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Hi @andaer kim, Thanks for posting. I honestly don’t see JSM having feelings for Se Chan, but again I could be wrong. And I did read all of your analysis..

I’m not them. Nor I’m not their best friend. I’m just a third party, who finds KJK and JSM having amazing chemistry. I just doubt very much she would be willing to do a ‘loveline’ at RM with Sechan when her real feelings are put to the test. The loveline looked totally forced in my eyes, and unnecessary in my opinion. But that’s just my opinion. 

And I think you are a tad bit worried, but if you go down the path of actually thinking that what you see on tv is the 100% “truth” , you are going to be in a world of pain. My suggestion is just relax and enjoy the moments that JSM and KJK have as a shipper  :wub:

yupp i worried a lot :sweatingbullets:  I'm try to be rational makin some good sense of theory, i guess i drink to much today lol. Sorry. btw thank because give me some good advice :heart: okay then gonna :sleeping: resttt 

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Once again  . . . sub spoilers.   I won't be able to do this every weekend, but I just had to share (so enjoy the Kookmin moments).  Besides,  these sub spoilers are never as good as watching the epis

That awkward moment when you got caught staring at your "crush" and now you have to pretend like you're looking at someone else.   

I think people are taking the fact that the song is in Banmal to seriously. We know somin is singing about a guy but the lyrics have to be gender neutral due the fact two other guys are singing with her. I think it's the same with informal speech the word oppa can't really be used since soran sings this song on his own even after the fan meeting. I don't believe we can figure out who it's about with this method ^_^

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Okay so first of all hello to all my kookmin shippers in here, I have always read your analysis and you guys rock!  I mean I wasn't really planning to make an account and share my thoughts but I just couldn't resist anymore. Let me first start by saying that I was a jsm fan even before she joined rm and tbh I didn't think this ship would work because kjk always looked uncomfortable with jsm but now he is like a different person. I just watched the latest ep on Moms Diary and wow kjk has really changed even his mom admitted that she has never seen him like that before, I thought I was watching a jsm show, he acted all crazy. Kjk is the type of guy who can't hide his feelings, he will just follow his heart to the end, just like the way he asked jsm to stand by his side in the latest rm ep, I mean it wasn't really necessary, he never says that to ysc although they are close or even to jihyo, it is not like the cameras wouldn't capture jsm, I mean like come on?  I also noticed that when they were in the car kjk  put his drink behind jsm chair while stealing glances at her, even kwangso noticed that a bit, I mean he could have easily put his drink behind jsj chair which was much closer and was on his right unless kjk is left handed? The signs that kjk show is not normal guys, that guy is in love. Remember also when on ep 384 when the guy was reading their fortune he said to jsm that she was very conservative and that her future husband would be like a parent to her. Now kjk comes to my mind, he is like a parent to her already. I also saw another clip of kjk where he tells haha not to casually say I love you to ji hyo and that I love you should only be said to the one you truly love and it's not to be said casually and then he added maybe I'm conservative. So both of them are conservative and as you guys can see kjk is really a romantic but he likes taking things slow (although this days he can't seem control his emotions even on other programs haha) and jsm on the other side is someone who can change him, love him and be loyal to him and I can see that she's already attracted to him, in the song confession (maybe it's just me but) when yjs sings  ''do you also do that with your friends?  doesn't it seem like what kjk would say, I mean, why would ysc say that to her when he is one of her friends. In another ep when yjs says that jsm and young bae came to meet him although he was busy shooting another show kjk comes up to jsm and asks her why she met him alone? And even in the fanmeeting didn't it seem like kjk was singing for  jsm? Am I the only one? when he sings 'I like you' he was basically  looking at her ( he turned his entire body towards her)  but it could be my pabu pabu mind lol. I just hope that they stay stronger and take things slowly and not to worry much about the haters.

I am very attracted to this couple maybe because I was also born in April and I'm myself a romantic person? Let's get along kookmin shippers.

