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5 hours ago, zinaa said:
Me too the first drama I watched for JH was Thank You which was years and years ago...maybe 9 or 10 years ago .... I also bought the DVD set from Malaysia with my firt Visa card..it was my first internet shopping experience hehhhe..... I wonder where is the DVD set now... I have to check ....
58 minutes ago, philosophie said:Random, but i wonder if writers will turn NMH into a character similiar to what the actress played in Whisper.
But I would like to see her lose that innocents act and be a lil more hardcore but kiiling a persons with kindness always hurt more then physical effect and it last longer especially when it scars the heart
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I say give the man the hardware he deserves it. I first got intorduced to JH from thr drama thank you he has some amazing emotional scenes in that drama also.. We can expect the dynamics of his emotions in this drama one that will take over the top more then the discovery of his Lil brothers body..
Come On Writer Don't Let Us Down
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13 minutes ago, zinaa said:
i think what all of you said is what we all hope for ... we hope for NMH to save KPJ (AKA JEC) again...
but imagine he took the name of his stepfather ... he is using the name of dead man.. am little confused here
@zinaa No one is using KPJ fathers name KPJ has been living as a dead person because he supposed to be dead but now he has shown lil by lil to those that want him dead he's still alive and can ruin there plans. JSM was ther father name the dead man KPJ Lil brother is dead so is his mom thanks to the fake jangs..
I don't see how NMH will save KPJ because when he choose to give her up (NMH) he said his revenge will be taken no prisoner and he knows JMR will try and use her against him at some point.. Remember she wants KPJ and Mr.Oh dancing to only her tune..
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11 hours ago, triplem said:
Yes , finally all caught up. I must say the last 20 mins of eps 10 was so unexpected. I never thought that YSW would confront NMH , and NMH's swift but composed response was surprising too. I really like this writer. Keeps me engaged. I like how all the characters are so grey. Our protagonist KPJ for instance is so driven by revenge , that he would do anything, thankfully he did not actually strangle YSW to death. You are right, his main motivation is not even Cheong A - he wants to get back at JMR. He will be willing to crush Cheong A group once it's almost in JMR's grip just to make her cry bloody tears.
@triplem We all know JMR did what she did because of greed money power and the status that comes with the last name.. The best revenge against JMR is to snatch it all from her she feels that this family owes her even death isn't enough payback for her.. I some how thinks G/pa isn't as dumb as they thinks he is.. I don't think he (KPJ) would crush Cheong A.. My opinion on this the tower is just the stepping stone to turn it in a group as of now each branch is holding there own Uncle wants to turn into a group now but G/Pa wants to see the towes build before it becomes a group.. I think KPJ holds more stock in those companies then all of them..But we shall see just how things turn but I just don't see him giving up his G/Pa's dream for his own revenge..Best revenge is to build it and none of them has access to it but KPJ.. I tell you I would like to see some kick out of they positions is uncle son and JBC.. It would be nice to see KPJ having a driver pulling up to Cheong A towers and all those greedy misfits standing in a row bowing to him as he enters the building like the lowly employees. JMR at the head pf the rows
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8 hours ago, triplem said:
I am halfway through eps 10 and wanted to say this scene was quite powerful..I put in spoiler as it semi grossed me out ( I really don't want JMR to touch him and I know he is feeling quite sickened at the thought as well seeing how tensed up his hands are) though I think it is important as it further magnifies the kind of power play between them.
@triplem Hello you all caught up now good.. What really sickend me was when G/pa kick KPJ out did you see how JMR went into to his old room rubbing his bed covers like that one would think she was caught by her parents with her forbidden lover.. JMR longs for any kind feels she can get from KPJ but her feels are real for her when his are fake.. This is why I think she's going to flip her lid once she finds out who KPJ.. Just think the child she tried to keep away was already in the home so close and yet so far.. To deny one there home already in the home to deny one and education gets his education.. To deny one of there family wealth ends up getting the family wealth.. Just loving it..
TBH now I don't think KPJ is doing his revenge for the family inheritence he just wants revenge for his family from the woman that destroyed it..
8 hours ago, fiesty8001 said:KPJ and NMH are already in the woods. I'm praying for the elopement. JMR will die from the shock and JBC will have a stroke. This way KPJ gets his revenge and NMH her first love. Just run away to the island and have doe- eyed babies.
@fiesty8001 No I don't want any kind of elopement in this drama and besides NMH don't seem the type to let YSW just step in her place after what she's done.. NMH didn't just decide to take in her child for no reasons.. What YSW thought after learning of her and JBC past relationship NMH would bow out of the picture but she forgot to factor in what she did hanging around NMH like some kind of stalker when NMh was genuine with her treated her with sincerity.. Now she's getting her weapon snatch up from her she should be worried if she will still be alive after all is said and done.. JMR will kill her off to keep her from having any attachment to them in the future..
6 hours ago, Prettysup said:I think he just wanted Woo to have an excuse of keeping the money for himself instead of it landing in Jang Sung-man's hands, nothing to do with the truck. He is planning to drive a wedge between the 2 fellows, and also to get hold of Woo's secret which he can blackmail later.
@Prettysup KPJ is one smart cookie he knows everything about everybody from G/pa down to JBc b---tard child.. This is how I think G/pa will reliquish everything to him in the end.. Because he's showing the old man he's capable enough to run it all have it all,especially if he makes G/pa dream come true Cheong A towers his legacy will carry on after he's dead and he'll be proud to know it's his bloodline is in charge.. KPJ will get that money back and some.. Most thinks the towers won't be built but I hae to disagree I think he'll build it no matter what..
