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  1. 7 hours ago, yoeda said:

    Han So Hee already taking interview. Is that mean, it's a wrap for her character? I think there's more to explore about them (her character and her child). IF BC gonna survive this, I wanna ship him to America to them. <_<

    @yoeda  Well She's another I'm going to enjoy the look on her face when she realizes after all she's done only to end up with a fake.. She knew telling NMH about her and JBC would be detrimental to her and a strong possibility of her losing her child which she was banking on.. I say heres the chance for NMH to get back at her.. I wish for her to thank her for opening her eyes to all the scum that lives in mooshinwin (whatever the correct name to that place is) adding the kicker  that JBC will be penniless and thrown out with the reasons why.. The funny part is she did all for her son to carry the last name Jang when the father last name is really not Jang..  I guess she will be really kicker herself in the behind when she realizes it's KPJ the one she should have been trying to seduce and sleep with at every nook and cranny in Cheong A building.. Well she always wondered what men like KPJ do there well now she'll find out.

     

    So that penthouse that JBC offered to KPJ that he planned on buying for him, I say send him and JMR to America without a dime because that was his plan for KPJ and to have him killed in America.. Put him and JMR in the nasty ghettos in New York where the rats are big as cats..

    4 hours ago, purplebass said:

    BC mad at MR would really break her, because not only her puppet #1 Pil Joo has been her enemy since the beginning and deceived her, even her puppet #2 doesn't want to have anything to do with her anymore. BC has daddy issues and has had a hard time growing up without a father as per his words and MH's in earlier episodes' words. So no wonder he'll despise his mother for taking his real father (and maybe even his non-biological father) killed. Although I think, after the convo between grandpa and Seong Man on EP 18, that he was the one who killed his bro Soo Man from  the way he talked to his dad.

    @purplebass  I thank this will becoming next JMR will lose both of her kids respect and maybe the possibility of them cutting ties to her.. I know Mr. Oh was a threat to her and JBC but she didn't have to go as far as to kill him.. 

     

    I'm looking forward to KPJ/JEC telling JMR that JBC knows of who he really is right along with MR.Oh  JBC real dad.. At this point her backstabbing threat to KPJj will mean nothing to him.. What will she do to JBC for not telling her.. Who will she get to do anything for her now .. OH she killed him off to soon.. Who will she turn to.. 

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  2. 11 hours ago, zinaa said:
     

    @bebebisous33

    @mimisl123 @0ly40 @evie7 @philosophie @UnniSarah @sava2sava @triplem  @2handsintertwined 

     

    Chingus ... I really enjoyed reading the few previous pages here.... the deep analysis for all  characters and storyline would make writer nim proud or a little freaked  out because of it...

     

    i only have one thought ... the pure dedication and respect that KPJ/JEC receive from his friend and the people who work behind the curtains like Yong goo the doctor the house secretary and many others... I think at lest one or two are actually belong to the jang family directly or indirectly.... because money can't buy loyalty ever... 

     

     

    I forget to mention @purplebass sorry chingu (love you)

     

    @zinaa  Maybe secty Han is also KPJ/Half sister that JMR tried to get rid if or she was kept hidden away..Maybe she switch her child with the real child she's more then capable of doing that maybe even brought in a fake girl child..She will snatch everything that was giving to her because she's that type of person. Her greed knows no bounds and she will want a return for what she gave.. 

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  3. KPJ/JEC said he was in charge of eliminating kids that was born out of wedlock.. Have any of you thought on the lines of how many kids G/pa probably fathered and not claiming..? I was just thinking back to the one scene when KPJ/JEC threaten to throw the man off the roof of the building.. He was claiming himself to be G/pas child..

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  4. 18 minutes ago, mimisl123 said:
    31 minutes ago, sava2sava said:

      Maybe this is another card KPJ/JEC got up his sleeve to G/pa the revealing of JBC real dad :D I also think when the time comes he will have JMR arrested for murder because as of now G/pa still don't know Oh has left and the fact of him being dead.. I really believe she and JBC bio dad killed JMS..

