[Drama 2016] Moon Lovers ❤ Scarlet Heart Ryeo, 달의 연인-보보경심 려 \^0^/ Soompi Kdrama 2016 Winner

[ShinRaeMi]

14 minutes ago, IAmSoulReader said:

 

As for Wang So, he did cause Hae Soo to feel all sorts of negative feelings at the start. But we gotta admit, he pretty much does save her in every crucial moment she encounters. He is different with her than he is with everyone else. When they are together we see two outcasts who can drop theirs masks as long as they are only in the presence of each other. Wang So might be rough and cruel on the outside, but he is also not as calculating as Wook's character was planned to be. He even said it himself. He wants a wife who loves him for who he is. He needs an emotional ally more than someone with power and money. This is way closer to Hae Soo's modern mindset and therefore I guess she'll be able to relate to So even more in future.
 

 

Sorry to cut your post. What I like about Scarlet Heart Ryeo is that Wang So's character and his connection to Hae Soo has more depth compared to the c-version. I just don't understand why the queen hated him that much that she even threatened the King to kill So when he was just a little kid.

Spoiler

In the C-version, before the queen died, she told the 4th that he is not her real son. But at least, she didn't hate him as much as the queen in k-version did.

 

[mintkiss]

9 hours ago, chubbz said:

 

 

I watched the show with Chinese subtitles and it read 秦 (Qin) and not 清 (Qing).

 

thanks for the clarification! guess it was a mistake in subbing then.

shall be avoiding this thread for the rest of the day since I won't be able to watch ep 5 until I'm off work OTL 

[-_JiYeon_-]

Can someone translate this preview ? *-* It has more scene in it xP

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzYzzfWqsA0

[ShinRaeMi]

By the way, according to history (i read it on Wiki), the Crown Prince succeeded the throne after the King died. Then, he was replaced by Wang Yo (3rd) before Wang So (4th) succeeded the throne. I wonder if they will follow the history. I've seen in the teaser that it seems after the King died, Wang So took over the throne because it seems he's the one doing the ritual/ceremony in the funeral of his father. I'm guessing it was when he was wearing a white robe and everyone is also wearing white.

[solelylurking]

The one thing I regret from the preview of next ep:

Why can Wang So be more poker face specially on front of his evil queen mother? It's like he's letting everyone know what he's feeling for Soo. I know I've said it myself that one only have to look at So's face to figure what inside his head but this is a palace, So! You need to be more political correct here or you'll be suffering more. 

After watching the both vers, I agree that Soo will be taken by So and Wook riding with the decoy. But it looks like Wook will be visiting and him kissing her forehead happen in the hiding. I just hope So never witnessing that. Also wonder where is the little house located? It's perfect for new wed couple. Can they elope back then? It's so hard trying to marry these princes!

[lovedrama11]

8 minutes ago, solelylurking said:

The one thing I regret from the preview of next ep:

Why can Wang So be more poker face specially on front of his evil queen mother? It's like he's letting everyone know what he's feeling for Soo. I know I've said it myself that one only have to look at So's face to figure what inside his head but this is a palace, So! You need to be more political correct here or you'll be suffering more. 

So true ! I feel the queen is trying to marry HS off just so that she can twist the knife further into torturing WS . Horrible witch 

[Immortal_Angel]

9 minutes ago, ShinRaeMi said:

By the way, according to history (i read it on Wiki), the Crown Prince succeeded the throne after the King died. Then, he was replaced by Wang Yo (3rd) before Wang So (4th) succeeded the throne. I wonder if they will follow the history. I've seen in the teaser that it seems after the King died, Wang So took over the throne because it seems he's the one doing the ritual/ceremony in the funeral of his father. I'm guessing it was when he was wearing a white robe and everyone is also wearing white.

 

I'm thinking they might stick close to history or else the people would be furious on teaching the young ones wrong history even though its fictional. Its still taking characters from history so they probably stick close to the fact cause in the long trailer 

Spoiler

Wang So and 13th was in battle armor on horses outside the gate probably fighting their way in. 

