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  1. 2 hours ago, shihuangdi said:

    That Auntie Kang is so annoying, why does she bother with Minglan so much when she is not even related to her. I can understand the evil stepmother or evil concubine or evil wife of ex boyfriend or evil half sister, but Auntie Kang is fully an outsider. She is not even the sister of Sheng Hong, she is the sister of Wang Ruofu. Even Wang Ruofu is not that evil towards Minglan. What is she gaining from being evil to Minglan? At least with the stepmom, it would be the Gu wealth and title. 

     

    When GTY fifth aunt was interfering with the maids at GTY new house, Minglan indirectly told her off that she is nobody. At least she has a little shame and left after realising that she is not even her mother in law nor sister in law. Why is Auntie Kang has no shame and why is Minglan not saying anything??

    @shihuangdi  First off Auntie Kang with a plan to get into ML home.. She moved to the capital just for this reason of course it didn't make matters any better when step mom ask her if she had anyone around her to make as a concubine after the Grand Aunt of GTy concubine couldn;t get any where with him so of course she would comply especially after the lies she's told to those women about how ML took over the Sheng house..

     

    I'm looking forward to how ML handkles these two vicious villians.. Step mom hooking up with the Aunt to see if ML would reject her.. ML sees through ste mom plans and the Aunts.. I tell you if she didn't have her in her book of bad and good deeds she has made herself a reciept now.. ML lives of the idea you do bad to me you can expect my bad in return.. Step mom by all means out to get rid of ML away from GTY because she can't make him out to be Her plan is to keep using those barrowed knifes of hers until the end..    

     

    I see now step mom plans are getting more evil then before, She needs to get rid of ML and GTY by all means, I think it's time ML and GTY take one from the step mom books and use barrowed knives to go after her.. I think 4th and 5th Aunts and Uncles will be good at this job even grand Aunt will be of help all thats needed for the fourth house is getting the son out of exile and for the fifth house a piece of money will do are threaten to break up the houses they would comply.. 

     

    AS GTy says pretentious display of proper etiquette should be displayed for all to see when handling such a person as evil step mom.. It's time they starts ripping that mask off her face for all to see asap..

    2 hours ago, Mena Mohamed said:

    But that concubine thing.Did she know that he doesn`t touch her or not? also she asked him about her in ep 54 if she make any trouble for him.well.Minglan.I lift up my hat for your coldness .she looks like he totally doesn`t care when her maid said GTY was cold these days.and when he was mad going to the court she said maybe there`s some problem there..where is your smart head girl:pensive:

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    About their fight scene.was that fight scene that we were waiting for?.i don`t think they will sort out their feeling that way:blink:.But also it was so funny when ML rode that thing and he change his tone voice and say i won`t ride with her.he is so childish when it come to ML really:joy:.

    @Mena Mohamed  We all see GTY loves his wife to no end, It's not a concubine love and affection he wants.. GTY wants ML love and affection.. He's totally right she don't have a clue to what love is and to recipricate the love thats given to her.. Until he figures out how to get her to treat him equally which she don't there marriage will always have problems regardless to how many concunbines are brought in, All because she's scared of a mans heart changing..    

     

    2 hours ago, Katrina Abdul Talib said:

    Again my POV aft watching up to eps 54.. if GTY's proposal was on equal grounds with QT (did not involve palace) and dowries still not sent, I think marrying QH should be the better option. 

     

    That QH and ML without doubt and known to many are in love, being mamas boy and tht mama now have consented, their live could be less problematic, less stressful hence more peaceful and happier??... prolly even having lots of children (QH had twins right?)

     

    We can feel how sincere and open both were when they had that conversation on the bridge.

    @Katrina Abdul Talib  GTy had every right to make his marriage possible by all means.. Even if the proposal was over the top involving the courts.. That's a man you call a go getter something that QH don't have the guts to do.. He's been sheltered by his mom and Dad titles has always not having to work for anything he has until he had to take the test for the imperial exam and still everything he needs always been provided for him.. I don't think he's the man for her because all of ML past aggression he wouldn't have a clue on how to address them or get her to talk about them.. As far as QH mom goes it would have came to the point she would find something to look down on her status about.. Remember how ruthless QH mom is and a leapord don't change they spots overnight regardless to what she had experience.. If QH falls from grace in the courts and no mom and dad to fall back on.. How would he survive to proviode for a family if he has one.. There's no go out and get things done in him he's just a whinny mamas boy carrying a grudge.  

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  2. 5 minutes ago, UnniSarah said:

    I love GTY’s character because even though he is flawed he always takes responsibility for his actions.  I noticed some fans think GTY is taking advantage of the Emperor but I see it so differently.  TBH , the Emperor is kind , paranoid and very cautious. Maybe some dislike the way  he goes about it but his intentions aren’t to do harm to others but about survival. He spent his entire life fighting to survive. I sometimes wonder if the assassination attempt on GTY when he was young was the only assassination attempt. If it wasn’t, it wasn’t shown but wouldn’t it explain why GTY grew up the way he did by manipulating things to get his way. I see a man who believes he can never get what he wants the honest way so he had to work the hardest to grant his wishes. 

    What do you think chingu’s

    @UnniSarah  Yes I also love his flawed stright to the point character, GTY hold nothing back, Sometimes he has to do things in ways of manipulation in the court but it's not to hurt anyone nor do the King understands all the things that goes on until GTY breaks it down and explain it to him.. One would think by now he'll be running the court without the dowager posted up behind him.. 

     

    The assasination attempt on his life was just as it was to kill him.. And even now Evil step mom and his mom family wishes him to be dead.. They'll do everything within there power to try and take everything from ML..  Luckily she'll give birth to more then one heir.. I'm looking forward to them all finding out she's pregnant and what lengths step mom would go through to have her miscarry maybe evem wishes to finish her off..   