    Possibilities.. Possibilities! :D:D Will see on Saturday.

     

    @mimisl123  KPJ/JEC must have the morgue holding MR.Oh body or having and autopsy done.. He needs MR.Oh body for two reasons 

    1. To prove who JBC parents is

    2. JMR is a murder..

    JBC is so behind when it comes to catching up with KPJ/JEC.. These two people could be the very reason I think JBC will hand everything over to KPJ/JEC without a fight.. The real owner of Cheong A will be KPJ.JEC because he has the means and ammo to send them all to jail including G/pa.. The man only want him to address him per his permission I say drag that Jang name throw the mud.. I wish for KPJ/JEC have all of them on there knees begging for mercy especially, JBC JMR and G/Pa Jang..

     

    This still makes me question JMR daughter is she also MR.Oh child who is her father ? Will we get answers to thus question 

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  5. 3 minutes ago, mimisl123 said:

    That Recorder Pen was kept by the Secretary before the scenes where JMR asking Sec Oh to leave, NMH asking for the divorce & JBC talking about two fathers with JMR. So ironically there should be all those 3 recordings in the pen but we only saw the last.

    @mimisl123  Maybe this is another card KPJ/JEC got up his sleeve to G/pa the revealing of JBC real dad :D I also think when the time comes he will have JMR arrested for murder because as of now G/pa still don't know Oh has left and the fact of him being dead.. I really believe she and JBC bio dad killed JMS..

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  6. 3 hours ago, bebebisous33 said:
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    Self-injuring behaviour can help to reduce psychological tensions, especially with regard to the reduction of resentment, anger, rage but also fear and depressive feelings. It's called an emotional regulation. Yes, even positive feelings can arise afterwards, namely relaxation, rest, but in any case the unfortunate situation somehow seems to experience an unusual but apparently feasible control of reality. However, it is also relatively early on and at least with some of the affected shame feelings are developed, which in turn can lead to a vicious circle.

    JMR is always stressed and displeased, when she injures her hand with her nail. Nevertheless, she is always calmed down afterwards. All this fits to the description above. However, I doubt that in JMR's case that she is embarrassed with her habit. Her wound is always on her hand which is quite visible, moreover she doesn't even try to hide it. So her mutilation sends a signal to her surroundings. Notice how JBC reacts, when he sees it. He feels guilty and pained. Usually, people with self-injuring behaviour try to hide their wounds. To conclude, as time passed on, she used this to get support from the men as well. She turned her illness into a tool in my opinion. 

     

    21 minutes ago, triplem said:

    Release tension associated with strong emotions or overwhelming thoughts.

    This could also apply to her the strong emotional desires to have KPJ

    This is exactly what she did.. She used this form very well this is how I expect she got Mr.Oh to do her dirty business he must have felt sorry watching her being rejected by a man that never loved her or wanted anything to do with her..  Once she realized putting on a show like this can get her what she want or what she wanted done she still used this same tool to control her son.. Noticed she never let G/pa see her in such a state nor has not even her wounds when there covered.. I was thinking of the scene when Mr.Oh ask KPJ to go and comfort her because she needed it at that time.. By this time Mr.Oh was only there for JBC and must have thought he was so out of her picture by now..

     

    I'm wondering do Asst Han also get a recording of Mr.Oh and JMR conversation of them discussing there son together.. 

     

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  7. 5 hours ago, bebebisous33 said:

    I feel sorry for Sec Oh to be honest. How evil is that woman JMR, killing people is her hobby. As someone here mentioned when JBC learns that he was his biological father and JMR poisoned him I think he will realize that KPJ was also a victim of JMR’s evil deeds and he will leave everything no matter how greedy he is for money.

    Now that Grandfather knows that JBC is not a Jang he will be compelled to take out JBC from controlling Cheong A and give it to the real eldest son JEC. He might not like it but it will be still better for him than having a fake Jang manage it. When Grandfather asked JEC what his intention, was it to become the chairman h never responded which goes to say JEC is not after titles or money he wants to destroy Cheong A along with the Jangs --> post from @mimisl123

    Striking is that KPJ only revealed JBC's secret very late. Sure, he could have used a DNA test but Jang would have doubted the result. He wanted a better evidence: This secret should be mentioned by JBC himself. JBC said that he discovered it 5 years ago... Jang will have to investigate how this discovery was made: JYC was the one who ordered the DNA test. But he will realize that KPJ could have revealed it much earlier. Why didn't he do it before?

