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  1. 1 hour ago, mimisl123 said:

    I almost cried watching JBC cry infronf of grandpa. I think he shot JMR. I smell a happy ending at the end people. I don't understand anything that they say though.

    @mimisl123  I didn't because it was phony.. JMr tried to poison G/pa and JBc delivered it..  You see how fast G/pa stop eating it.. 

    3 minutes ago, bebebisous33 said:

    What! KPJ died??:dissapointed_relieved:

    @bebebisous33  From the last few episodes I had started thinking he was living on borrowed time.. 

     

    Well all the pure bloods went to jail including G/pa.. But my big question is did KPJ make G/pa donate all that money? 

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  2. JMR has gone off on the deep end.. 

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    It seems she poisoned G/pa and now on to KPj.. JBc has went and retrieved his shot gun.. I expected thus much from him.. It seems his mom knows his mom is kill crazy and decides to take the task at hand himself..

    I think she did poisoned JMs and G/pa knew about it..

    What or who is Ny Young that they keep mentioning..?

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  3. Hello Ladies And Gents, As we go into the final episode of this wonderful drama I like to thank the writer actors and production team for a job well done.  I like to thank JH for stellar performance as KPJ/JEC.. But most of all I like to thank all of you commentators for keeping me company with all the great comments insights gifts and videos.. @purplebass Thank you for giving us the play by play each week until the episodes had been released on websites..  So everyone it's going to be a sad ending to this masterpiece I'm just happy I got to watch a awesome drama with all of you.. 

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  4. 3 hours ago, bebebisous33 said:

    That's why I left it out, since there is nothing sure... Maybe they tried to kill him separately, unaware of what the others were doing... JMR poisoning him little by little so that the reason of his collapse was overwork: when JSM heard that his brother's condition was improving disliked it and chose to keep this info to himself as he knew that JKH had decided to remove the mask.

    @bebebisous33  I'm wondering if G/pa paid off the Doc to keep quite.. If he knew the man was showing improvement and all of a sudden he went into cardiac arrest or just mysteriously died Doc can also be liable for not reporting the mans sudden death,, Maybe JMR gave him his last dose of poisoning there.. I had also thought that Lil brother was also involved in his death with JMR.. Just thinking about it when uncle knew JBC wasn't related to him why would he still would make a deal with JMR using the 60 40 split to a person you know your not related to saying he wants to be fair to his so called nephew..  It's something about these two I don't trust they had some kind of deal in the past to be trying to work a deal now..

     

    1 hour ago, lu09 said:

    I have a feeling that all 3 had a hand in JSMs death. I'm looking forward to JEC teaching them a lesson they won't forget in their lives. JMR just digged her own graveyard by talking to the press lol. How stupid can she be when gramps filed a lawsuit regarding the inheritance. It is only a matter of time before the reporters start digging on their own :crazy:. I'm so going to enjoy the Jang family destroying themselves lol. And why is uncle out? I thought he will serving some jail time<_<.

    @lu09  Uncle is out on bail, G/pa wasted money on a good lawyer for him when he will need one for himself..  :lol:

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  5. 14 hours ago, bebebisous33 said:

    I hope, he is faking his death and had planned this in advance!! He needed a real proof that JMR is a killer!

    @bebebisous33  I also thinks he's preparing JMR for her prison clothes.. KPJ seems smarter then that and may have anticipated this move from her not only do he have the proof in his body but also the proof if the same poisoning that Killed Mr.Oh.. I"m wondering if this poison got into JSM body.. 

    I think this is going to be the straw that breaks the camels back not only poisoning the real heir to the family but also she will be outing JBC.. I think this is a stupid move on her part well if she didn't want JBC to know who his father was she just told the world herself..

     

    39 minutes ago, philosophie said:

     

    And who killed JSM?? Was it JMR, JSM, or JKH??!

    @philosophie  I personally think JMR poisoned him but G/pa is the real killer when he removed his oxygen mask.. So they both did.. I think we'll find out in the end.. We will get a flashback in the last episode of what really happened to him..  Another thing is JBC with the shot gun hide in Mr.Oh room.. He's going to be a sniper to take KPJ out because all he thinks of is KPJ used him and betrayed him and he sees it as the dog turn on his master so it's him that's got to take out his dog..

     

    I think it's going to be a big scandal in the papers.. Reading something to the nature of Mooshinwin Heiress Kills Husband Legitimate Children To Keep Eldest G/child From Claiming His Rights..

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  6. 3 hours ago, fiesty8001 said:

    And I already dread his fashion at the upcoming wrap-up party. <_<

    You and I know all to well @fiesty8001  JK probably step out in a pair of jeans to just to dress down from those suits he wears daily in the show also a T-shirt to make himself comfortable and his favorite pair of flip flop just so his toes can breath.. :lol: He is a laid back type of guy.. Let's not forget his famous hat..:lol:

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  7. 7 hours ago, mimisl123 said:

    Exactly, i made this point earlier as well. If he has not got any connection with the slush fund what other reasons?? He is so sure that it will not affect him. The responses he gave to NMH showed it clearly. I have a feeling that what NMH is trying to do is so unnecessary. She now should live quietly with what she has got, her father is alive, got the divorce and no longer is related to the Jangs and she knows KPJ will always be there for her. If she continues what she is going to do i think she might loose her life, someone will kill her and that way the story will end by KPJ getting his revenge and walking into the river to reunite with his family and the love of his life (if she dies). Because when JBC is also alive i do not see KPJ and NMH getting together. She might be having some after thoughts about JBC as well, also she feels sorry for him. 