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  3. 14 hours ago, O said:

    @sava2sava, when SH found out about NJ, she asked the lawyer if a DNA test was done.  The lawyer affirmed it.  She said she would do her own.  But what gave her away was her statement "the baby is dead!".  I think she asked scumbag to kill the baby.  But he kidnapped NJ and gave him to NJ's Mom to raise.

     

    I don't think Siu will do anything if he finds out.  When he found out that his Mom had asked Jina's roommate to switch the designs, he was all ready to sack the room mate.  But he told Jina he would handle things quietly because his Mom is involved.  I am still not fully convinced he has left the darkness and is walking in the light! 

    @O  Yes this was a dead give away for SH.. This is how I had figured out she was involved with the baby coming up missing.. SH had always thought with the legit child being gone that she and SW would be accepted in that family.. I'm also not buying his good guy act.. It's no way Sw will scumb to nothing niot even his arrogance after learning what his mom did baxck then will lead him gto side with her if it would get him to have JA.. I still think JA will be the first to find out about SH and what she did to NJ.. 

     

     

    10 hours ago, jayakris said:

    So, what is the significance of SH's orphanage background and the grandmother that she claimed to have?  The drama is making a big deal of this, but I can't conjure up a proper back story that would fit.

    @jayakris  My guess is SH has been lying about her so called background all along.. SH grew up in that orphanage..

     

     

    5 hours ago, msmy said:

    Anyway, mistress Mom has made her move.  She has decided to "accept" JinAh if SW wins the 3rd round, and insists that he move back home because it doesn't look good for him to be out and that wasn't how she raised him.  So obvious was her non-apology to JA for the way she treated her, but glossed over it as "Well, that's what a parent would do to protect their child."  Her character flaws run really deep.  She has contacted crook/brother Seon Gyu to find where JA lives and "get rid of her."  Wow.

    @msmy  I'm think akll of them grew up in that orphanage including kidmapper # 2 I still think she's hiding more then what she's been telling.. I think she always knew who child was kidnap from the hospital and was holding out for more money but the plan went wrong.. Scumbag got the money and kept it pushing..  The big twist to this will be she never had a kid back then..

     

    @viyra  This is why I've been questioning is SW really her child

     

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  4. 39 minutes ago, cherubstomato said:

    Viki is broke on iPhone users ugh...

     

    EPISODE 51:

    Omg QH was being so petty but when GTY was rubbing salt on his wounds and telling him how it is whether he keeps being in denial or not, he had to remind him and it hurt me to see QH cry. Because I can feel how much regret and resentment he must have for losing the love of his life. :bawling:  If I think about it, it’s like the saying, we were destined to meet but not to be together. :bawling: I am a little at agitated with GTY, because I feel he should be a little sympathetic towards QH. But like I said he is an opportunist and a go getter. I understand QH can not trust GTY again. Although he prayed ML to have a good husband, the last person he wanted to take her away was someone who was close/related to him.... But in due time hope he gets a wake up call and let go his pain and just learn to accept that ML was the love that got away. Now that GTY has taken ML from QH and Dr He, all the more he should cherish and treasure ML. 

     

    I feel so sad for GTY kids. So sad to be birth with evil mother. 

    That sixth Liang has no idea. He really pushed the buttons. Lol SH has been kept in the dark far too long, good for him to realize that CL is not just a liar who played him but also a murderer and his daughter Molan as well. 

    @cherubstomato  Yes QH is very petty, First off he should have correct his mom when she first went to the Sheng house offering gifts as brothers and sisters.. She had a whole different agenda when she lied to him in the first place but she lied to him.. Him offering ML the necklace sealed it for her that they could never be.Mom offereing the neckl;ace said it all that she didn't want any of the Sheng daughters tied to her household.. He should really be venting his anger towards his mom.. She's the one that F him over.. If he was so bent on having ML he should have made it clear right then in front of everyone about his feelings towards her and he wouldn't have her as his concubine as mom wanted but his main wife.. If he would have spoke up in the beginning he would have seen the fruits of his labor.. Not be mad at GTy for something he didn't and could not bring himself to do.. Even after marrying twice he still choose to not let his pettiness go and move on.. 

     

    You may call GTy and opppourtunist but I see him as a go getter.. GTy has seen the ways of the world at a very young age and knows nothing comes to a sleeper but a dream.. If you want something you have to by all means go after it and thats what he did.. GTY seen the rare jewel that ML was something that QH never knew was there and still to this episode not know.. If ML had married him she would have for ever been living in her shell with a lot of bottle up emotions pint up inside her that would have been enough to kill her.. Not counting all that QH mom would have been doing to her just because of the fact she's a concubines daughter..   

     

    I don't buy SH crap about not knowing CL was involved in this.. He's a man of the court and not only that he knew she was the only one with motive to do something like this.. SH played dumb just for the simple fact he didn';t want to tarnish the SHeng family good name or lose his face..Ml told him as a child how they were starving and no heat in the home.. He really didn't do a thing about it.. SH never cared for ML or her mom.. What tees me off even more is that he didn't have to sleep with her if he wasn't going to be responsible for the children he fathered with her.. @ForgottenSoulx  Who was the person we were conversing with on SH and how much of a dirt bag father he is towards ML.. I really wanted to reach out and touch him in the last episode for trying to slap ML in regards to the witch,.. My thoughts went back to Molan sleeping around in a temple but he didn;t slap her nor raised his hands to hit her..  I was hoping ML check Molan husband about her minduing her own business. But he'll learn soon enough what kibd of woman he married she's no different then her mom there's no love there..

     

    Molan so jealous of Ming Lan all she wishing and praying for his for ML downfall.. She's praying for ML husband to fall out of grace with the court.. But she still has no idea no matter how hard she falls she still has a bed of money to fall on and bounce back up.. It's not like they ate depending in the courts to provide for them and ML has a business mind set I'm sure she could make them even more richer of she puts her mind to it.. 

