[Drama 2016] Moon Lovers ❤ Scarlet Heart Ryeo, 달의 연인-보보경심 려 \^0^/ Soompi Kdrama 2016 Winner

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8 minutes ago, bebebisous33 said:

Sorry but I see it differently. Actually, he is also against the arranged marriage with Hae Soo. He knows how she feels and thinks. So he is defending her by saying that if she gets married, she will die. So he doesn't support the marriage.

 

This is the first time that Wang So is smiling to Hae Soo and not hiding it. Even at the end of the episode 4, he tried to hide his smile. When he asked her if she wanted to be his woman/person, he only had a micro-expression (the beginning of a smile, but he suppressed it). Yet here, it is different. He shows that he is happy to see her here.  And he even hugged her in a certain way... as if he wanted to have the hug Wang Jung had received before.

 

I agree with you.. When we feel comfortable to another, we will show who we really are. That's why WS smiling to HS.. And I love how WS starting to show that he cares for HS  \^0^/

[KdramaSwimmer 14,570]

@LyraYoo thats one beautiful creation.

I am procrastinating watching epi#5 and its so heart breaking. Reason...once I watch it there would not be anything to look forward to eagerly till next Monday and moreover there was not much WS..... and I am still building my courage to watch the episode and then whole 4 days like someone dying out of thirst with no water drop in vicinity... and only oasis would be those previews and gifs other goodies here...

guys any way to help during coming 4 days ?

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16 minutes ago, KdramaSwimmer said:

 

guys any way to help during coming 4 days ?

 re-watch the 5 episodes?  One episode per day until the broadcast of ep 6

you changed your profile pic to that jaw gif \^0^/, you're indeed the "jun ki" junkie 

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1 hour ago, Carmarie said:

You are correct in your recap of the C version.  I am surprised that they did not make Soo's character know more Korean history.  Soo is an hairdresser/make-up artist in the 21st century; however, she could still know Korean history and understand that she can alter history with her words and actions.

There are similarities between the C-version and the K-version; however, because the dynasties are different and the histories are different, the writers were correct in not trying to stick to close to the original.  I like the fact that I do not have to make any comparisons between the two, they are both stand on their own merit.  

The 8th Prince's wife loved him and she died while he was carrying her.  It was such a sad but a great scene. We find out that the 8th prince did love his wife; however, he was shaken by Hae-Soo.  His wife is sickly and fragile and Hae-Soo is full of life.  His wife, has become a burden to him, not only because of her illness, but because of the times in which she lived.  Hae-Soo, being from the 21st century is liberated and use to doing for herself; therefore, she does not rely on men to do for her.  It is liberating to the 8th Prince to watch and interact with this young woman, who is so outgoing and self reliant. She appeals to many of the princes because of her outgoing nature. Even the young prince has a crush on her. 

I think Soo will get together with the 8th prince briefly; but ultimately she will fall deeply in love with the 4th prince.

Question:  In the C-version, did Ruoxi marry the 14th prince or just move into his household?  I have to watch those episodes again.

my response to your question re: 14th and Ruoxi:

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I believe they were unofficially married. I say unofficial because 4th/emperor stated that he never entered her name into their family registry... so their marriage was never recorded and officially recognized.

 

I finished watching ep 5 last night and wow, it was a bit of an emotional roller coaster regarding lady hae ;____;

quick thoughts: even though it was an episode mainly centered on 8th, I loved the 4th/haesoo moments that were tossed in:

squee @ 4th being the only prince to understand haesoo's response to 8th!!! omg <3 and 4th blocking the doorway so the queen wouldn't notice haesoo AAHHHH <333)

does the astronomer know more about haesoo than he is letting on? so suspicious!  anticipating more scenes between them.

I was a little disappointed that the snow scene with 8th wasn't as beautiful as the c-version. (I know I shouldn't compare, but...) of course, this version had its own charm, such as showing how playful 8th can be, but I still felt it was a bit lacking. I hope they show more care with the future boat scene...

I'll have to catch up on this thread later. you guys move too quickly, LOL 

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14 minutes ago, Berou said:

 re-watch the 5 episodes?  One episode per day until the broadcast of ep 6

you changed your profile pic to that jaw gif \^0^/, you're indeed the "jun ki" junkie 

yup started epi5 just now...and yes that rewatch plan looks promising to spend the week with some sanity without going crazy missing LJK or WS...ah i cant decide whom i missing more

hehehe...that gif change was not intentional.. I was testing how big should be the dimensions for the gif to look good as profile pic...and i just backed off and when I refreshed tada it was gif there also i found it pretty good to decide keep it there...

yeah JunKi Junkie that my frnd gave me nickname and m loving it....