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18 minutes ago, MonaLisa97 said:

Bien, en primer lugar, hola a todos mis cargadores de kookmin aquí, ¡siempre he leído su análisis y ustedes son geniales! Quiero decir que realmente no estaba planeando hacer una cuenta y compartir mis pensamientos, pero simplemente no pude resistir más. Permítanme comenzar diciendo que era un fanático de jsm incluso antes de que ella se uniera a rm y tbh. No pensé que esta nave funcionaría porque kjk siempre parecía incómodo con jsm, pero ahora es como una persona diferente. Acabo de ver el último ep en Moms Diary y wow kjk realmente ha cambiado, incluso su madre admitió que nunca lo había visto así antes, pensé que estaba viendo un programa de jsm, actuó completamente loco. Kjk es el tipo de persona que no puede ocultar sus sentimientos, solo seguirá a su corazón hasta el final, al igual que le pidió a jsm que se pusiera a su lado en la última rm ep, quiero decir que no fue realmente necesario , él nunca dice eso a ysc aunque estén cerca o incluso a jihyo, no es como si las cámaras no capturaran jsm, quiero decir, ¿vamos? También noté que cuando estaban en el auto, kjk puso su bebida detrás de la silla jsm mientras le miraba, incluso kwangso notó eso un poco, es decir, podría haber puesto fácilmente su bebida detrás de la silla jsj, que estaba mucho más cerca y estaba sobre su derecho a menos que kjk sea zurdo? Las señales de que kjk muestran no son chicos normales, ese chico está enamorado. Recuerde también cuando en el episodio 384, cuando el chico estaba leyendo su fortuna, le dijo a jsm que ella era muy conservadora y que su futuro esposo sería como un padre para ella, también vi otro clip de kjk donde le dice a jaja que no diga casualmente Te amo a ji hyo y que te amo solo debería decirle a la persona que realmente amas y eso ' No se debe decir casualmente y luego agregó que tal vez soy conservador. Entonces, como pueden ver, kjk es realmente romántico, pero le gusta tomar las cosas con calma (aunque en estos días parece que no puede controlar sus emociones, incluso en otros programas, jaja) y jsm, por otro lado, es alguien que puede cambiarlo, amarlo y sé leal con él y puedo ver que ella ya se siente atraída por él, en la confesión de la canción (tal vez solo soy yo pero) cuando yjs canta "¿también haces eso con tus amigos? no parece que diría kjk, quiero decir, ¿por qué le diría eso a ella cuando él es uno de sus amigos? En otro episodio, cuando yjs dice que jsm y el joven bae vinieron a su encuentro a pesar de que estaba ocupado filmando otro programa, kjk se acerca a jsm y le pregunta por qué lo conoció solo. E incluso en la reunión de fans no ¿Parece que kjk estaba cantando para jsm? ¿Soy el único? cuando canta "Me gustas" básicamente la estaba mirando (giró todo su cuerpo hacia ella) pero podría ser mi mente pabu pabu jajaja. Solo espero que se mantengan más fuertes y tomen las cosas con calma y no se preocupen demasiado por los que odian.

¿Me atrae mucho esta pareja tal vez porque también nací en abril y soy una persona romántica? Llevémonos bien con los cargadores de kookmin.

I like your analysis.

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 based on rm's and variety show history, if there is a loveline on the show, it is most probably an indication that the feelings aren't serious enough. lovelines require exaggeration and acting for the sake of it. if you have serious feelings that need careful handling, neither you nor the members would make it as part of a loveline. so just take lovelines on shows for what they are meant to be. jsm's policy after her public breakup has been that she will make her relationship public only when she is sure of marriage. she also said that when she is in love, only her close friends know. so i really don't think jsm would enter into a loveline with ysc where she is naming the man she is interested in, if her feelings are deep enough as the song confesses. all we know from the song is that there is a guy out there she likes, we don't know who he is because she hasn't told us. that is what you do when you want to protect the developing relationship. 

 

in ysc's case too, i don't think he is foolish enough to let a real life relationship be risked for the show. He also had gfs while doing RM. he had one when he went to NZ with haha where he video-called someone, then there is the air hostess lks mentioned who raised his temperature more than the questions about jsm and though he says he doesn't have one right now, all those pointed questions about his nickname for his gf in one of the quizzes were just too coincidental. whenever questions about his gf come up, he goes tongue-tied which all show that he wants his private life to be protected.