     

    @bebebisous33  At this point G/pa ill give the company to YC just to spite KPJ/JEC.. I was rooting for him to take that company but now I want him to destroy it all..

     

    Granted JBC parentage came a Lil late, But giving G/pa attitude he wouldn't have believe a DNA from someone else .. I think KPJ played this card very well making the old man realizes he's been had all this time no better way for him to discover it none other then listening to mother and son discussion about his bio father.. This is a good lesson taught to G/pa for denying his G/kids from the beginning..   

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  8. 5 hours ago, kohnlee said:

    Grandpa is the real schemer! He knows things but pretends he don’t - Congressman Na is Alive

    @kohnlee  After watching ep 19 again I find G/pa very petty he went out if his way to belittle KPJ for not having a father but isn't JBC the same he was raised without a father. G/pa tried every way possible to hurt KPJ with his words regarding his linage even after the facts of knowing he's really his bio G/son he still wouldn't stop with his low comments .. I say KPJ send his azz straight to jail like you said don;t let his azz pass go nor will he collect $200.00 for his meals he needs to be taught a good lesson  and KPJ is the one to give it to him like the Jang name mean so much to him drag it in the mud ti were he would wish it wasn't his last name..

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  9. 18 minutes ago, SeGafanlady said:

    talking about genetic.... Jang Boo Cheon is a true fake Jang... he can never win to Jang Eun Cheon... 

    he thinks he was the smartass...too bad he inherited his biological father (Secretary Oh Ki Pyung) gene... not his mom.. no wonder Pil Joo is always able to outsmart Boo Cheon in a minute... even when this moron showed off to Pil Joo in front of Chairman Jang, Pil Joo managed to be the underdog again and laughing at last.... Kang Pil Joo is a Legend! He even dared to ask Chairman Jang to not call him "his grandson" without his permition... this guy is freaking genius... Chairman Jang finally met his match.

    @SeGafanlady  My sentiments exactly.. None of them is a match for KPJ/JEC not even G/pa.. Don;t you dare call me your G/son without my permission..  DAEBEK.. I was really cheering KPJ on He let's G/pa know he don't need him to be recognized.. At this point I wish he destroy it all.. Poor JBC always a day late and a dollar short.. He so on the losing end.. Sensing KPJ pictures of a nice place when all the tie he's only thinking of placing him in the gutters were he's the one that actually belongs there..

     

    I bet after G/pa listened to that recording gave him a lot of answers to some lingering questions..:huh:

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  10. 23 minutes ago, lu09 said:

    lol. Now I'm only waiting for uncle and cousin's reaction. Boy it will be so good. I'm waiting for the eng subs, there was too much talking today. 

    @lu09  This is what I'm looking forward to uncle and cousin reaction to it all knowing KPJ/JEC is none other then nephew and first cousin.. But knowing uncle he would also not want KPJ/JEC to be recognized as family because KPJ/JEC always have outwitted him and son remember it was nephew that got him kick out if his presidency position..  Boy if you think about it KPJ/JEC has so much on them all.. G/pa thinks stealing all what was there is enough to stop him but where his KPJ/JEC keeps getting all these records from to thow in G/pa's face after everything was supposed to be stolen..:unsure:

     

    What will the other lawyer think when it's found out that he's G/pa real G/son and JBC isn't:crazy:  

     

    Well Guy's gotta go work is calling bye for now..

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  11. 49 minutes ago, UnniSarah said:

    What if the housekeeper is actually KPJ's mother the older version or plastic surgery version.... OKay Let me stop with the craziness. LOL LOL Just playing everyone. I think that is  good possibility that the housekeeper is helping him. She was also the one to gush how Kang Pil Joo eats his noodles just like The Honorable Chairman. smh smh smh  I wonder when did she start helping him? Did she know from the moment he started living there or years later.  

