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  1. A year ago, I have no idea who Zhao Li Ying is. Came to cdramas after the slump in kdramas, bumping into Princess Agent due to those rave reviews. Introduction to ZLY was to cool and ferocious, yet rather depressed Xing'er/ Chu Qiao. A fighter for freedom, who doesn't put her own life or happiness on forefront. Although some of her actions were frustrating, I could understand her intentions. Love was never the main driving force in her life, as she strives for freedom and dream, of a place free of slavery. Whilst I thought her acting was solid, her character was rather depressed and serious... Which brought me to Boss and Me (Shan Shan comes to eat). A total change! Her character here is simple, bubbly, and cute! She stands by her own beliefs and principles, but never truly ambitious, and is a totally happy go lucky girl from the village! She made it huge in The Journey of Flower, and after watching, I could understand why... Her portrayal as the young innocent HQG, her journey to her doomed love, the pain of her losing everyone dear to her one by one, finally turning into demon...I was sold. She got my attention then, not for playing Shan Shan, Hua Qian Gu or Chu Qiao, but actually capable of playing 2 end of the spectrums flawlessly. As someone who fought for everything but love as CQ, and as someone who wanted nothing but love in HQG. Then she amazes yet again with guest starring in Mystic Nine with her comical side, dominating pretty much all the scenes she was in. Just as I thought I have seen her in every type of character, she raised the bar again with her versatility, playing subtle ,calm, collected, subdued Sheng Ming Lan in The Story of Minglan. While some felt her portrayal as ML was underwhelming compared to other characters, I felt there was a quiet determination, subtle confidence about her. Her perceptiveness, astuteness was a delight to watch. She exudes charisma yet maintained the innocence of a young lady. The change from a self preserving young maiden to a woman, learning to navigate around the treacherous world, learning to love her husband, to a mature Marchioness was a delight to watch. Personally, I felt she did well in picking her latest project before taking a break from her work. It ended her first stint of her career on a high. Hopefully she'll be back soon from her break and new baby!! Looking forward to see her back in action!
  2. @nichiwoohee translation: "Despite seeing and understanding the ugly side of people, still believes in the kind nature of the human heart. After going through and witnessing life and death situations, hopes for quiet and peaceful life, with all family members well. Tonight, Ming Lan will be watching the last episode with you"
  3. What a journey! Every artiste played their character so well, from our beloved ML & GTY, to our second leads QH & WIFE, everyone from Sheng Family (Beloved granny, SH, DaNiang, RL, HL, CB, Molan), Shitou & XiaoTao, Rong'er, Danju, Mdm Zhang, even DaNiang's maidservant, to our protagonists, Mdm Qin, Aunty Kang, Aunty Wang, even MN. Relationships and love goes beyond our OTP of ML - GTY. Granny - ML, GTY- Shitou, ML - XiaoTao & Danju, Rong'er - ML & GTY, CB - GTY, ML - Mdm Zhang, QH - wife were all very heartwarming and lovely to watch. I've laughed at GTY's antics, CB's hilarious actions, DaNiang's amusing expressions; I've cried with ML over the mum's passing, granny's poisoning, and finally in her desperate attempt to save GTY, cried with Rong'er to witness the death of her own mum, and when she finally called ML "mum"; I've smiled at the sweetness and little intimate moments between ML - GTY. Loved both the explosive GTY, and the more subtle, quiet and subdued ML; full of wisdom granny, straightforward RL, and comical DaNiang & CB. Cheered when those that ML extended help to came back to show support, friendship, and loyalty from Mdm Zhang, Yanran, the Sheng's couz, Danju. Really liked the friendship formed btw ML and QH's wife under the most unlikely circumstances It has its flaws and shortcomings, but pulled enough heartstrings, and gave enough hope to keep me going. It's a relatively "quiet" slice of life family drama, and I've enjoyed the subtleties of things, appreciated the suffering & limitations for women during the era, and loved the various relationships, that goes beyond blood and family. It's not a perfect show, but definitely worth every minute of the time watching (and re-watching). It's been a great 1.5 months watching TSOML; reading & discussing the difference thoughts, perspectives, insights and analysis of the show and characters, sharing of spoilers, previews and bts, historical facts, and translations. Thank you @cherubstomato @linhlinh111 @Golden Flower @nichiwoohee @dancingbee @lclarakl @Suzzy San @frenchfan @dito@minglan1@mooose @minoku2209 @leeza77 @jewelsc @hello210 @matrim @zenya22 @Jackie1048 @sava2sava @heatherbee @greenwatch08 @UnniSarah @lilkat75 @fra8
  4. I haven't actually watched the recent episodes (still waiting for subs ) so I'm deducing based on the earlier episodes and analysis. Whilst I do feel that ML having to go through another hell, and a world of pain trying to free GTY doesn't do much justice especially to GTY's character to still kept her in the dark, there's an explanation I could think of. In earlier post by @dito and @linhlinh111, it was mentioned that in the book, during their 2nd big argument, ML said that love is not measured by the intelligent things, but by stupid illogical actions one does for the other. Possibly, this is the show's way to demonstrate her love. May not necessarily agree with the way the scriptwriters do it, but I could understand. Personally, the way things are going, it seems like scriptwriters wanted to end the show with a bang. Bringing everyone back for the finale basically. If CL is not dead, I'm pretty sure they will bring her back into the scene too. Another pity, considering the show did extremely well in subtlety. Excelled in being quietly powerful. However, I can understand why ED wants ML dead (based on my 21st century lense if I may add). The biggest threat in ML for ED isn't her status, her power, her family background, or her wealth. Her biggest threat, and ML's biggest asset lies in her wit and intelligence. They can take her title away, her wealth and everything away but they can't take away her brain. And that's why ED wants her dead. Because she knows ML isn't on her side, and will never be. ML's a strategist, with or without GTY, she's capable of things that ED couldn't think of. Together, ML-GTY combo is lethal, but even apart, they are dangerous on their own.
