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[Current Mainland Chinese Drama 2018] The Story of Ming Lan 庶女明兰传 / 知否?知否?应是绿肥红瘦

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18 minutes ago, minglan1 said:

What does GTY say to QH? He doesn't seem to happy about it.Are they on opposing sides now?

 

Since MN refused to talk, ML advised GTY to release MN and follow her to see where she hide/bury Chang'er. But the woman going around the city accusing GTY of abandoning her and killing their son (I haven't seen it with subtitles so this is just me guessing). QH then brings the rumors that's been going around because of MN to the court, this causes the Emperor to yell at GTY. I think that's why GTY goes to see QH, I didn't get much from the conversation, but I think GTY tells QH that he's been targeting GTY because QH is holding grudges (I didn't want to say it before, I might be wrong, but to me it seems like QH is definitely holding grudges)

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35 minutes ago, ForgottenSoulx said:

 

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I think he died in the book due to malnutrition and trailers show GTY crying over a grave im not sure if hes dead yet but he will die.

 

 

you see it here she takes them to grave. 

 

 

 

What is being said between GTY and QH ;ooooo

Hehhehhehehheh.. This is getting deep. Omo.. Who made ML angry.. Wow I feel so sorry for GTY as a father, even if the boy is dead or not, this suffering is just coming back to back right now.. Please let the lovers live in peace 

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9 minutes ago, gleek49 said:

 

Since MN refused to talk, ML advised GTY to release MN and follow her to see where she hide/bury Chang'er. But the woman going around the city accusing GTY of abandoning her and killing their son (I haven't seen it with subtitles so this is just me guessing). QH then brings the rumors that's been going around because of MN to the court, this causes the Emperor to yell at GTY. I think that's why GTY goes to see QH, I didn't get much from the conversation, but I think GTY tells QH that he's been targeting GTY because QH is holding grudges (I didn't want to say it before, I might be wrong, but to me it seems like QH is definitely holding grudges)

Looks like this stupid MN is hell bent on ruining GTY for real and that's why I guess, the stupid step mom can use her to take revenge on ML.. Omg QH please don't fall for the rumors and don't be so hell bent on revenge too.. It's OK to hold grudges but don't turn it to a evil hatred 

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Episode 55 trailer is depressing. They found the son’s grave and MN is laughing. Did Rulan give birth to a son?What was SH arguing with ML about now?

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30 minutes ago, gleek49 said:

 

Since MN refused to talk, ML advised GTY to release MN and follow her to see where she hide/bury Chang'er. But the woman going around the city accusing GTY of abandoning her and killing their son (I haven't seen it with subtitles so this is just me guessing). QH then brings the rumors that's been going around because of MN to the court, this causes the Emperor to yell at GTY. I think that's why GTY goes to see QH, I didn't get much from the conversation, but I think GTY tells QH that he's been targeting GTY because QH is holding grudges (I didn't want to say it before, I might be wrong, but to me it seems like QH is definitely holding grudges)

Darn, at 1 ep a day, it’s going seem like it’ll be forever until we see the whole scene between QH and GTY. I don’t really see the relevance of bringing up MN rumors in court. To me that will only make QH seem petty so will wait to see the whole thing. 

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32 minutes ago, gleek49 said:

 

Since MN refused to talk, ML advised GTY to release MN and follow her to see where she hide/bury Chang'er. But the woman going around the city accusing GTY of abandoning her and killing their son (I haven't seen it with subtitles so this is just me guessing). QH then brings the rumors that's been going around because of MN to the court, this causes the Emperor to yell at GTY. I think that's why GTY goes to see QH, I didn't get much from the conversation, but I think GTY tells QH that he's been targeting GTY because QH is holding grudges (I didn't want to say it before, I might be wrong, but to me it seems like QH is definitely holding grudges)

Thank you for summary.The noble and scrupulous QH turns into a bitter spurned lover.:tears: His lack of foresight always brings trouble for ML whom he wishes a good life for.

 

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It feels like they are building up GTY's fall from his current position of power.

The issue with ED where she he courts her displeasure, the Gu cousin incident and now the Maniang issue..The relationship between him and the emperor is getting strained. :(

 

Looks lik QH is somehow involved in these incidents.I am hoping he doesn't become a pawn in the power struggle because of his anger towards GTY.