    @UnniSarah  I think she found out later on after he was living there.. Maybe one day she cleaned his room and saw the necklace there with the picture inside of it and out two and two together.. You know she had to hear those arguments about his outside family and thought this is what they get JMR herself brought the kid she wanted so dead into the home..

     

    45 minutes ago, philosophie said:

    thank you for that vid of JMR and KPJ scene. My initial reaction (didn’t see actual episode so don’t know full extent of that scene but judging based on the clip) was THEY ARE SOOOOOO NOT PLATONIC (background people: DUHHHHHHH!) !!!!! That time JBC and NMH went to NY and JMR wrist grabbed KPJ and the door closed-did they do it? LMS interviews state otherwise and that they just have a ‘trusting’ relationship but c’mon guys, even though I hate JMR, it’s so obvious she has amazeballs sexual tension with KPJ. On KPJs side, I can see that he’s just wearing a mask that can manipulate JMR and he’s literally dropping a bomb on her at her highest yet most vulnerable moment. I thought it was brilliantly done and of course it does have more impact when he double, well triple betrays her, because it’s on three levels; professional as her secretary, business cause he’s the real heir to chairman position, and personal cause he just reject yooo nasty self! Only more hand clawing at herself to come now on JMRs part...KPJ I’m scared he’s gonna be killed by grandpa because he poses a thread of knowing too much. Or have him be shadow of JYC who will be chosen as next chairman since gpa is all for reputation and he can’t just bring in his underdog as the top dog.

    @philosophie  The real kicker to it all is that KPJ/JEC knows her most biggest secret JBC isn't related to that family at all..

    JMR is going to tell KPJ/JEC that it was G/pa idea to kill them as he we tell her he's well aware and deliver her another blow that by now G/pa is well aware of JBC not being his father child per her and JBC conversation..

     

    Do you think KPJ/JEC  wasn't prepared for them trying to kill him once he reveals himself as of now G/pa has no other choice but to bounce by his tunes or like i said have the biggest scandal in Korean history to unfold right before his eyes and no way to stop it.. I think KPJ/JEC set all this up to legally take everything away from JMR and her illegitimate son.. Most Korean culture has always been that the eldest Child or G/child recieves the parent wealth and I'm sure G/pa set something up to this situation in writing to try and keep JMS other kids from getting anything.. As of now everything of his fathers will go to him including anything that JMR has because she cheated this family..  I'm liking the idea of JBC getting on national TV resigning and turning over all rights and possession to KPJ/JEC..

     

    1 hour ago, bebebisous33 said:

    @sava2sava and @UnniSarah It would be a really good twist, if it turns out that the housekeeper in Mooshinwon had recognized JEC in the end. From her words, it seems that she knew JSM quite well: the grandfather giving the necklace to him, the necklace in the frame aso. But she can not be JEC's mother in my opinion. His mother wanted him to live far away from the Jang because he had no power. Moreover, JMR would have recognized her. She had met JEC's mother at the funeral.

     

    About the last cliffhanger: I believe that JMR will try to use the necklace she took from NMH in order to prove that JSM had acknowledged him as his son, even if she has to confess that JBC is not JSM's biological father. She can only use that as a point. But what she doesn't know is: she only received the necklace from JEC's brother, where there is no picture. On the other hand, JEC has the necklace with a picture of himself with his father. By bringing the second necklace in front of the grandfather, JMR will be put in a difficult spot because the existence of the second son will come to the ears of the chairman. By having two sons with the so called mistress, JSM proved to his father that JEC, his mother and his brother were considered by JSM as his true family. The second son got born just after JBC. If my predicition is correct, we can clearly see that KPJ is two steps ahead of JBC and JMR. I don't think that NMH will be used by KPJ in order to prove JMR's lie: JSM never gave her the necklace, in fact NMH had to give the necklace to JMR because he wants to keep her safe. On the other hand, JBC and JMR could lie in front of the grandfather and NMH gets aware of it so that she tells the truth to the grandfather.    

