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[Drama 2016] Moon Lovers ❤ Scarlet Heart Ryeo, 달의 연인-보보경심 려 \^0^/ Soompi Kdrama 2016 Winner

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I don't believe Lady Hae died from heartbreak. She had Tuberculosis, last stage. Her husband may not have loved her as she wanted but he loved her in his own way and respected her and also her "You two are so foolish" was said lovingly like giving them her blessing to be together. She found it foolish that the two were trying to deny their feelings and keep their distance for her when she herself tried so many times to push them together. Since I love WW and WS equally, I can see very clearly what the story is doing. Lady Hae's death is not the last nail in the coffin for WW-HS, HS will not say goodbye to WW and concentrate on WS right now. It's the doorway for them to burst through and be a hurdle for the real OTP's lovestory. Our OTP needs some real competition to become epic and each others soulmate. WW and his love will be that and yes, he does genuinely love her but for HS it's more like a hero worship+crush. HS is going to feel really guilty because technically she will have lead him on before her feelings changed and she chose our WS. Anyway, WW and HS will be a beautiful short poem ..the real story is our SoSoo's and until that starts, I am more than happy to enjoy WW and his love for HS while watching our tough as nails So soften and fall for Soo even more, ditto with Soo for So.

So I was watching both the previews and I think I can predict somewhat what will happen in 6 and 7th episode. I noticed WW and HS holding hands and smiling. I believe this is the stage where they are happy and in the "We are about to be married" stage. I think WW believes his mom has asked the Hae clan for permission to marry Soo and maybe she had but YH (& maybe Queen Simplycrazy) will intervene to get Soo married to someone else instead. Or maybe the Hae clan already has Soo's marriage planned and Lady's Hae's death was their time to get HS back much to YH's happiness. The princes will be against that and will try to stop it but will be unable to. With WW and WS's help, HS will run away from her own marriage ..maybe dressed as the maid hence our OTP in the cottage wearing those clothes. WW halfway and then WS so that no one suspects WW and Hae clan doesnot become their enemy. This scenario would also explain the scene of WS injured and HS running towards him. Maybe they came to find her there and attacked WS. HS may decide to leave the clan if given a choice between saving WS and going with them. I think they will decide to banish her, leaving her with no family or power whatsoever. Remember before this, HS was still a part of their clan and hence ties  with Hae would have still continued even after Lady Hae's death. With the renouncement, HS would have no choice but to be a slave in the castle.

 

OK my prediction may have a lot of holes in it because it's 2 am here and I may not be making much sense. LOL.

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17 minutes ago, lavender2love said:

Hi @MadraRua ...Your bringing back the snow scene from BBJX just jolted me..... and then the snow scene from MLSH transported me back to Goreyeo times. Only the pure white snow is the common factor .  From the very first episode of  ML, I have decided that it is perilous to make a parallel of the 2 dramas. Got to watch ML in a very Korean context, ( BBJX is history steeped , the Palace is a place of intrigues and is deadly. You don't mess with Emperor Kangxi. Rouxi is incomparable ) MLSH ( sorry to hurt anyone's feelings, is feather weight light. The name Scarlet Heart shouldn't be named in the same breath... vast difference in so many areas. Personal opinion only so hold your horses .... < dodging missiles >

 

I don't think you'll find many missiles coming your way, always good to hear a discerning opinion. It's a study in contrasts that's for sure. Although I like both scenes equally. In Bu Bu Jing Xin they are walking together side by side ,treading new ground and it was 8th Prince who joined her. In Scarlet Heart Ryeo, she is following in his footsteps, afraid to break new ground but content for him to take the lead. You really can't make a parallel between the two, only in the most broadest sense. I wouldn't try to do that. But I thought the two scenes complimented one another in breathtaking beauty. That's why I posted them together. Other than that I wasn't thinking too deeply. dunno-crazy-rabbit-emoticon.gif 

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On 07/09/2016 at 1:52 AM, bebebisous33 said:

@MadraRua  

Sorry I copied your wonderful gifs for two reasons. I would like to explain the symbolism behind these two scenes. I hope, you don't mind.

