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10 hours ago, bebebisous33 said:

@skxz I also think like @MadraRua. Wang So is for me ship to sail for many reasons:

- the way he was introduced (he is represented by the raising sun). So the first scene illustrates his future. 

- but the way he interacts with Hae Soo.

Not only he helped her in the woods (the incident with Wang Jung) and the beating, he also stopped her from slapping the prince Wang Eun. Everyone was watching the scene but it could have become dangerous for Hae Soo, if she hadn't been stopped as Wang Eun could have got more than a blue eye. If she had slapped him, she would have humiliated him as prince. The entire time, Wang Wook was watching the whole scene and didn't intervene. After her action, Hae Soo is confronted with harsh reality. She must face the king's punishment. Wang Wook's position couldn't save her. Wang So helped her indirectly, when he stopped her. In my opinion, Wang Wook has been raised too much by biding to the rules and customs so that he would expect from Hae Soo (if she was his wife) to act like lady Hae. However, Hae Soo comes from the 21st century and her sense of justice and moral is totally different. She is for equity and doesn't like the hierarchy system in that society. Wang Wook has learnt from early on that his duty is to protect his family, so that he has always to think about his family first therefore he will never put Hae Soo first. Sure, he asked her through the poem about her feelings, yet I had the impression, he would have kept their situation unchanged: flirting next to his wife. I don't think, he would have ever asked to marry Hae Soo since she doesn't come from a powerful family like lady Hae.  I know, lady Hae wanted him to marry her cousin, however she did that because she knew that she was dying. From my point of view, Hae Soo will be depressed after her cousin's death so that the princes will try to cheer her up. Even Wang Wook won't be able to do it himself first, because he is as devastated as Hae Soo first. He will feel guilty and only after a certain time, he will be able to approach Hae Soo again, yet this will be already too late. First, Hae Soo can't accept his feelings any longer (she feels that she had betrayed her only friend and family member), secondly Yeon Hwa has already arranged the marriage for her so that she can get rid of Hae Soo who seems to attract many princes.

@bebebisous33 As always chingu, you always see what I miss. You were so right Wang Wook did love his wife. I agree Hae Soo belongs with Wang So because with him she doesn't have to pretend and he will cherish her more than any of the princes there. Baek Ha and Eun will cherish and love her as family. They will be loyal to her til the end of the drama. She will play the role of helping them finding their true mates and be very happy.  I agree Wang Wook will never abandon those ideals and responsibilities for her because of how he was raised.  Your right He would have never married her but he would have taken her as a concubine and that would have offended Hae Soo. I believe once she falls for Wang So she would do anything for him because her love for him would be much much deeper and true. True love is loving that person faults and all, nothing would come between them.  love-onion-head-emoticon.giflove-onion-head-emoticon.gif 

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5 hours ago, Wendy Wang said:

What if during another eclipse, both Ha Jin and Wang So get transported back/to the 21st century O.O? So basically the C-version ending, but this time, Wang So does recognize Hae Soo in the future~~

I wouldn't mind seeing modern day version of Wang So. It would be nice if he could kick butt on the boyfriend and best friend who betrayed HS. That would be a wonderful ending @Wendy Wang

5 hours ago, briseis said:

Sitting on that rock overlooking the Palace, the home he was banished from, Wang So truly looks like the proverbial solitary wolf living in the moutains. However, his solitude is not of his own choosing - it was forced upon him by his own family. It feels kind of symbolic, with Hae Soo being chosen as the brave maiden who would venture to feed him when no one else does. His is such a deep loneliness that even Hae Soo can instinctively sense it and it’s what stops her in the end from leaving him there.

 

It says so much when he doesn’t even protest when she sits down next to him under the pretext of needing to bring back the dishes. Even he can see through her lame excuse, because first, no one would care for the dishes and second, he is more than capable to carry them back himself. And he is the one who begins to talk to her being adorably embarrassed in front of her about his outburst the previous night

“If it’s home, I should have a family.”

