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[Drama 2019] Extraordinary You / Suddenly One Day, 어쩌다 발견한 하루 - 2019 MBC Drama of the Year


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19 minutes ago, ganko said:

I am rewatching the earlier episodes and in episode 6, when Dohwa plays the violin he says it's called Pleasures of Love when he tells Juda his feelings! I had forgotten about it, so i wonder since Juda said it in the latest episode, she must've been aware around that time...I didn't make that connection, i just thought she was being positive haha

Hi @ganko!  In reviewing that episode, do you recall if they are in stage or shadow when the scene takes place between Joo-Da and Do-Hwa?  That would make a difference since unaware characters would remember anything that happened in stage.  However, if it happened in shadow, then you are correct.  She would have already been aware by the time of that scene.

 

8 minutes ago, Jillia said:

It definitely more of a satire than anything else but without being too funny or too serious about it. Just the right balance. I definitely would agree. In the end it's about having fun while watching. And just enjoying what we get out of it. :D Just sometimes I really keep wondering. Plus the characters really challenge us to theorize about how the concept of story changing really works.

I agree completely.  This is a series that is funny, romantic and serious all in the correct amounts.  I would go so far as to say this is probably my favorite series of the year.  It drew me in from the very first episode.

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Hahahaha... these two cuties really. I wonder though why they would try to hide their feelings in front of Do Hwa. He is their biggest shipper. Plus Ha Ru asking Dan Oh if he needs to practice flirtin

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I'm actually optimistic when it comes to the last 6 episodes. I mean there are many many drama which can fall apart in the last episode even, so who knows. But I would stay pacing in this drama - story-wise - is pretty good. So I don't think it will feel rushed. :D

 

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Yes, definitely one of my favorite dramas this year. :D And I didn't even expect it or wasn't looking forward to it. I just tuned it and it stole my heart.

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38 minutes ago, Nymeria289 said:

I understand with 16 episode format, its hard to flesh out everyone. But Kyung is criminally underutilized is my observation. He needs more screen time with Dan Oh meaningfully and more fleshing out to make case for his angst ridden behavior.

Along with Dan Oh they should also show some more scenes of him with his family. Baek Kyung's character can be very interesting if it is well utilised. We need to see his struggle and how he managed himself all these years to completely understand him. It doesn't seem like Dan Oh wants to be friends with him which is somehow understandable given his 10 years harsh treatment towards her. He is close with A3 but it doesn't feel like he will ever share his problems with them. So his brother seems to be the only person from whom he can take help. He seems to genuinely care for him though he is suspicious sometimes. While writing this I realized just how lonely BK is :tears:.

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A general reminder:

 

I will hide any comment which may start conflict in the thread. There is no need to become personal, e.g. insulting the actors, in order to show dissatisfaction. We can all have discussions like adults here. But any post that goes beyond exactly that will be hidden.

 

-Jillia

 

Plus, I personally think we have not much to complain about when it comes to acting - from any actor in this drama. :)

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20 minutes ago, larrysouth said:

Hi @ganko!  In reviewing that episode, do you recall if they are in stage or shadow when the scene takes place between Joo-Da and Do-Hwa?  That would make a difference since unaware characters would remember anything that happened in stage.  However, if it happened in shadow, then you are correct.  She would have already been aware by the time of that scene.

 

Not sure! I was thinking since he plays the violin, they are in stage mode but since he also confesses i wondered if it's in the shadow. Because he can't make his own lines on stage right? Afterwards, Haru mentions that she won't remember, but Dohwa says he has to tell her anyway. It's a bit confusing. But i was thinking that the melody is really named Sorrows of Love and that Dohwa changed to Pleasures of Love for his confession. I don't know, just an observation haha

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15 minutes ago, -Love Blossom- said:

@Jillia True even though the drama has relatively new actors and two idols still the acting is not awkward at all. Knetizens are also not criticizing them like they always do :lol:

If knetizens aren't criticizing then the drama cast is pretty lucky. :lol: Like I would be terrified with each new drama, waiting for the knetizen dramatics to start. LMAO

 

On another note: I kinda had to laugh at Ha Ru taking pictures of Dan Oh, falling to the side. I love that he was so smitten by her not so long legs. :wub:

 

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Btw... I have to laugh at those who find DanHaRu couple boring. You know... I rather want a boyfriend who treats me with respect and warmth and adores me to no end than a man who keeps dragging me violently around. But maybe that's just me... :P

 

@ganko @larrysouth

In episode 6 - I just rewatched the scene - it was in the shadows. So it could be true that Joo Da was already aware. :)