I really love the symbolism of this two scenes: the eclipse. This represents the meeting of the sun and the moon. Actually, the eclipse symbolises the fated meeting of Wang So and Hae Soo. When Hae Jin is disappearing in the darkness, she is actually on her way to meet Wang So. Then Wang So appears riding on his horse and the sun begins to shine again behind his back. This scene reveals that this is the start for Wang So to shine. First, he is in the dark, but later, the sun shines more and more. The moon that made the sun disappear makes the sun appear even brighter than before. Actually, Wang So has no idea about his future and he is about to meet his soulmate. As conclusion, the sun representing Wang So will meet the person who will change his fate: Hae Soo. She is the one who will turn Wang So into a king. I don't think, the director didn't have this in mind. The reason why I think that the sun embodies Wang So and the moon Hae Soo is because in Europe, the sun was used as symbol for the King (Louis 14. is called the sun king = roi soleil) and secondly, the cycle of the moon corresponds to the menstrual cycle too. 

I love the symbolism behind the eclipse because it goes even deeper. This event doesn't occur every year and it is rare so that their meeting looks more like fate. Besides, although both planets (sun/moon) seem to embrace each other, there is actually a distance which also exists in our story. Hae Soo comes from 21st century and the distance is portraied by the difference of the time, as Wang So is definitely someone from 10th century. 

@lavender2love I am glad that you decided to join this thread. :wub:Here is one of my analysis!

 

Ahhhh @bebebisous33...  the wedding's over. all the partying and celebration is done.... only waiting to throw a baby shower after nine months... ... kiddin'

I love eclipses ..... and I love your analysis too. Well expressed. The appearance of an eclipse spooks people and the soothsayer will stake his reputation on it. The first picture is foreboding.... the land is shrouded. Bad fortune and disaster stalk. You are right. When the darkness gives way to the brightness of the sun , the shining star belongs to Wang So.... his time has come to reign ... and to love ( romance is the pillar of-drama ) It's such a dramatic entrance, his magnificent horse bearing its majestic rider. As the heavenly bodies align Korea enters a new era..

Interesting ....your analysis on the sun and moon embracing ....... over 10 centuries.... mind boggling.

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@bbygjjang

 I was abt to sleep but thouGht to read ur post and glad I did...

Ur explanation abt WW being Nice man but not Good man Is one perfect word to put for his character. And i could not help but to write somemore..

He Is nice.. very nicce at some places but he keeps his calculative side to near to his real self that prevents from becoming a good man for anyone. Why I say anyone.. I dont think he was ever good towards his own wife. His wife was at such stage of her disease and he had no Inkling of how serious she was, alL he eyyeing was HS (may be It was not shown him taking care of his wife). Like BA explained IN epi 5 to HS abt WW  and her Silent advancements towards each other So how a person Being pretended to be a nice man can Ignore his ailing wife and can eye another gal (sorry being harsh here but I was sad and Angry on WW. May be I am the only one feeling so..sorry IF other do not feel same way)

Might be tomorrrow IF he gets another gal whom he starts to likE he will do same with HS. He can decide what he wants to do but cant take action to get what he decided. I found him with less self determination to fight for what you want. May be cause of all family pressure. 

And cause of that only he cant pursue HS actively. He can surely eye her, can smile at her sily acts, can enjoy watching her but next moment he Is being asked to DO he'd back off. And this cant be love and only Infatuation... and even his eyes would do the same. Scene where he Is looking at HS making soap the moments his wife looks at him his eyes flutters as IF someone caught him red handed...thats not symptom of being In love.

