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Eeeek... I know the scene looked familiar. Thank you for posting the reference screenshot from the Ao Haru Ride manga. :D

 

I'm really wondering what the tragic ending in "Trumpet Creeper" was and if @renjunnie's theory comes true.

 

That last scene before the kiss hurt a great deal. With Ha Ru trying to get to Dan Oh and Dan Oh trying to get to Ha Ru. No wonder the Korean viewers thought while watching the show that Secret writer is crazy. It makes me really wonder if the writer is actually in the manhwa as well (e.g. Kyung's little brother?) or why the writer is being so cruel to them.

 

I think maybe Ha Ru was really a glitch or a character who felt too good to be actually used as a main lead and the writer just decided to write him off. But he found his way to "Secret" anyways?

 

Judging from the preview: Ha Ru bought the pendant but Kyung will make it look like it's a present from him? I just want to find out all about "Trumpet Creeper".

 

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Hahahaha... these two cuties really. I wonder though why they would try to hide their feelings in front of Do Hwa. He is their biggest shipper. Plus Ha Ru asking Dan Oh if he needs to practice flirtin

It doesn't matter if the manhwa world is real or not. The characters are the ones who turn their world into reality.   In this drama it seems that on the one hand the real writer is using D

I think HR killed DO but it was not deliberate and he grabbed the sword with his left hand to stop it but it was too late. But the scene doesn’t look like a sword fight. It starts off with guards surr

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By the way, is anyone else scared for Kyung after his brother’s desperate warning?

 

I’ve been saying since the beginning the writer has included a curious symmetry between Kyung and Haru, and that impression strengthens every episode. It goes further than that they are two men in a life triangle with Dan Oh. I’ve put forward a number of theories for this: Kyung and Haru are two sides of the same person; Kyung and Haru were brothers in a previous ‘life’/book; Haru was Kyung’s bodyguard (he is protective of him even in Secret) in Flower, etc.

 

Someone says (Squid Fairy?) that only Kyung can change the stage. His brother desperately tells him not to change anything.  Why?  What is the brother afraid might happen?

 

But we ourselves are already seeing a major change: Haru is taking on Kyung’s status, as athlete, as scholar, and as Dan Oh’s love.

 

I think he should be very very afraid. With Haru in the picture, he’s becoming disposable. And if this story requires someone to die, and Dan Oh is able to avert that fate…?

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4 hours ago, bebebisous33 said:

Now, I am wondering if Haru is different from the other characters because he doesn't belong to that story initially. It was outlined many times that Haru's beginning is unknown to which Haru replied that he would find his own answer. Since even Jiminchae has no idea about Haru's origin, I have been thinking that Haru might have been from the start the disturbance element in the manhwas. After appearing in Trumpet creeper, he fell in love with DO which somehow ended in a tragedy. That would explain why Haru is the only one who can change the scene on stage as he doesn't belong entirely to the story. Additionally, it would also explain why Haru can remember the "past", scenes from the manhwa "Trumper creeper". Maybe the story is repeating itself, until Haru is able to really fit in the story: he ends up with DO. Maybe the page from the manhwa showing Haru as main character next to DO and BK is the final stage of the story... maybe he started there as an extra as well...  

 