  5. I wouldn't disagree. Show did well for flash out her character and what drives her character. (Actually, show did well with most characters, incl the antagonists). Gives us enough meat to understand her behaviour, her convictions, and her beliefs. I cried with her when her mom passed. Suffocated for her as she hides her true nature for self preservation Loved her heartfelt and mature conversations with granny. Felt for her when she confessed to GTY that she has to choose survival over principles, living as the gentle, agreeable, flawless sixth miss. Loved it even more, the honest, sincere conversations with GTY, both before the romance, and after their marriage. Laughed at her non-existent archery skills and seeing her battle the fatty bandit, and then tried to pick up his sword (unsuccessfully) to protect herself. My blood boils with her as we found out CL did exactly opposite of what the doc said to kill ML's mom. Smiled like an idiot when she finally accepted GTY's proposal, and everytime they show affection to each other. Laughed more when she was throwing her mini tantrum after the aunts tried to blackmail her with Dr.He, and that death glare she gave GTY when he tried to pacify her. My heart broke with hers to see granny in coma from poisoning I'm amazed at how calm and collected she is when she carried out her revenge, both against CL and Mdm Kang. I cheered for her everytime she outwit and outsmart those who looked down on her, those who underestimated her. Felt her sadness as she cried in GTY's arm, blaming herself for granny's predicament, getting poisoned. Felt her trauma with finding out that her GTY died (false alarm), goes into premature labour, manor being set on fire, and the attempt on her life all at the same time. And now...anticipating more heartbreak, more pain, more suffering before she comes out sharper, stronger, better, cooler , and more bad richard simmons. I buy her convictions to fight for her own justice because she lives in an era what wouldn't give her one. I'm sold on her principles of repayment. She will repay with her life for all that she owed, and she ensures they pay with theirs for all they owed.. Even with the writing flaws and dramatization, the story stayed true to its title "The Story of Ming Lan"... And personally, it's been a rewarding journey.
  6. Personally I do feel that grandma has been guiding her to a certain extent. We all have our own belief system in a way, but to discount influences of others would be arrogant. It's easy for us to say that the antagonists are just evil, but in reality, how many are truly born evil just because? Daniang is simple minded, and not the smartest cookie of the lot, but even ML said she can see how HL, RL and CB turned out the way they did. Because she does nurture them well. She may have temper, but she's not vicious. She's rather kind in nature, which was why granny chose her as SH's wife. That even if you give her a knife, it would never occur to her to use that knife in her hands to kill another. And that's why none of her kids are vicious or have ill intentions. There are a lot of times we were shown grandma and ML discussing over things and her thoughts and reasoning on them. ML may have hide some facts and truths from granny like we do from our parents, but it would be unfair to say our parents have no hands in shaping us to be the way we are, the same way granny shaped ML to be who she is. Whilst we do have our own belief system which were innate as part of us, there are also influences, circumstances and people that shape a person to who they are.. Just my 2 cents.
  7. Exactly! As she rightly said, when the pain is on others it's easy to be generous and sympathetic, but when the pain is on self, all compassion goes out the window. She didn't even flinch when she torture Mdm Kang's people for confession. And the way she had her revenge of CL, cold. Can u imagine if what she's capable of, with her intelligence, and her astuteness, if she didn't have granny as her moral compass? Show did exceptionally showing that no one is saint. No one is all forgiving, because they are only human. Flawed. They bear grudges, they give an eye for an eye. No one waits for karma to do their job...