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  5. 12 minutes ago, mooose said:

     

    Found excerpt of dialogue. Credit to jolie_vie at fastdrama.

     

    Molan wanted to retrieve her mother's remains and have them interred at Yuqing temple with a big ceremony.  ML was not having it.

     

    ML IMMEDIATELY THREW HER CHOPSTICKS that hit the table and dropped to the floor… 
    ML: she wanted to kneel, i didn’t ask her to kneel
    SH: what are you doing? we are eating as a family, you threw things, so unreasonable, it's not for you to make decision
    ML: since ancient times, no murderer is worthy to stand in front of the dead
    SH: what? murderer
    ML: you still don’t know? LinQinShuang is the one who killed my mother
    SH: what nonsense are you saying?
    MoLan: you’re talking nonsense
    ML: i didn’t talk nonsense, 4th sister, unless i’m dead, otherwise you should forever not think of placing LinQinShuang’s tablet in YuQing Temple
    SH: you’re talking nonsense. QinShuang is such a gentle person, how could she have killed your mother? The whole family knows that your mother died of childbirth. how can this be possible.
    MoLan: you malign my mother, 
    ML: witness and statement are available, if you don’t believe, we can go to court, 
    SH: (hits the table) you wantto destroy the entire family’s reputation, all servants leave (shouting at XT & DJ) both of you, too!

     

    Thanks @mooose  AWESOME.. Looking forward to this episode.. 

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  6. 7 hours ago, Lunkera said:

    @leeza77 I both agree and disagree. ML has more or less built a psychological shell around her heart. Unless it's something drastic she won't break out of it cause of safety reasons. Such things happens in modern day also. ML has gotten comfortable in her shell, so i don't think anything will change otherwise.

    @Lunkera ML is like this because of her father and Granny, I guess Granny husband never dited and showered her with love nor have she really seen what a loving couple is.. All ML has seen growing up in the differences the men makes in first wife second wife and so on.. Even her sisters marriages were all shambles and no talk of love.. So we can't really blame ML for who she is.. If GTRY wants to get some lead way in her feelings for him he needs to go talk to Granny she's the only one that can help change ML point of view on this subject..

     

    Question: Within the next 4 episodes they should learn she's pregnant.. Do the Aunt concubiune still lives there or dio she leaves.?

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  7. 10 hours ago, callshu said:

    Most of you are thinking GTY loves her a lot. Why Milan cannot understand? Which ever period it maybe, whether it is 21st Century or that period, as a wife, how can you love 100% to a husband who already had 2 children and loves them a lot. There is a saying, if a man loves a children that means, he still loves the mother of those children. 

    After Minlan married him, she has a very hard time mentally. A lot of burden on her shoulder while she is still very young. Concubines, daughter and son from another woman, snobbish relatives, unwanted servants etc. in reality love alone cannot survive. 

    Well said @callshu  Let's not forget everyboidy is scheming to get they hands in the cookie jar.. 

    I tell you I'm getting real tired of this concubine plot.. ML looking at GTY needs to have and heir present like now, This will cut down on a lot of everyone coming out of the boondocks and woodworks to drop off a concubines for hinm to impregnate..   

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  8. 28 minutes ago, mooose said:

     

    Yeah that grave looked suspicious. There was a skeleton but the soil looked fresh....

    @mooose  I think the child is really dead, This is why Manning was so off her rockers.. Killing GTY was pleasure for her because she feel so cheated that she didn't even touch a quarter of his wealth..  Her plan to use the child backfired not only do I think the child is dead so is her brother..  Both could have caught some kind of plague back then wondering around from town to town no telling what they could have pick up.. Also just seeing how desperate she is I wouldn't put it past her if she even sold the child..  She may have stashed him away in a temple..

     

    I do have a question.? What was the argument about between ML and her sorry father.. also was Molan there asking for money her and nookie junkie husband..?  

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  9. On 1/25/2019 at 7:34 AM, jayakris said:

    Thanks, @lu09, @Ameera Ali , @angelwingssf and @dramaninja..

     

    The main item in Ep 60, other than what all of you could see and figure out easily was at the end when the Lawyer got the update from his secretary that he can't find anything much on SH at the hometown anymore. When he asks about the parents, the guy says she was an orphan who had come from an orphanage in Hongcheon(?).  He asked the secretary to look into Choi Su Hui or Choi Geum Sun being at any of the orphanages.  Then the lawyer wonders to himself that he was sure that SH had a mother back then, and finds this to be strange.  Then of course, at the end, we see BCS telling SH - "you asked me to steal Nam Jin, you know".  So that part is settled, just as we figured.  Earlier, we saw SU asking his mom in no uncertain terms to just butt out.  It is fun to see SU going after his mom so hard.  Other than that, not a whole lot in the episode except lot of nice scenes.  Like NJ saying in the car how pretty SJ is inside and out, thinking she is sleeping, but she opens her eyes and saying she heard it all.  The guy then told her the big line - "I love you".  Nice episode again.  The drama keeps on chugging along at a relaxed pace, without upsetting us with too much of negativity.

    @jayakris  Welcome back you have my condolences..  BTW Thanks for the update..  I been watching the story of Ming Lan and haven't any of my dramas in a whole week for spending time in that thread..

     

    On 1/25/2019 at 9:31 AM, whome said:

    @jayakris My deep condolences for your loss. 

     

    I would love it if NJ & SU team up to take down SH. She's like about to go off the deep end with her obsession to have her son take over. If SU ever finds out that SH was behind the kidnapping, I wonder what will happen between the mother/son relationship. To be quite honest, is SU a legit son? Did SH have another relationship since grandfather didn't let his son marry her?

    On 1/25/2019 at 10:02 AM, jayakris said:

    Thanks @whome for the words...