    JMR and the Grandpa will definitely go to Jail. This story cannot have a happy ending because it will be too silly for the plot so far.

    @mimisl123  This also what I don't understand why would he be going to jail he' snot the owner of the slush fund nor is he the owner of the money laundering institution nor was he the manager of these said rings.. All the moving if this money was sign by these manages or G/pa himself.. JMR was very jealous that Yc mother was handling all this money and wasn't happy until it was in her possession..  So if anyone is responsible for any action regarding monies that went to Congressman NA it's these parties and not KOJ.. I agree this is the very reasons he told NMH to do as she like.. On the hand I also agree with you her probing want get her what she wants but manage to get her dad in deeper troubles then he already is..  I also think KPJ told her to dig further is to reveal were the source of money is coming from and to expose it.. He knows this isn't going to hurt  G/pa much because he still sitting on billions but it's a start into shaking the foundation the very core of G/pa soul his money which he lives by and taught the other family members to be just as greedy as he.

     

    3 hours ago, kohnlee said:

    Episode 22 was like a game of chess! 

    I freaking love the BGM in this show. 

     

    Seeing JMR cried for her son lying on the bed made me realise that - why didn't u think of this pain when u did that to some other woman's kids?? Sorry, u don't deserve any sympathy. 

     

    Oh my I love the scene where they claim who has more shares of Cheong A was quite epic! Just when uncle thought he and JMR has more shares - KPJ revealed the possibility of him having the most. The expression on Grandpa and JMR were like they just got their faces slapped! And this is so true - KPJ ammunition - only pen and paper! I love how he puts grandpa in his place. Stop your nonsense, old man! 

     

    And u see sign of relief he revealed on his face when he was voted as Chairman. It says FINALLY. Then the tears swelling up, he must be thinking of his mother and brother. 

     

    With Congressman live video, will this make KPJ the chairman with the shortest stint? 

     

    I don't want grandpa or anyone to die. I want them to see how successful Cheong A can be with JEC as Chairman. Especially grandpa and JMR - they should just rot in jail in that boring prison uniform. And that scene where KPJ was alone in his room, makes me certain that he will not stay on after he does what he wants to. It is not the money and company that he wants. Honestly, I'm not even hoping to see KPJ and NMH together. KpJ should eventualy find peace within himself and be truly free. 

     

    And should KPJ die, YG will burn down Mooshinwon , making everyone die together lol! 

    @kohnlee  Yes it was a well game of chest played in every round and KPJ demonstrated his Bobby Fisher moves on them all.. Yes the look on the elders faces said it all.. Especially when MR Woo announced KPJ isn't lacking in shares which is totally owned by him which he bought and paid for with the exception of JMR gift.. But if you watch that scene really well check out the look on Yc face..:lol: He has the look of how will I ever beat him:lol: He looks really disgusted by KPJ and wondering how did he outsmart someone like G/pa who only pass things down the line to the noble blood..:angry: That scene was hilarious..  I have a feeling before it's over G/pa will hand the reins over to KPJ or watch all his hard work be destroyed by KPJ.. G/pa will reveal to the world who KPJ is to him..

     

    I wish for KPJ to finally have a peace if mind after all that's said and done.. Hope he meets a nice girl to settle down with and raise some better Jang children. Without G/pa having a say in whom to be his wife..

     

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  8. 7 hours ago, triplem said:

    That’s true as well - equating money to power.  

    What I can’t wrap my head around is why KPJ will have to go to jail though. I know some have brought this up as a possibility. But On what basis ? I don’t think he has committed any crime . If it’s the slush fund transfers , he is not the one who owns the money & he is acting as their lawyer . I think the old man & JMR needs to go to jail though 

    @triplem  This is also what I didn't understand saying KPJ could face jail time if he does it would only be for 6 months at most.. Also it's nothing to serious to snatch his law  degree up..  As far as I know of and can remember it was his on personal money that went to Congressman Na.. I'm not understanding what problems could come up for him.. I thought OH announcing to the world that he was alive just added more to his plate with the protection of that family.. NMH may have suggested to her father to go on national Tv to prove he's alive for protection but that still wouldn't stop G/pa from trying to kill them all.. This is the man that would kill at will anyone that don't fit in his perfect family or might be a threat to his Joseon style living.. Anyone threatens G/pa and JMR thrones, All that comes to there minds is KILL KILL KILL :lol:

     

    6 hours ago, bebebisous33 said:

    There is a possibility because he gave his own money to NCG, when the van and the money was stolen by JSM and Woo. Woo lied to JSM that KPJ took back the money. Moreover, there is this video showing KPJ giving money to NCG, the last transfer. But maybe KPJ can turn this into something legal: I mean, there are people who support candidates officially.   

    @bebebisous33  Even the van full of money would fall on JMR because she was the one in charge of the money at said time.. The only monies they can connect to KPJ is his own money any other moneys Congessman NA may have received after that would have come from G/pa other slush funds under those barrowed names account which KPJ has no control over..