WS acts and does not bother about who will say what. Be IT temple carnage or taking CP place during rituals. He listens his own HeArts voice and follows what It says to IGnore rest of the voices. He IS going to do same IN case of HS once he Asks his heart and gets response as ITa love. He gonna fight this world to be with her cause HS the only person let alone gal who looked IN his eyes without flinching for a second and at the same time she gives him what he starved all his life those words of care/concern/question. A small kid(and adult males too at home..they are just kids in bigger body) always carves his moms(and in case of adults from the female of their life they consider as imp as amother) care when he gets sick, concern when he IS suposed to be ready for something big and question once he gets back home. And she gives him al three Care by telling him his hands get wounded on stone piling scsne, concern when He IS abt to leave for palace and question abt the temple carnage on hill top. So whatever he has missed IN life she can give him all and that too with no expectation attached cause she has no feelings for him yet. And once those will be mutual a Nd loud aand clear these will take the world to be together.

Acting wise... I love IU and her Uniue expressions. She fits HSs role so well that I Cant think of anyone else playing IT

LJK... to expalin abt his acting would be showing lamp to the Sun. So ITs all understood and well acceoted How good actor he IS.

Side note... my cell has some wired problem all my Is are caps.

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1 hour ago, solelylurking said:

Thoughts after spending time watching bts, interview, cover shooting and etcs:

If there's a report that IU breaking up with her boo and start going out with Kang Ha Neul I won't be surprised. That guy is clearly fall for her. No wonder he was able to deliver the role beautifully. His eyes in real life is no different from Wang Wook in drama whenever he saw her haha. Beside KHN is a sweet heart, his real personality is different from Wook.

I love the scene when they interview him, IU, LJK and Baekhyun and IU get the question who taking care of her the most among these princes. KHN suddenly busy cleaning up his pants and looking kind of down and jelous when IU picked LJK hahaha. 

I'm all for him not getting the girl in drama but getting her in real life. But I don't think the feeling is mutual or is IU just so good in hiding it? 

My fave OTP, fighting!

Oh my God.. Can LJK get any handsomer? His skin is insane and he looks like he pops out from a manga/manhwa. Those Goryeo robes and clothes only magnify it. I think W production should cast him to be Kang Chul but that would mean I can't see him in SHR so I take it back. He can switch between manly charm and boyish attraction easily. I nominated him to win the SK's Oscar. 

Monday is still far away in the horizon, eclipers. I guess we have to get by with what we have. 

IU already has a boyfriend but I did notice how KHN is always hovering over her in the parties and conferences etc. As for LJK's manga look, I thought the same as you that he would have been the perfect cast in W as Kang Chul. He could have done it because MLSHR is preproduced and he finished filming end of June, but he had many photoshoots on the schedule and other commitments.  Hope he finds another great character role soon. Waiting for his Chinese movie "Never Said Goodbye" to show up somewhere for streaming.

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I don't know if anyone posted this yet and sorry if someone has :| 

In an interview with Toggle, Kang Ha Neul was asked:

Which actor is the most prince-like in real life? He chose Lee Junki.

If he could switch his body with another prince in the drama, who would it be? He chose Nam Joohyuk. (If I was a man, I would do the same *o* That man is goals.)

If he could bring a cast member back to Goryeo era, who would he bring? He chose IU. (So cuteeeeeeeeeee.)

Also, what is the best and worst part about being an actor? He talks about immersing yourself in the character and the pressures of leaving a good impression on viewers.

Here is the link to the video and article http://entertainment.toggle.sg/en/whats-buzzing/article/kang-ha-neul-every-moment-with-baek-hyun-and-ji-soo-was-fun-6660766, he explains each answer in more detail. :D

P.S. Let me know if I'm not supposed to post links like this one. I've read over the rules and it doesn't say I can't. However, in case I missed something, message me and I'll delete it. I don't wanna be reported. :sweatingbullets:

 

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What if during another eclipse, both Ha Jin and Wang So get transported back/to the 21st century O.O? So basically the C-version ending, but this time, Wang So does recognize Hae Soo in the future~~

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44 minutes ago, JadeL said:

I know Kang Ha Neul is not the lead, but I just LOVE him!!! I love this couple!!! 