     

    As for SU being the legit son, I am still of the opinion that he is a legit half-brother of NJ.  I just don't feel that SH would go to the columbarium and tell the dead man that she loved him, if she had deceived him with a child from another relation.  That is still my main reason to believe that SU is a real grandson of the grandpa.  I've never seen people lying to dead people, in dramas.  But then again, it is Kdrama, so who knows!

     

     

    @whome & @jayakris  Wewll chalk another one up to me.. I knew SH was behind the kidnapping,, She alwatys saw herself planted in that house.. It wouldn;t suprise me if SU was kidnap also..   This could be the big twist in this story, One would have thought SH would have thrown a fit when it was revealed NJ was the real G.child. But she never questioned it or demamded for anmother DNA to be done I still think G/pa left his DNA just for this purpose..  I'm still believing that SU isn't related to this family and this would explain to him why G/pa never really took a liking to him or his mom.. 

     

    SH the want to be head Mdm needs to rot in someone prison. I'm hoping SU is also a child she kidnap. I remember she said that she hide out with SW fearing G./pa was going to take him away from her.. This is all a lie just like she lied she didn't know is supposed to be dad had another child..  

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  10. 1 hour ago, Lunkera said:

    It's episode 48(director's cut) that he and GTY talk before he dies. He says also to his wife and daughter on his deathbed to never trust big madam and the rest of the family. Only to trust GTY and Minglan and not get involved in conflict more or less.

    @Lunkera  I liked when told her no matter under any circumstances not to get involved with Big Mdm and Lil Mdm and never ever adopt it was to only to control her.. Specially liked when he gave explanation to mom with the child there most parents on there dying bed reveal things that most try and hide.. Glad he had his daughter to listen if not later in life she and mom could be easly fooled just like him.. 

     

    2 hours ago, ForgottenSoulx said:

    I also agree somewhat in regards to QH if he was just doing his job there would be no issues but its painfully obvious for everyone to see hes emotional and clearly going against GTY but i just dont get what he think's doing this will do . He wants ML to be happy but doing this against GTY will harm ML. He is indirectly a pawn for ED against QH and sure we dont know everything but hes really not that stupid to not know that hes clearly going against GTY and hes fine with that.

    @ForgottenSoulx  Clearly QH thinks that GTY is the main reason that he and ML never got back together..  As of now he still hasn't even consider his own actions.. Even meeting her privately shows just what he thinks and nor care about what others will think towards her for them being seen privately.. Ok we get he could careless about wht his wife thinks when it comes to ML but geeze he should also think of her reputation which he never has..

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  11. 3 hours ago, zenya22 said:

    But does eldest bro know that he was lied to and the truth told that his mother was not killed by GTY's mom? This what I am getting at and I did say that he knows all the atrocities done by stepmom and her ambition to have her son be the heir but does the older brother know the truth about the lie told to him, that made him resentful to his young bro GTY? that GTY's mom killed his mom does he know the truth, that is a lie? GTY also wanted that truth be known so there will be no lies between them. That was what GTY begged his father kneeling and asking for his father to tell the truth about his mother. So, was the truth told to both brothers? 

    @zenya22  From my understanding he dis figure it out.. He knew it was Evil step mom doing.. I'm suprised that he has been faking his sickness all this time to only find out he's really sick and dying.. I think he came clean because he ay have realized that step mom not only poisioned his mind but his body to.. So to get baxk at the lady that caused so much harn to he ad second brother is to give second brother not only whats rightfully his but that if which the witch kept having ill intent for whats not theres or her son in the first place..

     

    I couldn't believe my ears when first brotrher said that 115 thousand dollars is to be returned to GTY from his mothers dowry..:o The fourth Uncle said don't misunderstand we was just trying to help you manage your money.. (Unbelieveable) GTY didn't misunderstand he understood all to well there was a suprising look not only on his face but ML to.. ML had the look like these crooks.. They come and try to run my life as well as my husbands stilliving off his oms oney that they don't want to return and demanding that he save they wretched no good for nothing kids.. 

     

    I say at this point GTY should split up the houses give them what they should have and let them fend for themselves that includes step mom.. She wants her son to inherit a title let him get out and make one for himself..    The main house fourth and fifth house has been living high off the hog far to long including they wives..Make them become self sufficient.. 

     

    Step mom isn't going to stop not until they all are dead.. My guess is after ML child was born she knew inheriting the noble title for her son and his kids was out the question so yes I could see her and son trying to burn it all if she couldn't get it all.. I see why her son died it was her Karma for using others for her own personal gain.. 

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  12. 12 hours ago, Golden Flower said:

    It is also not clear whether ML told everyone that Molan causing foils for her husband’s concubine, Chunniang, like CL did to her mom. However, Liang Han starts to have doubts about Molan's words. He was asking whether their first meeting at the temple when she slipped was coincidental. I guess she has been telling him it was their fate. He threatened her to tell him the truth or he would go ask ML.

    @Golden Flower  It would have been a nice twist to the story if he had asked ML about they so called fate. My guess is fro the videos clips he's finding out how much of a witch she is. I was checking out the look on Big Mdms face, She had the look of this girl is going right back at her father and just how much do she remembers at that time.. She's been holding a grudge against him for a long time..

     

    11 hours ago, matrim said:

    From What I recall, Gu Tingwei the third brother was a shadowy character in the novel, as the author didn't elaborate on him. I can remember 2 scenes in which he was in. The first one is when the GTY's mansion was on fire and ml giving birth to her child, GTW did nothing and played with his children. The other is after the second rebellion, GTW's corpse was discovered outside GTY's mansion, obviously he was the leader behind the attack. I think it implies that GTW wasn't a villain from the start, maybe he was manipulated by his mother, who changed him from a indifferent bystander to a villain.

    @matrim  I could tell by his vocal sounds in him and mom conversation that she raised hi telling him that GTY was hindrring his way and she would need his help in order for them to survive.. Being that ML was pregnant and if she gives birth to a son, This would out him and any children he and wife has.. So yes I can see hi turning Evil.. But I read in the thread ML and GTY had 3 sons..  This tells me step mom probably died from so much anger she can't rest in peace..

