence. As part of a wealthy conservative korean family, this type of news that would be completely unacceptable, his crazy impulsive mom would go completely insane, that her only son would be destroying her family's image, and probably even destroy his father's future as a doctor. And we had a hint last episode that she did something 15 years ago, probably to her son. 

 

That would explain why his mom hates Hyunsoo's happy life so much, because that "normal" happy life is something her own son would never had, in her mind. She is not just angry with Hyunsoo's family, she is bitter they are not hers.  

Her son would never give her a granddaughter, he would never bring a wife into their family, they would never have family gatherings like they had on Heesung's birthday. She would never be able to brag about his son ever... They would have to cut ties. 

 

Another thing is that he is LITERALLY kept inside of the closet!! 

This drama has this little details that we don't pay much attention, and this one I couldn't pass through

They could have him in any place, hide him aaanywhere, but he is in a hidden door behind their closet?  

This just looks like a hint to me. 

 

Anyway, I can be completely crazy on this one, but I had to share LOL Couldn't stop thinking about him...

 

This is a brilliant idea. A lot more plausible than incest. I've given it some thought and decided to expand on it: 

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The real BHS brings DHS home after the accident. Baek man woo learns of DHS's real identity and used him as a hired gun to kill BHS's boyfriend. (that scene where BMW proposes for DHS to kill the taxi driver looks somewhat loaded, either BMW has killed before, or this is not the first time he has asked DHS to kill for him). 

 

BHS learns that DHS was the one to kill his loved one and a fight ensues. In the chaos, BHS'S Mom loses her temper and causes BHS an injury which leads him to fall into a comma. Hence, BHS's mom saved DHS's life. 

 

When BHS wakes up, he is going to try to kill DHS again. 

 

I like this prediction because it is ironic that his own biological father had never asked him to kill. But he has to do it for his adoptive father instead. 

Nevertheless I am beginning to feel a bit of despair, as I think even though they are starting to reveal DHS's real personality, I don't have much hope that he hasn't killed anyone before and the drama will end with a Happy ending. 

 

My only wish is that we perhaps find out why jiwon wants so bad to be a police officer. Maybe she is in it for some warped reason and believes in her own sense of justice instead of the law, and she will help to cover up for him. 

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when I watched this drama I think moon chae won looks a bit like kim tae hee. and lee jun ki in the past also has similarity with rain (same hairstyle). I think they're perfect for the role as a husband and wife couple.

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Hello Everyone!

 

I admit I have not read the prior pages, apologies in advance. I finally watched 1-4 (got some time) and will tackle 5-6 before Wednesday. Thanks in advance for letting me join the party.

 

OMO OMO OMO. So good! I wasn't sure if I wanted to tackle a dark drama. But very chilling and our OTP are so good. (Not surprised Lee Jun Ki does a great job for sure.) To see him studying WELL how to address his lack of expressions to show expression studying videos and photos. He is excellent. So bone chilling to be honest as he is TOO good.

 

The little girl as their daughter is adorable and how she is very much daddy's girl. 

Interesting how his wife helps keep his "dad" away from him wanting to do stuff. (Reminds me of "Born Again" when one of the character's was always haunted by his dad's voice/taunting or creating impulses to  do "bad".)

 

Ok just wanted to say hi! Have to get back to work now.

 

 

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1 hour ago, Nodame said:

Hello Everyone!

 

I admit I have not read the prior pages, apologies in advance. I finally watched 1-4 (got some time) and will tackle 5-6 before Wednesday. Thanks in advance for letting me join the party.

 

OMO OMO OMO. So good! I wasn't sure if I wanted to tackle a dark drama. But very chilling and our OTP are so good. (Not surprised Lee Jun Ki does a great job for sure.) To see him studying WELL how to address his lack of expressions to show expression studying videos and photos. He is excellent. So bone chilling to be honest as he is TOO good.

 

The little girl as their daughter is adorable and how she is very much daddy's girl. 

Interesting how his wife helps keep his "dad" away from him wanting to do stuff. (Reminds me of "Born Again" when one of the character's was always haunted by his dad's voice/taunting or creating impulses to  do "bad".)

 

Ok just wanted to say hi! Have to get back to work now.

 

 

i love lee joon gi's acting as well but i was a bit worried that this time round it was a bit too subtle to be noticed. Then again, he is a psychopath so it is expected. 
i felt his greatest role was Gonggil from king and the clown because in that role you dont see Lee Joon GI, you only see the character. It's the same for DHS. 

I realized that his version of DHS is not totally unfeeling; he experiences anger and a lot of fear, but not so much of sadness or joy. I especially enjoyed the small cracks in his character, like when he almost looked fearful when he asked Baek Man Woo why can't he kill the taxi driver himself, as if he was afraid that he had to kill again. it was very subtle but so brilliantly played. Or when he seizes from the memory of being exorcised, it was so heartbreaking and totally not overdone. I think k drama tend to be very heavy handed when it comes to characters with ptsd, but this was just the right amount of acting for me. 

I wasn't very convinced of him as a father initially, but by episode 3 or 4 i think he really managed to nail it and by episode 6 i couldn't see him as anything else to be honest. I also loved the subtle difference in which he expressed joy in episode 6 vs. the earlier episodes. In episode 6, after Jiwon's outburst and after clarifying with the taxi driver, I feel that his takeaway was that he finally felt that he was loved and treasured and as a result, experiences true joy from it. Compare the ending sequence of him and his daughter in episode 6, to the earlier sequences, you will realize that he has put in effort to differentiate, albeit quite subtlely, between pure joy and simulated joy, and i enjoyed it. 

