[Drama 2017] Criminal Minds 크리미널 마인드

[violina]

1 hour ago, goldenmoon said:

Are they really T & J or they are trying put flirting little bit?!And what is it most of the time they have color coordinated clothes!!!

My soompi is behaving funny so Il just bring out some of the quotes and then comment:

Quoting: @LyraYoo said: With the same agency I bet they have the same stylist. No romance but you can't zero out chemistry.  

Quoting: @sakura2016 said:  I keep reminding myself that there is no romance in the drama but really how not to ship them?!!  

Quoting: @zi4r said: Cry with me, chingu. Cuz as far as I saw, there was no flirtation, no bickering (nothing fun anyway), no worrying for one another (except for one "Sun-woo-ssi!" exclamation outta HJ). Quite a few T&J moments, but there was no sunshine & flowers like in our day-dreams. How could they do this to me? WAE?!!! And why the heck did I daydream about that?!!!

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Now my comment well (not really) but since I do like gif making and gif collecting. So I visit tumblr alot.While I was surfing around and making my gifs, I saw these two blog entries which I think best summaries our thoughts here about this:

This was the comment about our resident "Tom and Jerry" after ep 1 and ep 2:

1a. So i know they said in the press conference that there would be no romance, but the more i think about it, the more i feel like it’s an absolutely wasted opportunity for a romance(not that they need to throw in a loveline in this drama, lest the critics come swimming in with their whining) built on stronger foundations than you usually get with police dramas, as well as with characters that have an almost unique dynamic. (not to mention LJG and MCW total chemistry on screen!)I loved the scene where he was hitting the wall in frustration, and she was just like ‘this isn’t helping’ - he’s hot headed, and she doesn’t give a crap.Whilst they’re not bffs from the second they meet, they’re actually quite respectful to each other. and believe it or not its pretty shocking that he never interjects while she’s speaking and waits for her to finish even when she’s repeating information he already has.There is no ‘i work alone’ on either side - and minus the scene where he initially rejects her car ride, they help each other out and team up without question.

Furthermore, there is no ‘you’re an nuisance’ either. Even when she’s injured, he offers to drop her off at the hospital but at no point makes a comment about her getting in the way - which is something she mentions happened to her as a cop and also happens with the team leader later in the episode.They’re also not indifferent to each other - and things like him asking if she’s okay, make a significant difference to what i usually see in the first 2 episodes of cop dramas.female characters in  cop dramas are usually: villains, mediocre at their jobs but are sweet and try super hard!, or not even cops - so for Sun Woo to actually be good at her job is also pretty great tbh because her dynamic with Hyun Joon is as his equal as opposed to someone who relies on his help every step of the way.They both have their own emotional baggage, and therefore are given an equal amount of depth to their characters - which is also kinda rare in dramas.Two episodes in and they’ve already had deeper conversations and gotten to know each other better than some kdrama couples do midway. So in summary:

TvN: *creates a ship with respect and no power imbalance*

TvN:  *uses two strong actors with very good chemistry*

TvN: *develops said character’s relationship more in the first 2 episodes than some couples get in half the drama*

TvN: *doesn’t use any of the annoying male cop/female cop tropes*(male character is an ace/female character is sucks at her job)

TvN: *shows tension in views between the characters without either of them being outrightly rude to each other*

TvN: haha by the way its not going to be romantic :)

Good Job at trolling TVN Really Good Job!!!Bring on the juice, I am loving it.

Credit to user:@lavenderbyun on tumblr for her insight.

 

 

[glassnokamen]

Full recap of episode 4  (... I know that we have  just seen the episode 5  )

Spoiler

As our daydream continues, it has turned into every parents worst nightmare. Han Byul has been taken by the Reaper. Ki Hyung’s phone rings while Hae Won frantically searches the mall for her missing son. Ki Hyung answers his phone and hears the Reapers voice asking if Ki Hyung is ready to make a deal. Hyun Joon and Sun Woo descend on the mall to aid in the search for Han Byul. Hyun Joon makes his way to the security room that houses all of the CCTV monitors for the mall. He flashes his badge and requests to see all of the recordings from the last few hours. Meanwhile, Sun Woo finds Hae Won and does her best to console her. As Hyun Joon reviews the security footage, he sees the moment when Han Byul wandered away from his mother. He also finds the moment when the Reaper took the child, leading him out a side door of the mall. Hyun Joon calls Sun Woo and the chase is on. After a brief search, Hyun Joon finds Han Byul safe and sound in a nearby play area. Sun Woo arrives seconds later and she clutches Han Byul to her while Hyun Joon calls Ki Hyung to let him know that his son has been located alive.

Ki Hyung arrives at the police station to find his wife and son with the rest of his team. He reaches for his boy and holds him tight. Hyun Joon takes Hae Won and Han Byul home while Ki Hyung continues to work on the case. On the ride home, Hae Won asks Hyun Joon to look after her husband. She explains that after the bombing he had nightmares every night. Hyun Joon had not considered that someone else had been in pain. He spent over a year blaming Ki Hyung for what happened and when he learned the truth he wasn’t sure what to do with his bitterness. Now he understands that Ki Hyung was just as devastated as he was following the bombing. He promises Hae Won that he will take care of her husband. It is how he will atone for his misguided anger. Later that night, as he watches over Ki Hyung’s home and family, his new understanding of Ki Hyung dominates his thoughts.