 

OMO. Thank you @JadeL That video was just perfect -- the timing and transitions...the music. Okay...I am DEFINITELY on the SoSoo ship, but watching this....didn't they look just perfect together???  Okay. Back to work for me. Got enough of a SHR fix to continue. :sweatingbullets:

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3 minutes ago, Wendy Wang said:

What if during another eclipse, both Ha Jin and Wang So get transported back/to the 21st century O.O and wang so(who's name obviously won't be wang so since he'll be taking the body of his reincarnation)? So basically the C-version ending will be added, but this time, Wang So does recognize Hae Soo in the future~~

 that will be the best and happy ending ever ~

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52 minutes ago, MadraRua said:

 

I don't think you'll find many missiles coming your way, always good to hear a discerning opinion. It's a study in contrasts that's for sure. Although I like both scenes equally. In Bu Bu Jing Xin they are walking together side by side ,treading new ground and it was 8th Prince who joined her. In Scarlet Heart Ryeo, she is following in his footsteps, afraid to break new ground but content for him to take the lead. You really can't make a parallel between the two, only in the most broadest sense. I wouldn't try to do that. But I thought the two scenes complimented one another in breathtaking beauty. That's why I posted them together. Other than that I wasn't thinking too deeply. dunno-crazy-rabbit-emoticon.gif 

 

Yes...... good observation..... one walking together.... TREADING NEW GROUND. The other ... following ... AFRAID TO BREAK NEW GROUND. I like that. He's quite the teasing Prince ..... almost cheeky. You gif making skills are good and you are prolific.... I always like their slow-move or jerky movement.

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4 hours ago, MadraRua said:

And I just had to include the snow scene from Bu Bu Jing Xin with this.... it's so beautiful too

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New member, old lurker here. 

Wow the Chinese version seems much more serious than the Kdrama. I am glad they got IU on board and made the show a bit less serious as of now. IU makes me laugh with her antics.She is hilarious. This week's scene where she helps out 14th prince was so funny and my fav. I like how she is bonding with all the princes. No wonder princess is jealous of all the attention HS is getting.

 

I don't watch Chinese dramas at all. So the historic drama hairstyle for guys seems funny to me. Bald in front, long braid at back.No offence meant to any Chinese members or drama fans here.

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33 minutes ago, lavender2love said:

Yes...... good observation..... one walking together.... TREADING NEW GROUND. The other ... following ... AFRAID TO BREAK NEW GROUND. I like that. He's quite the teasing Prince ..... almost cheeky. You gif making skills are good and you are prolific.... I always like their slow-move or jerky movement.

 

Prolific .... hmmm I'm not sure if that's good or bad LOL but I thank you anyway red-fox-emoticon-03.gif

Just a heads up for those who would like to create their own gifs but are not sure where to start, you can check out my tutorial

32 minutes ago, gobsmack said:

 

New member, old lurker here. 

Wow the Chinese version seems much more serious than the Kdrama. I am glad they got IU on board and made the show a bit less serious as of now. IU makes me laugh with her antics.She is hilarious. This week's scene where she helps out 14th prince was so funny and my fav. I like how she is bonding with all the princes. No wonder princess is jealous of all the attention HS is getting.

 

I don't watch Chinese dramas at all. So the historic drama hairstyle for guys seems funny to me. Bald in front, long braid at back.No offence meant to any Chinese members or drama fans here.