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  9. 3 hours ago, lu09 said:

    Hahaha that was really funny. JEC really knows how to put JMR and gramps in their places lol. I am laughting at every scene theses morons trying to outsmart JEC but he has a perfect answer to their questions. This was another one; when uncle got arrested. JEC told  gramps straight on his face that he sent uncle to jail for tax evasion and he should hire a good lawyer for his son lol. The look on gramps was priceless hahaha. 

    I agree with u. JBC will go on a rampage hahaha. JEC clearly warned her but it seems like they are going to learn their lessons the hard way. The public and media will be reading the worst scandal in history lol.

    @lu09  All of episode 22 was funny watching KPJ give G/pa and JMR the play by play it's like watching a chess game were KPJ just kept checkmating them.. Every move they made.. Last blow to uncle was like telling G/pa that he's not playing with him do as I say darn it or else you and your pure blooded G/son will be next,,:lol:  G/pa was so sure he collected all the evidence KPJ had the look on his face regarding the barrowed name accounts was priceless.. He had the look if were is he keeping all my dirt from:blink: KPj keeps his straight face giving G/pa the smirk:wink: As I said before they all going to need good lawyers when KPJ is finished..:tongue:

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  10. 1 hour ago, bebebisous33 said:

    JBC's feelings towards KPJ are a mixture of brotherly love, possession, jealousy and envy due to his insecurities.

    1 hour ago, bebebisous33 said:

    KPJ is acting like a hyung: "JBC, stop being so self-centered", "the world doesn't evolve around you every time"

     

    @bebebisous33  JBC has grownup like a kid in a big candy store.. Everything is his having one to take what he always thought was his is the worst.. All he knows is mines, mines..  He can't help but feel self centered because he said it himself the focus should be on him and securing his position.. I thought it was funny when he said that  because that''s what KPJ did let all the attention be focus on him that he wanted so much.. Now losing the last name Jang and not being able to use the power of that name which JMR and he will bank on will send him over the edge..  For someone like him to stop being so self centered is going to be hard.. 

    At this point I think about mistress who wanted her son to have the last name Jang so bad what will she think once it's made public that JBC isn't a Jang..  The ending of him losing the last name puts me in the drama a well raised daughter when it was discovered that the male heir to the family wasn't the bio son of the family.. They were outed public with a nice article printed in the newspapers of them being fakes.. So whatever him and JMR do the Jangs are not held liable for it..

    1 hour ago, bebebisous33 said:

    Moreover, JBC is not intelligent and observant like KPJ hence he is not able to interpret correctly people's behaviour. NMH could see through KPJ's words and gaze that KPJ had a brotherly affection towards JBC (memorial of JSM) but JBC is not able to do it (due to his self-centerness and selfishness). JBC is still acting like a spoiled child in the end, as someone who blames everyone for his misery, when his wishes don't come true. He still lacks maturity: KPJ's words were like a "reality wake up". However, this is undeniable that KPJ considers JBC as his little brother... something he wouldn't even reveal to JMR as she would use it to her own advantage.

    Yes his insecurities and lack of maturity tells us he really don't know his mom well enough at all.. He still can''t read when she's lying or not.. I just shook my head her looking him the face lying like that when she said she didn't know why KPJ was going after her.. JBC is even jealous that NMH has known KPJ longer then he has and she knew the full story of why KPJ was coming after his mom..  I think a person of his caliber don't have any business being in a CEO position he can't read people at all to busy worrying about himself to see what he;s done has hurt others including his wife and out of wedlock child..

        

     

    1 hour ago, kismet22 said:

    Even when romancing NHM at first the phrases he repeated that won her over where the words spoken by KPJ until later he used his own brand of seduction (yuck)  What JBC failed to realize is that friendship and love is not all "taking" but it is mostly "giving" and the only thing he really gave was NHM a divorce...with pathetic strings attached.  

    Blaming everyone else for his failures and mistakes is JMR all over again. 

    @kismet22 You would think as strong of a woman JMR is she would have raised her son even stronger. But she failed as a mother and parent to were as JBC is concerned.. Now I bet she wish should would have taken at the very least one of the kids into the home for her and JBC to survive.. Niw she has no survival skills left to play at this point KPJ has put them all in a situation to were it's every man for himself including G/pa..:lol:

     

     

    53 minutes ago, lu09 said:

    I'm still laughing at the scene where uncle thinks he won the vote for the chairman position. The way he asked his father and sister in law ridiculously if they gave money to buy shares and the latter, half of her shares to KPJ was priceless lol

    @lu09, I thought that scene was hilarious, How she sat there like she was robbed of those shares when she willingly gave them to him.. G/.pa also gave him the money to buy the shares that was needed none of them are willing to accept all that's happening is to they own making including uncle.. Yc can still go to jail for attempted murder and uncle could also be charged for murder for hire.. These people the more they try and cleanup they mess the more they bury themselves in it.. Like digging there own graves..