Later that night, Sun Woo and Na Hwang meet with the medical examiner. She remarks that the injuries on the Reapers victims are precise and reflect a knowledge of anatomy and surgery to suggest expertise. After the meeting, Sun Woo and Na Hwang go to Ki Hyung’s office to find him still at his desk. Sun Woo carefully suggests that perhaps Ki Hyung’s family should be placed in protective custody. The next day, Hae Won helps her husband tie his necktie before she and Han Byul leave for an undisclosed location. She smiles and wonders aloud what he will do without them since he can’t even tie his necktie on his own. He apologizes to her and she instructs him to straighten his shoulder and cheer up. Ki Hyung embraces her and Han Byul quickly springs up from where he is playing to join in. Out on the curb, Ki Hyung bundles his wife and child into a car and then speaks with the agent who is tasked with their safety. He promises Ki Hyung that he will look after his wife and child as though they are his own family.

Later that day the team reviews all of the suspects in the Reaper case and manages to narrow the list down to three. It is decided that each one will be brought in for further questioning. Hyun Joon and Sun Woo go to apprehend the first suspect. Go Sung Jin is the first suspect they target. When he sees Hyun Joon and Sun Woo, he makes a run for it. When it appears that he will get caught, he grabs the nearest ahjummah in a busy market and holds her at knife point. Hyun Joon manages to pull Sung Jin’s hostage away from him while Sun Woo takes the knife wielding felon to the pavement. Hyun Joon throws a giant look of admiration Sun Woo’s way. (Here’s hoping for some wrestling practice between these two in the near future.) At the police station, Hyun Joon begins to lay crime scene photos in front of Sung Jin who can’t quite understand what’s happening. He insists that he is innocent when he realizes that he is being brought back in for the Reaper case. Hyun Joon begins to lose patience until Sun Woo arrives and announces that Sung Jin has an alibi. On to the next suspect and they once again meet resistance. While Hyun Joon and Sun Won chase suspects, Lee Han and Ki Hyung review the testimony of Yong Chul. He sits in hospital pajamas and recounts his attack and his girlfriend’s murder. He tearfully says that he heard that the paramedics had to break her fingers to straighten her hands.

Hyun Joon receives a phone call from the young boy he spoke with. He asks Hyun Joon to come to the recovery center. His sister has remembered something about their parents attacker. When Hyung Joon and Sun Woo arrive they find a play being performed for the children. It is a play about being sad and how to deal with bad thoughts that a traumatized youngster might have. They join the audience, sitting behind the boy and his sister. When the play ends, the performers remove their giant heads to reveal the actors inside the costumes. Na Hwang is one of them. In the cafe, everyone sits a round table. Na Hwang has her dog costume with her. She has been volunteering every Saturday. After a brief chat, Hyun Joon asks little Se Hyung what she has remembered. “Mint Candy” she says. The attacker smelled of mint candy.

A couple is pulled over by a motorcycle cop in the rain. The driver gives his identification to the trooper who goes back to his motorcycle to get information from dispatch. The helmeted cop quickly returns to the car and stabs the driver viciously over and over. Later, the investigation team finds a locket from the previous murdered couple at the new crime scene. They also note that the man’s wedding ring is missing. One of their suspects, Jin Hwan, owns a photography studio not far from the current crime scene. The team descends on the photography studio with their guns at the ready. They find the studio practically wallpapered him Reaper news articles and photographs. Among the photos, they find Yong Chul’s picture front and center.

It has been determined that Yong Chul is in danger and most likely the next target of the Reaper. Sun Woo goes to his secret address to warn him of his danger. She waits outside and watches the residence. She receives a call from a restricted number. It is Yong Chul. She knocks on his door and he is surprised that she has arrived so quickly. She confesses that she was watching the house in order to protect him. Meanwhile, Hyun Joon and several other agents are waiting for their next suspect to appear. A man with a black baseball hat walks down a narrow street and pauses. He does so long enough for Na Hwang to verify his identity with facial recognition software. She confirms that the man in the hat is Seo Jin Hwan. Agents bolt from their vehicles and the chase is on. Hyun Joon joins the chase and when a motorcycle delivery man gets off his bike, Hyun Joon sees a way to end the chase quickly. He jumps on the bike and takes off while Lee Han holds the bike’s owner back and explains what is going on. The suspect weaves through narrow alleyways and side streets and eventually loses his pursuers until Hyun Joon catches up with him and slams the back end of the bike into him, sending him flying.

Min Young faces the media and makes a statement. The NCI team has located a suspect in the Northwestern Serial Murder case. Yong Chul watches the media coverage with great interest. He asks Sun Woo if Jin Hwan is the one who was arrested for copycat crimes like the Reapers? He seems to know a lot about the Reaper case and when Sun Woo gives him a strange look he shrugs his shoulders and asks her what she expected him to do while he was in hiding.He talks to her about his abusive childhood and how his father beat him and his mother was unable to stop it.