     

    11 hours ago, Golden Flower said:

    TV epi 51-52 comment on Maniang...

     

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    When I was watching today's episode earlier this morning, I cannot seem to figure out why MN would stab GTY if she wants to be accepted as his concubine even if she isn't lying about the son's death. She should seduce him as she used to instead of falling out with him. GTY even mentioned to MN that she was no longer curry-favoring him like she used to before she stabbed him. episode 52 ended in GTY and ML interrogating MN in storage room not believing what she said about the son's death was the truth. I thought of two possibilities, (1) MN already went crazy and the son actually died (2) step-mom offered money to MN so that she would stab and kill GTY. 

    Then, I saw the previews of her choking Rong'er and her burning paper at son's grave. From the preview, I believe it is no 2 possibility and I do not think MN has gone crazy as she is capable of saying right things to GTY in the beginning, she was able to say right thing to beg for her food from food stall and seems to be following instructions of step-mom in spreading bad news of GTY “taking daughter and kicking her out and trying to take the son from her now.”

    I think her bouts of tantrum, choking the daughter and acting like crazy person after she failed in stabbing GTY, is just she burning in her own hell of greed, jealousy towards ML and even her own daughter, and regrets of her failure to protect the son to be used as a pawn to live in luxury like she always wanted.  

    I do not know why she became ragged as she was in good shape with good clothes when GTY servants let her go and told her to go away. ^_^

     

    @GoldenFlower  It don't take a genius to figure her out..  She needs GTY dead so her son could inherit it all being that he was GTY rightful heir.. If she really wanted to claim her spot she should have tried to stay humble and stop ML from getting pregant.. But MN knows ML isn't no fool and if she brought the son back she will eventually have to go..

     

    Maybe the son did die, As stated in the book he died and I wouldn't out it past step mom to promise her the stars and the oom if she get rid of GTY But not knowing step om would have turned her in and had those court official on her like wite on rice, In return for doing step mom bidding she would have had Ronger sold off into slavery right along with her brother.. No Ronger would have became someone concubine and brother into slavery..

     

    I said MN behaving this way because she knows she has no standing with GTY or her daughter to get back in and her green with envy for ML stems fron her own wrig doing.. All her ill gotten money may have went so quick because she and brother couldn't find another ark to go after..I think when she was out in the streets shouting he kick her and the son out.. GTY old nanny should have pop out on her but and told why he kick her out and she ran off with the son to come back and use later.. I knew MN was shisty when she showed up at GTY dad house uannounced. She did this purposely to test the waters with the Dad.. If she if they would have accepted Ronger then she would have came back with the son to get in the door to steal what she wanted.. But all her plans backfired and that's what makes her angry with herself because she cheated herself..

     

    11 hours ago, hello210 said:

    Ooh...if it’s the second time an Aunt is trying to give them a concubine and GTY is opposing the aunt, then this should around the time they find out they’re pregnant.  

    @hello210  If so I'm so happy for this news,  I got full watching how ML was eating in this drama without being pregnan.. My gawd how big the spread is going to be now.. GTY may give the whole capital a feast because of this good news..

     

    10 hours ago, mooose said:

     

    Regarding QH's second wife, it depends on the expectations of the marriage. Remember the conversation with GTY and ML after the home visit where she said that all she wanted was 'fairness.'

     

    This is an arranged marriage so is QH being unfair to her? I don't think so. He is working hard at his job to catch up with his peers (he was a parachute candidate after all). He is not sleeping with any maids. He is cold but treats her respectfully. It takes time to build a good marriage especially when you are strangers. She wants to have his heart when she doesn't even understand him yet. Her expectation of the marriage is a tad unrealistic. 

    @mooose  In regards to QH wife, She spoke of how loving her parents were thus she thought her marriage would be the same.. She has always seen the love and affection her patents showed to one another and expected QH to treat her the way she has always been shown.. Apparently she has never seen married couples fight.. She's been living in this fantasy marriage world onlkt to have her dream if marriage shatter because of her husbands past love for another women..    

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  13. 13 hours ago, linhlinh111 said:

    I'm really confused about the stepmom's son right now. I read the book before watching drama and in the book he is a villain so since the beginning I always assume he's a bad guy and kinda hate him. Now I'm not sure since he hasn't shown any sign of evil (yet) and the drama seems to derail from the book quite a lot. Did they decide to change his character or what? If they did then I really don't know what to feel. I can say I'm quite prejudiced against him.

    @linhlinh111  I can believe he turned evil.. His mom greed could have been the key factor here.. She has probably lead those Uncles and Aunt In-laws to believe that it would be and embarrasment to the Gu Clan to  list GTY mom into the family geneology due to the fact of how GTY dad married his Mom in order to save the execution of there clan.. Yet the house of Gu is still living off the Bai clan.. Now being that GTY gave them no other choice but to register his mom in order to save the three younger Gu's whom seems to be F-ups.. (I think they should be made to serve in the military so they can stop taking life for granted.) Also isn't the Gu clan a house of warriors.. Why these younger ones not even listed in some kind of military services.. 

     

    Back to evil step mom, She never wanted her listed that way when older brother died she has a leg to stand and fight with that her son inherits the noble title due to the fact that she's the last wife of his dad and his mom (GTY Mom) was never listed in the clan.. But it seems right before brother passes away, It seems that brother had a wake up call after he swore over his dead body. Maybe those ancestors showed him what was in store for the rest of the clan if he didn't clean it up.. 

     

    Evil step mom must have spent a lot of money to track down MN.. Thinking that she's the one that can still move GTY the way she wants and MN is so angry she got found out.. She's mad with herself because she played herself.. MN thinking if she kills GTY then she can come back and claim her sin inheritence being that he is of the GU and Bai clan.. 