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  11. 43 minutes ago, kismet22 said:

    1) I was somewhat disgusted with KPJ at the start for setting up the marriage and letting it happen, however, I give him some credit now for making strides to somewhat balance the scales of justice on NMH behalf.  Like others have said well in the thread, he did his best to have NMH and JBC fall in love (which they did and JBC screwed it up) yet, he has helped her - saved her father, gave her information, told her the truth about her marriage and been fairly open after the line was crossed.  He has never moved against her and not lied (to my knowledge and let's not get into the whole omission being a lie bc that has legs) so...I'm hoping that in some ways and as always in the ways of the "great drama god's" he has paid a healthy price for atonement in the debt owed to NMH

     

    2) Of course, you are right, his target was JMR and being right under her nose for the coup de gras was what he envisioned as the way he wanted to serve her his revenge - COLD - with a glass of chianti and some fava beans.   However, there still has to be a part within our viewing experience that shouted!! enough already!!! off with their head!! Justice! Consequences!!  I don't know about you, but there were times I wanted to snatch JMR bald!  And as for me, I would not have been able to hold it in as long as he did.  I would have been satisfied to blurt things out sooner than wait until he did.  Even his friend YJoo was ready to launch a tsunami of pain at the Jang's and had to be held back by KPJ.  Just my thoughts....anyway....

    @kismet22  The thing what gets me about JBC is that he thinks KPJ used him and made him a victim of the circumstances when it's his mom that has brought this upon him..  Even after finding out he's not of that family bloodline one would think to try and come up with a alternate plan if he is kick out.. But no instead like you said he wants to blame everyone but the one person he should be blaming.. (just like a spoiled child going off on the deep end if mommy says no) He will never see all that's happen to him is of his on making with the help of mommy dearest.. What bothers me the most is that he thinks KPJ really responsible for his divorce when it's his mom and G/pa started the mess from the beginning.. All KPJ did was urge her to leave as he knew things would get ugly in the household and she could have end up getting killed.. Because from the very beginning JBC couldn't protect himself now how would he protect her.. JMR planned to kill her one way or another.. She would have waited to JBC took his guard down when it came to NMH but she would have got the job done and eventually he would move on and she knew this..  Even of it took her harming herself as her weapon to make him do as she likes, Like she always done..

     

    G/pa and JMR in the past two episodes has tried every way to hurt KPJ with hurtful words bit I loved how he never showed them one ounce of iota to what was coming from there mouths instead he gives it back to them ten folds..  I say yes to KPJ keeps serving her and G/pa they best dishes served cold..

     

    I expect uncle to send Yc for a meeting with his eldest nephew trying to play the carrying uncle role..

    For me KPJ came back in the form of his dad to seek revenge on them all, The brother and father for not protecting his children and t JMR for being the cold hearted witch that she is   

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  12. 1 hour ago, fragglerock said:

    I expect the congressman will reveal all and drag KPJ into it, but he will expect that anyhow to fix everything that has happened.,  I think time jump will happen to his release and congressman will also welcome him as well due the fact he protected him and his daughter from being killed.

    @fragglerock  The most time KPJ will do is 6 months.. Granted KPJ came up with the plans but it's the other parties that decided to do it..

    For the sake of helping one another..  If her dad had succeeded in his plans for the presidency position even after knowing she was sold by her dad she would still be married to JBC so I find what she's doing is ridiculous in some ways.. I thnk she just wants to get back at KPJ for not revealing himself to her early on since she loved him all that time even after being married to JBC she still long for him which leaves me to believe she wasn't happy in NY as some thinks they were..

       

    KPJ had no say so in how the slush fund should be directed and beside it was KPJ who gave his own money to congressman NA. Which there is no law that said he couldn't donate to a presidential election.. This is apart of most viewers seems to be forgetting.. Congressman NA money didn't come from Cheong A it came from KPJ pocket because Uncle JSM stole the money that was supposed to be handed to Congressman NA..  This is something else KPJ will slap in G/pa face if the time comes Uncle and he is going to have to pay the price for..

     

    This is the reason ti my thinking KPJ telling NMH to do what she likes and that's to expose it all because he has not did anything wrong that she thinks he has..

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  13. 5 hours ago, SeGafanlady said:

    PS : let KPJ rule Cheong A and I bet the group will multiply like crazy since the man is a total genius... for the sake of its huge amount of employees.. the grandpa can die or rotten in jail tho..

    @SeGafanlady  Death is to good for G/pa he needs to sit and watch as KPJ does things with Cheong A  taking higher them he could even imagine with the exception he has nothing to do with the companies anymore.. Giving him to authority at all in said business..  Just saying if the old coot is to be killed off I want him to die after he gives the satisfaction to his bed mate the opportunity to throw JMR out.. I mean she told G/pa she can't have her sitting at her table.. G/pa look at her like you barley sitting here yourself and yet you trying to run someone out..

    Next week it should be they showdown (G/pa and JMR) because G/pa hasn't even started with her yet. I want to see how he goes at JMR will he have her and JBC clothes at the door as soon as JBC  is released from the hospital, Or will he give the bed mate the pleasure of dropping them off at the hospital ?

     

    5 hours ago, africandramalover said:

    KPJ must be reading from that book, 48 Laws Of Power or some Machiavelli type war strategy book. If I recall, one of these books says that you should absolutely destroy and obliterate your opposition. Do not let them come up for air. Crush them and kill them and do not give them a chance to regroup. If you let them regroup, they come back even stronger and destroy you. 

    When KPJ told JMR that he is suing her, I just laughed as I remembered those war strategies. He is destroying her and should finish her off, if he is to survive.