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21 minutes ago, Jillia said:

 

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Btw... I have to laugh at those who find DanHaRu couple boring. You know... I rather want a boyfriend who treats me with respect and warmth and adores me to no end than a man who keeps dragging me violently around. But maybe that's just me... :P

 

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You are not the only one. I would also want a warm and gentle boyfriend who will love and adore me like Haru than those tsundere guys whose love depends on their mood. Like nice to me one moment and then cold to me the next.:lol:

 

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20 minutes ago, -Love Blossom- said:
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Tsundere characters are so oldschool I hope k-dramas can move on from that. :lol: And I really mean it. I'm not here for female leads falling for a man who treats them badly. Btw... I don't like that in mangas, manhwas or books either.

 

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7 minutes ago, Nymeria289 said:

Hey read on twitter that the show wraaped up filming .....is it true??

I checked DC Gall and nobody is mentioning anything about that the filming wrapped up. On the other hand, it's in midst of the night in South Korea. But also some cast members were still filming today. So I guess they haven't wrapped up filming completey. Plus, they only filmed a couple scene of the recent episodes only a week before the episode aired, so I don't believe they're that far ahead.

 

But I would wish for them to wrap up filming quicker than the drama ends, so they don't have to give up on sleeping and resting. :)

 

On another note - now the pre-survey for the Blu-ray/DVD is available, so if you're interested, do the survey. :D

 

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10 hours ago, Jillia said:

@brielover

Definitely a interesting theory.

 

In the beginning I thought as well what if actually anything happening - even in the shadows - is part of the writers storyboard? Who tells us that Dan Oh and Ha Ru aren't actually the main couple in this manhwa and the reader (like we as the viewers of the drama) slowly finds out about it?

 

What if the secret in this manhwa is actually the shadow part of the comic - that characters exist and act outside the stage and fall in love? I mean there is no real indicator for that but at the same time there is nothing speaking against my theory. Because nobody, not even Jinmichae, completely understand how this world works.

 

In the end that would of course be a bit unfair because that would mean that the characters, no matter what, have no control as they believe they have. Just like Jinmichae said: that anything is already drawn. And it would go up against what the drama is trying to convey that even if you think you're fake you still can have a life and personality and dislikes.

 

It's definitely going to be interesting how the drama will resolve all this in the last 6 episodes. Because I hope they do it in a way it makes sense and it just leaves Extraordinary You as probably one of the best highschool fantasy romances. :D

 

I don't think that even if they are in the writer's mind the characters have no control.  My understanding of how polarizing an exercise this could be comes from trying to write a Harlequin Romance over twenty years ago.  There was an actual written formula that could be followed, and I'd had some success with short stories, so thought I could churn out a HR with ease to make a quick buck.

 

Wrong.  It was difficult to churn out even a chapter.  Every word and sentence had to be rigorously controlled.  Characters constantly said and did things that didn't fit the formula, because writing fiction is an artistic expression after all, so any flow, any unrestricted honesty or artistry, had to be endlessly corrected.  It was like being strait-jacketed.  You'll find this in any writing endeavour during the editing process but this went well beyond that.  The lasting impression for me by the time I gave up, and how I remember that sorry writing attempt, was an icon on my desktop representing a loony-bin filled with my strait-jacketed characters. I don't ever want to open that front door door again! (And of course I can't because that computer used floppy discs for back-up!)

 

To writers, some of their characters are alive.  They do and say things that are logical progressions of their personalities and experiences.  That's how it works and the better developed a character, the more a writer can let go, because the character writes him or herself.   

 

But the overall formula does not come from the writer; it's a planned framework of tried and true cliches, that the writer must adhere to for money and marketability and publishability. 

 

I don't know if I've described this very well, but I do think it's true, and it's definitely the dynamic I see in Extraordinary You.  The writer's most well-developed characters are writing themselves in Shadow, and the catalyst for this free will is the writer's own avatar, Haru.

 

I was explaining somewhere else about the alternate title: Suddenly One Day.  John Gardner in The Art of Fiction once said there were only two real plots (debatable, but still a dictum): 1) the character goes on a journey; or 2) a stranger comes to town.  Fiction exercises in how to books often began with a stock story starter, and the student had to run with it, and this one is the cliche: "Suddenly, one day, a stranger came to town".