 

i also go by the vibes i get. there are chances that jsm and ysc could develop serious feelings in the future where a close friendship could turn into love but then the song would be different and their personal vibe will be different. the man in the song seems more kjk than ysc. i read this yesterday from a chinese kookmin shipper -  even kjk's 'one man' has the line  "There’s a man. Who can’t even say I love you" which goes along with jsm's song.

 

ysc and jsm have a close and comfortable friendship but the kind of tension you expect when there is physical attraction is missing for me. jsm can joke she wants the yang brothers to fight over her because she knows it is all for fun. the mock-flirting she does with ysc, she does with the male guests and even with se chan's brother. though kwangmin was not a loveline, even there jsm could ask lks, 'do you like me?' with kjk though, she can never ask that question and even when haha asks her 'do you like him', the otherwise eloquent jsm doesn't have the words to confirm or deny them. then there is all that weird tension where jsm acts completely unlike her playgirl self.

 

i also don't think kjk, of all people, would be needed to intervene in this case because ysc-jsm have the closeness to handle it themselves. they knew each other even before joining the show, even before knowing the other members, so they must have common friends and also hang out together. i also don't see much help from kjk with their loveline. all the ysc-jsm moments happen when kjk is absent from the scene which is a weird coincidence. when he is present in a scene where he is with just the two of them, he in fact does the opposite. when ysc interrupted kjk-jsm when they were having steak, both of their expressions were like 'why are you here? can't you read the scene?' jsm should have looked shy and happy to see ysc when she least expected it but her expression was like 'why did you have to be here?' kjk, if he knew jsm was writing a song asking ysc to confess, should have left them to themselves or even made them sit together. instead, he threatened to punch ysc so that he would end up unconscious outside and even in the picture they took with the restaurant manager has put himself between ysc-jsm and has his arm around her. 

 

kjk, if he was so perceptive, would also not have gone ahead with the couple dance with jsm. it was an intimate dance and jsm was even ready to dance with ysc so as not to burden kjk.  if so, he should have read the scene and scolded ysc for not acting like a man.  but kjk maintained the dance wouldn't work out with others - either lks or ysc. 

 

 i think the reason jsm and ysc kind of seek out each other at the end of fanmeets is because they are the new members of the show. they aren't used to doing fanmeets. every fanmeet is for them the precious moment of being accepted as RM members by the fans. here though, the surprise was that kookmin, instead of celebrating with members with same memories, chose to celebrate with each other.

 

i also don't think yjs meant it literally when he said jsm must be the happiest person there. she didn't look happy when she realised there were going to be no male guests and  the members would act as if they didn't want to be partnered with the female members. she also didn't show any particular inclination towards ysc in the selection round. as long as members had to fight for her, she was happy. even the loveline moment with ysc where she confessed he is her dream man was an imitation of sunny's words to kjk. for jsm who must be happiest to just stand with ysc, didn't it seem like she was still too caught up in kjk-sunny conversation? :D so when yjs says jsm must be the happiest today, perhaps he was trolling her?


yjs is the one who set the loveline up before the fanmeet, but this episode, he didn't mention ysc at all when talking about jsm's ideal type. yjs said she will set her up on a blind date like he usually does and when kjk said, "her charm is the kind which grows on you", his question was addressed to kjk - "did you not realize her charm in the beginning"?

jsm's word was 'fools' perhaps meaning that that yjs (and  kjk) set her up with fools, not that her man is a fool. 

 

as to the song being in banmal, isn't that what suits a straight-talking song where jsm goes all out 'ya kim jong kook .. confess or disappear'. she does address him as kim jong kook when she is mad and he is not around, so for a song like this, i wouldn't be surprised if she uses that tone. in ysc-jsm's first anniversary episode, jsm wanted the members to use banmal for one hour. she must have meant talking to the older members in banmal so i get the feeling her secret wish is to speak informally to some of them which includes kjk. finally, a song is a song even if it is written for someone. it is meant to entertain an audience and make them identify with the situation described. the lyrics have been credited to both jsm and young bae, so he must have also given inputs on how to present the song. 

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8 hours ago, MonaLisa97 said:

 I also noticed that when they were in the car kjk  put his drink behind jsm chair while stealing glances at her, even kwangso noticed that a bit, I mean he could have easily put his drink behind jsj chair which was much closer and was on his right unless kjk is left handed?