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just now i go to dramacool & dramabeans website

i never know Moon Lover Scarlet Heart really2 hits & hot at dramacool & dramabeans

this drama got fully support from international fans

daebak!

 

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46 minutes ago, bebebisous33 said:

 

This is the first time that Wang So is smiling to Hae Soo and not hiding it. Even at the end of the episode 4, he tried to hide his smile. When he asked her if she wanted to be his woman/person, he only had a micro-expression (the beginning of a smile, but he suppressed it). Yet here, it is different. He shows that he is happy to see her here.  And he even hugged her in a certain way... as if he wanted to have the hug Wang Jung had received before.

So true ! And what a smile  go Gaga over it every time I see it .... Can't wait for upcoming episodes when their love story will really take off ..

[minmar 4,909]

I enjoy the fact that all of us Jun Ki junkies are gathered here in one place to take great enjoyment out of the little things in life...like watching the man eat. 

 

Imagine sitting and watching him shave .......or seeing him come in all sweaty from running and downing water....

Oh dear GOD.... the images.   

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15 minutes ago, Niki Azia said:

just now i go dramacool & dramabeans website

i never know Moon Lover Scarlet Heart really2 hits & hot at dramacool & dramabeans

this drama got fully support from international fans

daebak!

 

 

And Soompi too. The rate of increase in the number of views is surprisingly rabid. If this continues we may reach the 400K mark in no time. Waves to silent Eclipses ! 

I guess youku views reach 500 million already? Or it slow down ? (cant view the site on mobile so  not sure for now)

Indeed the reception of international fans is overwhelming.

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And I just had to include the snow scene from Bu Bu Jing Xin with this.... it's so beautiful too

 

 

 

 

 

@KdramaSwimmer As you can see I make gifs to pass the time  It works plus I get to rewatch the episodes always a plus  

 

 

 

 

Edited September 7, 2016 by MadraRua
fixed gif

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Just came by to share a MV I found... 

I surrender to Wang So

 

credit to the owner

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2 hours ago, mimi said:

Aprilslily said " got the impression that HS was mostly oblivious to WW's affection and thought of it as him being kind to her, and that the guilt that she felt was from her finding out that everyone knew about her one-sided crush...including her beloved cousin, and that the appearance as that they were flaunting their flirting in front of her cousin (which they were) with out her really knowing about it.  Much like she was oblivious that her friend was dating her boyfriend in the 21st century. "

I beg to differ with you    HS may be 16 years in Goreyo but she is an adult in the modern world... I think there were plenty of scenes showing how she has a least a crush on WW and that she's totally aware that WW is falling in love with her and she has been enjoying it albeit with a little guilt towards her unni. Ironically she is the one betraying her unni. And her case now is much worse than her friend /boyfriend because in Goryo she is an orphan and  her cousin has offered her  care, love  & protection. She's been like a mom to her yet although she is feeling a little guilty she's definitely acting on her feelings and responding to WW who is not a boyfriend but a husband  For WW and his wife , they're Goryo people but the case is not the same for HS. Human beings can be selfish when it was her friend it felt like a betrayal to her and she was so devastated  but when she does it  (in a worse fashion and what is worse is that she just went through a betrayal experience...thinking of it HS is awful in this aspect ...no empathy for her unni)  she calls  her 'betrayal' not being able to control her heart/feelings (she mentioned that to WS and to herself  in bed when we see that she totally understood that the poem from WW was a love poem and not about landscape)...HS is not an inexperienced teenage she an adult (in modern times) and she's been acting irresponsibly as far as her crush on WW is concerned and given her recent betrayal experience (in modern world) she's been awful towards her kindhearted unni ....irony  

Thinking of  it this is scary stuff: HS's totally awful and unacceptable betrayal of her unni is made to  seem 'pretty' to us and many of us may even have been enjoying the whole  thing ...I guess that's how the news also operate when they manipulate public opinion and brain wash us to think /feel the way they want regardless of the facts....perception perception perception ....if we don't wake up and question our perception against the facts, it's so easy to trick and control the mindless 

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3 minutes ago, MadraRua said:

 

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And I just had to include the snow scene from Bu Bu Jing Xin with this.... it's so beautiful too

 

 

@KdramaSwimmer As you can see I make gifs to pass the time  It works plus I get to rewatch the episodes always a plus  

 

yeah got it unni..

i have downloaded all ammunition already (apps to cut video, to create gif etc.) will soon start bombording the thread with the outcome...

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20 minutes ago, minmar said:

I enjoy the fact that all of us Jun Ki junkies are gathered here in one place to take great enjoyment out of the little things in life...like watching the man eat. 