 

Maybe something happen to the 3rd so he's wearing the garments for the ritual/ceremony since they are brothers

[solelylurking]

3 minutes ago, lovedrama11 said:

So true ! I feel the queen is trying to marry HS off just so that she can twist the knife further into torturing WS . Horrible witch 

 

Queen mother, Wang Yo, YH and possibly her and Wook's mother should start a club together. They just perfect for each other!

I sometimes pity Wang Wook and Wang So when I'm not admiring their beautiful face. One does his responsibility and tries to be what his familiy want him to be and can never be happy and do something to make him on his own account. Wook always so careful and calculative. Must be a hard and tough life he's having. The one girl he love is right there in front of her but he couldn't be with her still and get snatched away then. 

One desperately trying to get approval and love from his family that it force him to be cruel but the effect is the opposite. The cruelness eventually drives everybody away from him more. All he need is to be acknowledge and purely love but he can't get that until Soo come.

[bebebisous33]

@MadraRua 

Sorry I copied your wonderful gifs for two reasons. I would like to explain the symbolism behind these two scenes. I hope, you don't mind.

I really love the symbolism of this two scenes: the eclipse. This represents the meeting of the sun and the moon. Actually, the eclipse symbolises the fated meeting of Wang So and Hae Soo. When Hae Jin is disappearing in the darkness, she is actually on her way to meet Wang So. Then Wang So appears riding on his horse and the sun begins to shine again behind his back. This scene reveals that this is the start for Wang So to shine. First, he is in the dark, but later, the sun shines more and more. The moon that made the sun disappear makes the sun appear even brighter than before. Actually, Wang So has no idea about his future and he is about to meet his soulmate. As conclusion, the sun representing Wang So will meet the person who will change his fate: Hae Soo. She is the one who will turn Wang So into a king. I don't think, the director didn't have this in mind. The reason why I think that the sun embodies Wang So and the moon Hae Soo is because in Europe, the sun was used as symbol for the King (Louis 14. is called the sun king = roi soleil) and secondly, the cycle of the moon corresponds to the menstrual cycle too. 

I love the symbolism behind the eclipse because it goes even deeper. This event doesn't occur every year and it is rare so that their meeting looks more like fate. Besides, although both planets (sun/moon) seem to embrace each other, there is actually a distance which also exists in our story. Hae Soo comes from 21st century and the distance is portraied by the difference of the time, as Wang So is definitely someone from 10th century. 

@lavender2love I am glad that you decided to join this thread. Here is one of my analysis!

[UnniSarah]

1 hour ago, bebebisous33 said:

I know we have been questioning Wang So's feelings for Hae Soo, but honestly, I am wondering if Hae Soo really loves Wang Wook. Sure, he has been so gentle towards her the entire time, yet we shouldn't forget that before that, she had that bad experience with her cheating boyfriend. Then she also witnessed the killing of people therefore she must be so receptive to kindness. I won't say that she doesn't love Wang Wook, but to me, it is more infatuation. Finally, she doesn't know the real Wang Wook, the calculative and intelligent man. She never saw how rude and mean he was to Wang So. She saw that he didn't protect her like he said, but since he came to give her some cream for her pain and apologised to her, she overlooked it. In my opinion, she hasn't shared her inner thoughts to Wang Wook like she did with Wang So. 

Annyeong Chingu's 

@bebebisous33.... Hae Soo is not in love with anyone yet. She likes Wang Wook for his kindness to her Lady Hae , he is dashing  and she thinks he has a good heart. Like you said she was betrayed and she had no idea her cousin was in love with her husband.  

I have not seen this episode with subs" IT's just a theory right now

When BAEK Ha finally spoke to her , she realized how wrong she was to be in a relationship with a married man. Especially when her cousin was in love and willing to do anything for them both. I always knew that Lady Hae was in love with WW but o don't he ever tried to open his heart to his wife. When she touched his face , you can see how rigid his face became and almost moved away from her touch. smh smh smh 

I believe Lady asked for a divorce only if Wang Wook took Hae Soo as his wife??? I think  think that is what she asked of her mother in law and BAEK Ha told Hae Soo this . Which made her really sad and disappointed in her.  Because of this revelation , I think that Wang Wook will have to work really hard to capture Hae Soo heart. I still think Hae Soo would care for him but she can never really love him because his need for power will be overwhelming.     