 

thank you. i have to check this out. :blush:

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I so agree with you @kookminclan, I never felt a connection between ysc and jsm even when they were having fun in the bus and ysc got so happy and he told yjs ''Hyung I want to get of the bus'' jsm clearly tells him not to be so happy about it, it's like her making a line between them so that he wouldn't over do the situation. In that same ep jsm wasn't talkative with kjk I think maybe because he had other women flirting with him which I found so funny. Everything got better at the fan meeting, you could see how kjk stood beside jsm even if there was no space for him, but she eventually makes a space for him and then what caught my eye was when they were taking  pictures, jsm was first standing behind ysc but she kept her eyes on kjk and slowly  went and sat behind kjk, is this all coincidence? I dont think so. Both jsm and kjk teasing each other on insta, them standing next to each other 90% of the time :wink: and yes I do see ysc being a bit uncomfortable with jsm these days and that's because he is like a third wheel to both of them, when they went to the steak restaurant and he came, when kjk was whispering to jsm ear and he quickly backed off. Ysc has always been uncomfortable with kjk, I think he can't even joke with jsm the way he used to before, he might be afraid kjk will punch him or something. Jsm likes a guy who will stand for her and Kjk is like the bad boy in  high school, where everyone is afraid of him but he is good to the girl he likes. And will always run to protect her from others (jsj for example lol) Trust me Jsm won't be able to resist Kjk :heart:

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If you want an example of lovelines being manufactured and not a reflection fo real feelings only one couple on MBCs We Got Married ended up actually dating and it was after their part of the show ended. No normal person can honestly be randomly lovey dovey comfortably with dozens of staff on the other end of a camera system with lighting, watching them. 

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El 10/01/2019 a las 18:14, MonaLisa97 dijo:

Bien, en primer lugar, hola a todos mis cargadores de kookmin aquí, ¡siempre he leído su análisis y ustedes son geniales! Quiero decir que realmente no estaba planeando hacer una cuenta y compartir mis pensamientos, pero simplemente no pude resistir más. Permítanme comenzar diciendo que era un fanático de jsm incluso antes de que ella se uniera a rm y tbh. No pensé que esta nave funcionaría porque kjk siempre estaba incómodo con jsm,  es como una persona diferente. Acabo de ver el último ep en Moms Diary y wow kjk realmente ha cambiado, incluso su madre admitió que nunca lo había visto así antes, pensé que estaba viendo un programa de jsm, actuó completamente loco.Kjk es el tipo de persona que no puede ocultar sus sentimientos, solo puede afectar su corazón hasta el final, al igual que le solicitó un jsm que se empujó a su lado en la última rm ep, quiero decir que no fue realmente realmente necesario, él nunca dice eso a ysc aunque están cerca o incluso a jihyo, no es como si las cámaras no capturaran jsm, quiero decir, ¿vamos? También noté que cuando estaban en el auto, kjk puso su bebida detrás de la silla jsm mientras le miraba, incluso kwangso notó eso un poco, es decir, podría haber puesto fácilmente su bebida detrás de la silla jsj, que estaba mucho más cerca estaba sobre su derecho a menos que kjk sea zurdo? Las señales de que kjk no están controladas son chicos normales, ese chico está enamorado.Recuerde también cuando en el episodio 384, cuando el chico estaba leyendo su fortuna, le dijo a jsm que ella era muy conservadora y su futuro esposo sería como un padre para ella, también vi otro clip de kjk donde le dice a jaja que no diga casualmente Te amo a ji hyo y que te amo solo debería decirle a la persona que realmente amas y eso ' No se debe decir casualmente y luego agregó que tal vez soy conservador.Entonces, como pueden ver, kjk es realmente romántico, pero le gusta tomar las cosas con calma (aunque en estos días parece que no puede controlar sus emociones, incluso en otros programas, jaja) y jsm, por otro lado, es alguien que puede cambiarlo, amarlo y sé leal con él y puedo ver que ella ya se siente atraída por él, en la confesión de la canción (tal vez solo soy yo yo pero pero) cuando yjs canta "¿también haces eso con tus amigos? no parece que diría kjk, quiero decir, ¿por qué le diría eso a ella cuando él es uno de sus amigos? En otro episodio, cuando yjs dice que jsm y el joven bae vinieron a su encuentro a pesar de que estaba ocupado filmando otro programa, kjk se Electrónico acerca de un JSM y le PREGUNTA por Qué lo conocio en solitario. E INCLUSO en la Reunión de aficionados sin¿Parece que kjk estaba cantando para jsm? ¿Soy el único? cuando canta "Me gustas" podría la estaba mirando (giró todo su cuerpo hacia ella) pero podría ser mi mente pabu pabu jajaja. Solo espero que se mantengan más fuertes y tomen las cosas con calma y no se preocupen demasiado por los que odian.