  8. Thanks for the explanation @Golden Flower @leeza77 I can't say I'm impressed with his behaviour, be it gleeful or happy, as it just doesn't sound right to be happy when his wife is down on her knees begging and crying, but it could be because he doesn't know and realised that she went to that extent.. only knows she created a ruckus.. I haven't actually watch the episodes, just previews and comments from fellow chingus in this thread. So I'll refrain from commenting further until I've watched.. so that I wouldn't jump into conclusion and judge too quickly. @lclarakl welcome. Did you sleep considering you had to catch up 67 episodes?? @linhlinh111 well said. I've always wondered how dangerous ML would be if she wasn't brought up by granny who taught her not just skills to survive, but also principles and morals in life. Considering her intelligence, she could be one helluva antagonist! So I do agree that parents have a major part to play in shaping their children, and have a role to play for their success and failure. Era, circumstances, upbringing, ingrained personality, all have a part to play in how each person turns out. The best part of the show is exactly that...that while some antagonists are despicable, they are also pitiful.
  9. I hope you are right...hence I added that I'm hoping I'm interpreting the previews wrongly and there is more to it. GTY should be grateful that he has such a wife, that someone is willing to do everything for him, and love him unconditionally, for better or worse, through good times and bad. But being grateful also means that he would be sad to see her suffering so much for him..which is why I said being HAPPY is just wrong... For someone who wouldn't allow anyone to hurt her, being happy seeing her suffer so much because of him is....not cool...at all.. Him putting a brave front for her so that she doesn't crumble seeing him fall, would be consistent with his character...so I hope you are right...
  10. Me too!! I've been following the show religiously for the past 1.5 months and it has been such an enjoyable ride I don't want this to enddd! Hahahah. So it's actually FSF wearing ZLY's clothes and not the other way around! That's cute! I reckon she looks cute in the oversized coat too since she's so small!
  11. So we have ML who just came back from her trip to hell, still recovering from childbirth, doing everything within her means to save GTY, going to the Shen's, going to Empress, putting everything on the line, literally begging the Empress, fainting outside trying to seek justice (as seen in the trailer), crying in silence, all the pain and agony, the heartbreak.... And GTY is HAPPY?? I might be in the minority, and I'm hoping (badly) that there is more to it...but I'm not impressed. It's just wrong...on so many levels...
  12. Honestly if it's a test, I might come to despise the character. I'm sure it's pretty evident in recent episodes that she loves him, a lot. When she hugged him and cried after her childbirth, she literally told him that her heart shattered cuz she thought he died... To put her through all the pain and agony just for a test, pushed it a tad bit too far for me. Hence I'm hoping it's more than just a test. It's a bit more consistent with his character, for he has always been holding grudge at whoever that hurt her, and to do that himself seems out of character.... The distance she goes for him...only to have a test..hmm... Either way, we are in for a roller coaster ride!
  13. There seems to be a lot of speculation in terms of what GTY knows and what he doesn't. And what the Emperor really knows.. The previews may also be rather misleading. Even if this is all part of GTY's plan to weed out ED's supporter, I do believe there were elements that caught him by surprise. Ie MN to come back, for one, would not be in his plans since MN really has little interest in the fight btw Emperor and ED. Reckon it's safe to take that it's part planned, part unplanned. And the stakes have gotten so high for him to let ML go. Show has established that he would protect her no matter what, but also established that he truly loves her, and isn't one who would propose for separation just to test her. I don't know. It feels the matter is too serious to be a test. He has always been able to wager it all for her, so it has to be bigger than anything for him to propose that. Now I just need to brace for impact... Everyone seems to want to have a piece of our power couple, everyone wants to contribute to their downfall. I'm sure they will rise from the ashes, but first, we need to see them getting burned...
  14. Hahahahaha. Did he reveal the answer @leeza77? What's truly sad was that he had a few opportunities before. When the Momo from palace came and gave them all "the lesson", SH was aware, and he took a step forward to reconcile and reconnect with ML, only to take 3 steps back right after when something more "urgent" called for him. When Molan asked for CL to be moved to the temple, and ML fought tooth and nail against it, having her first outburst since the mum's death.. When she finally asked (subsequently demanded) for grandma to be given justice over her poisoning, she was at the last straw... That slap from SH sealed it... That he has chosen to turn a blind eye and stay muddled for reputation.. But to have ML saying it as they are, to his face, his facade, pretenses, could no longer hold, the facade fading away.
  15. Looking at the preview, it doesn't seem like Aunt Kang's death is the single reason for GTY's imprisonment. It seems more like the trigger, and everyone else just adds their accusations on top of it. In short, it seems to have made it look like GTY misused his power and status to bully the weak and hopeless. With his existing reputation of rebellious, domineering, unfilial child, with horrible temper, and uncontrollable, it's not that hard to make him look like he's the biggest jerk/bully in capital with too much power in his hands. May not be true, but certainly plausible with his reputation.
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