    @africandramalover  I'm sure KPJ has been around her and G/pa to know this.. The finale blow to her is when it's revealed in public that JBC isn't a Jung naming his Bio father this will strip her and JBC of any power they think they could have left riding on the Jung name only to survive..  All she's thinking of is how to be seen as the woman behind this so called iron curtain of Cheong A, not realizing what detriments this is going to cause not only to JBC but her daughter to.. I still question her birth to this day..

    4 hours ago, imgreatgal said:

    JMR is hopless. She raised the white flag but the very next day colluded with JSM to remove JEC. hahaha just like gramps...every which way but loose. 

    @imgreatgal  KPJ anticipated this move from JMR why you think he delivered her another blow in the car and yet she still went back to JSM with accepting 60 40 deal only to have KPJ kill two birds with one stone.. Sending JSM to prison out the door went G/pa and JMR plans. YC can't do anything because as of now he should be off trying to hide any assets they have in order to survive.. As KPJ told G/pa in the end he himself right along with all the rest better get good lawyers.:lol:

     

    4 hours ago, imgreatgal said:

    I just had a thought that JEC's plans on revenge was made easy by JBC not being of Jangs bloodline. JEC doesn't even know this until 5years ago. Wouldn't it have been difficult for JEC to remove JBC from the chairmanship if he was of Jang bloodline. JEC trained and nurtured JBC to the chairman position. I wondered what would have been his strategy to remove him if he is a Jang lineage

    This was the revenge he was going after it wasn't because of JBC he plan to make JMR give it to him herself.. She knows it's rightfully his and so do G/pa..  Just think of KPJ reveals G/pa so called children or JSM has other children out of wedlock besides Yc  the board and stockholder will be ready to get rid of the Jungs so fast out of this company or it will end up being sold off..   Then he will realizes why KPJ never wanted to take the name Jung it's a lowlife last name and has been tainted for decades.

    3 hours ago, kismet22 said:

    6)  Everything Grandpa has done has been for Cheong A. Nothing matters. Not his sons or grandsons.  Even his own blood have suffered at the altar of his monument to himself.  Cheong A.  It would be poetic justice if KPJ as Chairman gave it away to all of the illegitimate Jang children...

    @kismet22  My sentiments exactly.. Let G/pa realizes who the robber really is as he himself has rob women of there innocents.. It would be good if KPJ takes part of that 4 billion he has stashed away and pay them and kids off as well as they mothers it would serve him another part of justice he deserves. 

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  14. 4 hours ago, africandramalover said:

    Most hilarious moment... when JMR kicks the concubine out of the dining room!! hahahahaha!:D. And grandpa just watches and co-signs the poor treatment of his bed-warmer from the criminal?!?!?!!! Grandpa watches JMR in silence. The concubine stomps off to be served in the kitchen.....Grandpa then casually mentions that he is going to throw out JBC and JMR from the house.... that was too funny!!

     

    Worse, JMR and KPJ are talking in his car. JMR tells KPJ that she accepts that he has won and she has raised her white flag. She expect sthe mercy given to those who surrender, but KPJ immediately tells her that he is collecting his inheritance shares plus back-taxes. How cruel!! hahahahaha!

    @africandramalover  What she killed to keep and not wanting to let the bio children if this man have anything is taking it all.. Even Kpj don;t believe in her truce flag he reads her like a book inside out.. He tells her himself that he knows her from head to toe.. Her sitting in the car crying like that was priceless.. Did she really think that he would just let her and JBC leave with everything.. Seeing the situation there in I expect JMR to start going public with the story of the old chairman killed his son for money just to plummage the stock and do damage to the company.. She wants to make the old man pay for what he did to JBC even if it means telling the world that KPJ is a Jung and G/pa tried to frame him of killing JBC .. JMR is the type if she can't have it all she will destroy it just like the husband and kids..

    3 hours ago, bebebisous33 said:
    9 hours ago, mimisl123 said:

    Finally I got to watch the episodes with subs. I don't know where all this will head in the last two. I feel sorry for JBC now to be quite honest. Also what's NMH thinking, she kissed KPJ and now she's trying to send him to jail??? Like what. Finally the divorce happened but she was still thinking about how JBC asked her to turn at him if he cannot break up and the ring is still with her. And comes to meet KPJ and saying that all three should have left Mooshimwon. I wonder whether they will end up together as KPJ goes to jail.

    I'm going to wait for the last two. Nothing we thought has happened so far and it once again shows the writer is thinking on another level :D

    I'm happy that the ratings were risen once again!!!! Now we need awards.

    I am not surprised by her action because it really underlines her honesty and uprightness. She is announcing KPJ what she plans so that KPJ can't say that she backstabbed him. But KPJ knew that NMH would do anything to punish people who committed a crime. However, the ones managing the slush fund have been JYC's mother and later JMR hence KPJ can only accused of being an accomplice. 

    In other words, NMH is the total opposite of JMR who commits many wrongdoings and sees nothing wrong in her action. Yes, JMR was a victim in the past too, as she was used by JKH and her father. But instead of fighting against them, she went along with their plan. 

    @bebebisous33 & @mimisl123  JMR and YC mother will be held responsible for the foundation mess all KPJ did was what he was told to do but it's JMR and YC mother signatures on it all

     

    3 hours ago, mimisl123 said:

    You have some good points there, but it is not solely KPJ's crime even her father accepted money from Cheong A. So like i said she will know what things to omit when revealing the truth so that neither KPJ will get affected nor his plan will not be messed as they both know what they are going at.