Hae Soo is the only person who always finds Wang So at his weakest or when he completely loses control of himself and his emotions, and even though he threatens her each time he has never ever truly hurt her, which is why she feels so safe around him and not being afraid to say everything she wants to him, The way Hae Soo doesn’t mince words and treats WS without any fear or akwardness actually allows him to relax around her and tell her things that are on his mind, things that he wouldn’t tell to anyone. Maybe even because he never had anyone who would listen to him in the first place.

 

Awww, the bashful, curious sideay glances he keeps giving her! Plus they are really like two peas in a pod when they both adorably try to distract each other’s attention with a change of topic.

 

Agree with what you said. @briseis She's very perceptive to how he feels and correctly said aloud to herself he looks lonely. I love their interaction from the conversations to quiet moments and side glances 

18 minutes ago, qwenli said:

am trying to back read but cant catch up fast enough.

@solelylurking I fully understand the feeling of falling in love with the characters and wanting to ship the couples. I do so fall in love with some drama characters madly. Its always nice for co-actors to like each other so that the chemistry on screen will be good. I think part of the success of some recent dramas like dots is due in a part to actors who are single in life and viewers can ship all they want.

I just want to say to view any actor as being in love with a co-star so that they act very well in the show, is somehow abit of a discredit to the director's editing and an actor's acting abilities. KHN is a really talented actor, I saw him in Misaeng and abit in Empire of Lust and he look just like the character he is supposed to portray. In both shows, he was a villain. Considering he has debut for 10 years and his extensive training in theatre, his accumulated experience is quite substantial. From the Scarlet hearts interviews, when I compare them to his 8th prince character, his real life character seems very different, which shows his awesome ability to morph into anything.

Certainly we can still ship the characters together, but seriously, kissing, hugging and holding hands is par for norm and part of an actor's job. They dont see it the same way as us daily people. :sweatingbullets: I am not saying they dont like each other as friends, but for IU, I can see that despite being surrounded by a bunch of goodlooking hot bods and handsome guys, she doesnt seems the least affected, she didnt giggle, talk nonsense or flirt with any of them (unfortunately) in the cosmopolitan interview, photoshoot or bts. She has a clear head on her shoulders, which is quite incredible for her age.

Although i did not see all the bts and photoshoot but of what I seen and hear of her interview, IU is mature and as you put not giggly. @qwenli Perhaps she's oso being careful and thoughtful for her boyfriend sake. Her boyfriend oso mention before they never felt the gap in age despite him being much older than her. I thk it reflects on her maturity and of course their shared love for music. 

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IU is a loyal girl friend.. anyway.. she has many male friend.. like jonghyun shinee, yonghwa cnblue, seulong , taecyon, kim soohyun , hyunwoo , jo jung suk and many more... 

Even her boyfriend ever come to the set. When she shoot for Scarlet heart ryeo.. 

She like making friend now.. she said.. because this drama she can get so many friends.. 

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Cried a river at the end of episode 5....... re-watched more than 5 times and my river of tears just flowed longer each time, sorrowfully framed with weeping willows at every bend. Oh my heart ! 

But I was also comforted by a couple of LOL moments in this episode. 

1. When Wang Wook asked if Haesoo preferred poems or songs. I am a fan of singer-songwriter IU, so i really laughed out loud at the moment when Haesoo realized that "gayo" to her meant those year-end song fests ie SBS Gayo Daejun, as opposed to Wang Wook's "gayo" , songs of the  common folk in Goryeo. K-pop culture referencing in ancient Goryeo, kekeke~~

2. When Wang So told Wang Eun to put up his hands during the emoji explanation. Wang So said "haneul" which means "sky", as in telling Wang Eun to put his hands up above. I just had to laugh at Writer-nim for making fun of Wang Wook's alter ego -- Kang Sky ! 

I have watched C-BBJX many times and i must say this... I am ready to forget the original version and am so,so ready to ride along with (Wang So on his stallion?! Lol) Haesoo and her princes for a totally new plot and characterization. 