Hyun Joon stops by Na Hwang’s office to drop off a thumb drive from Seo Jin Hwan’s arrest. He says that preliminary testing has been done on the drive, so it should be safe. She plugs in the thumb drive and begins to tap away at her keyboard. Soon, photo after gruesome photo begins to display on her screen.

Ki Hyung enters an interrogation room to find Jin Hwan quickly offering his confession. He talks about the third time that he killed. He provides key details that only the killer would know. While he confesses, he scratches his thumb. Ki Hyung notices and quickly leaves the room. Hyun Joon meets him in the hallway. Ki Hyung announces “it’s not him”. He explains to the team that Jin Hwan said that he called and reported his third murder but Ki Hyung knows that the Reaper didn’t start reporting his murders via public telephone until his fourth murder. Lee Han watches the interrogation room monitor and notices Jin Hwan’s behaviors. He acts as if he is afraid. Suddenly, Lee Han grabs a case box from the shelf and pulls a photograph out. He rushes to the interrogation room and slides the photo across the table and asks where the people in the picture are now. Jin Hwan begins to stammer and look around nervously. Hyun Joon bursts into the room and snatches the photo from the table. He jerks Jin Hwan’s chair around to face him and shoves the photo in his face. “Did the Reaper threaten you?” he asks. Lee Han talks to the rest of the team behind the glass. “The Reaper threatened his family!” The words are still hanging in the air when Jin Hwan begins to beg and plead. He tells Hyun Joon that the Reaper has his son. A video call comes through the observation room to the team. It is Na Hwang and she is close to tears. She doesn’t know what happened but it looks like the NCI computer has been hacked. Everyone rushes to Na Hwang’s office and they quickly conclude that the thumb drive from Jin Hwan’s is responsible for the hack. Na Hwang and Lee Han go to work to try and stop the hack. The team realizes that Jin Hwan was used by the Reaper to get inside their systems. Hyun Joon tells the team about the smell of mint candy on the killer and Ki Hyung realizes that Yong Chul lied. In his hospital interview, Yong Chul said that the paramedics had to break his fiance’s fingers to open her hands. But when he recently spoke with Ki Hyung and Sun Woo he said that he had been holding her hand and had to break her fingers in order to get free. With numerous stab wounds, there is no way he would have been able to do that so how did he know her fingers were broken. The answer is too sinister and frightening. Yong Chul is the Reaper.

No sooner do they come to the realization, than one of the computer screens springs to life and they are face to face with Yong Chul, the Reaper. In the background, we see the older woman and the boy from the photographs. It is Jin Hwan’s mother and son. Yong Chul tells them that what they are watching is a video and that Ki Hyung is responsible for what will happen next. After all, he had promised that he would surprise Ki Hyung. Yong Chul turns from the camera and brutally stabs the woman and boy. The team realizes that they have been watched the whole time and surely Yong Chul knows where Ki Hyung’s wife and child are.

Ki Hyung and Hyun Joon race to the safe house only to find the agent charged with Hae Won and Han Byul’s safety, lying in a pool of blood and near death. Ki Hyung rushes to his side and the agent promises that he didn’t tell Yong Chul anything. We are shown the agents attack. Yong Chul surprises the agent and quickly cuts his Achilles tendon rendering the man unable to walk. Then he sits on his chest and begins to stab and beat the man in an effort to extract information from him. When the agent won’t tell him what he wants to know, Yong Chul takes the agents phone and begins to go down his list of recent calls until Hae Won answers the phone. He tells her that he is a special agent with NCI and he has some terrible news for her. He then works up some crocodile tears and explains that the agent that was protecting them has been killed and their location has been compromised. He also lies and tells Hae Won that Ki Hyung is dead. He instructs her to where to meet him. Now we flash forward to the present as Ki Hyung jumps in the ambulance with the severely wounded agent. It is here that Ki Hyung finds out that his wife and child have been manipulated.

In the mobile command center, the team tries desperately to locate Hae Won and Han Byul but Yong Chul has done a very good job of hiding his tracks. Ki Hyung doesn’t wait for the team to find Yong Chul, instead, he contacts him directly. Ki Hyung does his best to be made of stone as he talks to Yong Chul. He is sure that Yong Chul doesn’t know where his wife and child are and that is why he is making them come to him instead. The two men verbally poke at one another in sensitive spots. Ki Hyung pokes at Yong Chul’s unhappy childhood and his adult life bereft of love and laughter. Yong Chul pokes at Ki Hyung’s fear of losing everything that is dear to him. The NCI team can only listen helplessly. Another call interrupts the conversation and Yong Chul switches over. It is Hae Won. She has arrived at the instructed location. Little does she know that Yong Chul is sitting directly behind the taxi watching her every move. He tells her to go inside and leave the front door open. He will arrive soon. He switches back to his call with Ki Hyung and taunts him with the information. Ki Hyung’s eyes fill with tears knowing that he is miles away from being able to help his family.