 

Imagine sitting and watching him shave .......or seeing him come in all sweaty from running and downing water....

Oh dear GOD.... the images.   

that was so apt to describe the situation here or i'd say everywhere in front of cell/laptop/tab having this thread opened.

@bold that can be imagine only at your own risk cause your heart can beat more than you can handle and brain can stop thinking for some time. so be prepared. So if we will be lucky enough some day *i am in my la la la land*

Another input...can we name SoSoo as Milky couple as someone mentioned in previous pages Susu means milk in indonesian language (not sure if i recalled correct if not please correct)

And then IU herslf looked like as white as Milk....and Junki ssi is just another synonym of as fllawless as milk texture...

@meahri_1 as you have opened the poll for name can this be included in another poll alongside SoSoo..?

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I'm grateful to the casting director. The actors are so well distributed in their roles. The cast fit perfectly with theirs characters. And those who have been so criticized have proven that they can do their job very well. Good for them!

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I have to say I hope WS becomes the CP he so deserves it and kick his mom out of the palace she's a real pieve of work the gall to say he was the reason for her being unfourtnate.. SMH 

I think WW don't love HS I think he's obessed and mistaken it for love he feels because she his wife cousins she automatically belongs to him and don't want her communicating with anyone of the other brothers he just as selfish as his sister..

Ok I watch both Saguek's clearly it;s more action in this thread but I can't understand the ratimgs do it have something to do with hardly anyo9ne able to watch not until it's up on a site..

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2 hours ago, Carmarie said:

You are correct in your recap of the C version.  I am surprised that they did not make Soo's character know more Korean history.  Soo is an hairdresser/make-up artist in the 21st century; however, she could still know Korean history and understand that she can alter history with her words and actions.

There are similarities between the C-version and the K-version; however, because the dynasties are different and the histories are different, the writers were correct in not trying to stick to close to the original.  I like the fact that I do not have to make any comparisons between the two, they are both stand on their own merit.  

The 8th Prince's wife loved him and she died while he was carrying her.  It was such a sad but a great scene. We find out that the 8th prince did love his wife; however, he was shaken by Hae-Soo.  His wife is sickly and fragile and Hae-Soo is full of life.  His wife, has become a burden to him, not only because of her illness, but because of the times in which she lived.  Hae-Soo, being from the 21st century is liberated and use to doing for herself; therefore, she does not rely on men to do for her.  It is liberating to the 8th Prince to watch and interact with this young woman, who is so outgoing and self reliant. She appeals to many of the princes because of her outgoing nature. Even the young prince has a crush on her. 

I think Soo will get together with the 8th prince briefly; but ultimately she will fall deeply in love with the 4th prince.

Question:  In the C-version, did Ruoxi marry the 14th prince or just move into his household?  I have to watch those episodes again.

Like you said both dynasty are two different and the time period is probably different from each other. To me I rather have them adapt a bit of the cversion but stay close to their history cause I'm very interesting in their politics. I'm wondering how the brothers will alley with each other. like in the cversion 4th had 13th by his side while 8th had 9, 10, and 14. I wonder how this one will be like? 

4th forbid any ceremony for Ruoxi to enter into 14th household but 14th ignore it and decorate Ruoxi room with some red since she was a bride. and she decided to cover her head in red cloth when she walk into the room. They were to people husband and wife in name.  4th never officiate Ruoxi as 14th concubine so she never was enter into the family registry

 

Do anybody know why did Lady Han got sick? I mean in the flashback she was full of life and happy. They never really went into depth as to when she got sick or how long :/

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4 hours ago, MadraRua said:

 

They're both good ships to sail. Though I'm biased from the c-version. It will always be 4th Prince for me. I couldn't even finish the movie. 

I'd be lying if I said Wook didn't sway me. He had very expressive eyes and seems to adore Hae Soo. Though I'm not sure that will ultimately be enough. I don't think he'll put Hae Soo first before his political ambitions and familial duties. How did the arranged marriage get that far? Surely he should have stepped in sooner to stop it. It's reminds me of when Hae Soo was being whipped. He allowed two swaths with his hesitancy to get involved and in the end it was someone else who forcefully stopped Yeon Hwa. 

Which brings me back to So-Soo or Hae-So. 4th Prince, Wang So, has no such hesitancy concerning Hae So. He doesn't have to concern himself with familial duties - they would rather he not exist so he can pretty much do as he wants. He said without any reservations that she belonged to him... swoon... so has no problem expressing his feelings. He was the only one to decipher her smiley too. That's show they're on a par with each other and already have an understanding of the other. 