 

 

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3 hours ago, akinahana89 said:

Although Lady Hae only asked for Wook, I can understand why Soo trailed behind them. She wasn't trying to intrude or to be nosy, in my opinion, but Lady Hae is the person she's closest to. Her mother figure, her cousin, her rock, and her support when she first time traveled to Goryeo. She's built a bond with her and the panic that Lady Hae is dying, the grief that she'll never be able to see her again, and the pain of impending loss makes Hae Soo follow them from a distance. She's far enough away to give the couple their privacy, but close enough to keep an eye on Lady Hae, to engrave her into memory, to remember her every detail, to cherish the last remaining moments before Lady Hae passes away.

If I were Hae Soo, I would probably do the same. I'll never see her again, so why would I waste the remaining time left being separated from her?

This is a really great point, guess I'm too blinded by my rage last night that I was completely biased on how meaningful that scene was for everyone. Just to give my stand on how I ended up reacting like that was first, Soo already got that memory to cherish .. that's when Lady Hae confronted her "on how foolish the both of them" then asking her to do her make up for her, in a sense.. Lady Hae knew exactly that they'll feel so remorseful it's like her saying "I know, it's alright, I forgive you.. take care of him".. so in my opinion Soo following them is unnecessary.. Of course, naturally Lady Hae wanted her last breath beside Wook, she wants to cherish her last moment with him.. More than anyone Soo should've thought of that and give them their complete privacy.. but yea maybe there's more to it that I failed to understand. :mellow:

On another note, YH is getting more scarier (I'm having this strange feeling that she's in the same league as Queen Yoo).. I just can't figure out how could she marry her off, and it seems that none of the princes can't block the arrangement.. I don't think princess got more authority than a prince that time.. so I'm leaning on, did Wook's mother didn't grant Lady Hae's last wish, or someone higher than that(Queen Yoo?) but it's not her household.. she had no ties with her.. is that possible? 

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27 minutes ago, qwenli said:

am trying to back read but cant catch up fast enough.

@solelylurking I fully understand the feeling of falling in love with the characters and wanting to ship the couples. I do so fall in love with some drama characters madly. Its always nice for co-actors to like each other so that the chemistry on screen will be good. I think part of the success of some recent dramas like dots is due in a part to actors who are single in life and viewers can ship all they want.

I just want to say to view any actor as being in love with a co-star so that they act very well in the show, is somehow abit of a discredit to the director's editing and an actor's acting abilities. KHN is a really talented actor, I saw him in Misaeng and abit in Empire of Lust and he look just like the character he is supposed to portray. In both shows, he was a villain. Considering he has debut for 10 years and his extensive training in theatre, his accumulated experience is quite substantial. From the Scarlet hearts interviews, when I compare them to his 8th prince character, his real life character seems very different, which shows his awesome ability to morph into anything. 

Certainly we can still ship the characters together, but seriously, kissing, hugging and holding hands is par for norm and part of an actor's job. They dont see it the same way as us daily people. :sweatingbullets: 

I am not saying they dont like each other as friends, but for IU, I can see that despite being surrounded by a bunch of goodlooking hot bods and handsome guys, she doesnt seems the least affected, she didnt giggle, talk nonsense, act coy or flirt with any of them (unfortunately) in the cosmopolitan interview, photoshoot or bts. She answer her questions clearly and smoothly without being arrogant nor being too humble. Seems like she has a clear head on her shoulders, which is quite incredible for her age. :)

 

That's what I'm talking about earlier. She is not lovey dovey or anything. And KHN may not even be in love with her. It's just me who saying that as his fans... If, and only if, KHN likes her I don't think the feeling is mutual. 

Ok. I rest my case about this. I'm sorry if I stirred something unwanted here and cause a ruckus. It was a harmless (well at least meant to be) comment from my part and doesn't consider any of the actors since I don't know any of them personally. To those of you who feel offended or not liking my comment, I apologized from the bottom of my heart and I will refrain myself from making such comment in the future. Clearly it is not something that can be talk about as a fun thing. From now on strictly to the drama or mesmerazing LJK's face and all the actors performances. :P:D

Happy virus everyone... \^0^/ (It will be better if WS also doing it instead only giving instruction but oh well, Wang Eun and Wang Jung are cutsy too).