     

    @bebebisous33  Liking the fact in a sly way she will be revealing herself that JMS had another child with KPJ/JEC mother and G/pa learns that she killed him, Her and JBC real Dad Mr.Oh.. I some how think this will come into play next week with DNA results proving him to be MR. Oh child but NMH promised to never reveal JBC secret.. At this point what will NMH do will she throw the man she's married to under the bus or stick it to KPJ/JEC per her revenge towards him..  All NMH has to say is that JBC never gave her the necklace but JMR ask for it from her.. This wouldn't be revealing JBC secret.. 

     

    Yes but KPJ/JEC is two step ahead of them.. So if G/pa wants to play dumb and blind and try and kill him he's not the only one that knows whats going on there's YG also.. 

     

    Maybe G/pa will enlist uncle and Yc to kill them all..:angry: 

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  12. Come to think of it I bet it's the old housekeeper that was helping KPJ/JEC all this time I bet she knew who he was..  Remember just anyone mentioned he was sick she was the first one to brew him soup and give him medicine.. She also cooked his favorite foods it has to be her because she knows the full story behind the necklace.. Which leaves me to think she saw him with the necklace when he first came there and told him to hide it away so no one would know who he really is fearing that another one if the man kids would come up dead.. She may also know about Mr.Oh and JMR.. People like her work in that home to long not notice things and seen things.. It would be funny if she admits she stayed this long only to serve her real master..:tongue: 

     

    @bebebisous33  This is the reason I think the old housekeeper is still around per your comment..

     

     

     

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  13. 32 minutes ago, UnniSarah said:

    Kang Pil Joo played the grandfather and JMR.

    @UnniSarah  Yes this episode was he icing on the cake.. He knew telling G/pa of JBC linage wouldn't have had no effect because the old man wouldn't have believed him so what better way to revel who JBC really is by listening at mother and son conversation and both of them talking of him not being the man son..  EPIC 

     

    KPJ/JEC delivering blows to G/pa one after another..  Whats next.. ?

     

    38 minutes ago, UnniSarah said:

    JMR was really was mesmorized by KPJ and really wanted him to kiss her. WOW WOW WOW :wub::wub:   W I almost believed he was going to kiss and amazing  acting in acting for a scene...... 

    She was like some high school girl going to the prom with her first love.. The scene in her room was like they skip the prom and went straight to the room were champagne was ready to conceal the deal.. Loved the part were she was ready for his kiss only to whisper in her ear words she never wanted to hear..

    KILLED MR.OH TO SOON HER ONLY FLUNKY..

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  14. 47 minutes ago, AgnesO said:

    Ahh, i'm already tearing my hair.... what a cliffhanger!

    @AgnesO  We thought last week was and epic cliffhanger this one is even better.. This drama is good at giving us ultimate cliffhangers

     

    51 minutes ago, lindy01 said:

    Gosh! What an ending. JMR looking like a bride with KPJ!

     

    @lindy01  :lol: LMAO .. Did she think she could seduce him like it was they honeymoon JBC secession to Chairmanship was her right ti sleep with him only to have her biggest fears slap her right in the face..

     

    Now that I think about it JMR was the mistress I don't think she was legally married to JMS.. Who is next to die G/pa ?

     

    40 minutes ago, triplem said:

    Omg . She (JMR) thought her dreams of having him finally came through. The way he touched her confirms to us that he knew she had always had a thing for him. So he used that in a way to crush her heart to a million pieces & announced to her face that he is the boy she tried to murder. Daebak!!!

    @UnniSarah JMR loves no one but herself!  She probably also manipulated Sec oh’s affections for her all this while. Him dying in her hands is no surprise. This woman deserves a life sentence behind bars 

    @triplem  That's one helluva a video love the scene.. JH revealed himself to her was the Daebak.. JMR was already to let KPJ/JEC bed her willing as some former pay she owed him and in return she and son really owes him.. He could lock the two of them up for life.. He so much dirt on mother and son..  