The NCI team tries to guess where Yong Chul might possibly send Hae Won. Sun Woo believes that the location that would damage Ki Hyung the most would be their own home. Her suspicion is proved correct when the team realizes that Yong Chul had instructed her to leave the door open. They deliver the information to Ki Hyung who speeds towards home. As he does, his phone rings. It is Hae Won who is relieved to know that he is alive but she trembles in fear as Yong Chul embraces her son. Ki Hyung verifies that Yong Chul is listening to the call. He carefully and quietly tells her to stay calm and to not allow Yong Chul to see her fear. Yong Chul tries to taunt Hae Wan and asks her if her husband told her about the deal he made with the Reaper. Then he taunts Ki Hyung. He tells him that because of Ki Hyung’s ego, his beautiful wife and child will soon die. Ki Hyung tells Hae Won to ignore Yong Chul and she says that she trusts her husband.

Ki Hyung asks Hae Won to give a message to Han Byul. The boy comes to the phone and Ki Hyung tells his son that he needs his help with a case. The boy understands what his father is telling him to do and says he will help him and not to worry. Ki Hyung then asks Han Byul to hug his mother for him. Mother and child embrace and she tells the boy how much she loves him. Han Byul tells his mother that he needs to go when Ki Hyung begins to say “tick tock tick tock”. The child leaves the room and we aren’t too sure where he is going. Yong Chul forces Hae Won to kneel and places a gun to her head. She tells Ki Hyung to be sure that Han Byul knows that she didn’t leave him. Ki Hyung cries as he listens to his wife’s trembling voice and Yong Chul’s laughter. A shot rings out.

Ki Hung arrives home and he carefully makes his way through his silent home with his gun drawn. In the master bedroom, he finds Hae Won lying on the floor. Blood stains her white clothing. She doesn’t move or breathe. Ki Hyung looks to the left and sees shoes sticking out under the drapes. He fires five rounds into the drapes and Yong Chul falls to the floor with five slugs buried deep in the chest plate of the bullet proof vest he is wearing. He suddenly springs to life and viciously attacks Ki Hyung. Ki Hyung fights back but when Yong Chul breaks a heavy glass vase against the side of his head, he falls to the ground and does the best to protect himself. Meanwhile, Yong Chul continues his attack, both physical and mental. He tells Ki Hyung that he is going to make Han Byul believe that his parent’s deaths are all his fault. Ki Hyung fights back. He notices Yong Chul’s off balance position and uses it to his advantage. He reaches up and shoves the side of Yong Chul’s head as hard as he can, sending him flying down the stairs. Ki Hyung follows Yong Chul down the stairs. He grabs the now dazed and prone Yong Chul by his collar. Once in the center of the room, Ki Hyung begins to beat the snot out of Yong Chul. Even when it is clear that he can no longer fight back, Ki Hyung continues to rain blows onto Yong Chul’s bloodied face. “Die! Die!’ he repeats over and over. He is a man possessed.

The front door bursts open and we find Hyun Joon with his gun drawn. He advances inside the house, followed by Sun Woo, Min Young and Lee Han. Sun Woo shouts for Ki Hyung to stop. Ki Hyung turns his bloodied face towards his team. Sun Woo says that if they are swayed by people who don’t deserve to live then we become just like them. Ki Hyung rises and slowly climbs the stairs. We are shown a memory. Ki Hyung sits at his desk when he hears a knocking. In the cedar chest next to his desk, Han Byul is hiding. His father opens the lid to find his baby boy. He asks him what he is doing and Han Byul replies that he is helping his father solve a case. The two share a sweet moment as father and son. We return to the present. Ki Hyung carefully opens the cedar chest. It is there that he finds Han Byul. He is alive. Ki Hyung envelops his child in his arms, grateful that he has something left to hold on to. Min Young and Lee Han stand behind them. Ki Hyung leaves the child in their care and makes his way back to the master bedroom. He finds Sun Woo at his wife’s side. She quietly rises and leaves the room. Until now, his face was made of stone. He crosses the threshold of the room and he breaks, sobbing quietly at the sight of his murdered wife. He drops to the floor and crawls to her side, gently caressing her hair as he says her name over and over. Outside, Yong Chul is loaded into an ambulance. Although he is strapped to the gurney he struggles fiercely against his restraints.

We are shown Hae Won’s funeral. The NCI team stands by as Ki Hyung and Han Byul bid their last farewell to Hae Won. It is a somber moment as we can tell that none of them will ever be quite the same. That night, Min Young tucks her daughter into bed and lingers a bit longer than she normally would. A few days later, Hyun Joon approaches a house where a woman works in the yard. She turns to see him and a broad smile transforms his face. One night we see Sun Woo. She is sitting in her car watching a house. A couple has just returned home. The pair exits the car and as the woman walks towards the house she stops and looks in Sun Woo’s direction. Sun Woo turns her face away, fearing that she might be recognized. The woman continues into the house and Sun Woo watches her go. You can feel her longing to speak to the woman but something keeps her in her seat.

Several weeks later, Ki Hyung prepares to return to work. In the closet, he finds a rack of neckties, each of them with a perfect Windsor knot already neatly tied for him. It is a simple love gesture that remains. Ki Hyung remembers how Hae Won would help him with his ties. He takes a tie from the rack and with shaking hands he puts the tie in its place. He looks at a family photo on the vanity counter and says “I’ll be back”. At NCI headquarters, Ki Hyung finds Han Byul playing games with his team. He manages a smile knowing that so many are watching over him and his son. A news report airs in the background. The reporter says that Yong Chul has escaped after being transferred to the hospital for a suicide attempt. The Reaper is on the loose again.