    As for the ending of this drama i cannot even think of any way. However regarding KPJ&NMH they might prolly have an open ending.

    @mimisl123  For me a good ending will be that Cheong A is no longer ran by such greedy and evil people..  But NMH dad can't go without being under investigation.. 

     

    1 hour ago, Katrina Abdul Talib said:

    NMH witnessed 1st hand watching young KPJ walked into the river.. twice..to end his life, she saved him. I am sure she understood his pains. The pains of losing his little brother.. the mental torment and life if his late mum plus the death of his foster father. He is all for family.

     

    Whereas her father had a choice but succumbed himself to greed of "power" even sacrificing his beloved daughter to achieve his goals.

     

    NMH will realise this.. I am sure she will finally spare KPJ.

    @Katrina Abdul Talib  She should afterall he saved her fathers life.. Sending KPJ to jail would be sending her father to jail.. To bad she's a victim of circumstances but it was her decision in the end and not KPJ just like her dad he's her biggest enemy if this is the case..

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  15. 5 hours ago, maddymappo said:

    The relationship between KPJ and JBC is the most tragic. KPJ was using JBC from the get-go. JBC did want him as a friend. He became his whipping boy, and went to jail for him. But JBC"s attachment was real.  I wonder how JBC feels about his mother murdering KPJ"s brother?   We don't see him thinking on this very much. How can the info that your parent murdered a child really mean nothing to him?  When he finds out his mother murdered his bio father - that should hit harder (at least I hope so).   JBC also has to cope with the fact that his grandfather had him burned alive.  And NMH divorced him.   His situation is very depressing.  I wish he would also walk away and study the piano again. 

     

    JMR and grandpa are so disgusting I can't imagine an ending that would do their evil justice.  I suppose KPJ has that worked out.

    @maddymappo  KPJ wants JMR to feel the same lost of breath that his brother did,, In the end she'll be grasping for breath just to survive her and JBC both because not a one could survive without Mooshiwin or the help of KPj who they became to depended on..  Also your right it's still not registering that his mother killed two people for him I guess when he learns of who Mr. Oh is it would hit him.. His mother killed his father.. JMR has killed off the only person that could help her..Not by much at this point but he would do it for his son sake 

     

    G/Pa and JMR  in order for them to feel anything is to strip money and power from the both of them.. This isn't hard for KPJ but for G/pa removing him from all his authority and having KPJ succeed in something he couldn't do should be the justice he deserve having KPJ to build Cheong A towers and he has no say in this matter would be icing on his cake ..

     

    5 hours ago, mimisl123 said:

    I think KPJ will take his revenge on the Grandfather and spare JBC and prolly JMR.I get that feeling because he went and threatened Grandpa not to touch them as it is his business to getting rid of them as he pleases. He will let those two walk out Mooshimwon without any harm as JBC is only left with JMR after all.

     

    What do you all think guys??

    @mimisl123  I don't see how JMR could avoid jail time her or JBC.. I wouldn't say that KPJ is taking his mother from him it's just she needs to pay for her crimes and so should he even if there corporate crimes, Crimes and Sins always has to answer to justice and G/pa is no exception.. 

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  16. 10 hours ago, UnniSarah said:

    Now chingu's in one of the clips, I see JKH crying. Why is he crying? It looks sincere very emotional. Seeing him cry made me so mad because he is so evil and deserve to be punished. 

    @UnniSarah  I thought whats up with him, I know he's not crying after what he's done.. I don't know who is more fake between JKH or JMR..  For the noble G/pa it's like he killed his son again.. KPJ is the last link to his dad.. But each time KPJ giving G/pa some much needed punishment it's like JSM came back himself to give them all what they deserve..

     

    Also I don't think KPJ has to worry about NMH dad I think he just shock he revealed himself so quick.. This is why he told NMH to do as she like because that slush fund was in JMR care she's responsible..

    8 hours ago, bebebisous33 said:

    The conversation between JSM and JKH was really disgusting: the way they seem themselves: pure blooded, noble aso! The Honorary Chairman has a really short memory: he wasn't a noble from the start, rather a common and lowly person. THESE JANG NEED TO BE PUT DOWN FROM THEIR PEDESTAL!!

    @bebebisous33  Now you know he's a descendant of the lowly slaves from the Joseon era who made a name for himself and with money he want's to say he's noble what a joke.. Somebody really needs to explain to G/pa what noble is..:lol: Nobles don't go around killing they G/kids just because they born out if wedlock.. They didn't do it in the Joseon era they just kept them around to work in the house but never would they kill them.. So yes I believe G/pa probably provoke JMR into killing those kids telling her that JEC would get it all since he's the oldest.. And we all know she couldn't have that..

        

     

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  17. 4 hours ago, kysy said:

    She's scared of him but is putting on a front, she doesn't feel any remorse for what she did to him and his family though. The tears were indeed crocodile tears, she was trying to appeal to KPJ's kindness while trying to trick him. KPJ gave her a chance to leave Cheong A with JBC within 3 days or else he would send her to jail for the murder of secretary Oh, which she "agreed" to. Her crying in the car is her trying to buy more time while she works with JSM to kick KPJ and the grandfather out. 