 

 

 

 

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6 hours ago, gleek49 said:

 

Since MN refused to talk, ML advised GTY to release MN and follow her to see where she hide/bury Chang'er. But the woman going around the city accusing GTY of abandoning her and killing their son (I haven't seen it with subtitles so this is just me guessing). QH then brings the rumors that's been going around because of MN to the court, this causes the Emperor to yell at GTY. I think that's why GTY goes to see QH, I didn't get much from the conversation, but I think GTY tells QH that he's been targeting GTY because QH is holding grudges (I didn't want to say it before, I might be wrong, but to me it seems like QH is definitely holding grudges)

The previews did not mention about "woman going around the city accusing GTY of abandoning her and killing their son." If you're guessing this, may be that's what she will do...we have to see tomorrow :D 

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epi 55 preview translation:

 

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As an imperial censor, QH brought accusation to imperial court to censor GTY for having unclean character, for defaming his governmental office as corrupt officer, and bringing bad name to the new imperial court.

Emperor is saying if GTY is not slapping imperial court then he is slapping his face. GTY explained that the emperor should know more about this case than others as he met and saved them while looking for his son, he told them about his son abduction by MN and emperor at that time even helped him look for the son. GTY also said he was not involved with any woman after he married his Sheng wife. Emperor then angrily said he would not be able to tell whether GTY went back and associated with MN again because of her good looks. 

According to conversation bt step-mom and her maid, the news was brought out by Empress Dowager. Step-mom said GTY is one of new emperor's trusted aides. The person is more important and valuable to the emperor, ED will dislike that person more.

GTY told QH that everyone in Bianjin knew about his former bad boy life and no one will bring about MN case to use to censor him. Since QH is very smart, he should know this and he is accusing QH of having personal interest (grudges).

 

GTY saw the son's grave and told MN that she is cursing the son to die by burning paper money since the son isn't dead yet. MN then said this is the reason you let me go to follow me to see your son.

 

RL is saying that Molan has been very virtuous as newly-wedded wife as she let her husband have 4-5 concubines after his first concubine Chunge lost the child (she had difficult birth for her first daughter for child being too big and lost the second pregnancy. I guess, Molan is the culprit). RL then said Molan's courtyard is having blissful days as new concubines all listen to Molan and Molan as newly-wed is now more impressive than ML as newly-wed (I'm pretty sure RL was being sarcastic when she said this).  ML said someone is kneeling without she is asking her to (I think it is Molan trying to kneel). Then, SH reprimanded ML that she cannot make decision in this family yet but why she is being overbearing, throwing bowls when the whole family is eating. ML then said since ancient time, no killer will stand directly in front of the person (she is saying people try to attack/ kill someone secretly not openly. Since their conversation is not complete, I do not know about whom or what they're talking about. I don't think it is about MN since they're inside Sheng's house having family lunch, MN couldn't be kneeling there and she has also gone mad).

 

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21 minutes ago, minglan1 said:

It feels like they are building up GTY's fall from his current position of power.

The issue with ED where she he courts her displeasure, the Gu cousin incident and now the Maniang issue..The relationship between him and the emperor is getting strained. :(

 

Looks lik QH is somehow involved in these incidents.I am hoping he doesn't become a pawn in the power struggle because of his anger towards GTY.

 

 

 

 

If after all this GTY still doesn't fall then the writer is making him an invisible hero really, before getting to these episodes I was wondering on how the thoughtful and clear headed GTY will be made to fall.. But seriously after knowing these will be the problem I respect him the more because it was his plead for family, his truth towards the throne, and his suffering towards his son, and his love towards his wife that was used against him.. No one can argue against righteousness but your move for rughtgeouness can be used against you.. I really I'm tired on behalf of ML and GTY on all this power struggle bullcrap that's happening 

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5 minutes ago, Golden Flower said:

I don't think the previews mentioned about "woman going around the city accusing GTY of abandoning her and killing their son." May be that's what she will do...we have to see tomorrow.

 

epi 55 preview translation (not line by line in details):

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As an imperial censor, QH brought accusation to censor GTY for not having unclean character, for defaming his governmental office as corrupt officer, and bringing bad name to the new imperial court. GTY explained to the emperor knew about this case as he met and saved him while looking for his son, he told him about his son abduction by MN and emperor at that time even helped him look for the son. Emperor then angrily said he would not be able to tell whether GTY went back and associated with MN again because of her looks. According to conversation bt step-mom and her maid, the news was brought out by Emperor Dowager. Step-mom said GTY's one of new emperor's trusted aides. The person is more important and valuable to the emperor and ED will dislike that person more. GTY told QH that everyone in Bianjin knew about him and no one will bring about MN case to use to censor him. Since QH is very smart, he should know this and he is accusing QH of having personal interest (grudges). GTY saw the son's grave and told MN that he is cursing the son to die since he isn't dead yet. MN then said this is the reason you let me go. 

RL is saying that Molan has been very virtuous as newly-wedded wife as she let her husband have 4-5 concubines after his first concubine Chunge lost the child (she had difficult birth for her first daughter for child being too big and lost the second pregnancy. I guess, Molan is the culprit). Molan as newly-wed is now more famous than ML.  ML is saying someone is kneeling without her asking. Then, SH told ML she cannot make decision in this family yet but why she is throwing things while the whole family is eating. 

