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[Drama 2019] Extraordinary You / Suddenly One Day, 어쩌다 발견한 하루 - 2019 MBC Drama of the Year

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4 hours ago, larrysouth said:

However, I would agree that this is not a major plot point of the series.  I think it has more to do about what are our perceived roles and can we breakout of those roles.  I am not talking about Dan-Oh's role as a terminally ill patient.  What is much more interesting is how she decides to live her life with the knowledge that she may die any day.  I think this series speaks more to how one can live one's life regardless of the circumstances we are placed in: terminally ill, arranged marriage, poor, in an abusive family situation, etc.


Bingo. :)  That’s what the last episode highlighted.  Notice on their hooky date, they simply forgot about trying to change DO’s fate and instead poured all their energies into being “present” in the now thereby wasting none in the worrying?  Stuff of memories.

 

1 hour ago, brielover said:

But the overall formula does not come from the writer; it's a planned framework of tried and true cliches, that the writer must adhere to for money and marketability and publishability. 


And it plays out even here in forums etc.  There’s a set formula which everyone expects.  A romance, skinship, the main lead gets the girl, the second lead doesn’t.  Any deviation from this formula results in a backlash.  It inhibits creativity and freedom of expression.  This drama is satirical.  Rowoon plays the main lead in this drama and Lee JaeWook the second lead (despite the story depicting the reverse).  By default, Rowoon should end up with the girl.  I used to wonder why there was this huge debate before a drama starts about which male lead was the main lead.  And I guess this is why.  The audience wants to know that their chosen hero would end up with the girl in the end.  Like @brielover suggested, there’s an inner battle going on in the writer’s mind between giving the audience what they want/expect (tried and tested formula) or pushing the boundaries by being radically difference and risking the ire of the audience and marketability as a result.   It could be why he/she is painting BK as such a tyrant in the comic.  How far can the writer take his main lead comic character before EVERYONE abandons him and hops onto the second lead Haru’s ship?  

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Dan Oh finding Ha Ru or Ha Ru finding Dan Oh. :D

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@brielover

I really like your thoughts on the characters and formula. :D I remember a friend of mine who did a workshop on writing a very specific type of romance genre as well. And she was taught that certain characters need to be in that genre to make it exactly that. And even certain plot structures which the writer can't really move away from. I think it's interesting we're all so schooled to look out for certain ideas and structures, not only in K-dramas but movies and books as well. I think sometimes there is nothing wrong with that. But of course it makes things more interesting when a writer is trying something new.

 

With "Secret" I really can't tell what the actual plan of the writer is. To me, he/she comes across as not original at all because he/she actually follow a certain formular we know from manhwas and K-dramas.

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I really want to know though why the writer suddenly decides to bring in Jinmichae's girl. And Do Hwa introduces her. I'm really curious. "Secret"-writer-nim! What is your plan!?

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Haruyaaa Haruyaaaa, yes I watch again and again an my mood::wub::lol:

 

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KimHye Yoon's acting really remind me Park Bo Young :lol: while she was saying "Haruyaaaa" and our sweet couple like second Strong Woman couple :wub:

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I remember they did cast child actors for Ha Ru as well. So we will have those scenes coming. :D

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9 hours ago, Jillia said:

Dan Oh finding Ha Ru or Ha Ru finding Dan Oh. :D

 

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@brielover

I really like your thoughts on the characters and formula. :D I remember a friend of mine who did a workshop on writing a very specific type of romance genre as well. And she was taught that certain characters need to be in that genre to make it exactly that. And even certain plot structures which the writer can't really move away from. I think it's interesting we're all so schooled to look out for certain ideas and structures, not only in K-dramas but movies and books as well. I think sometimes there is nothing wrong with that. But of course it makes things more interesting when a writer is trying something new.

 

With "Secret" I really can't tell what the actual plan of the writer is. To me, he/she comes across as not original at all because he/she actually follow a certain formular we know from manhwas and K-dramas.