     

    I see evil step mom teaming up with the ED to bring him down.. I think the gifts that was given to him was from the Old Emperor before he passed away.. Even if it's taken away it's nothing to him because GTY already has riches from his mom side of the family.Also brother gave him what was rightfully his.. It seems those Uncles and Step Mom got all teed off because thats what they been banking on all this time..

     

    But to question the younger brother character, I think he maybe no different from his mom having two faces..

     

    13 hours ago, lilkat75 said:

    A lot of people to be up with all the previews :joy:

    I'm going to be talking about episode 46 and 47ish...I think it's fair enough that QH is being diligent with his work but like many others have said, he seems to be a pawn of the ED. Did anyone else notice when GTY coughed purposely when one of the ministers was about to mention QH was married to the previous princess and her father who was the supposed next emperor? I thought it was nice of GTY as he holds the face of QH I think? Correct me if I'm wrong about this, that was the vibe I was getting at... It was really nice when in a much earlier episode, QH prayed for the happiness for the ML and a sense he let go... Thus, I will be pretty disappointed if QH held grudges which affect his line of work as I think his characterisation will go backwards because again he is not thinking how it will affect ML who he obviously still cares about. However, I don't blame him for keeping the dolls as a keepsake. It's not like he was opening them and admiring them. Although he does not love his current wife, he is respectful enough to her and many marriages were arranged/not for love so I don't understand his wife's logic of investigating his past love when she will be the one hurt and QH is not even bringing up ML. :wacko: 

    @lilkat75  Not only is he her pawn but he's GTY pawn for a moment.. I think GTY spread the news just to get the younger three arrested in order to get what he wants.. GTY is cunning and maniulative like his wife.. She is him and he's her.. Match Made In Heaven.. 

     

    12 hours ago, ForgottenSoulx said:

    Omg so much happening i liked the emotion from Wang Ruofu face when ML is have that speech vs SH, it seems like shes really feeling sorry for ML. I also really detest SH and anyone who thinks hes a good father. 

     

    Also the acting from ZLY in that scene and through out this drama really impressed me.

     

    I just want ML to flip out more vs SH shes bottled it up for to long.

    @ForgottenSoulx  It seems that you and I are the only ones to see SH for who he is.. I'm wondering did SH run home crying about money because her MIL may have tiold her, She didn't want her anyway and the Gu clan is loaded down to go get oney from her sister. In order for that to work Molan had to appeal to her dad soft side for her whom in return talk crazy to ML for not helping her.. I say no way ML don't give the one copper penny.. It's not hers to give anyway..  If this isn;t the case it has soething to do with ML husband needing help..I still say she shouldn't give in and keep fighting the old coot who never once look at you or cared about you as a child. 

     

    Who's baby Grand Ma is holding,

    Come to think of it Molan really don't have dilly squat to set up a dowry for her three brats..  

     

     

     

       

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  14. 18 minutes ago, gerrytan8063 said:

    @valsava

     

    " We need.....our fellow historian to fill us in on this..

     

    With regards to the green wedding dress, I believe that the question had been answer

     

    "I remember when I watch Yi San several years back the colors of there place was also a part of the colors of the palace in China being that Korea was supposed to be the mother state to China or something of that nature.. "

     

    The colours for Korean palaces & Buddhist temples known as Dancheong (단청,丹青)  built during the Goryeo Dynasty (918-1392) & later Joseon Dynasty (1392-1910) were influences from the Northern Song Dynasty (960-1127) architect Li Jie (李誡 1065-1110) which were known as "Painting & Decoration of the Song Style" (宋式彩畫) in which the drama era is based

     

    For your information, I am not following this drama therefore have no knowledge on the on-goings

    Thanks @gerrytan8063   

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  15. 7 hours ago, m0us3y said:

    I don't think the issue is ever if she cares for him. 

    She has always been thinking for his best interest, from Rong'er, to advancing his career, bringing Shitou with him during the rebellion. 

    She even cooked him porridge when he was sick during their early days. 

    Now as his wife, naturally she cares for him a lot more. 

    In fact, I even believe she loves him. 

    But that doesnt always equal to opening up to him on everything, the way he hopes she will. 

    She still doesn't trust that he will love her forever. After all, like another chingu said, that would be rare those days, and they truly are exceptions rather than norm. 

    And ML wouldn't want to put her hopes up for an exception I feel. 

    @m0us3y  ML loves her husband, But from what she has seen and witness she can't fully trust men because they seem to change over time.. All this stems from her dad down to GTY and his relationship with MN.. She knew all to well how GTY spoke up for MN whom was a sheep in lambs clothing.. At some point ML knew MN would coe back with his son demanding a spot in that ouse again using the son to have her way.. ML isn't fully giving herself to GTY because if these reasons.. This is what she means not to expect to much and you won't be disapointed nor will you feel you've been betrayed..

     

    7 hours ago, leeza77 said:

    As i said b4 time will heal.. Patience and perseverance. Slowly coaxing, ml will come around. Or maybe a big slapped on her face (the arrival of manniang) will give ml shock abd revelation of her love towards gty. 

    @leeza77  ML has a shield around her and with MN showing up that barrier just thicken.. Maybe after she has kids and she could rest that MN is really gone she start to losen up a bit for him to break it down.. Once she sees how he is with they're child would make all the difference.. ML knows all to well about growing up and seeing how the status difference stigma effects a childs life and same goes for how the parents treat one another in front of the child..  As long as he continue to shower her with his affection and love for her she'll realize how much she loves her husband and he's by far not perfect..

     

    Okay I just have to get this off my chest.. First it was the evil MIL trying to bring others into the marriage just a day after the wedding.. Now it's the Dowager.. Is she trying to get back at GTY for QH.. I have never known in all my years of watching from Kdrama to Cdrama were the Empress gice out they servants to go be concubines.. Now she also trying to place spies in the house, Also QH it took on doing her petty biding without knowing it or did he.. Is this his way of getting back at GTy and ML.. As he still not thought about his own actions towards ML..       

