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  1. So the ending is officially out. All the good guys get happy endings, About the villains, some are satisfying, some are not. Stepmom's death, great, but why the hell let her destroy Gu family's shrine? She was dying yet had to cause some more damage? And GTY's 3rd brother's acting is so fake (or maybe it's the voiceover's fault) but it really put me off mood. ED, well I understand she's the Emperor's official mother so the Emperor just couldn't do anything about her. I've read quite a few novels and the worse outcome is just being detained for life. But why is the Emperor still so sentimental about her? She tried to kill him, his comrades, and started a rebellion against him. Get a grip man, you're too old for mother-complex already. And Molan. Like, I get it, she is still welcomed back to the house. But how can they be so casual with her? She freed the woman who tried to kill her own Grandmother, and they just let it pass like that? Are all these people Saints or something? On the other hand, all our beloved characters are doing great. ML and GTY, QH and his wife and the whole Sheng family. TSoML's ending is fulfilled. Thank God Hunan TV didn't pull up any other trick.
  2. So has anyone heard about the scandal that Hunan TV created with the last episode? Well Hunan TV has always been notorious for tampering with dramas they broadcast. So they had quite a difficult time last year. They poured their money on many blockbusters but they all eventually failed, until TSoML. TSoML is doing too good, so they tried to squeeze some more value out of it by extending it another few more episodes (not in the original director's cut), making it unnecessarily long and tiring. Now to the last episode they decided to divide it into 2 parts, broadcasting in 2 days. They first aired TSoML's half episode, then they proceeded to air their new drama instead of the later half to push the rating of their new drama. All viewers just kept watching cuz they thought it was the commercials and they were expecting the ending. So that new drama actually has extremely high starting rating but angers everyone. Now there goes the new drama's favoritism along with Hunan TV's reputation.
  3. Is it a little disappointing that the Zi Yuan Ruo doesn't have a nice meaning. Zi are chosen later in life so shouldn't it be picked carefully?
  4. What I'm really pissed off in recent episodes is WHY GTY NOT TIED UP LOOSE ENDS? I mean he has so many, so many weaknesses and he just left them hanging. Hasn't he ever thought that his enemies would use them against him? Why didn't he keep written evidences? Why left MN alive when she's proven to be able to cause quite a damage? And the whole thing with Bai family. He kept no evidences. At least if he thought things carefully and keep some of his enemies' weaknesses in his hands then there'll be less things against him now. They are his enemies. Shouldn't he keep check on them and have some kind of leverage? Didn't he know once he lose his ground all of them will come barking like dogs? @Golden Flower I don't know that many details but I heard the imperial court can suspend a Marquis/Count's proposal for an heir so I guess at least an Emperor could drag time before choosing someone he sees fit to bear the title. I mean the Emperor doesn't say to withdraw their title so he at least have that much authority, right? I think unless they are royalty, noble families pay for expenses themselves by income they get from real estate and shops like normal families. Who pays the expenses depends on who's managing Gu family's asset, Stepmom or ML, like how they are usually paid before. If family asset has been divided then they each pay for their own. About tax I'm I'm not sure, I guess they don't have to pay since they are still noble. Stepmom and GTY's brother's wife still have their noble women titles, since they were bestowed on them due to their husbands, not GTY, so they retain full rights as noble women. But it may not be historically accurate since I got my knowledge from novels. But technically the Emperor can do anything since he has absolute power. It's just how far he can abuse it before being considered a tyrant. Dragging some noble title is pretty much within boundaries.
  5. I don't always care about historical facts in drama, it depends on which type of drama I'm watching. For example if it's some kind of comedy or action or sci-fi period drama then it doesn't matter (like Eternal Love or Princess Agent or Ten miles of peach blossoms), but TSoML is good bc it depicts the realistic life of women in the Song dynasty, so of course I want to know if it's doing it right. I really doesn't have to be very accurate, but if at least it shouldn't feel absurd. Even if it didn't follow history, if the plot was consistent then it would feel more real and relatable. Even if not comparing it to the book, the drama has started to lose its touch in the later one-third. None of the females in this drama have Zi, so I guess it's not common for females? Or females don't have Zi in Song dynasty but they do in a different period?
  6. I agree with @Golden Flower the Emperor can't just take away the Marquis title. There are 2 types of noble title in feudal China: the non-inheritable ones (given to minor contributors) and inheritable ones (given to major contribution to the country). In heritable ones, those that were bestowed for people helping in establishing the dynasty are the most prestigious (like Gu family) and can't be ripped off bc some descendant committed a crime. The current emperor can only take away titles that he bestows himself (for those with major contribution in his time). Titles that were bestowed by previous Emperors can only be recalled under the crime of treason or similar level. However what he can do is leaving the title hanging, meaning he drags the time needed to make a decision on the heir. This dragging time can be months or years depending on his Majesty's preference. During this time, Stepmom's title is unchanged since she's still the previous Marquis's wife, and they can still keep their residence. But they will lose many privileges since women can only socialize in a small circle and no men in the house have noble title, so they can't socialize with other noble men. The role of men in families is very important. Even with the Marquis name, if no men in the house have the Marquis title then their status will drop drastically.