REVIEW

This was an intense episode. I didn’t expect that they would kill off Ki Hyung’s wife, at least not this soon. He is so completely damaged now I’m not really sure how he would be able to effectively perform his job. I can’t imagine how difficult it must be to be a crime scene investigator or a profiler. Being exposed to death and the absolute worst of humanity every day would be soul crushing, to say the least. I am sure that they must be superhuman to some degree.

I knew something was up with Kim Won Hae’s portrayal of Yong Chul. He was just too strange, too shifty to be just a victim. He is great at playing crazies and it wouldn’t surprise me if he makes a career of it.

Be Well

Queen Mab

Source http://www.kdramadaydream.com/criminal-minds-ep-4-or-in-plain-sight/

 

[LadyOne]

51 minutes ago, zi4r said:

 

About next week preview..... For the first time since the drama began, I have no freaking idea which US version episode it's supposed to be! 

If I remember correctly, it should be season 2 the episode where the killers films their doing and send the recordings to the victims family... 

[antoniaclamens]

First: @jeonghyang thank you so much for feeding my ever growing collection of CM gifs! Yours are love!! And they always help me to sort the missing parts while streaming. @goldenmoon thank you as always for the vids links
@LyraYoo LH more than 2 words!!! and the abs!!! ( @pixelsticks that was for you!!!). @zi4r sadly I missed the Hyun game line  (because I was watching with no audio). BTW internet connection worked fine today (unless at some critical moments like when LH was hurt and when SW discovered the bomb!). But today everyone kept pestering me with stupid things, once I could escape hiding in the bathroom. Plus, I have 2 bosses, I haven´t seen them since more than a month and I needed to talk to them badly… but I missed the chance. They were at the office today, but I rather watch the drama raw than talk to my bosses (meaning a lot of work pending that now have to wait some more. Sigh)

About the episode, it was great! I love it!!!! So much!!! Totally nail biting experience! I’m so happy, hope Koreans felt the same way and watched the episode. I want good ratings and good reviews. 

[sakura2016]

@violina @zi4r hhhhhhh I'm someone who can ship a couple in the middle of darkness (Whisper/Lookout) so this is nothing new to me  and being the hopeless fangirl that I am I'll keep hoping against hope that we get even a small glimps of hope that Hyun Joon and Seon Woo become more than partners  and till then I'll ship them even if all I'll have is their gazes to each other  

@zi4r Seon Woo got worried for Hyun Joon, forgot how she run to the train cabinet when she thaught he was shot?!!  hhhhhhh I love the look they exchanged she was annoyed that he made her show her care when he's completely fine and how he's looking back at her... 

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cr:@violina

 

his impressed look!!  

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cr: @zi4r

 

love how tried to leave but he told her to go together!! awwwww  

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cr: @jeonghyang

 

give me/us more show!! romance or not I'll fangirl and ship them as I please!!  hihihi

1 hour ago, violina said:

My soompi is behaving funny so Il just bring out some of the quotes and then comment:

Spoiler

 

Quoting: @LyraYoo said: With the same agency I bet they have the same stylist. No romance but you can't zero out chemistry.  

Quoting: @sakura2016 said:  I keep reminding myself that there is no romance in the drama but really how not to ship them?!!  

Quoting: @zi4r said: Cry with me, chingu. Cuz as far as I saw, there was no flirtation, no bickering (nothing fun anyway), no worrying for one another (except for one "Sun-woo-ssi!" exclamation outta HJ). Quite a few T&J moments, but there was no sunshine & flowers like in our day-dreams. How could they do this to me? WAE?!!! And why the heck did I daydream about that?!!!

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Now my comment well (not really) but since I do like gif making and gif collecting. So I visit tumblr alot.While I was surfing around and making my gifs, I saw these two blog entries which I think best summaries our thoughts here about this:

This was the comment about our resident "Tom and Jerry" after ep 1 and ep 2:

1a. So i know they said in the press conference that there would be no romance, but the more i think about it, the more i feel like it’s an absolutely wasted opportunity for a romance(not that they need to throw in a loveline in this drama, lest the critics come swimming in with their whining) built on stronger foundations than you usually get with police dramas, as well as with characters that have an almost unique dynamic. (not to mention LJG and MCW total chemistry on screen!)I loved the scene where he was hitting the wall in frustration, and she was just like ‘this isn’t helping’ - he’s hot headed, and she doesn’t give a crap.Whilst they’re not bffs from the second they meet, they’re actually quite respectful to each other. and believe it or not its pretty shocking that he never interjects while she’s speaking and waits for her to finish even when she’s repeating information he already has.There is no ‘i work alone’ on either side - and minus the scene where he initially rejects her car ride, they help each other out and team up without question.