    7 hours ago, m0us3y said:

    I don't think the issue is ever if she cares for him. 

    She has always been thinking for his best interest, from Rong'er, to advancing his career, bringing Shitou with him during the rebellion. 

    She even cooked him porridge when he was sick during their early days. 

    Now as his wife, naturally she cares for him a lot more. 

    In fact, I even believe she loves him. 

    But that doesnt always equal to opening up to him on everything, the way he hopes she will. 

    She still doesn't trust that he will love her forever. After all, like another chingu said, that would be rare those days, and they truly are exceptions rather than norm. 

    And ML wouldn't want to put her hopes up for an exception I feel. 

    @m0us3y  ML loves her husband, But from what she has seen and witness she can't fully trust men because they seem to change over time.. All this stems from her dad down to GTY and his relationship with MN.. She knew all to well how GTY spoke up for MN whom was a sheep in lambs clothing.. At some point ML knew MN would coe back with his son demanding a spot in that ouse again using the son to have her way.. ML isn't fully giving herself to GTY because if these reasons.. This is what she means not to expect to much and you won't be disapointed nor will you feel you've been betrayed..

     

    7 hours ago, leeza77 said:

    As i said b4 time will heal.. Patience and perseverance. Slowly coaxing, ml will come around. Or maybe a big slapped on her face (the arrival of manniang) will give ml shock abd revelation of her love towards gty. 

    @leeza77  ML has a shield around her and with MN showing up that barrier just thicken.. Maybe after she has kids and she could rest that MN is really gone she start to losen up a bit for him to break it down.. Once she sees how he is with they're child would make all the difference.. ML knows all to well about growing up and seeing how the status difference stigma effects a childs life and same goes for how the parents treat one another in front of the child..  As long as he continue to shower her with his affection and love for her she'll realize how much she loves her husband and he's by far not perfect..

     

    Okay I just have to get this off my chest.. First it was the evil MIL trying to bring others into the marriage just a day after the wedding.. Now it's the Dowager.. Is she trying to get back at GTY for QH.. I have never known in all my years of watching from Kdrama to Cdrama were the Empress gice out they servants to go be concubines.. Now she also trying to place spies in the house, Also QH it took on doing her petty biding without knowing it or did he.. Is this his way of getting back at GTy and ML.. As he still not thought about his own actions towards ML..       

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  16. 3 hours ago, leeza77 said:

    Do you mean the brother asked him to marry his wife after his death in order fot gty to inherit the title.. Thus, ml has to be divorced/separated? But, the title sh. be gty's after his death automatically 

    @leeza77  From what I read he ask him to divorce ML to protect his wife and child..

     

    @matrim  With SH character you need to read between the lines.. Outside the hime and to the public he's a good person inside the home he's the worst person ever.. If you think about it he's no different then GTY evil step mom both always trying tio save there faces and that they do no wrong..

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  17. 4 hours ago, doubleicon said:

    This is why I can't like Qh he is always directly or indirectly causing harm to Minglan. Instead of throwing away the dolls like he should, he kept them. Now his wife has found them and she tried to make trouble for Minglan. Jeez dude. I really wish his role was like that in the books. I have grown very tired of QH.

    @doubleicon  I think it should be GTY to get QH and wife together and have him to check her regardless to if he kept the dolls are not.. It's not her place to go tattle tale to her Aunt in-laws before checking out with the circumstances was.. Instead of trying to stir up trouble in someone else home.. My guess is she knows she can't compete with the beauty of ML and being that ML and GTY is the talk of the town and yet for these two stay home and mind there own business it's people like her that's making it there business to mind ML and GTY business.. The Ex jealous wife hasn't thought about if her action was to cause ML and GTY to part from one another what will her husband do since she can't recieve all of his heart.. Did she really not know before hand that he had a love interest.. It's not ML fault if he hasn't let go nor is she the one thats keeping and old flame burning being that she's married to someone else.. 

     

    3 hours ago, m0us3y said:

    It seems like she just calls him whatever she likes! I still don't really know what she should call him actually.

    What should she be calling him anyway? 

    @m0us3y  Proud Ruffin Comes To mind..  :w00t:

     

    Do anyone I have clue to when she'll be preggo..?  

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  18. 3 hours ago, leeza77 said:

    He's going to die. So to ensure the wife and daughter protected, he ally himself with gty. The paper is the will from their father. Dunno the content but the brother actually asked gty to divorce ml

    @leeza77 My guess he wants his wife a child protected and wife still to carry the title of his,, He got a lot of nerve. Why should he become Father to his niece.. I'm sure GTY and ML would see to it that she marries well.. Some widows were sent back to there family homes back then so she could re-marry out and yet she's trying to cling on to her title.. I don't know who is the worst her or evil Mdm.. She was so worried about GTY taking her husbands title when it was his to begin with.. Now to marry the same brother she help plot against not thinking ahead when her husband past what kind of safety net she or her husband has in plan for them.. GTY should them both to kick cans.. How dare they suggest to divorce his wife unbelievable.. It's sounds to me that his wife is and opportunist use the title to force him to divorce and she gets to keep her position.. Why even stay with the GU's when she don't have a son any way.. This is the time to run to the border away from all this crazy mess but yet she wants to stay because of a title get real will ya.. I wouldn't be suprised if step mom had those servants feeding her something that may have caused her not to get pregnant ever again.. 

    2 minutes ago, ForgottenSoulx said:

    How did QH's wife even find this out? 

    @ForgottenSoulx  She found those dolls that QH had for him and ML.. Both initials or nanes were on the very bottom of the porcelin dolls which he had pck away very nicely..

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  19. 8 minutes ago, ForgottenSoulx said:

    You make a good point about Molan's family they are supposed to be 1/2 richest but dont care to flaunt their wealth.. all Molan's husband cares about is sex not showing off. 