     

    JBC knows everything about KPJ by the end of episode 22. He knows his mother ordered the drowning  of KPJ and his mother/brother. Also he knows the reason KPJ chose him instead of JYC. 

    @kysy  JMR is back to her old tricks, Trick to try and survive by all means once she is made to give up those shares and JBC  is made to give up his so called rights to claim anything of what JMS has by any means necessary mother and son isn't going out without a fight.. They both is going to try and kill KPJ right along with G/pa this time G/pa may do the vice versa act frame JBC for murdering KPJ and send JBC to prison and JMR still walks away with nothing.. G/pa has been wanting to kick her out but KPJ is what kept them in that house..

     

    Now that JBC understands everything is should realize KPJ has every right to want to seek revenge for his family.. Once he learns if who is father his he see who is the real scumbag..

    Can't believe she (JMR) is ashamed of anyone knowing she slept with Mr.Oh until she got pregnant..

     

    Now when it comes to JSM  willingly marrying JMR I think G/pa is lying.. 10 to 1 G/pa threaten to kill his family if he didn't marry her.. Remember he's the man that killed his own son because he wouldn't give up his family.. Once JMR became pregnant he already out his plan in the making if getting rid of him.. Once JBC was born he executed this plan to the fullest because he had a replacement..  Still there is no talk of JBC sister which leads me to believe she was born out if wedlock and the condition fir G/pa to recieve the banks help one of his sons had to marry her and claim that child as his..  

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  18. Talk about a dysfunctional family.. How pure the Jang bloodline has to be in order to be claim in this family.. Is the old man brain dead or what..  It's no honor to be known related to them after all the dirt this family has. I still think KPJ should throw the old man azz in jail but it's fun watching him make G/pa his barking dog that everyone listens to G/pa should be ashamed of himself if KPJ reveals that his very own Bio G/pa tried to kill him because of who he is how would people view him in the light of day.. The board would vote to get rid of him so quick he wouldn't have time to blink his eyes..

     

    JBC I don't know what to say about him he's the cause of his divorce and yet he blames KPJ he still don't seem to see how he's a victim of his mother and fathers doing.. Now that he's going to have everything snatch from him and his mom he's going to try and kill KPJ if YC dumb azz don;t try and do it himself first .. These greedy people is all screwed up.. JMR still trying to keep whats not her by means,, Just shaking my head in this episode

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  19. 10 hours ago, bebebisous33 said:

    Striking is that JBC is always a step too late compared to his grandfather. JBC discovered that there was a secret room in YG's house because he heard NMH's cellphone ringing behind the wall. However, Jang Kook Hwan even sent men before him in order to take away the evidences KPJ had gathered against him over the years. JKH even knew where KPJ would have the evidences... in YG's house. Sure, he had no idea that where the room was. YG made a mistake by leaving it, when he heard the noise.

    So in the next episode, JBC goes himself there but there is nothing left. This proves to me that JBC is not a strong opponent to KPJ. JBC thinks that since he has become the chairman of Cheong A, he is powerful and will succeed in anything. But he is wrong to think so, even JSM got himself hurt in the process and died. 

    @bebebisous33  You would think after being raised and around the old tiger JKH  JBC would have pick up some traits from G/pa he's always a day later and a dollar short..  When will the bomb drop on JBC that his mother killed his father.. Will KPJ be sending her to jail next..?

     

    5 hours ago, triplem said:

    kpj rushed in. Jbc was semi conscious! Jbc gave him a look . KPJ looked shocked to see it was Jbc as well. Both still in the fire. I got a feeling grandpa set this up as they showed the old man face tearing up !

    @triplem Yes G/pa started that fire and KPj counter attack him by sending his son to the prosecutors office.. G/pa thinks he got all KPj evidence but as KPj told G/pa flunky he had hundreds of files on them all..

    4 hours ago, triplem said:

    Ep 22

    flashback of scene KPJ talking to JMR assistant. He realises something not right ,  he tries calling Jbc but Jbc phone died . H ask Yoong goo to track him. So found out he is headed fr the studio. KPJ manage to save him

    Brought him to hospital, he is unconscious with oxygen mask. Yoong goo calls him tells him about the message that Jbc received & I think someone has hacked into their cctv at the studio 

     

    So G/pa tried to kill JBC and frame KPJ for it that was the scenes with the three phones someone did a voice over of KPJ voice calling JBC there.. This old man is something else.. Just throw his old azz in prison where he belongs..

     

    4 hours ago, UnniSarah said:

    @triplem............. Thanks for live recap chingu. 

    I am shocked they tried to kill JBC. But why , why , why didn't JBC realized that becoming enemies with the person who gave you the world was a bad idea. LOL 

    @UnniSarah  That's because JBC is as stupid as they come he should have realized after all those years that KPj has been around and saw what he was capable of he should have just sat back and watch no he tried to flex his power only to be strip of his position by KPJ..  The fight between old man and G/son his just awesome..