I think a clue to the writer can be found in all the books the characters are actually reading: classics that broke new ground in literature, even, or especially, Pride and Prejudice when first written, and poetry.

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I think in the end, it's really not about changing the plot or turning Dan Oh into a different character. If anything the drama and especially the world the characters live in made it clear that things are set in stone because that's what their characters are supposed to be like. So they live and make the best out of their lives in the shadows. Just like Paulo Coehlho and Yann Martel suggest.

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9 hours ago, nrllee said:


Bingo. :)  That’s what the last episode highlighted.  Notice on their hooky date, they simply forgot about trying to change DO’s fate and instead poured all their energies into being “present” in the now thereby wasting none in the worrying?  Stuff of memories.

 


And it plays out even here in forums etc.  There’s a set formula which everyone expects.  A romance, skinship, the main lead gets the girl, the second lead doesn’t.  Any deviation from this formula results in a backlash.  It inhibits creativity and freedom of expression.  This drama is satirical.  Rowoon plays the main lead in this drama and Lee JaeWook the second lead (despite the story depicting the reverse).  By default, Rowoon should end up with the girl.  I used to wonder why there was this huge debate before a drama starts about which male lead was the main lead.  And I guess this is why.  The audience wants to know that their chosen hero would end up with the girl in the end.  Like @brielover suggested, there’s an inner battle going on in the writer’s mind between giving the audience what they want/expect (tried and tested formula) or pushing the boundaries by being radically difference and risking the ire of the audience and marketability as a result.   It could be why he/she is painting BK as such a tyrant in the comic.  How far can the writer take his main lead comic character before EVERYONE abandons him and hops onto the second lead Haru’s ship?  

Yes, and I admit to being one of those people who like to know the OTP from the beginning ... of a kdrama.   Not like this one though.  Extraordinarily You is extraordinarily successful so far in its experiment.  It was pretty risky but I guess after W's success the producers decided to go with it.  W didn't have a patch on this show, however, in terms of engaging with the free will debate, or keeping us in suspense, or delivering such fun, well-rounded main and side characters.  If I taught Korean literature in Korea, I'd use this as a teaching text script because it engages so many genres and concepts in its self-reflective satire.

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As for me, I ship Dan oh with Haru because apparently, in that historical comic Haru was the second lead and his chance to have a happy ending with Dan Oh were literally 0%
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I think the situation going for Kyung is totally unfair because he is abandoned from both sides, his family and the woman he loves


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I really felt sorry for him when He tried to explain his real feeling for Danoh after the scene came to an end but she ignored him


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While when Haru was gone she told him that he is the only one who understands her situation and knows about the comic (Hello? Dohwa still exists!)

 

Anyways! I really love this drama and hopefully Dan oh treat Kyung better so He finally could be able to change his abusive character when he is in the Shadow!

This gonna be really interesting If Kyung understand Dan oh's choice about being with Haru and just want her to be happy (like what Dohwa did) and team up with them to change the story together! + Juda

Can't wait until Wednesday! <3

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Im a silent reader in that Thread. I have to float here because of Beak Kyung - Lee Jae Wook. I don't wanna bash Rowoon, he act good enough. BUt for me I just can see Jae Wook ' charisma (sorry Rowoon) even thought he is not pretty like standard of Korea (I think...)

So i watched back nearly JW's drama Search WWW. i suddently found he is a talent. Wow. BK can not have that girl but have many fangirl. 

 

Anyone like me? :ph34r: :ph34r: :ph34r:

He is so young. And i somewhere that BK Will say Danoh that: 

"The relationship we have leaves nothing but scars, me who maintains fake relationship, with you who is sick it was nothing but pain for me,.. so i came to hate you but people say things so easily "then treat her with honesty" isn't just that even more pain? Youre just going to leave me, and the person getting left behind would be me again. Whether its fake or real, you and i will filled with nothing but scars. So i avoided you and tried to run away as much as i could. But now i know one thing, if you die, i will received a scars that cannot be erased.. i dont like my tommorow without you. Do whatever you want . I was always that guy and i will always that guy so i want you to look at me just one last time, lets operate danoh"