Furthermore, there is no ‘you’re an nuisance’ either. Even when she’s injured, he offers to drop her off at the hospital but at no point makes a comment about her getting in the way - which is something she mentions happened to her as a cop and also happens with the team leader later in the episode.They’re also not indifferent to each other - and things like him asking if she’s okay, make a significant difference to what i usually see in the first 2 episodes of cop dramas.female characters in  cop dramas are usually: villains, mediocre at their jobs but are sweet and try super hard!, or not even cops - so for Sun Woo to actually be good at her job is also pretty great tbh because her dynamic with Hyun Joon is as his equal as opposed to someone who relies on his help every step of the way.They both have their own emotional baggage, and therefore are given an equal amount of depth to their characters - which is also kinda rare in dramas.Two episodes in and they’ve already had deeper conversations and gotten to know each other better than some kdrama couples do midway. So in summary:

TvN: *creates a ship with respect and no power imbalance*

TvN:  *uses two strong actors with very good chemistry*

TvN: *develops said character’s relationship more in the first 2 episodes than some couples get in half the drama*

TvN: *doesn’t use any of the annoying male cop/female cop tropes*(male character is an ace/female character is sucks at her job)

TvN: *shows tension in views between the characters without either of them being outrightly rude to each other*

TvN: haha by the way its not going to be romantic :)

Good Job at trolling TVN Really Good Job!!!Bring on the juice, I am loving it.

Credit to user:@lavenderbyun on tumblr for her insight.

 

 

 

I so loved this post and agree with it!!  I so love their dynamic!!  

1 hour ago, zi4r said:

I do have a few questions/potential issues. They will probably be answered by subs, but I'll list them here anyway. (Inside spoiler tag, because it's a bit detailed.)

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• Why was the masked guy so obviously hanging around in the park? Was he taunting them?
• The last attack site..... Why was the building/area not evacuated? I understand there might be panic..... but couldn't there be a section-by-section evacuation? Or maybe use a fire-alarm-drill or something?
• SW took quite a while to drive away with the bomb & dismantle it. Why not bomb-squad? Were they on the way? Just not enough time?

 

 

I need subs muself but these my guesses for your questions!!  

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• they say criminals go back to the crime scene, so maybe he went there to see what the cops are up to or to enjoy seeing them trying to find him but fail though that wasn't really the case with Hyun Joon finding him among the crowd!! 
• maybe they feared the criminal may explode the bomb if he realised that they were trying to evacuate the place?!!
• I think there was no enough time for the bomb-squad team!! and I was so happy (though terrified for sure) that she called Hyun Joon to help her with dimantling it: he got to do his old job again  and she was his partner putting her trust on him!!  Partner Work!!  

 

[goldenmoon]

2 hours ago, LyraYoo said:

 

With the same agency I bet they have the same stylist. No romance but you can't zero out chemistry.  

I know we have zero romance concept but their chemistry is strong.

 

2 hours ago, sakura2016 said:

 

that's our mission: "press refresh button" hhhhh  

 

I keep reminding myself that there is no romance in the drama but really how not to ship them?!!  

 

@jeonghyang @goldenmoon @LyraYoo thank you so much for the gifs, videos and screancaps!!  

 You are welcome.Well I'm trying to remind myself that too again and again  

 

2 hours ago, zi4r said:

Initial thoughts

My stream was lagging like every 5 seconds in 2nd half of the episode, so I'm not sure whether I was actually seeing all that I'm supposed to see. But.....

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@LyraYoo @goldenmoon @sakura2016 Cry with me, chingus. Cuz as far as I saw, there was no flirtation, no bickering (nothing fun anyway), no worrying for one another (except for one "Sun-woo-ssi!" exclamation outta HJ). Quite a few T&J moments, but there was no sunshine & flowers like in our day-dreams. How could they do this to me? WAE?!!! And why the heck did I daydream about that?!!! I knew dang well I'm just torturing myself!

 

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• Why was the masked guy so obviously hanging around in the park? Was he taunting them?
• The last attack site..... Why was the building/area not evacuated? I understand there might be panic..... but couldn't there be a section-by-section evacuation? Or maybe use a fire-alarm-drill or something?
• SW took quite a while to drive away with the bomb & dismantle it. Why not bomb-squad? Were they on the way? Just not enough time?

 

Our romantic hearts are trying to find romance even when there is nothing  I also don't know why I'm torturing myself !!

 

2 hours ago, violina said:

 

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TvN: *creates a ship with respect and no power imbalance*

TvN:  *uses two strong actors with very good chemistry*

TvN: *develops said character’s relationship more in the first 2 episodes than some couples get in half the drama*

TvN: *doesn’t use any of the annoying male cop/female cop tropes*(male character is an ace/female character is sucks at her job)

TvN: *shows tension in views between the characters without either of them being outrightly rude to each other*

TvN: haha by the way its not going to be romantic :)

Good Job at trolling TVN Really Good Job!!!Bring on the juice, I am loving it.

Credit to user:@lavenderbyun on tumblr for her insight.

 

 

LOL TvN is doing good job at creating a ship which will not sail 

 

1 hour ago, sakura2016 said:

@violina @zi4r hhhhhhh I'm someone who can ship a couple in the middle of darkness (Whisper/Lookout) so this is nothing new to me  and being the hopeless fangirl that I am I'll keep hoping against hope that we get even a small glimps of hope that Hyun Joon and Seon Woo become more than partners  and till then I'll ship them even if all I'll have is their gazes to each other  

@zi4r Seon Woo got worried for Hyun Joon, forgot how she run to the train cabinet when she thaught he was shot?!!  hhhhhhh I love the look they exchanged she was annoyed that he made her show her care when he's completely fine and how he's looking back at her... 