I bow down from this argument. Thank you @qwenli and @Gabi Bros 

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I feel like the korean vers is more based on the romance whereas the chinese vers was more political.. since it seems like no one is greedy for the throne other than the queen for her son. But anything can happen in the next 16 eps

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55 minutes ago, zerovk9x said:

 

As for ep 6 preview, we are guessing that WS and WW may work together to help HS get rid of the marriage she is forced into. It may be their plan to let the real HS run away with WS when WW is taking a decoy with him to distract the guards.

OMG! I hope your theory is true!! and then WS and HS will elope! :">:wub::wub::wub:

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47 minutes ago, matchacake said:

Youku view count is now at 581,318,777.

 

This is crazy. That's more than 100 million since 6-7 hours ago!

Is it good ? I'm sorry i dont really know about the youku view :(

1 hour ago, skxz said:

I am so excited for the scene where Hae Soo removes So's mask. Like So stated in Ep 5 he isn't looking for someone of high value (i.e. has power) but someone who will treasure him and someone who would not be concerned with the scar he has on his face. Soo definitely fits the description I mean he probably had her in mind when he said that. 

The mask removal scene is symbolic of So's acceptance of himself and that he no longer has to hide behind a mask. The scar on his face is a constant reminder of the lack of love and acceptance from his mother and those around him. Her action of removing his mask is a final push for him to realise that he has a worth and that no matter the flaws in his physical appearance it is all the intangible things that draw her to him. Soo is his anchor. She makes him happy and keeps him sane. She shows him what being loved and cared for feels like and that wanting to live is not a crime but a right.

 

My gosh after writing this I think I've become a So/Soo shipper but I know once I see Soo and Wook interact I'm gonna get swayed again 어떡해. I can't wait why is it not Monday already?!?

 

 

I become SoSoo shipper after watching LJK acting at ep 1. Is it in preview ep 6? I cant wait for Soo for open So mask. Finally i can see handsome LJK \^0^/. 

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18 minutes ago, hazzle said:

I become SoSoo shipper after watching LJK acting at ep 1. Is it in preview ep 6? I cant wait for Soo for open So mask. Finally i can see handsome LJK \^0^/. 

 

Haha I'm having a hard time choosing my ship cause I love both LJK and KHN and I love their characters and I'm just confused. I have to say that I and probably a So/Soo shipper but I'm always swayed when Wook shares scenes with Soo. It's just something about how she changes when she's around him and it's so cute. 

And no this is not the Ep 6 preview it's in the 7 minute preview which released before the series started. A lot of us hardcore fans have tried to decipher and figure out what will happen through watching that trailer and it's been great seeing everyone's interpretation. 

Yes can't wait to be able to see LJK's full face and close up cause we know that the director loves his close ups haha :) 

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1 hour ago, uuugogirl said:

 

Oh god that delicate hand is Haesoo's hand :cry: what is she doing? :cry: Is she trying to get out of that arranged marriage and come back to future by suicide :cry:

Is this the reason ws and ww will come to save her?

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1 hour ago, ruizaio said:

I don't know if this scene was filmed and then left out or if it didn't get shot at all, but in an early version of the scripts that had been leaked, there was a scene right before Chae Ryung was beaten by the princess and her maidens. It shows how a bond forms between Baek Ah (13th) and So and hints at So's mettle for kingship. Basically, Prince 3 (Yo) insults Prince 13 (Baek Ah) as Baek Ah's mother is from the royal family of the fallen dynasty of Silla. So subtly comes to Baek Ah's defense, and they walk together. This is why they appear together when So comes to the rescue when Soo is being beaten by the princess.

The following is a rough translation of the scene:

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Prince 3: I called you all here because His Majesty has starved the camel that was sent as a gift by the Khitans to death. Petitions are flying in from all ranks of court officials. We should do something to support His Majesty.

Prince 14: (Unhappy) They're so afraid of having a war with the puny Khitans. Those pathetic figureheads need to be offed first.

Prince 10: By the way, did the camel really die? I guess it takes quite a few days for it to starve to death... Now that it's happened, they should just distribute its meat to the starving people.

Prince 9: Nonsense! We might have a war domestically! Ever since the Khitans stopped bringing in horses, the price of horses has gone through the roof! We can't have war without horses for the army.