     

    Can someone please post a video or a picture if G/pa learning of JBC not his Bio G/son  

    Thank You

     

     

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  15. 22 minutes ago, purplebass said:

    We hear the recording is exactly what PJ heard: BC paternity issue. Grandpa is shocked.

    MR and PJ drink champagne in his room (we hear Claire the Lune by Debussy in the bg... LOL). MR touches his cheek after a long speech but he removes her hand away and kisses it... He tells her "this is the last time..." then he hugs her and whispers something in her eear. He says "Jang Eun Cheon is alive..." and she asks "what are you saying?" and he seems to reveal that "Eun Cheon is Kang Pil Joo". He told her!!! he said "I'm Jang Eun Cheon, Son Man's son." MR is petrified.

    END

    Loving this part @purplebass  I bet the look on both faces was priceless for G/pa and JMR..  I kind of thought he wasn't aware of JBC birth.. It's no way he would have allowed JMR to kill off his G/son if he had known JBC wasn't of his bloodline..  Now I'm more convienced that JMR and Mr.Oh did something to kill off JMS.. She had to kill him because he knew to much and no way would she want anyone to connect JBC bloodline to MR. Oh..

     

    Now for those who mentioned KPj/JEC teaming up with G/pa the time as come.. I think it's going to come down to JBC and JMR giving everything up and leaving quitely  or be drugged through the mud faces plastered every where in the biggest scandal in Korea.. 

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  16. 17 hours ago, philosophie said:

    I definitely think it was JBCs henchman (was that Secretary OH who hit young goo? By frame and body it looked like someone else not JBC or oh, maybe new guy hired by JBC) who assaulted YG and followed MH to her house. Ughh I cannot wait for her to finally break up with JBC. Woah looks like he has a new hairstyle btw, what’s with that? Maybe a symbol to his inner character transformation?

    Hello All. A well all waiting patiently for today's episode  I notice something and thought I'll give some insight to your questioni

    @philosophie Yes it was JBC who sent the man after YG but if you notice he has the same body frame as YC .. So my thoughts are JBC will frame YC for YG murder.. He needs everyone out of the way of his session to become chairman as long as YC is around he still  is a bigger threat then KPJ/JEC as of now JBC trying to kill two birds with one stone by pitting cousin against cousin..  We all watch him witness YC still trying to provoke KPJ who don't give him the time of the day..

     

    JBC cry-full tears to NMH were all fake he's the man that can't afford to take no prisoner and as of now he has to many weaknesses//

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  17. 4 hours ago, mimisl123 said:

    Grandfather and KPJ/JEC will team up. He's doing the DNA test just to confirm that it's his eldest grandson. The reason they will pair up is that the old man never liked JMR and JBC. It was all because KPJ's plans that they could still love inside Mooshimwon. 

    4 hours ago, mimisl123 said:

    JBC is currently in the mind set of doing anything to be in that vice chairman position so he's just taking down people who is going to get in his way. (Just like his mother )

     

    @mimisl123  I think once the DNA is confirmed G/pa is going to throw a monkey wrench in JBC program and announce KPJ as chairman and this is going to send him over the edge.. It's either he's going to kill off the old man or kill KPJ.. If it's the old man he will enlist Mr Oh help then again he will go after them both, Because at this point he don;t know how much KJP has revealed to G/pa..

     

    4 hours ago, bebebisous33 said:

    @mimisl123 In my opinion, NMH will realise that her proposition is impossible as JBC will never allow them to leave. Moreover, I sense that NMH will discover that JBC is after KPJ. Moreover, the other reason for her change of mind could be that she finally gets the answer to her question: why did he live under a false identity? His life has always been in danger, even his brother got killed. I hope, this week she connects the story told by YSW and KPJ. 

     @bebebisous33 & @mimisl123  Have you guys ever thought it could be JBC she asking to leave with her ?

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  18. 10 hours ago, chowderina89 said:

    What does it means the subtle smile on grandpa face when he was looking at KPJ? Maybe he is accepting him as his nephew? I kind of feel sad for JBC for losing NMH, but everything started because of him..after all he will end either a murderer like his parents or dead i guess..i do think it will end with a happy ending or an open ending for our leaders, KPJ&NMH..JMR will go insane or commit suicide maybe

    @chowderina89 Most likely dead his parents got unanswered karma that they got to pay for and the sins falls upon there children especially when you kill others kids fir your children sake.. 

