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[Drama 2018-2019] Empress Dignity / The Last Empress, 황후의 품격

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Just caught up with preview and also the updates on this forum. I am convinced that the writer has nothing else to write in the last 4 episodes and centers it on Hyuk and Sunny (am hoping that it is not Lovey Dovey scenes). Till now it seems like the good guys are always a step behind the evil. No fresh ides anymore and I cannot imagine why they still have to show another kiss (whether it was intentional, accidental or forced) between HYuk and Sunny.

 

it makes me wonder why she even wrote WS’s character if she does not even focus on the development of his story and perhaps may just write him off easily.. sigh.. she must really hate him LOL. 

 

TLE had a promising start but it lost its direction in the 2nd half of the show and now heading for self destruction. It could have been wrapped up nicely and tight in 20 hourly episodes max but they added in too many unnecessary fillers. 

 

I am already disappointed that the production team and writer treated WS character so insignificantly but I will be utterly mad with them if they turned the strong minded Sunny whose Character is one of the most well developed and consistent throughout this show to change her mind easily and end up with LH. 

 

The inconsistency of the story line has left many viewers angry and have ridiculous “shipping war” in Twitter-land and other forums. People have missed the essence of TLE. Not the fault of any of the casts but the writer herself. The the extension and the mess up of CJH’s appearance in the drama has turned away many viewers (both fans and non fans)

 

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Just now, katakwasabi said:

The clip looks like an ent programme coverage. For it to be shown before the episode, i say its just to mess with viewers mind :lol:

 

It's SBS entertainment News show New Late Night E News...such promotion . :rolleyes:

 

Just now, katakwasabi said:

 

About Hyuk flipflopping between evil and good. I dunno. He is constantly flipflopping and unpredictable. It makes me wonder...is writernim having fun writing her villains? She makes her villains do and say over the top stuff a lot :sweatingbullets:.

 

Is it possible if it's not just the writer..May be this Writer-PD combination likes doing that? Because something like that happened in Return too.. 

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@katakwasabi, I read that after the first lead left the drama her character took a turn in the wrong direction..Is it true? Asking you because you've recently completed Return.

I never watched Return but read thing in news as it created lot of controversy that time. I only knew that they had a disagreement because lead character is not going as it was supposed to go and villains were too crazy and getting more screen time. Just knew it during Drama Awards that TLE PD and Return PD are same.

 

 

Happy Birthday to Lee Elijah. :)

 

 

I've seen her acting in Miss Hammurabi and TLE.. I think she's pretty good at acting.. she is such a cute bubbly girl off screen though.. Good Luck to Lee Elijah. Hope she'll get more better projects ahead. :)

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12 minutes ago, ChewyChocolate said:

 Story is so wacky that this could be the moment that she realizes that she loves him.

 

 

 

Do you think,

Is she said before to Lee Hyuk is her true feeling? She said "How can 10 years feeling disappear that easily?" 

Sunny still have a feeling toward Lee Hyuk?

I just think it for make Lee Hyuk comfortable to her?

When she said to believe once again her husband, when she save a woman that tried to suicide, is she also will give another chance to Lee Hyuk? 

 

I think Sunny's feeling and Lee Hyuk chance is already disappear, when she talk to Woo Bin, who's afraid if Lee Hyuk not let her go, she clearly declare if she won't be have a feeling to Lee Hyuk again. 

 

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Am I the only one who still loves the show? I’m honestly surprised by the reaction here since it’s been clear to me from the start of the second half of where the writers were going since the start of the second half. I also always take the original synopsis with a grain of salt since it’s only supposed to be a generalization of the plot to get people watching

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3 hours ago, Crystal Kim said:

Am I the only one who still loves the show? I’m honestly surprised by the reaction here since it’s been clear to me from the start of the second half of where the writers were going since the start of the second half. I also always take the original synopsis with a grain of salt since it’s only supposed to be a generalization of the plot to get people watching

Huh?A plot synopsis gives general overview of what to expect ,which in may case has been 100% right  this one is a straight up lie  for some reason.