And regarding which one is the decoy and which has the real Hae Soo - Wang Wook wouldn't go that far to squirrel her away somewhere, he'd be afraid of the consequences but there's no such concern with Wang So. He will go all out to save her from that wretched plan. Another bonus in his favour. 

Lastly... Wang So needs her more than Wook does. He says he wants someone to treasure him... she would do that. It wouldn't be about ambition or status with her which is what he needs. He's had such a rough life that I feel he's deserves to get the chance. Wook had a chance at love but just kinda blew it for me. There's no doubt that Lady Hae was the perfect wife and loved him deeply. I know you can't force feelings, but surely after a length of time some sort of love should grow. She shouldn't have died with that emptiness in her heart. 

 

@skxz I also think like @MadraRua. Wang So is for me ship to sail for many reasons:

- the way he was introduced (he is represented by the raising sun). So the first scene illustrates his future. 

- but the way he interacts with Hae Soo.

Not only he helped her in the woods (the incident with Wang Jung) and the beating, he also stopped her from slapping the prince Wang Eun. Everyone was watching the scene but it could have become dangerous for Hae Soo, if she hadn't been stopped as Wang Eun could have got more than a blue eye. If she had slapped him, she would have humiliated him as prince. The entire time, Wang Wook was watching the whole scene and didn't intervene. After her action, Hae Soo is confronted with harsh reality. She must face the king's punishment. Wang Wook's position couldn't save her. Wang So helped her indirectly, when he stopped her. In my opinion, Wang Wook has been raised too much by biding to the rules and customs so that he would expect from Hae Soo (if she was his wife) to act like lady Hae. However, Hae Soo comes from the 21st century and her sense of justice and moral is totally different. She is for equity and doesn't like the hierarchy system in that society. Wang Wook has learnt from early on that his duty is to protect his family, so that he has always to think about his family first therefore he will never put Hae Soo first. Sure, he asked her through the poem about her feelings, yet I had the impression, he would have kept their situation unchanged: flirting next to his wife. I don't think, he would have ever asked to marry Hae Soo since she doesn't come from a powerful family like lady Hae.  I know, lady Hae wanted him to marry her cousin, however she did that because she knew that she was dying. From my point of view, Hae Soo will be depressed after her cousin's death so that the princes will try to cheer her up. Even Wang Wook won't be able to do it himself first, because he is as devastated as Hae Soo first. He will feel guilty and only after a certain time, he will be able to approach Hae Soo again, yet this will be already too late. First, Hae Soo can't accept his feelings any longer (she feels that she had betrayed her only friend and family member), secondly Yeon Hwa has already arranged the marriage for her so that she can get rid of Hae Soo who seems to attract many princes.

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9 minutes ago, bebebisous33 said:

First, Hae Soo can't accept his feelings any longer (she feels that she had betrayed her only friend and family member), secondly Yeon Hwa has already arranged the marriage for her so that she can get rid of Hae Soo who seems to attract many princes.

 

Sorry to cut your post. I agree with all of it. This second to last line especially. I don't think she'll ever get over Lady Hae enough to marry Wang Wook. She'll never look at him the same way again. Like when they met at the lake and tried to take the blame of flirting from the other. She'll always think back to that and what 13th Prince said and feel ashamed. This is why I think we've seen the last of their ship from Hae Soo's point of view anyway. She'll think fondly of him but move on when she realises the depth of her feelings for Wang So. - I can't wait to see that ship in full sail. 

@KdramaSwimmer That's the spirit! Look forward to the bombardment  

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24 minutes ago, Immortal_Angel said:

Like you said both dynasty are two different and the time period is probably different from each other. To me I rather have them adapt a bit of the cversion but stay close to their history cause I'm very interesting in their politics. I'm wondering how the brothers will alley with each other. like in the cversion 4th had 13th by his side while 8th had 9, 10, and 14. I wonder how this one will be like? 

4th forbid any ceremony for Ruoxi to enter into 14th household but 14th ignore it and decorate Ruoxi room with some red since she was a bride. and she decided to cover her head in red cloth when she walk into the room. They were to people husband and wife in name.  4th never officiate Ruoxi as 14th concubine so she never was enter into the family registry

 

Do anybody know why did Lady Han got sick? I mean in the flashback she was full of life and happy. They never really went into depth as to when she got sick or how long :/

I think she died of a broken heart. Wang Wook was an exemplary husband, between them was understanding and respect but she knew he didn't love her. It is hard to live next to a person who don't share your feelings. And Lady Hae was a person full of love and sensitivity. The thought she's not beloved made her sick. At least that's what I think until we have other explanations. (If we will have them). Probably chapter Lady Hae is already closed.