 

Same goes to Moon chae won, i initially hated her character as it felt rather 1 note, but she really nailed it in episode 5-6. I think her role is so well written. 

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8 hours ago, Jillia said:

It's confirmed that actress Han Soo Yeon will make a special appearance as Jung Mi Sook. She already appeared briefly but will show up more in the upcoming episode 7. :)

Hmmm is Jung Mi Sook still alive? or maybe there is a different version to the story about her disappearance? Why did our drama writer keep the cab driver(her husband alive)instead of ending his storyline at the hospital? BHS and him discussed something too that wasnt revealed in episode 6. BHS's mum also said something that suggested that the cab driver has a loose mouth.Like this is not the only time they have encountered him? So many questions..

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My only wish is that we perhaps find out why jiwon wants so bad to be a police officer. Maybe she is in it for some warped reason and believes in her own sense of justice instead of the law, and she will help to cover up for him.

I am curious too. She said something I cant remember which episode, she was bantering with her husband.She said she has something in her past that if her husband knew..he would be shocked.I wonder what that event was..maybe that motivated her to join the police force?

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This is me    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^    after Episode 5 & 6.

Well it was me even before those episodes aired but I really enjoyed Ep 5. Ep 6 just let me know we are in for some rollercoaster situations. 

 

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stopping and rewatching and grabbing my jaw to close my mouth. The storyline is intense. The way information gets revealed is refreshing...layers here, layers there...nothing too obvious. 

 

Episode 6:  Like @chickenchopflipflop83 highlights here...the parallel story-telling/editing is just daebak! Little reveals that may eventually be big reveals when we digest it all later. I am enjoying this drama.  Kudos to the writer, PD and editor...AND kudos to all the actors! 

On 8/14/2020 at 1:02 PM, chickenchopflipflop83 said:

Just rewatched ep 6 with subs. And I have to say, there is some quality film making especially for the opening sequence. The thing I really love about this show is the level of intent placed in each and every shot, some captures clues that will help the viewer solve the puzzle, others are edited in a way to enhance the viewers empathy with the characters. There is none of the touch and go, or flimsy cliff hangers from other k dramas, everything is planned and executed to perfection. 

 

The editing in the opening sequence was just chef's kiss!!! The way the editor does a mixed montage of scenes from both the past and present almost seamlessly disorients the viewer. When he woke up I was still wondering if the scene was a flashback or not. The viewer is pushed into the same place of confusion that hyun soo is in after waking up from a coma. And it is significant that ji won is the one to break that spell for both hyun soo and the viewer. I think she is some sort of pathfinder for the show. I think it is also a subtle way of hinting to the viewer, if u want the truth, look at ji won, as hyun soo is often an unreliable narrator in his own story. If you want to find out who the real hyun soo is, it is probably the version of him that ji won sees. 

 

I'm glad to see a strong interest in here about Flower of Evil. 

 

My brain still isn't fully processing the whole storyline so I feel like Hee Sung's frustrated mom to add any more feedback in here. uFErmFz.png

 

Looking forward to Episode 7 and just how they are going to have JiWon handle all this new found information. And just what will Hee Sung do now. 

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So many theories in this forum and I'm loving it! :D

 

My brain is working 24/7 and I still need to sort out my own theories and thoughts on this drama. And it's almost Tuesday, so not long until Wednesday and episode 7! Which will probably change all my theories again.

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This week's still cuts 

 

 

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:sweating: Hyunsoo, my guy..... Your wife is watching you 

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source https://entertain.naver.com/read?oid=112&aid=0003332570

 

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Flower of Evil’: Moon Chaewon hides her doubts behind smile and begins to observe Lee Joongi’s reactions

 

In ‘Flower of Evil,’ Lee Joongi and Moon Chaewon begin a tug-of-war of deception.
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The new stills show the couple back to their ordinary life after getting involved in the murder case. Amid this peace, however, a subtle feeling of incongruity creeps in as Cha Jiwon presents a bag. It’s the bag left behind by Do Hyunsoo (Lee Joongi), a murder suspect and the real identity of her husband Baek Heeseong.
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After becoming aware of Heeseong’s true identity, Jiwon previously declared her intention to get to the bottom of the truth, saying, “I only believe what I see.” Right in front of Heeseong, Jiwon presents the traces of his past that he has tried to hide. She’s feeling him out, gauging his reactions and pretending not to know anything, which creates tension between them.
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Completely unaware that Jiwon has begun to suspect him, Heeseong is facing him with the look of a loving husband.
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They both pretend they are doing perfectly fine, but in the eyes of viewers, they look like a ticking time bomb.
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Jiwon, hiding her doubts and observing her husband’s reactions, and Heeseong, having his mask on as naturally as he’s done, now begin a tug-of-war of deception, lying to each other about ‘Do Hyun Soo’ that has not been revealed yet.
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With dedicated performances from Lee Joongi and Moon Chaewon, its original script and stylist directing, ‘Flower of Evil’ presents a unique ‘marriage suspense melodrama.’ It airs every Wednesday and Thursday at 10:50 p.m.

 


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