  7. Technically the Emperor can rip someone off their title and give it to his relative if the one holding the title proves undeserving of it. The title was bestowed on GTY's ancestors and is inherited by their descendants, it doesn't have to be GTY, he is just someone in line, it can be passed to the next person in line, which is his brother, or even his cousins. And by the law if GTY has been ripped off his title, his son is no longer eligible to inherit it. I agree, there is so much scheming going on at the same time and some doesn't even make sense. It's dragging the drama too long and it feels tiresome to watch recent episodes.
  8. Actually there are 2 types of exiling that can be used in feudal times: - Literary exiling: meaning an official/citizen is convicted of a crime, he will be escorted to a snowy northern bordering area to do hard labor. - Metaphorical exiling: meaning when an official lose the Emperor's favor, he will be demoted to a bottom-level official and sent off to a faraway poor rural place with no prospects of promotion. I thought this is what happened to QH since I remember in the novel he also worked for a period of time as a local official. But it seems I misunderstood. He just got demoted. I realized it when QH appeared again in the drama but too lazy to edit my previous posts.
  9. Characters like Molan and Aunti Kang are detestable, but I'm more angry at their parents, mothers who destroy their daughters' lives in the name of love and the near non-existent father roles. It makes me wonder how they would change if they had been raised and loved by someone similar to Grandma, or how ML would turn out if she hadn't grow up beside her. Many villains in this drama are just products of the era, how a distorted social system traps and drives people crazy. It's a system that can enlarge the darkness in human hearts and those with weak resolve and faulty moral compass will succumb to jealousy and greed. I hate them and at the same time pity them.
  10. I'm not sure but based on my knowledge on historical practices, unless her father openly disowns her (which he won't do cuz it will stir up a public scandal), he has to take her back. Not only that, to avoid public eye the divorce will be done as quiet as possible. What he does to her after that though, is behind closed doors. It can either be being grounded or exiled for life. Or he can give a signal to her husband to kill her off in silence (I don't think he would do that but possible). All and all, they will deal with it underground. These are 2 methods that are usually used in this kind of situation if both parties are smart. Another stupid method is that the husband kicks her out while the father refuses to take her back. Letting her loose is usually the root to another trouble.
  11. Technically it's not a crime but it's not encouraged, reasons are: 1. The most prioritized mission of a man is to produce an heir. Back when filial piety is the guideline for everyone's actions, not having an heir is considered the biggest offense. And taking into account the medical condition of the time, the stake of a child not making it into adulthood is high, so men from noble families would have the responsibility to produce as many sons as possible, and that couldn't be done with just one woman. So elders usually use this excuse to shove women into their juniors' houses, sometimes for political causes. 2. In feudal times China, people tend to blame the woman for a man's misbehavior. For example if a man only has one woman, then his wife would be accused of jealousy, wicked, overpowering her man. These are very negative traits when judging a woman, which will put a lot of pressure on the couple. His peers will mock him (scared of your wife etc) and at some point they will break. Also in a marriage, having concubines is a method the husband (or his family/elders) uses to establish power over the wife and her family. This method is totally legit and not considered underhanded at all. 3. Sometimes lowborn women are considered as gifts or bestowals (for men with playboy personality this actually has positive meaning). Rejecting them is considered rude and make the giver lose face. So sometimes a person from a higher status could use this excuse to plant a spy or to serve other purposes. Again, it's not considered underhanded method. This is very interesting because it can be used in various ways (mostly by royals bc most of the time people cannot refuse their bestowals). Depends on the quality and status of the gift it can be considered as a symbol of fondness, a punishment or a shame to either the husband or the wife.