 

 

[meahri_1]

1 hour ago, qwenli said:

Sorry, I want to ask those who watched the c version, was the poem thing from there? If it isn't then the Koreans have spent quite some effort to dig out this lovely poem for the story.

@bebebisous33 totally agree with you that Haesoo is just enamoured by the current "white knight" Wook, later she will fall deeply with the "dark knight" So, who is her true soulmate because he was the only one who understood her emoticon 

 

@qwenli I don't remember 8 giving Ruoxi a poem, but I do recall she liked the poems/phrases/or idioms (I don't think they were full poems as they were short) that he would write in calligraphy.

@ShinRaeMi That's right! I mixed them up. 8 and Ruoxi did write each other...and then it was 4 that did he calligraphy.

[KdramaAddict]

3 hours ago, Niki Azia said:

ONE channel Wang Wook on the horse with HS

SBS channel Wang So on the horse with HS

i think they re-edit for Korea SBS version .. that why we seen two different version who's on the horse with HS

but .. i believe both of them on the horse with HS. mybe Wang Wook safe her 1st. then, Wang So safe later 

As One TV has WW on horse so it was originally there and SBS one has WS seems like it was edited just like we had director's edited version of first 3 episode. They want to give WS-HS fans something to look forward to for next week (thats my theory..may be wrong.)

And WS will have HS while WW must have one acting as HS (most probable option would be CR..)

3 hours ago, angelangie said:

hehehe then we have WangSo with HaeSoo alone out there hiding together right>??? !!!!

is it as per the novel ?

[lovedrama11]

@solelylurking I agree . But I thought wook s mother is not so bad . Anyway am rooting for WS . Love Wook also though ! And my gad LJK is just gorgeous ..... Hate some of the close ups but can watch his all day long ....

[rmtd44]

Hello everyone, 

is english sub already out? Please pm me the link

 

thank you

 

[chi13lou]

My post got lost.

So while at the cottage, HaeSoo will finally remove Wang So's mask. Perhaps by ep 7 as there seems to be too much going on in ep 6 with the death of Lady Hae, the wedding and eventual escape.

[bebebisous33]

8 minutes ago, chi13lou said:

My post got lost.

So while at the cottage, HaeSoo will finally remove Wang So's mask. Perhaps by ep 7 as there seems to be too much going on in ep 6 with the death of Lady Hae, the wedding and eventual escape.

I agree that the removing of his mask will happen later.

[KdramaAddict]

2 hours ago, bebebisous33 said:

I know we have been questioning Wang So's feelings for Hae Soo, but honestly, I am wondering if Hae Soo really loves Wang Wook. Sure, he has been so gentle towards her the entire time, yet we shouldn't forget that before that, she had that bad experience with her cheating boyfriend. Then she also witnessed the killing of people therefore she must be so receptive to kindness. I won't say that she doesn't love Wang Wook, but to me, it is more infatuation. Finally, she doesn't know the real Wang Wook, the calculative and intelligent man. She never saw how rude and mean he was to Wang So. She saw that he didn't protect her like he said, but since he came to give her some cream for her pain and apologised to her, she overlooked it. In my opinion, she hasn't shared her inner thoughts to Wang Wook like she did with Wang So. 

 

I decided to read all comments and then start replying but I like your inputs and here something from me...

1. In preview we  heard WS asking WW do you like that gal (or chilld) but we never got to listen WWs response. And as we know his persona is not like he just admit until he has done the calculation with all pros and cons so I doudt he would say yes. He can either deny or just ignore the question or question back WS why he is interested when I asked you to stay away from HS.