¿Me atrae mucho esta pareja tal vez porque también nací en abril y soy una persona romántica? Llevémonos bien con los cargadores de kookmin.

Me gusta tu análisis

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4 hours ago, Laijana said:

You've seen that KJK only needs to go up in the stories when he goes to the bathroom... I'm sure you didn't know when you were traveling to the U.S. before.I think they're smoke signals :heart:

I don't get it. 

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On 10/3/2019 at 5:59 AM, MandelBrot said:

E380:

 

 

 

 

 

HANDS!!!!

 

 

He was kinda rude with her sometimes...and he was uncomfortable with her when they were in the same team... she was shy,serious and a bit scared of him too...

But nowdays...ejem...he stands next to her most of the time...he is sweet with her and she is cheerful and happy when she is near him... 

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18 minutes ago, RunningGirl7686 said:

He was kinda rude with her sometimes...and he was uncomfortable with her when they were in the same team... she was shy,serious and a bit scared of him too...

But nowdays...ejem...he stands next to her most of the time...he is sweet with her and she is cheerful and happy when she is near him... 

 

I'm going to upload more videos of older eps... I want to show how much kjk has changed in recent months :blush:

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1 hour ago, MandelBrot said:

 

I'm going to upload more videos of older eps... I want to show how much kjk has changed in recent months :blush:

 

You're awesome.  We want more more more gifs. Thanks for your labor :love:

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I am an old fans of running man, and tbh I felt offended when new casts joined RM. So it has been more than 2 years I avoid watching any clips related RM esp when JSM's in thumbnail (I'm talking about youtube clips). But I accidentally watch her cursing at YSC when she was mistreated or so, not caring for the guests (I think it was SNSD? Not really sure) and I decided to watch some random episodes with new casts.


I have to admit that I forced myself not to scream when I saw how much KJK has changed from the tiger-thug-winning-oriented I remembered. I mean, who is that cute muscular cat wearing orange t-shirt? Or pink short? Or laughing happily when he lose? Or eating high carbs food such as waffle? Or talking about his love life with such sentiment? Or EATING THE MADA FAKA RAMEN?


Is he really the KJK that I know will tear name tags ferociously? Is he the same person who hated to talk about personal life on camera?

:scream:

 

Guys, I don't want to stir any problem, but imho, KJK is the one who's having crush on JSM. Idk about what she feels back at him, but right after ep 461 when they talked about YSC-JSM loveline, he was definitely getting restless. I noticed that he started to unconsciously showed his concerns throughout this episode and he didn't even get mad when JSM-JSJ betrayed him. I wish I could show you how shocked I was when I see him being helpless and quiet although as far as I remember, he should be mad at least at JSJ.


And JSJ! Oh my gosh, since when that grumpy old man taking care of other person beside himself? He def adores JSM and if you focus on some scene, you'll see that he sometimes gives JSM fatherly smile which is another surprise for me. My guess is that probably JSJ is one of the first member who realised KJK's feeling to JSM and he secretly cheer on their possible relationship as you can see that he is always the first member who broke YSC-JSM loveline topics whilst never intervene KJK-JSM interaction. Idk, I dare not making another assumption as I still feel a little bitter about monday couple thingy even though I am glad that kang gary can find his happiness. However, damn, KJK anomalies have made me making this account and commenting on this forum.


Ps. I will start to watch RM again to see KJK transformation lol

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I mean 461 not 361
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