Prince 10: I believe you're talking about horses for racing, not the army. For your betting.

Prince 9: (Menacing look)

Prince 8: We must support His Majesty as he looks into improving our diplomatic relation with Later Jin as we burned our bridge with the Khitans. This is a good chance to change the direction of our diplomatcy.

Prince 13: The Khitans destroyed Balhae. As we come from the same ancestry as Balhae, of course we should cut ties with the Khitans.

Prince 3: Take a huge loss just for the sake of a ruined kingdom? (Looking at Prince 13) As if Silla wasn't enough, now even Balhae? Sure, we may come from the same ancestors. They're basically like distant relatives that are dirt poor and try to mooch off of you.

Prince 13: (Clenches his fists, but can't say anything) ...

Prince 4: You're right, brother 3. 

Prince 3: (Surprised)

Prince 4: However, whether the owner of the treasury decides to offer some of the wealth to the poor relatives or to feed to the dogs, it's all up to the owner. Instead of just exchanging empty words here without being able to voice anything in front of the actual owner of the treasury, why don't we just go take a look at the dead camel? As 10th brother said, let's see if it's edible at all. Baek Ah, shall we go?

Prince 13: (Stands up hastily) Yes, let's do that, Brother.

As Princes 4 and 13 leave, Prince 8 smiles as he drinks tea.

Prince 3: (Clenches the teacup and shudders) That insolent buffoon.

Prince 10: (To Prince 9) See! Even Brother 4 wants to know if camel meat is edible.

Prince 9: (Shut up!! Nudging)

Prince 14: (Looks at his brothers, worried)

 

Garden of Prince 8's house

Princes 4 and 13 are walking.

Prince 13: Thank you, Brother.

Prince 4: No need to thank me; I don't help people. I just hate the attitude of sucking up to those with power and oppressing the weak. 

Prince 13: (Bitter) You become a commoner or a slave based on your mother's station... Even though I'm treated as a prince, I'm no different from a slave. Even though we all have the same father, our stations are so different.

Prince 4: ...if you were a slave and not a prince, you wouldn't have had to serve your father as the owner of the treasury. At least you don't have to worry about when you might have your next meal. Take that as a consolation.

Prince 13: (Looks at Prince 4 with fresh eyes. Feels a little closer to him)

They get closer to each other as they continue walking.

 

This excerpt is written in a tone that is very different from the episodes we've seen so far. The lines sound more Sageuk-like and the vocabulary used is way more advanced than what is actually spoken in the drama. So I can understand that the scripts may have been totally revamped before they started shooting and that this scene may have been cut out totally. I just hope that they'll include enough scenes in the future that show more about how So prepares himself to be king... 

Oh..no..why did the cut the scene?it really looks like the main theme of the novel..fight for the throne...and it showa the political views of the princes..oh well,I'm sure the production team have a good reason for that.

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You guys are so active, I wake up this morning and see the page has hit 300 pages! Was reading on 286 yesterday then decided to sleep even though I want to read them all, hehehe...

So, I skimmed through the thread and I agree that Lee Junki's acting skills are top notch. All the young actors and actresses acting are not bad, but Lee Junki acting makes everyone's acting looks average. Maybe because he has been in the industry longer and he seems to take on various roles, so his acting range is pretty wide already. I think the one who can be on par with Lee Junki in the same scene in this drama are either actress who played Queen Yoo and or Kang Haneul. They did a good job on intense scenes, although Lee Junki's reaction is what made them all so intense. On the other hand, I think IU's acting compared to Lee Junki does look weak...at first, but somehow I gradually feel that it fits Hae Soo, it also fits the situation they were in for those scenes. I was wondering if there are any actress that can play Hae Soo better, but for now I can't imagine anyone else. As for Baekhyun, I'm glad for him to take on the 10th role, he's pretty cute and hilarious as Wang Eun, I get giddy when I see him with Hae Soo, like, "Why you so cuuute, 10th??"

Also, whoever posted that Kang Haneul-IU photos under the same umbrella, THANK YOU! Gooooosh, they are so cute as well in real life! Time to save the pics and gifs that are posted here~~~~

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