  12. @m0us3y In the drama there are more interactions between ML and GTY, but in the book he also observed her for a long time before choosing her as his bride and the schemes to get her are similar. The main element of the arguments remain unchanged but in the book it was executed with intensity and it marked a milestone in their relationship. @dito has stated quite clearly I just wanted to add some details. The first argument happened in a similar situation as in the drama, except there were just 2 of them sitting in a closed room. ML pointed out for him while he, as a noble and a man, had little at stake why she, as a lowborn woman, would lose everything once she fell out of his favor and without reputations. It's the same as a conversation she had before about her and QH in the drama, which states that a small amount of value to QH may mean everything to her. This can also apply with GTY. She then cried silently, saying she was indeed selfish, bc she could never put everything on the line for a man's love. GTY then understood how hard it is on her and moved back to sleep with her, never spoke about that again. The second argument happened in a different situation since they changed the sequence of event in the drama. In the book the delivery of her first child took place first, then the poison of Grandma. When GTY was away and ML was near labor, Stepmom plot plans against her, first by having Aunti Kang sending a concubine, which failed. After that she seeked out Manniang (the son was still alive). One thing after another and MN tried to assassinate ML but failed then the fire. GTY, after a while of consideration, decided to exile MN and warned Stepmom by killing the son of her right-hand-woman, which ML agreed to. Later when Daniang's maid was spying on the house (same as drama), Grandma got furious and scolded Daniang, which then lead to the poison case. Later when GTY arrived at the scene (this is similar to drama), he was so surprised seeing ML, who was usually so calm and reserved, lost it in rage. She did so many things that she shouldn't have done, like locking the house down, torturing the maids and threatening her father. She could have thought of a safer method to handle the matter. She then told GTY, Grandma needn't have to stressed things out with Daniang. The maid was actually a really small problem and it could be handled without causing a ruckfuss with Daniang. But bc Grandma cared about her too much that she didn't think it straight. Grandma was a wise lady and she should have known the best way to handle the problem, but when ML was being targeted all of her wisdom went down the drain and she would rush at anyone who tried to harm her. ML said when people cared too much they made mistake. GTY, on the other hand, was very clever and careful in dealing with the incident with ML. All of his aftermath solutions were calculated carefully to take out their enemies in the future. ML admitted that what he did would benefit them most. But if he truly cared for her than he wouldn't think it that clearly. ML asked him why he didn't burst out in rage, if he were to risk everything just to avenge her even knowing she was safe in the end. The proof of love wasn't how many right things he did for her, but how many stupid mistakes he would be willing to commit for her. GTY stayed silent and could not reply. In the end ML said let's just continue like this, she would be a proper wife and mother. GTY then watch her fall asleep without saying a word. The beauty of these arguments is that it struck really hard into GTY's heart (and also the readers'). It pushed GTY into a realization of how wrong he was in viewing their relationship, how demanding he was of her and how his smart and cunning methods that he was proud of was backfiring at him. He realized that while he was criticizing her of holding back her emotions, he was also wearing a thick armor to protect himself and that there were no shortcuts nor bargaining in love. @Golden Flower QH was just a side character in the book so I didn't expect him to have that much screen time, although ZYL's potrayal was marvelous. It was the character of ML I was worried about. In the book even GTY doesn't appear much and ML is the main focus throughout the story. She was smart, rational and very insightful. She is a special woman, some of her words are intense and heavy and they carry her mature thoughts on love and life. I thought ZLY's acting was not enough to play such a character. Well they changed the plot a bit and turn ML livelier, more suitable for ZLY. I understand a 15-ish soul is incomparable to a 36-ish soul, but it's rather sad since the character lost part of its depth and impact.
  13. Yeah I really don't know what's going on in the Chinese TV industry. They're wasting so many great source materials. In the past few years I have seen many of my favourite books get turned into crappy dramas it's driving me nuts.
  14. Yeah I think they put all their resources this year into "Like a flowing river", they didn't even have their A-team in this project. All the pre-producion like settings and clothes look cheap too. Daylight had many great dramas a few years ago, like NiF, the disguiser, Ode to joy but recently it's quality is going down. It's still good but not as outstanding as before, except for maybe Like a flowing river, but that series isn't popular to foreign viewers. I wonder why Chinese drama producers don't consult the original authors on the screenplays. I see normally dramas which have the original authors as screenwriters and stay true to the original book are more likely to be successful. They bought popular books to adapt bc those books already have massive fanbases and they want to attract their readers, but then they decide to mess things up? What a waste!
  15. I don't mind a few flaws but when it's such an obvious plot hole then it's irritating to watch. This drama is actually better than the majority, but it is how it's supposed to be. I rarely watch C drama in the past few years, cuz the quality's been going down, nonsense script writing, crappy idol actors, lousy productions etc. Most big IPs spend a fortune on popular idols, inducing cliche protagonists, trying to squeeze money from female audiences. I normally only watch a drama when it's over with good reviews. Especially with ZLY, her recent dramas all started well but ended up like richard simmons. However I decided to follow TSoML from the beginning bc of 2 reasons: 1. I really like the original novel 2. I have trust in Daylight Entertainment. If you don't know Daylight Entertainment has quite a reputation in drama land recently. Most of their products have really high quality, like NiF, Battle of Changsha, Ode of joy... (I watch all of them). They always put careful preparation and great effort in their production, and they reuse most of their supporting actors (which I like). That's why I have high hopes for this drama and willing to take the risk before the final scene is out, although I was a little worried about the main cast. None of the main leads are recognized for their acting abilities and Daylight Entertainment is known for not working with idol actors. However, TSoML is a big IP and I assume they know what they are doing. The drama turns out fine, I mean it's fun watching but it doesn't live up to my expectations. The acting is average. There are a few moments of outstanding performances but most of the time it's average. The supporting roles are great though. But there 2 things that they disappointed me. First is the script-writing. I understand they had to change the plot here and there to fit the drama, but they should pay attention to the logic. This is not some lousy cheap production. This is Daylight Entertainment's second biggest drama of the year. It shouldn't make me think "Hey this doesn't make any sense". They had a really good source material at hand and they should have utilized it better. Second is the drama completely screwed up my 2 most awaiting scene: GTY and ML's 2 arguments. These 2 scenes in the book were so impressive and they were like, the roots, the foundation of their relationship so I was so excited to see it on screen. I'm so sorry to say none of them lived up to the hype.
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