 

Maybe Lie is a strong word it was just plain wrong.

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1 hour ago, dramaninja said:

Huh?A plot synopsis gives general overview of what to expect ,which in may case has been 100% right  this one is a straight up lie  for some reason.

 

Maybe Lie is a strong word it wad just plain wrong.

From the one on drama list, the only thing “wrong” is Sunny falling in love with NWS, which is not even certain rn since there are still some episodes yet. 

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Kyaaaa! Happy birthday Lee Elijah! She is so so pretty~ i watched her in RM recently, and she is so bubbly unlike her character haha.

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8 hours ago, flutterby06 said:

Is it possible if it's not just the writer..May be this Writer-PD combination likes doing that? Because something like that happened in Return too.. 

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@katakwasabi, I read that after the first lead left the drama her character took a turn in the wrong direction..Is it true? Asking you because you've recently completed Return.

I never watched Return but read thing in news as it created lot of controversy that time. I only knew that they had a disagreement because lead character is not going as it was supposed to go and villains were too crazy and getting more screen time. Just knew it during Drama Awards that TLE PD and Return PD are same.

 

 

About Return..

In essence TLE and Return is kinda similar. It is about revenge. It is about choice. The choice to be good or bad, the choice to amend the bad you did or continue covering it up. Other thoughts in tab below:  

 

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Note: these are all personal opinions. I do note that there are comments that said Return went south after the actress switch (in which, i don't necessarily agree, I felt it was ok, might also be because I didnt watch it live).

 

In Return, there was no denying that the 4 friends were the true/main villains, and the revenge plot was fledged out from beginning to end and it involves a lot of people both good and bad.  However, in TLE one of the main villain is made to be ambiguous, at times coloured in such a light that he seems reformed. Mama and Nanny are consistent though. The revenge plot in TLE kinda went lackluster after a while. Which is a pity. I read the genre for TLE is thriller. It does not really feels like a thriller throughout. But i still enjoy TLE despite it all. Edit to add: i don't complain much about deviations in genre(if any) that might have happen in TLE, because I like funny-Hyuk as much as I despise his evil cray side #sorrynotsorry hehe

 

With regards to the actress switch in Return, I did not delve into the fiasco all that much. I did read about it but I don't know what to conclude from what I read. Thus, i am not sure why the actress decided to leave mid drama. And I'm also not sure if the writing was the cause or was it changed because of the switch. To me the actress transition was ok-ish. She cut her hair and voila she became another person, but I think her core characteristics remain somewhat similar to before.

 

I find the villains and good guys in Return were balanced. They are on level playing ground, and it did not feel like the villains were always on top. Usually the good guys have the upper hand. The good guys were going around creating havoc in the 4 villains lives. It also needs to be noted that the good guys are not actually all that good, they ended up being 'villains' despite themselves.

Exp1: good guys messing with bad guys

 

About air time..i feel that the airtime is equal or balanced too. Return had a lot of characters. And it had 4 engaging main villains, and each of them have their own distinct characteristics, it might be inevitable that the villains stole the limelight eventhough the airtime of each character maybe similar. From YT clips alone, Hakbum (Bong Tae Gyu) was the one that caught my initial intention.

Exp2: he keys a car, because he can

 

But after watching the whole drama, i find all the villains are well written. And I had no problem identifying their evilness or even a bit of regret in some of them.

Exp3: evil friends flock together

 

On the other hand, I think the female lead is well written too. Imo, her arc started later as the story unfurls. And I found her arc suprising in a good way. I appreciate the villains in Return. But without the female lead character, it would not be the same. She and her small team was the backbone of everything that happened in Return.  

Exp4: the main protagonist

 

All in all I find Return a good thriller. SSR's character is akin to cray2 Hyuk at times esp in the earlier eps of TLE. But Oh Tae Suk is way smarter. He uses his brain and thinks fast on his feet. OTS is way scarier than Hyuk.