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his impressed look!!  

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love how tried to leave but he told her to go together!! awwwww  

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give me/us more show!! romance or not I'll fangirl and ship them as I please!!  hihihi

 

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• they say criminals go back to the crime scene, so maybe he went there to see what the cops are up to or to enjoy seeing them trying to find him but fail though that wasn't really the case with Hyun Joon finding him among the crowd!! 
• maybe they feared the criminal may explode the bomb if he realised that they were trying to evacuate the place?!!
• I think there was no enough time for the bomb-squad team!! and I was so happy (though terrified for sure) that she called Hyun Joon to help her with dimantling it: he got to do his old job again  and she was his partner putting her trust on him!!  Partner Work!!  

 

These small glances little worry oh give us more these small scenes we will ship them till the end even if we don't get romance 

About episode well without subs I don't even understand a single word need subs fast 

[sakura2016]

1 hour ago, goldenmoon said:

These small glances little worry oh give us more these small scenes we will ship them till the end even if we don't get romance 

About episode well without subs I don't even understand a single word need subs fast 

 

hhhhhhhhhhh just give us more of those moments then if they don't give us romance we can make it in our imagination!!  

I understand a little bit but I understand even less with these kind of genres and sageuks  so I NEED subs even more here!!  

[violina]

5 hours ago, LyraYoo said:

4 hours ago, goldenmoon said:

Are they really T & J?!And what is it most of the time they have color coordinated clothes!!!

 

5 hours ago, LyraYoo said:

With the same agency I bet they have the same stylist.

Lets just say namoo/drama stylist- nim is also in on the trolling/pettiness too.I mean come on bruh..every episode?Especially when they are polar opposites in personalities!Its a NON-ROMANCE cop drama and its an ensemble cast of 6 with three main leads?Obviously, Sun Woo would have a limited wardrobe because she is straight laced personality.Same as Team Leader Kang. So I am predicting we will be seeing very similar colours on her throughout the drama, and she will stick to wearing mostly formal wear .Whereas Hyun Joon is the more laid back personality and our muscle man.So he would have a more extensive wardrobe, and will be alternating between smart casual and formal wear. He can have alot of variety in colours of shirts, trousers, shoes etc. NNH and LH are out of the questio because they have eccentric personalities. So their fashion taste would be totally unpredictable on a day to day basis.MY is a media person. So her fashion taste would be more "classy and chic" so she too is out of question. see SW and HJ;

a. ep 1.outer wear navy blue shirt/blazer. Inner wear white

b.ep 2. Black outer wear, light blue inner wear

c. ep 3 black inner wear

d. ep 4. Black outer wear, white inner wear

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So to stylist- nim..we know these two are buddies on the crime scene, so they re gonna have a lot of scenes together. One is a behaviour analyst, the other is a field agent. But must you coordinate their outfits as often as that? 

Like it was said in MLSHR:

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Wangso: If you are not going to come to me. Dont give me hope.For me, its torture.

So I will borrow this quote and say to TVN: If you know for sure, you are going to stick to your resolution, not to throw a loveline in here.Do not give us hope. For us hopeless romantics/fangirls, its torture.

 

Ok enough of the petty talk..about two or three hours before the ratings news and reviews start pouring in.We need a full video with subs,so we can comment on the episode itself.

Trolling to be continued....

[andy78]

3 hours ago, goldenmoon said:

I know we have zero romance concept but their chemistry is strong.

i could not agree more...the story and actors are great so intense ...is ok even with no romance and otp...

[Chellsee]

'Criminal Minds' episode 5 rating: 2.4%

 

[RanM]

Based on your comments, last night's ep is better than the first four episodes. Can't wait to see ep5. 

Anyway, thanks @jeonghyang for the photos,vids and gifs last night. I'm really amazed how you can make gifs, post photos and vids while in ls. 

[antoniaclamens]

LOL @violina @sakura2016 and @goldenmoon. i think tvN is doing a good job teasing us!!! they keep us wondering what if... i don´t why they´re so bad to us or if it´s our hyperactive minds fault. Anyway I´m enjoying the ride!  

@stroppyse thank you for your amazing episode analysis 

@Chellsee i can´t thank you for the ratings news... i know it's not your fault but when i saw your post my heart sunk. This awesome episode sure deserves better ratings 

And the subs aren´t out yet  I've already watched the episode raw, but i need subs now!!!

BTW. I found it funny the amount of running that uri HJ has to do. From the preview next episode won´t be an exception. lol

 

[antoniaclamens]

New JG v live with his awesome action scenes

http://www.vlive.tv/video/38316/

[zi4r]

Headsup everybody. Subs are up. JUST got uploaded. So @antoniaclamens, you can stop crying now, chingu.

I'll try and push out a review as soon as I finish watching with subs. It's a freaking good episode IMO, so it deserves a nice write-up.

 

About the ratings..... Well, I expected it after EP04 (because of quality & gore content & depressive tone). But let's all not focus on that.

Let's focus on the fact that the drama quality has improved leaps & bounds. It seems to have found its groove. If they continue at this quality, the ratings should follow. Even if not, the critical reception would be better.