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  20. On 1/24/2018 at 5:33 PM, UnniSarah said:

    @sava2sava  @bebebisous33  Wasn't it kinda freaky. That scene was so raw that I almost believe they were going to make out. The way she was leaning towards a kiss was  WOW WOW " MY JAW DROPPED AND RE WATCHED THE SCENE OVER AND OVER AGAIN". I think this will shatter her mind why do I say that. Well because sometimes I wonder "SIS SHE LOVE HER HUSBAND" If she did this well  this blow will be EPIC,SHE WILL WONDER WHAT IS WRONG WITH HER? HER HUBBY LOVED SOMEONE ELSE AND NOW KPJ/EC LOVES NA Mo Hyun. Both men she was loved fell for a woman who is independent, who didn't crave money or power meanwhile she was all about money and the power that came with it. 

    @UnniSarah  Yes this scene was epic.. I think @bebebisous33 wrote something on the lines of JMR was banking on JBC protection against anyone if she started to be in a relationship with her son mentor KPJ a man younger then her but more capable than any man r age group.. Look how Mr. Oh became a wimp she likes men of this nature and I don't think JMS was one of them   I also think another turn on for her with KPJ is her power to control everything and everyone around her so she thought..  Now she's back to square one from the very beginning the man she loves loves someone else.. Yes this is going to send her over the edge I don;t think she'll go after KPJ but she will go after the one person she knows he cares about and that's NMH for her it's to hurt KPJ but it's also a means to get rid of her to hook JBC up with someone else more suitable for him.. Little that she knows KPJ has already opened up her Pandora's box that she thought all her little secrets was safe in.. 

     

    I think she did fall in love with JMS but he never accepted this love I think he was a man of honesty and was straight with her from day one loving someone else and may have told her they will have there separate lives that they were only married on paper but not in the home.. They may have used separate bedrooms..

     

    So her wanting to wield power is understandable because she had seen her looks and her seductress behavior wasn't getting her what she wanted so this was the next thing for her to have in order to get people to do as she says..  

    17 hours ago, lu09 said:

    Thanks for the witthen preview chingu. Wow JMR, did u forget that uncle did a DNA test 5 years ago to confirm if JBC is a JANG? She just exposed herself :crazy:. She did KPJ a favor hahaha.

    @lu09   THANKS FOR THE WRITTEN PREVIEW..

    18 hours ago, kysy said:

    Written preview episodes 21 and 22:

     

    Jung Mal Ran reveals Pil joo's real identity to Jang Sung Man! Doubting Boo cheon's lineage, Sung-man attempts another DNA test! Meanwhile, Boo Cheon realizes that the reason Pil-Joo has hidden his identity is to take revenge on Jung Mal Ran...

    @kysy  Thank you also.. JMR trying to be slick she tells G/pa because she wants G/pa to get rid of KPJ himself she will never do her dirty work herself she uses other people.. I bet she tells him KPJ will get in JBC way.. If G/pa don't budge quick enough she'll use uncle to get rid of him not knowing this is his nephew..

    Do G/pa not trust his very own Dr ? Do he needs more confirmation that JBC isn't a Jang per him and mother conversation.. The old man just don't want to accept he's been had all these years..

     

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  21. 6 hours ago, bebebisous33 said:
    1. To me, KPJ knew that JMR would always be cautious, until her son has become the chairman. In order to make her fall for him completely, he needed time and use her attraction to him so that at some point, she would ignore the red flags. KPJ maintained their ambiguous relationship all this time. He knew that the moment Oh is sent away (and even killed) that JMR has already considered him as her potential lover. She doesn't need to be so careful like in the past as her son has now become the chairman. He has power and money to protect, besides JMR thinks that KPJ will do anything for her. Notice how she has dressed up for him. Moreover, she is wearing a white dress, just like a bride!! Champagne, the way she sits next to him... all this reminds me of a wedding night and honey moon. Finally, KPJ appears with a tuxedo... as if he was the groom!

    To conclude, KPJ had decided long ago to use sex appeal and sex as a weapon. It was as if he was tempting her to have sex with him but for that, he needed first to have her dream come true. So the meeting of JMR and KPJ in the last episode could be seen as a parallel to the night, where he tried to kill her with the knife. Whereas in the earlier episode, she had anticipated KPJ's reaction, this time the roles have been switched. He had anticipated her because he had trained her (champagne = good news aso). In other words, the knife has been replaced by the phallus. In the end, she thought, they would move to the next level, only to discover that the groom is in fact leaving her behind. There is no sex hence no wedding... it is as if he had ditched her at the altar.

    Very well analyzed @bebebisous33 JMR dressed in white was a symbol of her honeymoon to KPJ the one she's been waiting for until this moment she was ready to seal the deal especially since she got rid of OH for good and needed not to feel guilty towards a dead man.. She sees it as she still living and probably hadn't been touch by a man since  Oh was able to get her pregnant  with JBC.. So some cob webs needed to be dusted off her snatch and who better to do to non other then MR. KPJ himself it's no telling how long she's been dreaming of having him even if it was just for one night it would have been another dream of hers fulfilled..

     

    I wouldn't call the last scene between the two ditch at the altar just yet.  Right now they still in the honeymoon suite, Like he drop a gay-dar bomb on her :crazy::tongue::D But I'm looking forward to his departure leaving  that room and what she will try and do.. Will she try and make a deal with him because of all he knows about this family and JBC parentage.. My bet she will tell JBC to do as he wants because they could be kick out with nothing but JBC will have other thoughts and plans that's going to mess things up for all..

     

    I still think it would be JBC trying to destroy the company just to keep KPJ from getting any of it..

     

      

     

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