DO willed Haru into existence in Secret.  He wasn’t meant to be there.  She needed a saviour when she realized her plight.  That’s why he was initially faceless (like in the comic), we didn’t see his face till ep4 (?).  She willed him into existence.  She named him.  Initially he was voiceless, he just did as he was told by DO (no will of his own).  The beach scene was the first time he exercised his own will, he chose to disobey her order to save her as she waded into the water.  That’s why he suddenly could speak at the end of that scene.  He found his own voice.  He could change the scene because he was not in the character profiles and therefore outside the writer’s control.   He even changed the stage at the party.  That was significant.  Because in effect, the spotlight was now on BK and DO, not DH and NJ.  His character continued to grow so much that the writer had no choice but to remove Haru1 and draw him in as Haru2.  Now that he was drawn in as an extra (and his face in the character profiles), he could be controlled just like all the other extras.  His memory was wiped as a result.  But DO’s stubborn refusal to forget Haru1 resulted in Haru2’s self awareness.  By penning him as BK’s friend in the reboot, the writer has inadvertently copied the storyline in Trumpet Flower where HR is BK’s faithful servant.  So HR2 now sees in his dreams the memories of TF.  In this episode we see that he’s pushing the envelope even further.  He’s making the 3 of them become leads in Secret now (just like in Trumpet Flower).  Thereby relegating NJ/JD/DH into the extras/supporting character roles.  That’s why suddenly the dynamic in the NJ/JD/DH relationship has changed in this most recent ep.  This whole scenario could’ve been the same in Trumpet Flower, she willed Haru into existence there too?  I don’t know.  

 

Problem I have is that I don’t see a happy ending for the leads in Trumpet Flower.  I see HR sacrificing himself to save DO.  I don’t know if we will see a Romeo Juliet type ending.  My only comfort is the promise they made by that 300year old tree.  That they will always “meet” despite all odds stacked against them.  That they will keep living lifetime after lifetime in different comics hoping one day the writer caves and gives them their happy ever after, which may never happen.  But that’s not the point.  It’s not about their final ending, it’s about their now (the present), making the best of the time they do have regardless.  I quite like that line of thinking.  Because it’s one thing to bemoan our lot in life and wishing to be dealt a better hand, but it takes a great deal of maturity to think beyond the circumstances and live the best life with the hand you’re dealt with regardless.

 

EDIT - actually I find that death crystalises what’s precious in life.  When you’re faced with the finality of it all, you cling to things that are dear to you.  It gives you added urgency and everything that happens has holds a greater meaning.  You enjoy the sunshine, you enjoy the friendships, you are less likely to be annoyed with trivialities.  That’s why even for the audience, the moments they shared in last night’s episode holds more meaning.  It’s due to the backdrop of death.

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I definitely think things are falling apart for Kyung. Even the students suddenly notice how badly Kyung is treating Dan Oh on stage and comment on that. In the past they didn't even care. And then Kyung was wondering when Ha Ru became a male lead. So... yes, it looks like no matter what the focus changes to Ha Ru instead of Kyung. And since Kyung needs to be in control because if he let that happen things will change to a point he becomes as useless as Ha Ru was when he was unaware and a mere extra. And Kyung doesn't want that.

 

As he said to Jinmichae he wants everything to back to as it was before.

 

 

But what has been worrying more for me is Dan Oh right now. Her health is getting worse, even in the shadows, so Secret writer is determined to go on with her setup as planned. And Ha Ru is desperate to change her fate. Meanwhile Dan Oh seems to accept her fate but rather wants to spend her remaining time with the person she loves than what the writer is doing to her on stage.

 

I just hope Kyung comes to the conclusion that he's got no chance and is keeping his tantrums to himself. Nobody got time for his anger management problems when things escalate for Dan Oh. Like deal with your identity crisis but leave Dan Oh alone, okay? It's not even about Ha Ru and Dan Oh and how Kyung tries to get a chance with her. I think it's safe to say: the train has left the station. But if there is one thing Dan Oh doesn't need in the shadow and it's Kyung throwing one of his anger tantrums at her.

 

@nrllee

I think you're  confusing when Ha Ru became aware in "Secret". :) He was already aware long before Dan Oh became aware and he got a voice before. He was just trying to speak to Dan Oh but since she wouldn't respond (because she was unaware and her character had nothing to do with him) he probably just gave up. It was Dan Oh who assumed he couldn't talk because he is an extra without any setup and lines in the manhwa. But that was wrong. 

 

Plus he did change things on his own before the summer camp. The whole stairways scene: Dan Oh didn't see Ha Ru in it. She thought she would fall without someone stopping it. But Ha Ru stepped in on the actual stage. So... it was him who changed how the scene played out in the end. And that's how Dan Oh became determined to find "the back" aka Ha Ru. :)

 

That doesn't mean you're completely wrong. Because Dan Oh was certainly part of the reason why Ha Ru became aware. But why and how exactly this happened will remain a mystery until we find out what happened in "Trumpet Creeper".