2. And eventhough WW says Yes to above question, we still dont know what HS feels, as you said it can infatuation (and i am all with you in that) and then we will have WS all set to  make her realize what real love is different than infatuation. And even if its love she will not be happy to be WWs wife cause she was not happy abt the concept of having another wife when she asked Eun will you bring another wife if your wife is sick. She will feel its not right morally to marry WW.

3. Why WS asked WW that question ? Possibly HS is all in his mind and heart these days and before reaching out to conclusion about his true feelings for HS he wants to be sure he is not coming in between 2 love birds (just my take...we will have to wait to see real reason this question was put). So in case WW-HS ship is already sailed he would'nt bother HS by telling his feeling and if its not he can pursue her with no strings attached.

As conclusion I'd say WW is more of a crush for HS, whom she can stare from afar, adore, admire but scared of maintaining her image in front of him, what he will think if she does not understand the poem.

With WS its more like a buddy relationship where she can bicker, make all those faces, smirk, taunt without worrying abt what he will think abt her and how it will impact their bonding.

And the more you are open in a relationship more its chance to be strong and sturdy to face all hardships in future. Its not based on those volatile image maintaining strategy which can be ripped in pieces the moment you tough times in your life. So WS-HS makes more sense to me than WW-HS.

[KdramaAddict]

20 minutes ago, angelangie said:

 

nope that is purely my own thinking....as i didnt read the novel nor watch the cversion so im approaching this series like i do any kdrama fresh instead of an adaption

aaaaaannndd.. I loved that. so keep it coming we are here to enjoy each and every bit of our imaginations till we get something in real

[irilight]

DramaFever put up a poll on their twitter account,  asking us to vote which Prince we like better.

Lee Joon-Gi or Kang Ha-Neul

https://twitter.com/dramafever


 

[MadraRua]

1 hour ago, bebebisous33 said:

@MadraRua  

Sorry I copied your wonderful gifs for two reasons. I would like to explain the symbolism behind these two scenes. I hope, you don't mind.

I really love the symbolism of this two scenes: the eclipse. This represents the meeting of the sun and the moon. Actually, the eclipse symbolises the fated meeting of Wang So and Hae Soo. When Hae Jin is disappearing in the darkness, she is actually on her way to meet Wang So. Then Wang So appears riding on his horse and the sun begins to shine again behind his back. This scene reveals that this is the start for Wang So to shine. First, he is in the dark, but later, the sun shines more and more. The moon that made the sun disappear makes the sun appear even brighter than before. Actually, Wang So has no idea about his future and he is about to meet his soulmate. As conclusion, the sun representing Wang So will meet the person who will change his fate: Hae Soo. She is the one who will turn Wang So into a king. I don't think, the director didn't have this in mind. The reason why I think that the sun embodies Wang So and the moon Hae Soo is because in Europe, the sun was used as symbol for the King (Louis 14. is called the sun king = roi soleil) and secondly, the cycle of the moon corresponds to the menstrual cycle too. 

I love the symbolism behind the eclipse because it goes even deeper. This event doesn't occur every year and it is rare so that their meeting looks more like fate. Besides, although both planets (sun/moon) seem to embrace each other, there is actually a distance which also exists in our story. Hae Soo comes from 21st century and the distance is portraied by the difference of the time, as Wang So is definitely someone from 10th century. 

 

I don't mind in the least @bebebisous33, especially not when you give an analysis like that.  

I too like the symbolism of the scene. The eclipse closing on her world and opening on his. I like how you draw comparison to the Sun for Wang So and the Moon for Hae Soo. So beautiful. The Sun is of course the bringer of light and life, it is warmth and ever steady. The moon is it's silent partner during the day, only coming out to play at night when the sun sets. The Moon is luminescence and a constant. It stood between the earth and sun to create the solar eclipse. Day and night - they're the perfect yin and yang and an appropriate representation of Wang So and Hae Soo.

Very interesting connection between the moon and the phases of the menstrual cycle. I didn't realize it was so symbolic of women. Thanks for that. I learned something new today