    @ForgottenSoulx  GTY is a lot richer himself without the wealth of the Gu's I suppose GTY alone is richer the Liang family.. Molan was so worried about marrying into and establish household and becoming the first wife she for got to do her homework.. She just jump on the first man from and establish house that look her way.. 

     

    Well guy's off to work chat with you later in the afternoon

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  20. 1 hour ago, leeza77 said:

    @leeza77  Did QH new wife go to the Sheng house asking the SIL about QH past trelationship with this house.. Why even ask at this point there's no single miss in the home and she's married to him.. Did she not hear about QH and ML back then everyone else in the capital seems to have known about it..

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  21. 8 hours ago, matrim said:

    Oh I see. I guess it's when ML was giving birth to her son and the mansion was set on fire by GTY's stepmother that QH said that. Because he knew GTY wasn't with ML and someone should come to her rescue. 

    @matrim  So I'm not the only one guessing that it was step mom that set fire to the hime fearing MK giving birth to a son which will cut her child out of having the nobke title all together.. She's the only one with motive to do something like this.. I just have to ask is justice brought to her for all her actions against GTY and ML..  

     

    If the director has changed the novel this much I'm wondering what will they do with her character..

    8 hours ago, leeza77 said:
    Found this on weibi. Hillarious.
    Suddenly found a humiliating thing... Newly married for a few days, this quilt, always take it out to dry[eat melon][eat melon][eat melon][eat melon]
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    @leeza77  Thats the witches putting a hex on it.. 

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  22. 9 hours ago, mooose said:

    What do you guys think about Grandma's advice? I thought ML was beginning to melt to GTY and then her father and Grandma hardened her again on that trip home. 

    @mooose  She had good advice and experience from the Sheng family, ML is a tough nut to crack.. I hope that GTY will be able to break down this barrier.. But at this point ML trust issues with men she don't have any.. I have to admit she do have a point one can trust no one but themselves and thats a motto I live by to this day..

     

    9 hours ago, ForgottenSoulx said:

    For some reason even though Molan's husband is a guy who just sleep's with anyone i still somewhat like him lmfao.

    9 hours ago, ForgottenSoulx said:

    I thought what the grandma and SH both said did make some sense , first time i agreed with SH somewhat i do think that they were a bit to grand and showy and was not really needed. The grandma also knows from experience and knowledge and did not know GTY's true character so i think what she said was wise. 

     

    @ForgottenSoulx  I like him also, I see he was kind of suprised how Molan wasn't close to ML and RL.. I don;t think he really knows Molan nature or character even at this point.. You could tell he wanted to join in with the men but by Molan not having all the attention and no one was admiring her she was totally upset..

    I like how GTY brought ML back in a grand manner, He did that to let the Sheng household know that his wife isn't someone to be look down upon anymore from the people in this house or anyone else in the capital.. I thought it was done to show SH a thing or two.. The child that he looked down on and negelected, tried to sale her off at every oppourtunity that came up belongs to me now and she shall be treated with such dignity and respect even from you.

     

    Molan was so upset at ML grand return she basically called ML a nobody and her husband was a nothing for choosing to marry her.. Yet ML carriage was granted to them by the Emperor. She then replyed to her husband that she should have came back in a three tier carriage.. Now he's supposed to be a Count they should already have these carriages in there home.. He said I'll get you one next time as if they was in a rental then.. She really got bent out of shape hearing Big Mdm speak of her husband new child that she didn't birth..

     

    Just got to love RL.. Direct and to the point..Loved it when RL told her why are you here in the Sheng daughter affairs, Next she told ML she's to densed Aunt is after favors for her SIL.. RL saw all through her plan and let her know right then she knows what she was after. Even braindead Big Mdm didn;t pick up on that.. Aunt had planned to use her connecvtion through her sister to get ML to curry her favors.. RK don;t really know how clever her Lil sis is, ML response was priceless she basically told her I have a book full of reciepts of good and bad deeds.. Now what in god nanmes do I owe you come if you want your not going to like it..  I was checking out the wat Aunt was sizing up GTY.. I know ML had to pick up on it.. She had the look in her eye like your not all that but yet at the sametime who could I hook him up with..

    10 hours ago, leeza77 said:

    Sh maybe right it was showy but he could have said it more delicately abd nit harshly. Beside, he sh have told that to general gu, and not to ml

    @leeza77  My thoughts exactly, He should hace went to GTY about the showy display. ML don't have the power to move and army to escort her.. This is GTY job and his way of showing the world how protective he is of her. I think SH wad just jello that he didn;t have and army or bodyguards escorting him, Another thing i think he was upset about is that his pet pea didn't have anyone escorting her and the Count.. Wasn't it back then that each manor had there own army also..? Why is it that Molan household seems so poor when they supposed to be a family of prestiege..

     

    9 hours ago, matrim said:

    Nice analysis of SH. Judging from the standard at that time, SH was a reasonably good father. Sure, he didn't treat his children equally and fairly, but he provided for them, got them a good education, and made sure they would marry well. In the matter of marriage, he didn't only care about the wealth and status of the families, but the characters of potential son-in-laws and daughter-in-laws. from this one can say he was a responsible father, better than many fathers then.  

    I'm sorry @matrim But are we watching the same drama.   Did you not hear what GTY said.. GTY knew if he went and ask SH for ML hand in marriage he would have flatly turned him down regardless to his status because SH was more concerned of his own status.. He wanted them to marry scholars and doctors to hold his own head up high and not having Son In Laws status above his.. Only this way he could still feel the need to walk with his head up high wanting to be the Big Kuhuna.. (In other words even if my sht stink it should still smell like roses to you) SH didn't care if any of those girls got educated.. It was Granny that push him to educate her.. Also for ML marriage he wouldn't have cared if she married a beggar in the streets.. He just didn't care about ML at all period..       

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