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  19. 1 hour ago, mimisl123 said:

    Thanks. But young goo is murdered right? And will KPJ leave behind his original intention of taking revenge and go away with NMH?  Now his beloved friend Young Goo was also murdered. 

    I really want to see a nice ending but now I doubt it very much. This is so sad!!!!!

    @mimisl123  I just don't see KPJ / JEC stopping everything to leave with her.. Remember this is a man that gave her up for his revenge plan.. How is leaving with NMH justify whats been done to his family after learning of this fake family.. His revenge is the climax to the story we have to have a satisfactory ending to the revenge part of the story anyway..

     

    No way will JEC  let JBC get away with what he's done to YG..

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  20. On 1/16/2018 at 10:19 PM, bebebisous33 said:

    1.Yes, this would explain why JMR is so anxious about the past, not just because she is afraid that her crime could be discovered. So far, there is no evidence that could link her to the death of JEC's brother. She is not the one who killed him.

     

    2.Her anxiety can have another cause: the legality of her situation. Notice how she got shocked, when the grandfather told her that he knew that she had gotten rid of the child. She got scared because if the grandfather had digged a little further, he could have discovered something else: JSM was legally married to someone else.

     

    3.It was not just about the knowledge of the crime. I don't think that JKH knows about the murder of his grandson.

     

    4.To me, he thought, she would have sent away the mistress with the child. His words to JMR revealed that JKH had no idea about the existence of the two grandchildren. 

     

    5.JBC has become just like his mother and father: he is not afraid of blood any longer. Just like his mother, he orders someone who has to do the dirty work.

     

    6.But we shouldn't forget that Oh felt remorse for his crime. The question is out of love will he follow his son's order? It would be great, if this time, Oh decides to not accept the order because he doesn't want his son to become a murderer. 

    @bebebisous33  1. When it comes to linking her to the crimes her past with Mr Oh and JBC is enough to link her to those crimes granted she didn't do the crime herself but she's a part of premeditated murder all to protect her child.. I just don't see how she can get away  with just saying she didn't know nor instructed MR Oh.. No way can she say he acted on his own..

    This leads me to think on Mr.Oh relationship with G/pa.. Did G/pa have Mr.Oh to kill the wife turning him into the murder that he is and JMR found out about it.?

    This could be the very reasons she seduced MR.Oh and got him to do her deeds instead of her own hands being bloody.. Nothing could change the fact that she's responsible and these are crimes she has to pay for.. We just needs to connect her and Mr.Oh to JMS death and the rest will fall into place.         

     

    2. At this point I'm almost certain they were never legally married but due to the fact how long it's been and the power of Cheong A,  She could have paid to have this changed by now.. I hope that some where there's some facts stating this to really put her up a creek without a paddle..

    Like I said before G/pa was only aware of one of the kids but not the second son.. The way he likes to pit one against the other I really think G/pa was going to bring JEC into the home and she found out about it from Mr Oh and had to act fast before he found out that there was two kids instead of one.. This would have really put JBC in a bad place two brothers of the same bloodline would work against him later in life..  Due to his guilt of taking off his sons mask he may have felt the guilty and decided to help the eldest son.. Yes he was aware of her sending them away ( Mother & Son) but I don't think he's privy to the whole circumstances behind her action.. At this point just because of JEC being who he is he may not kick up a fuss about her killing the youngest child until he finds out about JBC linage and her and Mr Oh.. Greed is the name of the game for them.. Also JMR could feel that she is owed from this family for being stuck in a loveless marriage and her wasteful youth..

     

    3. I bet he don't know she murder those kids and still out to try and murder them.. But to get some answers to this depends on how much JEC/KPJ tells him.. Maybe G/pa will ask JMR were are the kid now or to find him.. What will her reaction will be..