Exp5: 2 psycho friends

 

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Ari posted a pic with Mama~

 

Jang Nara drama plans after TLE~ with Lee Sang Yoon.

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trivia: LSY and SSR are basketball buddies and acted in at least 2 dramas together. Hahaha. I can't help it. Seeing LSY's name reminds me of Liar Game and OTWTTA :sweatingbullets:.

 

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From @annchoi spoiler not really a spoiler. Many of us suspect this would happen to him.... I do believe he was hurt in trying to save Sunni hence why she reacted as she did. 

 

New stills...the clothing matches the spoiler. 

 

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Read source - http://star.mk.co.kr/v2/view.php?sc=40900001&year=2019&no=102602

 

@katakwasabi wow SSR is in Vagabond and simultaneously filming both dramas. WOW he needs to share his time management skills lol! and will he play a villain? 

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4 hours ago, Kasmic said:

From @annchoi spoiler not really a spoiler. Many of us suspect this would happen to him.... I do believe he was hurt in trying to save Sunni hence why she reacted as she did. 

 

New stills...the clothing matches the spoiler. 

 

Read source - http://star.mk.co.kr/v2/view.php?sc=40900001&year=2019&no=102602

 

@katakwasabi wow SSR is in Vagabond and simultaneously filming both dramas. WOW he needs to share his time management skills lol! and will he play a villain? 

 

SSR or his manager needs to share time management tips and how to multitask :lol:. According to the description he is not a villain. But we never know. Its fully preproduced though, so the story can be considered cast in stone for now. Hohohoho

 

I'm excited for today's ep. Its near the end. Fuhhh. We survived so far, let's finish this! Aja!

 

Ari and Sojin! Ari is on a roll..she's posting pics with the senior cast members~

 

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35 minutes ago, Kasmic said:

Here's the preview with eng subs

 

Hahahaha

 

I didn't expect anyone else to blow up the palace really. It must be Mama. She is extra and likes explosions lol

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39 minutes ago, katakwasabi said:

 

Hahahaha

 

I didn't expect anyone else to blow up the palace really. It must be Mama. She is extra and likes explosions lol

Yes, ED has blown up that podium many times lol! Im surprise it's still standing :tounge_wink:

This time Hyuk saves Sunni not Bin. This preview is too cruel, not a mention of Bin. :crazy:

 

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Someone in DC counted (and made gifs) of the kiss scenes between LH & SN. To think they got a total of 5 kisses (preview included) and Bin got none made me sad. 

 

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They are both so very cute together though...

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Lots of people (me included :P) wanted JNR & SSR to be in another drama again soon. But can I also wish she gets to pair up with CJH in a a different drama as well.

 

Note: Despite her petite frame, JNR actually looks good with tall guys. SSR, CJH, Jang Ki Yong and soon LSY?

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54 minutes ago, Super Gal99 said:

No more super handsome face = no more motivation ...wawaawaa:sleepy:

Welcome back @Super Gal99 :blush: 

 

If theres Kdrama theres always a handsome face... but will def miss this one.

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I love his posture and that smirk :wub:

 

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Why do writers love to waste potential actors :sweatingbullets:

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The preview show A Ri wish to go out with her parents JUST ONCE PLEASE.

 

so, is this means if the end of SUNNY AND HYUK?? 

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Today is the countdown for the finale, and I'm not so sure what to feel from the preview. It seems that the table has turned and that Hyuk will be the one saving Sunny this time as he's actually going to be there. I wonder how ED is going to blow things up this time around... Using the old fancy godfather clock method again? :joy:

 

From the get-go, I didn't ship anyone and I still don't think I'm shipping anyone for that matter. I actually felt that Soo-jin and NWS was quite adorable together, despite his awkwardness around her. I think a lot of us are unhappy that CJH isn't here for the final 4 episodes but I think that I'll carry on watching because I was to see the ending. No matter if Sunny doesn't end up with anyone, or ends up with someone- I think I'll be okay with whatever outcome is the end at this point. I'm not saying that I no longer have expectations for TLE but I'm more so waiting for the ending... 