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Just a question: why are people saying JuDa is aware?  I have been assuming the hints that she's not exactly the perfect good girl can be attributed to a revenge 'secret' plot in which she is involved, not to her awareness of the comic.  Can someone pinpoint how to figure out she is aware?  Something to do with stage versus shadow?  Or a spoiler, lol? I'd like to know cause I can end speculation in another area if she's indeed aware.

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4 hours ago, bebebisous33 said:

Now, I am wondering if Haru is different from the other characters because he doesn't belong to that story initially. It was outlined many times that Haru's beginning is unknown to which Haru replied that he would find his own answer. Since even Jiminchae has no idea about Haru's origin, I have been thinking that Haru might have been from the start the disturbance element in the manhwas. After appearing in Trumpet creeper, he fell in love with DO which somehow ended in a tragedy. That would explain why Haru is the only one who can change the scene on stage as he doesn't belong entirely to the story. Additionally, it would also explain why Haru can remember the "past", scenes from the manhwa "Trumper creeper". Maybe the story is repeating itself, until Haru is able to really fit in the story: he ends up with DO. Maybe the page from the manhwa showing Haru as main character next to DO and BK is the final stage of the story... maybe he started there as an extra as well...  

All of this is entirely possible.  He's almost like a virus initially, that attacks the system, and when the system strikes back, he returns as a retrovirus, imitating its host (Kyung) in preparation to taking over from its host.  I'm sure no one wants to take this view of darling Haru, but the similarity is definitely there!

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7 minutes ago, brielover said:

Just a question: why are people saying JuDa is aware?  I have been assuming the hints that she's not exactly the perfect good girl can be attributed to a revenge 'secret' plot in which she is involved, not to her awareness of the comic.  Can someone pinpoint how to figure out she is aware?  Something to do with stage versus shadow?  Or a spoiler, lol? I'd like to know cause I can end speculation in another area if she's indeed aware.

It's the way they have been editing the scenes with her while being on stage.

 

Like for example when Dan Oh, Kyung, Ha Ru and Do Hwa are on stage there is always a cut to them what they're thinking while their scenes play out. I can't post a gif right not but in the last two episodes we got this for Joo Da as well. Plus in the last episode she - as soon as the scene ended - addressed Nam Joo's mom as she wanted to.

 

That's why we think she is aware. :)

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1 hour ago, brielover said:

All of this is entirely possible.  He's almost like a virus initially, that attacks the system, and when the system strikes back, he returns as a retrovirus, imitating its host (Kyung) in preparation to taking over from its host.  I'm sure no one wants to take this view of darling Haru, but the similarity is definitely there!

 

Potentially he is DO’s guardian angel.  That idea was floated a lot with DH.  And seeing HR and DH’s characters intersect, it would make sense. #13 is DO’s guardian angel hovering until she calls, protecting her even when not summoned (the staircase incident when she falls).  I feel like now that we know HR will step into the shoes of DH’s character in Secret, we need to take a look at DH more to get a handle on HR. 

 

EDIT - I think the Tree of Life has appeared in the story :lol:

 

@Jillia I wasn’t talking about HR’s awareness (as defined by the drama) as such above.  More like a character growth?  But yes he was his own individual being from the beginning.  Yes he acted as he pleased because he was pretty much just #13.  And he could act of his own free will and spoke to himself most times.  He didn’t really exist in the Secret world.  Just like angels I guess if we take that analogy.  They make appearances in our world periodically.  But when DO named him, he came into being in the ManHwa world.   It cemented his place in the comic world.  Frankly I don’t like supernatural introductions into dramas, it’s often fraught with potential inconsistencies.  But we’ll see if this is the route the writer has opted for. It kinda all fits...the stained glass windows in the beginning episode.  The fact that he just appears suddenly and the fact that he has no beginning.