(cr; leejaewookit)

That's touchy. Imagine with Jae Wook's act. My heart will explore :((

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Can we please stop making Dan Oh responsible for Kyung to change? I'm sorry but I take this issue very serious. For many decades women were supposed to be responsible for men's shortcomings. But we're in 2019, and we should at least move on from that perception. It's not Dan Oh's duty to change Kyung. She was pretty honest with him when it comes to her feelings for him and that she will only act on stage but what she does in the shadows it's up to her. I think she was very fair to him in regards of that. She could've lead him on and make him believe her crush is real for his sake. But that would've been unfair and a lie. So I think she did well and everything else is up to Kyung.

 

Just to remind you all what Kyung did to Dan Oh:

 

1) he belittled Dan Oh for 10 years

2) he was and still is constantly talking down to her about her illness, on stage and in the shadow

3) he left her in the woods, knowing full well she could have heart attack there - and only returned after being comfortable in his hotel room with Do Hwa asking him where Dan Oh is

4) he grabs her arm - painfully - she even told him it hurts, yet he doesn't let go until Ha Ru removes his ar

5) he told her "It's not like you're dying" - which makes him heartless

 

Speak after me:

 

It's NOT Dan Oh's task to fix Kyung, it's HIS task to fix himself.

 

Like I get he has a hard time with his family and I feel for him but I'm sorry everyone in this drama has a hard time. Just because not everyone is in a abusive father-son-relationship doesn't make their fates less difficult to deal with.

 

@Doramy

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You're very welcome in the thread. :D But refrain from making personal remarks about the actors. If you start a sentence with "I don't want to bash but..." you should maybe think again if you want to post what you posted. I put those parts of your post in spoiler tags. Keep your posts on the drama itself.

 

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@Jillia

What you said about kyung's change process is pretty reasonable, I hope you didn't misunderstand my post later because What I really want is DO and Haru to help him go through this not that i see DO guilty of Kyung's abusive behaviour!

You know what I say is that I really love to see these three as characters with forced fates who wanna change their cruel ending together not another cliché love-traingle. I'm talking about something like that friendly love-traingle in drama The King Loves (Trivia: The Director of TKL is the same as this drama)

 

and yeah I hope some fans stop making her responsible for that anymore because I see this happen everywhere these days, not only this furom!

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Sorry I'm being not very interactive this week coz I'm still in dream land

 

 

I don't have much to say but I wanna watch the next episode on Wednesday soon!

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Nice to know the male leads are getting offers.

 

Any news on Kim Hye Yoon's next project?

I love her so much and wish she will get more offers with different types of characters. 

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2 hours ago, StefC said:

Nice to know the male leads are getting offers.

 

Any news on Kim Hye Yoon's next project?

I love her so much and wish she will get more offers with different types of characters. 

I am sure she is getting some offers but I hope its a different genre for her next.

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Wow!  It looks like the HR vs BK debate has heated up again.  Maybe we should look at this from a slightly different perspective.  As opposed to developing arguments about why DO should like either HR or BK or looking at the backgrounds of HR & BK; instead shouldn't we look at what DO wants?  How would you feel if you told your friends that you liked a particular person and their reaction was negative?  Your friends go on to explain that there is this other person you should like instead.  This other person has had a rough history and will need work to get that other person to be a good life partner.  If you knew this other person and did not care for them, would your friends' information in any way alter how you feel about the person you really like?  It does not matter if you ship BK, HR, DH, or even NJ.  The person Dan Oh likes is the person she likes and we should be willing to accept that.

 

I get that everyone has their ship and it is perfectly OK to say this is my favorite ship.  However, lets not overly focus on defending our ship because in the end this only degrades into negative comment exchanges which really detracts from this truly wonderful series.  I think all the actors are doing a wonderful job on Extraordinary You as well as writer-nim and the director.  I have not been so delighted with a series in a very long time.  I am just keeping my fingers crossed that the remainder of the series continues to be this strong. 

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