 

Yes ML let them know we don't care about all those things.. Like did she even ask them to fight for popularity.. Please SH dad let her talk.. We need no concubine acceptance to be virtuous.. We have way more problems at hand 

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1 hour ago, gleek49 said:

 

Since MN refused to talk, ML advised GTY to release MN and follow her to see where she hide/bury Chang'er. But the woman going around the city accusing GTY of abandoning her and killing their son (I haven't seen it with subtitles so this is just me guessing). QH then brings the rumors that's been going around because of MN to the court, this causes the Emperor to yell at GTY. I think that's why GTY goes to see QH, I didn't get much from the conversation, but I think GTY tells QH that he's been targeting GTY because QH is holding grudges (I didn't want to say it before, I might be wrong, but to me it seems like QH is definitely holding grudges)

 

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QH officially cancelled hes on my i dont care if they die list along with MN.

 

IF QH really did that ill hate his character even more so lets hope he did not. 

 

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26 minutes ago, minglan1 said:

It feels like they are building up GTY's fall from his current position of power.

The issue with ED where she he courts her displeasure, the Gu cousin incident and now the Maniang issue..The relationship between him and the emperor is getting strained. :(

 

Looks lik QH is somehow involved in these incidents.I am hoping he doesn't become a pawn in the power struggle because of his anger towards GTY.

 

 

 

 

To me, he already unknowingly became a pawn when the Empress Dowager was the one to bring him in to do the investigation. And I think that scene where GTY and QH walked by each other in the hallway, it looked as if QH was going to the Empress Dowager’s area.  We’ll see how far they draw him into the power struggle and how he pulls himself out.

 

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32 minutes ago, minglan1 said:

It feels like they are building up GTY's fall from his current position of power.

The issue with ED where she he courts her displeasure, the Gu cousin incident and now the Maniang issue..The relationship between him and the emperor is getting strained. :(

 

Looks lik QH is somehow involved in these incidents.I am hoping he doesn't become a pawn in the power struggle because of his anger towards GTY.

 

 

 

It makes me think she might give birth while GTY is away/ 

 

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25 minutes ago, Golden Flower said:

I don't think the previews mentioned about "woman going around the city accusing GTY of abandoning her and killing their son." May be that's what she will do...we have to see tomorrow.

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epi 55 preview translation (not line by line in details):

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As an imperial censor, QH brought accusation to censor GTY for not having unclean character, for defaming his governmental office as corrupt officer, and bringing bad name to the new imperial court. GTY explained to the emperor that he knew about this case as he met and saved them while looking for his son, he told him about his son abduction by MN and emperor at that time even helped him look for the son. Emperor then angrily said he would not be able to tell whether GTY went back and associated with MN again because of her good looks. According to conversation bt step-mom and her maid, the news was brought out by Emperor Dowager. Step-mom said GTY's one of new emperor's trusted aides. The person is more important and valuable to the emperor and ED will dislike that person more. GTY told QH that everyone in Bianjin knew about him and no one will bring about MN case to use to censor him. Since QH is very smart, he should know this and he is accusing QH of having personal interest (grudges). GTY saw the son's grave and told MN that she is cursing the son to die by burning paper money since the son isn't dead yet. MN then said this is the reason you let me go to follow me. 

RL is saying that Molan has been very virtuous as newly-wedded wife as she let her husband have 4-5 concubines after his first concubine Chunge lost the child (she had difficult birth for her first daughter for child being too big and lost the second pregnancy. I guess, Molan is the culprit). Molan as newly-wed is now more famous than ML.  ML said someone is kneeling without her asking her to (I'm not sure who she is talking about). Then, SH reprimanded ML that she cannot make decision in this family yet but why she is having tantrum, throwing things while the whole family is eating. ML then said since ancient time, no killer will stand directly in front of the person (I guess she is saying people try to attack/ kill someone secretly. Since their conversation is not complete, I do not know about whom or what they're talking about. I don't think it is about MN since they're inside Sheng's house having family lunch).

 

 

ML tone at the end sounds like shes really annoyed sounded quite aggressive to me. 

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5 hours ago, ForgottenSoulx said:

 

ML tone at the end sounds like shes really annoyed sounded quite aggressive to me. 

Well...I bet!  In my previous post, I translated "she was reprimanded by SH since she has thrown bowls in front of him and other family members (may be grandma also there though didn't show her when SH was talking) during family lunch". It wasn't shown but SH mentioned that ML was overbearing and has thrown things.

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8 minutes ago, ForgottenSoulx said:

 

ML tone at the end sounds like shes really annoyed sounded quite aggressive to me. 