So yeah, let's focus on happy thoughts, yeah?

[Uniform Victory]

Fight scene BTS

[Chellsee]

[HanCinema's Drama Review] "Criminal Minds" Episode 5

For reasons that are unclear to me, "Criminal Minds" really wants to be an action cop series. We open up with Hyeon-joon assaulting and letting go of a possible perpetrator in a parking garage. Then there's a whole setpiece that goes through a park, a tunnel, and finally an ubran alley without any pedestrian or automotive presence unless the script specifically calls for it. Gi-hyeong really seems itching for a fight most of the time, even if he's not all that good at fighting.

The purview of the criminal profiling team is poorly defined, considering how they do almost no criminal profiling that we see. At one point the military attempts to take over the investigation and to my great surprise, I found myself siding with them. Since most of the main team's efforts devolve to violence sooner or later anyway, wouldn't it make more sense to have the guys whose professional job is actually violence be in charge of the operation?

Especially since Hyeon-joon is the only character we see who actually gets action scenes. Actually, he's the only character of any real importance at all that I can tell. Observe how, even though Seon-woo is the one in position to actually defuse the final conflict, Hyeon-joon is the one who has to relay instructions to her. Min-yeong obsesses over the fate of her niece instead of doing her job.

Gi-hyeong gives orders, occasionally hesitating because of random post-traumatic stress. Na-hwang has the most useful role as the character who narrates what the computer is saying. Han's main contribution is, of all things, expressing interest in a book that appears to say "Female War", which is probably the worst possible book to use for the purpose of hiding a secret lever.

Was any of this in the original "Criminal Minds"? Because I'm reading the synopsis of the matching episode, number twenty-two of season four, and none of this goofy chasing the Übermensch serial killer stuff is in there. Mostly it just looks the story was about exploring how and why someone would want to cause an anthrax outbreak, and how this related to their mental pathology, finally culminating in a climax where the villain is undone by their true desires. How did Writer Hong Seung-hyeon take that, and turn it into something with as stupid a cliché as cutting the right wires to a bomb? I can't make any sense of it.

http://www.hancinema.net/hancinema-s-drama-review-criminal-minds-episode-5-108729.html

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"Criminal Minds" Go Yoon stabbed and exposed to bio-chemical

Go Yoon was exposed to anthrax bacterium.

On the latest episode of the tvN drama "Criminal Minds", Lee Han (Go Yoon) was terrorized by anthrax bacterium.

He was investigating the anthrax bacterium terror case when he exposed himself to the criminal. He entered the criminal's house and fan into him.

The criminal stabbed Lee Han and tried to kill him but ran away when Kim Hyeon-joon (Lee Joon-gi) appeared but managed to spray anthrax bacterium before he did.

Lee Han stopped Kim Hyeon-joon from coming into the basement. He said, "Don't come in. This place has been infected. I won't die; don't worry".

However, Lee Han was in critical condition and he didn't tell the other NCI that he was stabbed and continued the investigation.

http://www.hancinema.net/spoiler-criminal-minds-go-yoon-stabbed-and-exposed-to-bio-chemical-108715.html

[antoniaclamens]

@zi4r just finished watching  it was far better with subs. But it's really late here and I'll try to get some sleep. 

I will comment about the episode tomorrow morning and I'm sure I'm gonna find some reviews 

After this episode I'm very happy and optimistic. Can't wait for episode 6

[Uniform Victory]

I thought Hancinema is a professional dramas and movies review site. But sounds like it is just any other amateur dramas and movies enthusiasts sites like soompi or dramabeans or tabloid sites.

I hope that site(writer) learns how to give review by only focusing on the drama itself and not how it is in comparison to the original. Come on! It is already on episode 5 yet the the writer is still saying the same thing what's already been said since episode 1.

"How did Writer Hong Seung-hyeon take that, and turn it into something with as stupid a cliché as cutting the right wires to a bomb? I can't make any sense of it. " --- Maybe the author of Hancinema watched the episode in raw version or did her review based on still shot photos.

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Rating: Wednesdays are tough. It is up against strong variety shows, Let's Eat Dinner Together and Radio Star, with already established fan base. The drama needs positive reviews. Forget about being critical for the heck of being critical. What's written in any sites could travel to & from  anywhere, either from Int'l sites to Korean sites or vice versa. Because this drama involves high profile stars, even small and harmless negative comments can be blown out of proportion. It needs positive reviews. I'd say, if you don't have any thing good to say better shut up. (apologies for being so blunt) I am not imposing though but just saying. It's a free world afterall, people can say whatever they want to say.

It has better chances of getting high ratings on Thursdays. Although there's 'War of Words' (variety show? talk show?) which is also a strong contender. Fingers crossed.

[Chellsee]

New stills.

Source: http://enews.imbc.com/News/RetrieveNewsInfo/212435

[Uniform Victory]

Finally watched episode 5 with Eng Sub. Amazing episode.... I find ep 5 as an improvement from ep 2,3 and 4. I hope they keep it up in this quality or make it even better.

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with a handsome crazy ex-soldier as the unsub.

Episode 5 quote: Convictions are more dangerous foes of truth than lies. – Nietzsche

Looking forward for episode 6.