     

    4. He's going to question her how many children did JSM have you can bet your bottom dollar on this or enlist someone to find out.. I think he will do some investigating on his own before he lets her no of JEC.. G/pa look on his face is how did this child end up here all this time and we was not aware of it..

     

    5. & 6.  JBC will become like mother and father both have killed without being found out and he will think he could do the same due to his thoughts of KPJ betrayal to him he's going to want to kill kPJ with his own hands to rub it in his face and gloat bit his plan is going to backfire..

     

    Like I said JBC made a bad move bringing the cousin back into play with this game.. All this had done was brought his mom and dad past out to get them all..

     

    I think it's time for the old man to clean house and give it all up to whats rightfully belonging to whom..

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  21. On 1/15/2018 at 7:43 AM, sava2sava said:

    As for the name Jang, this could be an indication that JSM might have been married to JEC's mother but JSM hid it from his father, well aware that his father would not approve his marriage. He knew that his father would only approve a marriage that would benefit Cheong A. KPJ still believes that his mother was the mistress. Let us imagine that it was not the case. JSM was forced to marry JMR and didn't dare to tell his father about his previous marriage. So his marriage with JMR would have been illegal... I can also imagine that JSM must have worked so hard in order to get Cheong A out of crisis so that once it is over, JSM can finally reveal his true family to his father. JMR on the other hand must have been pressured to get pregnant and have a son and tried everything to seduce JSM but she failed. Hence she resorted to use Oh. JSM was well aware of her action hence he decided to reveal the truth to his father. But JKH knew about the existence of the child due to the disappearance of the necklace, however he didn't know the whole truth: JSM had two children and was married to JEC's mother in reality. Since he hates children out of wedlock, he knew that JMR would get rid of them (the so called illegitimate child and her mother). However, I doubt that he would have approved the murder of his grandchildren, if he had known that 

    - JSM was married to JEC's mother in the first place

    - JSM saw them as his legitimate children (the necklaces) 

    Per @bebebisous33  Comment above.. The more I contemplate on this I really believe that JMR marriage wasn't legal..  Sure they could have had a church wedding but this marriage was never registered.. This also could be part if the reason JMR look so hard for mother and children to kill them not only is her marriage not legal but her child isn't of the family bloodline everything she claimed to be hers rightfully was given to her wrongly.. She needs to get rid of JEC so her past won't come back and not only bite her in the butt but strip her and so called children of everything they thought they were rightfully entitled to..  

    If this is so G/pa was really made a fool of not only was they not legally married but he raised a child out of wedlock thinking it's his son child.. Wow this would be a good slap to G/pas face which he rightfully deserved.

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  22. 23 hours ago, jongski said:

     @zinaa @kohnlee if an actor could win an award just through facial expression and emotions, Jang Hyuk would sweep all for best actor! That's how good he is. Thanks for posting  that  KPJ fiery angry look on his face.. then his KPJ face with that Ttears.  He deserves all the wonderful  accolades, the praises!  I always watch his drama! I'm already waiting for his next one @Prettysup  Hopefully  another drama line up after his movie The Swordsman comes out? for chingus here.. JH going to play a blind swordsman and we'll see that excellent acting again.

     

    @jongski  I thought it was out already that's another one of his movies I'm waiting to see.. (JH being itochi):):)  

    18 hours ago, philosophie said:

    SO EPIC YESSSS! I want this to happen. What irony that’s JMrs money she gives to BMh is same money that screws her over. I would love love loveeeee to see this happen, especially NMh helping KPJ with his revenge heheheh

     

    We have cheong a bio, foundation, trading, anything else?

    @philosophie Yes that would be epic the best would be to collect from her and JBC both or threaten him she'll go public he'll pay her off without his mom knowing it.. Money is the root cause for them all take that away and they have nothing.. All has been so greedy until they were blind to see what was right in front of them.. Especially when it comes from JMR and G/pa.. Even G/pa second son never notice his nephew or never knew of him my guess is that he knew his brother had other children bringing them in would also work against his son and what he wants to achieve..

    Also there's Cheong A Construction Co which was the very first company that G/pa needed help with and sold his son for it..

     

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