Yeah they might have been talking about GTY or they might have been poking her about the stupid Molan and her husband being so cooperative richard simmons.. And she just wasn't having it because there are much trouble at hand than their despicable hypocrisy.. So she just gave it to them at once :smirk:

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1 minute ago, Golden Flower said:

Well...I bet, I said she was reprimanded since she has thrown things (may be teacup) in front of her father (may be grandma there though didn't show her when SH was talking) during family lunch. 

 

I didnt see anything being thrown or what was that what was said. The last word of that trailer ML tone does sound likes shes being aggressive towards SH right? I hope shes finally standing up to SH. 

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Yeah they might have been talking about GTY or they might have been poking her about the stupid Molan and her husband being so cooperative richard simmons.. And she just wasn't having it because there are much trouble at hand than their despicable hypocrisy.. So she just gave it to them at once :smirk:

 

Its about time ;p 

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47 minutes ago, Golden Flower said:

The previews did not mention about "woman going around the city accusing GTY of abandoning her and killing their son." If you're guessing this, may be that's what she will do...we have to see tomorrow :D 

 

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epi 55 preview translation (line by line but not in details):

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As an imperial censor, QH brought accusation to censor GTY for having unclean character, for defaming his governmental office as corrupt officer, and bringing bad name to the new imperial court. GTY explained to the emperor that he knew about this case as he met and saved them while looking for his son, he told him about his son abduction by MN and emperor at that time even helped him look for the son. Emperor then angrily said he would not be able to tell whether GTY went back and associated with MN again because of her good looks. According to conversation bt step-mom and her maid, the news was brought out by Emperor Dowager. Step-mom said GTY is one of new emperor's trusted aides. The person is more important and valuable to the emperor and ED will dislike that person more. GTY told QH that everyone in Bianjin knew about him and no one will bring about MN case to use to censor him. Since QH is very smart, he should know this and he is accusing QH of having personal interest (grudges). GTY saw the son's grave and told MN that she is cursing the son to die by burning paper money since the son isn't dead yet. MN then said this is the reason you let me go to follow me. 

RL is saying that Molan has been very virtuous as newly-wedded wife as she let her husband have 4-5 concubines after his first concubine Chunge lost the child (she had difficult birth for her first daughter for child being too big and lost the second pregnancy. I guess, Molan is the culprit). Molan as newly-wed is now more famous than ML (I'm pretty sure RL was being sarcastic when she said this).  ML said someone is kneeling without her asking her to (I'm not sure who she is talking about). Then, SH reprimanded ML that she cannot make decision in this family yet but why she is having tantrum, throwing things while the whole family is eating. ML then said since ancient time, no killer will stand directly in front of the person (I guess she is saying people try to attack/ kill someone secretly. Since their conversation is not complete, I do not know about whom or what they're talking about. I don't think it is about MN since they're inside Sheng's house having family lunch, MN couldn't be kneeling there and MN already gone mad).

 

Do you think ML is upset because she realizes that Molan is using the same tactic as her Mom to get rid of the babies of her husband's concubines ? This is the first time she seems to talk loudly and have a back bone inside the Sheng family, especially against her father.

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5 hours ago, paras said:

Do you think ML is upset because she realizes that Molan is using the same tactic as her Mom to get rid of the babies of her husband's concubines ? This is the first time she seems to talk loudly and have a back bone inside the Sheng family, especially against her father.

I actually rewatched the trailer and fixed my translation after you posted. It seems to me Molan was trying to kneel but her husband prevented her or she sat back down after SH pulled her up from kneeling. I'm not sure she is trying to kneel to beg ML something or ML brought up about CL causing ML's mom death. (Molan's husband didn't look that upset though he look uncomfortable. So, I'm not sure whether ML directly accused Molan causing foils for her husband's concubine or not (?)) Then, may be ML get angry due to Molan's usual tactics of crying/ kneeling and ML started throwing bowls? (just a guess...conversation is too brief and pretty sure cut in between, very difficult to make out).

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5 hours ago, Suzzy San said:

Seriously from what everyone has been saying, you said it all.. ML is at this point just keeping receipts of the goodness she is receiving which thinking about it, it's so stressful.. To ML now, it's not about not trusting him, it's more about bot doing the best fro him.. They are so funny, on one hand GTY is thinking that he must shower her with more love, on the other hand ML is thinking of how to live upto his expectations that she has now try to make herself a perfect woman trying to make sure there is no fault in her.. So that explains how she doesn't want to show her jealousy or her insecure side because that is like having flaws, which is what GTY wants but ML thinks he just wants her to be perfect.. So funny where their misunderstanding lies.. I need their arguments noooowwww

I think by now ML knows pretty well what GTY wants, she is just reluctant to give it to him since she knows it would be her weakness once things go wrong.

 

Ep 48: GTY's brother said that GTY was avoiding his question. I think it's true. What do you guys think?

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