 

However, I'd like to say that I do hope that JNR and SSR continues to play their roles strong and finish well. I sincerely hope to see their collaboration again (hopefully in a romcom role perhaps? And not SSR as a villain?) Moreover, I hope that people won't bash them for what the writer(s) have/had done with the script! Let's support TLE until the end and see the ending together. :heart:

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1 hour ago, Super Gal99 said:

No more super handsome face = no more motivation ...wawaawaa:sleepy:

 

@Super Gal99 , your gifs come with new insights to me.

 

So, Oh Sunny was just crushing on Mr. Bin because he is so handsome...She's definitely not in love with Na Wang Shik. :lol:  

 

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This is Writer-nim asking us to overlook all the sweet moments... :D

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And this is PD-nim trying to make us understand that delicious water is the most important focus in that scene...:P

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1 hour ago, nikki7 said:

Lots of people (me included :P) wanted JNR & SSR to be in another drama again soon. But can I also wish she gets to pair up with CJH in a a different drama as well.

 

Note: Despite her petite frame, JNR actually looks good with tall guys. SSR, CJH, Jang Ki Yong and soon LSY?

 

Hahaha. I want them in a romcom too after funny-Hyuk started to emerge. Me: i'm fine if they don't end up together in this, this is not what TLE is about. Just cast SSR-JNR in another romcom and give me full blown funny romcom scenes! Lol. 

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I've heard a lot of good reviews of JNR-CJH in Fated to Love. I haven't watched the drama yet. Hopefully they get to be paired in another drama too. Hehe

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53 minutes ago, Kasmic said:

Why do writers love to waste potential actors :sweatingbullets:

 

Maybe its time korea start to adopt preproduced dramas with a fixed script. It seems waste of potential happens when a script is not fully written but plans for production is already in place. Huhuhu. This reminds me of drama 'On-Air', which I might even rewatch. I recall it was a good drama about what happens in the production of a drama and the entertainment industry. 

 

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2 hours ago, xprosperity said:

Today is the countdown for the finale, and I'm not so sure what to feel from the preview. It seems that the table has turned and that Hyuk will be the one saving Sunny this time as he's actually going to be there. I wonder how ED is going to blow things up this time around... Using the old fancy godfather clock method again? :joy:

 

From the get-go, I didn't ship anyone and I still don't think I'm shipping anyone for that matter. I actually felt that Soo-jin and NWS was quite adorable together, despite his awkwardness around her. I think a lot of us are unhappy that CJH isn't here for the final 4 episodes but I think that I'll carry on watching because I was to see the ending. No matter if Sunny doesn't end up with anyone, or ends up with someone- I think I'll be okay with whatever outcome is the end at this point. I'm not saying that I no longer have expectations for TLE but I'm more so waiting for the ending... 

 

However, I'd like to say that I do hope that JNR and SSR continues to play their roles strong and finish well. I sincerely hope to see their collaboration again (hopefully in a romcom role perhaps? And not SSR as a villain?) Moreover, I hope that people won't bash them for what the writer(s) have/had done with the script! Let's support TLE until the end and see the ending together. :heart:

 

Yes! I didnt ship anyone but i am very supportive of Hyuk and I did not hide my support as many here might notice :lol:. I really want him to reform but gave up after he went cray2 again and again lol. 

 

I suppose stellar performance from the remaining cast can be expected in the remaining 4 episodes. And I too hope that people won't bash them for what the writer(s) have/had done with the script~

 

Good luck to all for the 4 final eps!

I have survived 48 eps of TLE, what more harm can another 4 eps make? So bring it on!!!!

 

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Now..can any writer/producer cast these two in a romcom. Pretty please~ Ahahahaha

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Hi guys....

 

Still searching for a stable live streaming for TLE...

Hope somebody would dm me link for alternative live straming... 

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