 

Haru's name means one day.  So we have the pun: 'Suddenly, Haru, a stranger, came to town.'. And the plot begins there.  Dan Oh paints the picture of the status quo of her life and school in the first episode, when suddenly, there's a shift in her consciousness, self-awareness begins, followed by the discovery of a newly-identifiable boy in school and a watery black hole in the sky.  'Suddenly, Haru, a stranger came to town".

 

Haru is the writer's spoiler, sent to wake up the townsfolk.  But at the same time, the writer has to sell his or her story, so she's split between quelling Haru and the woken characters and giving her imagination free rein, translating into the character's free will.

 

 

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2 hours ago, -Love Blossom- said:

@Jillia True even though the drama has relatively new actors and two idols still the acting is not awkward at all. Knetizens are also not criticizing them like they always do :lol:

Because Rowoon's acting is so good and there are so much praise to his acting on Naver but there is other strange case , please everybody leave good comments Rowoon's IG , TW or fancafe , He need support.I think his heart is broken :tears:, really there are so many strange people in the world:tears: I hope he will finish nicely. 

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4 hours ago, larrysouth said:

However, I would agree that this is not a major plot point of the series.  I think it has more to do about what are our perceived roles and can we breakout of those roles.  I am not talking about Dan-Oh's role as a terminally ill patient.  What is much more interesting is how she decides to live her life with the knowledge that she may die any day.  I think this series speaks more to how one can live one's life regardless of the circumstances we are placed in: terminally ill, arranged marriage, poor, in an abusive family situation, etc.


Bingo. :)  That’s what the last episode highlighted.  Notice on their hooky date, they simply forgot about trying to change DO’s fate and instead poured all their energies into being “present” in the now thereby wasting none in the worrying?  Stuff of memories.

 

1 hour ago, brielover said:

But the overall formula does not come from the writer; it's a planned framework of tried and true cliches, that the writer must adhere to for money and marketability and publishability. 


And it plays out even here in forums etc.  There’s a set formula which everyone expects.  A romance, skinship, the main lead gets the girl, the second lead doesn’t.  Any deviation from this formula results in a backlash.  It inhibits creativity and freedom of expression.  This drama is satirical.  Rowoon plays the main lead in this drama and Lee JaeWook the second lead (despite the story depicting the reverse).  By default, Rowoon should end up with the girl.  I used to wonder why there was this huge debate before a drama starts about which male lead was the main lead.  And I guess this is why.  The audience wants to know that their chosen hero would end up with the girl in the end.  Like @brielover suggested, there’s an inner battle going on in the writer’s mind between giving the audience what they want/expect (tried and tested formula) or pushing the boundaries by being radically difference and risking the ire of the audience and marketability as a result.   It could be why he/she is painting BK as such a tyrant in the comic.  How far can the writer take his main lead comic character before EVERYONE abandons him and hops onto the second lead Haru’s ship?  

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Dan Oh finding Ha Ru or Ha Ru finding Dan Oh. :D

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@brielover

I really like your thoughts on the characters and formula. :D I remember a friend of mine who did a workshop on writing a very specific type of romance genre as well. And she was taught that certain characters need to be in that genre to make it exactly that. And even certain plot structures which the writer can't really move away from. I think it's interesting we're all so schooled to look out for certain ideas and structures, not only in K-dramas but movies and books as well. I think sometimes there is nothing wrong with that. But of course it makes things more interesting when a writer is trying something new.

 

With "Secret" I really can't tell what the actual plan of the writer is. To me, he/she comes across as not original at all because he/she actually follow a certain formular we know from manhwas and K-dramas.

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I really want to know though why the writer suddenly decides to bring in Jinmichae's girl. And Do Hwa introduces her. I'm really curious. "Secret"-writer-nim! What is your plan!?

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9 hours ago, Jillia said:

Dan Oh finding Ha Ru or Ha Ru finding Dan Oh. :D

 

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@brielover

I really like your thoughts on the characters and formula. :D I remember a friend of mine who did a workshop on writing a very specific type of romance genre as well. And she was taught that certain characters need to be in that genre to make it exactly that. And even certain plot structures which the writer can't really move away from. I think it's interesting we're all so schooled to look out for certain ideas and structures, not only in K-dramas but movies and books as well. I think sometimes there is nothing wrong with that. But of course it makes things more interesting when a writer is trying something new.

 

With "Secret" I really can't tell what the actual plan of the writer is. To me, he/she comes across as not original at all because he/she actually follow a certain formular we know from manhwas and K-dramas.

I think a clue to the writer can be found in all the books the characters are actually reading: classics that broke new ground in literature, even, or especially, Pride and Prejudice when first written, and poetry.

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