 

It's serious in parts but has it's lighter moments. But it definitely gets more serious towards the end. I'm waiting on tenterhooks for that in this version. Don't let the hairstyle put you off. You really don't notice it after a while, and while I'm not a huge chinese drama fan, Bu Bu Jing Xin is a stellar drama, well worth checking out. And welcome to the chat. hi-onion-head-emoticon.gif

Edit: To whoever updated the synopsis on this drama... LOVE IT... you even included Hae Soo smiley face :D:D:D 

WELCOME Eclipses ! \^0^/ ❤ Mon-Tue 11 PM KST ❤ Korean Adaptation of the Original Chinese novel 'Bu Bu Jing Xin/ The Scarlet Heart'. 
 

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that taking off mask and pulling in after kiss gif....AHHH fangirl moment :D is that from a longer preview?

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Hi guyss...At last I watched the ep 5 with eng sub! I really have to say It bothered me so much! when watching it I actually bothered by Soo and Wook relation. the way they act without thinking there is another woman in there. Actually I got angry to Hae Soo bc she was openly flirting with him without thinking the madame. ıts same for 8th prince. ıt is actually similar to what her best friend and her boyfriend did to her! but I liked how the story written like this. this story will also be her grown-up story...matured in mind and learn relations. sure ıt will also help her at modern era.

but of course Soo and Wook current love story is another disturbing matter. sure we have shippers and ıts normal bc they look like they are so much in love and in love pain. ıf you never know the story, you directly say 8th prince and the Soo are the destined ones bc she can't love another guy quickly while she is in love like this but she will fall in love with 4th prince and maybe some other princes too! thats actually the weirdest part of the story and I hope they make transitions so well than people won't make stupid comments like how her heart can change that quickly.

So and Hae Soo relation developing in a good speed. maybe her real love will be him bc like prince 4th said he will love someone who would love this ugly face, who would treasure him with what he have!...he will be her last and real love bc at this process she will learn to love someone with his lacking, she will learn to treasure someone's character more than his face! thats the true love and actually I think she sent to past for this reason!. learn about values and love. and maybe the things that she faced at modern era is actually related with this. thats why she lost her boyfriend to her best friend!...this is a training camp to her. and that astromony guy looks like he knows her..that was creepy and I think ıts gonna be so interesting to solve this mystery...

about YeonHwa, she is a snake...I thought she really have feelings for Wang So but her interest is actually make him love her with changing him to human..like she said I really like to turn a animal to a human!...she will never love him with this way and thats why WS and she can never be happy couple. he want someone like him with everything he have. 

and I felt really bad for madame..ahh she was a amazing woman. I'm sad she died. and Soo gave promise her about take caring 8th prince and so we know actually real Hae Soo will be end with 8th prince while Go Ha Jin will end with prince 4th reincarnated version at modern era..actually both woman and both man will find their fated ones. in past or modern era.

ahh and sorry for long essay! :rolleyes:

 

 

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3 hours ago, solelylurking said:

Thoughts after spending time watching bts, interview, cover shooting and etcs:

If there's a report that IU breaking up with her boo and start going out with Kang Ha Neul I won't be surprised. That guy is clearly fall for her. No wonder he was able to deliver the role beautifully. His eyes in real life is no different from Wang Wook in drama whenever he saw her haha. Beside KHN is a sweet heart, his real personality is different from Wook.

 

Please pray that such a report never happens, the poor girl gets enough hate already for absolutely trivial reasons, imagine how much she'll get if netizens think she broke up with her boyfriend of almost 3 years for him..... I don't want her to get any more hate. If they date, let it be only if she breaks up with her bf (I don't wish for such a thing, her happiness comes first) and only a long time after that. And preferably with privacy so that they can date in peace and not get all kinds of comments.

 

but really, Kang Ha Neul's gaze when he looks at IU or poses with her is really just amazing. I saw his past dramas and he gives those melting looks to all his female costars in the dramas (Ha Yeon Soo in Monstar, Im Joo Eun and Kim Ji Won in Heirs, Nam Ji Hyun in Angel Eyes), but this time it really feels like he himself fell for IU a little bit and used that feeling to add to his performance as Wook.

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