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2 hours ago, Jillia said:

It's the way they have been editing the scenes with her while being on stage.

 

Like for example when Dan Oh, Kyung, Ha Ru and Do Hwa are on stage there is always a cut to them what they're thinking while their scenes play out. I can't post a gif right not but in the last two episodes we got this for Joo Da as well. Plus in the last episode she - as soon as the scene ended - addressed Nam Joo's mom as she wanted to.

 

That's why we think she is aware. :)

Thanks Jillia.  I have to say, I thought the scene with the mom was more a reveal that the character had it in for her. ( I think it would be kind of funny if the audience believed the mom was a villain and Juda the perfect angel, when the mom really is trying to protect Nam Ju from a vengeful character.  Even funnier if Juda turned out to be thirty, just playing a high school student in order to reel in Nam Ju and take his family to the cleaners. My imagination and wishful thinking - I do like twists).

 

1 hour ago, nrllee said:

 

Potentially he is DO’s guardian angel.  That idea was floated a lot with DH.  And seeing HR and DH’s characters intersect, it would make sense. #13 is DO’s guardian angel hovering until she calls, protecting her even when not summoned (the staircase incident when she falls).  I feel like now that we know HR will step into the shoes of DH’s character in Secret, we need to take a look at DH more to get a handle on HR. 

 

EDIT - I think the Tree of Life has appeared in the story :lol:

Yep, it had to figure in somewhere!

 

I take your point about Do Hwa, but I see little for Haru to pattern upon except Do Hwa gave up his love in a way that Haru evidently would not.  Moreover, Haru's trajectory is towards main lead, with Kyung's toward second, so it's Kyung we might learn something (how to give up love selflessly and gracefully?) about if he were to pattern on Do Hwa.  Maybe?

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13 minutes ago, brielover said:

Moreover, Haru's trajectory is towards main lead, with Kyung's toward second, so it's Kyung we might learn something (how to give up love selflessly and gracefully?) about if he were to pattern on Do Hwa.  Maybe?

 

Yes I like that trajectory - the ultimate in loving another. Giving them up for their better good.  I can see it playing out in TF so that could very well be where Secret is heading to as well. :D

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Aside from Do Hwa being just perfect (how hot did he look when he ran to Joo Da - that angry face! :lol:) I just have to laugh everytime he is cursing at his dreadful violin scenes on stage. Poor guy! :wub:

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I high-key want to fight the writer for hurting Ha Ru but also hurting the audience for having to watch Ha Ru being put back on stage in order to keep him away from Dan Oh. Also... how does time work in this world? Why did nobody tell Ha Ru before that Dan Oh is in hospital? Did the writer keep the characters from telling him? Thank goodness, Do Hwa was there to save the day!

 

Also the last 10 minutes up until the kiss gave me low-key anxiety. Like I was so emotional and angry for Ha Ru and Dan Oh. And how is Ha Ru going to survive should Dan Oh pass away due to her illness? 

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Ha Ru the real fox though... I always wonder if he is doing like wiping away the food from Dan Oh's lips or "accidently" touching her on purpose? :lol: :wub:

 

Find yourself a man who is looking and smiling at you like Ha Ru looks and smiles at Dan Oh. Also, who treats you very well and with respect.

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@Nymeria289

I know right? 3 more weeks and then this drama will be over. :bawling:

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Jinmichae is certainly still a mystery to me. But I hope with the sageuk portions next week some of the mystery will be resolved. :D I think it's safe to say he was in love with a woman back then and maybe their story was similar to the one for Dan Oh and Ha Ru. Meaning they weren't meant for eachother on stage but fell in love anyways. And maybe they wanted to run off, thinking they could just flee from the story. 

 

Anyways... I'm looking forward to find out his story.

 

I have to say despite Jinmichae almost villainous behavior in the beginning I finally resonate with what he is saying. He simply speak from experience most likely. Also, I totally love when he is dissing the writer. Like keep those comments coming. :lol: 

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