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9 hours ago, larus said:
I think I will have to watch again because I don`t remember the scene where we found out that Jung Mal Ran was pregnant and that`s why she married Jang Soo Man. I remember when they said that Boo Cheon is walking in the footsteps of his father and I remember when it was said that Jang family don`t treat the family outside marriage very well. It is possible that she kept the secret about a boyfriend and she married Jang Soo Man because her family wanted and that`s way she resolved the problem with the pregnancy but somehow I doubt it was this way. But I want to know what really happened with Soo Man. He was really sick or he was made this way? I can see Mal Ran capable of murder if her position would be jeopardized. Boo Cheon`s paternity is her major weakness.
@larus That was just a theory of mine.. Maybe she went along with the marriage because who she was pregnant by if JBc dad was a man of no status it's no way her parents would have allowed her to keep him so shde had three options
1.abort the child
2.give him up for and adoptions
3. get married
She choose the latter so whatever bad happens to her and JBc they had it coming.. JBc was innocent in all this but he will find out the real son is alive and want him dead to he's a threat to them all..
8 hours ago, philosophie said:Omg yes, I’m so on board the theory that JBC isn’t even related to JMR and she either kidnapped or adopted the baby from somewhere. The reason why I think she didn’t give birth to JBC is because she didn’t seem unfazed letting him get married and mov8ng away. Basically her greed and ambition is much more powerful than her supposed love for her son, which is quite possible since we saw this with NMHs dad who’s her actual dad (at least we th8nk so lol jk...maybe?
) so I know that’s not a valid reason to justify why JBC isn’t her kid, but we also know she has the potential to do such a thing. And I’m also on board the assumption that JSM never slept with her and possibly knew that the kid in the very least wasn’t his.
@philosophie I'm almost certain that JBc may not be her child and she's using him to the end.. Once everything is in place she'll kick him and his child out to take it all..
7 hours ago, bebebisous33 said:I had the same thought because you can never be sure if your future child is a son... she has a daughter and it was stipulated that a daughter doesn't receive much. So in her case, she definitely needed a son, especially if the mistress has herself two sons. I mean, Jang EC's little brother was born in the same year than JBC. A pregnancy can never guarantee this outcome for 100%. But I don't think, she could have asked for JSM's sperm. In other words, JMR could have even fake the pregnancy and adopt a son.
My thoughts exactly @bebebisous33 She's more then capable of this with the help of Mr Oh whom I'm dying for the writer to show us just how connected him and JMR really is besides him killing off those kids.. I still think JBc is really his son..
@philosophie It's no way she adopted JBc to much background info is needed in this case with her it would be kidnapping.. KPJ is the lead in the story and it's about his revenge he won't be dying I think Jbc is the one that will be dying maybe even JMR she'll die because of her greed along with Mr.Oh
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15 minutes ago, UnniSarah said:
YSW’s greed is amazing because I just remembered another reason for her to run away. When she met JBC’s Mom. HIS MOM TOLD HER THE MISTRESSES OF THE JANG AND THEIR OFFSPRING ARE DEAD. Shouldn’t she had ran away after she heard that threat.
Instead she chose to stick around and she will keep sticking around because she thinks she is smart. Smh smh smh This why I could never respect or pity her
@UnniSarah This is why I find NMH very clever.. She even agreed to take the child into the home as a Jang.. Lil that she knows Jang is just a last name when it comes to power the Jangs in that home is nothing but fakes.. YSW wanted to be position in that family with her child just wait NMH is really going to throw her for a loop because I do think she will tell YSW that JBC is iligitmate right along with the same story JMR told her but the added twist one of the kids didn't die and she knows who he is and already has his child.. She may even tell her to take her son and his father because they not related to the family.. I really think the writer has something in this nature to happen to those so called Jangs NMH will get rid of them all for KPJ.. Maybe it would be her to test the daughter with her own child but she may even think to re-test JBC to see if he's any relation to JMR. It really would be something if he's not related to her another shocker to us all if this happen she snatch up someone else child and brought him there claiming he's there blood.. That would make me think she had a onesided crush on JSM and did anything to have him..
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12 hours ago, hyall said:
I am enjoying this drama it is actually quite funny. That scene with the hanbok men was really hilarious I agree.
@hyall Wasn't that scene hilarious and the servant 4 generation G/son decided to come out of his shell then LMAO.. Do something with your son.. LMAO There was a lot of hilarious scens in the last episode..
YY friend is just to nice she's going to be a doormat in any job she do to people pleasing but she might fit in there..
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22 hours ago, larus said:
His grandfather was right. He is useless but he is a "product" of that family. His fear of his mother or grandfather is real. It is sad how the two cousins fight against each other and hate each other but they were made this way
@larus Sorry to cut your post.. JMR really don't realizes what kind of position she has put her son in.. If The cousins and his father finds out KPJ is the older brother son he'll (JBC) become a tool for them to use against KPJ.. G/pa has told him over and over again to man up and learn to do things on his own but yet he or the mother can't shake off KPJ because they depend on him so much.. If uncle re-test JBC he's really going to become the fool the mother played the family to be.. If this happen he'll be stuck between a rock in a hard place..KPJ Uncle and Cousin will use him and no way will he and mother would be allowed to go away unscath.. Uncle don't seem the type to let JMR off the hook with just a goodbye..
Regarding your other comment about the family pressured JMR into getting pregnant I think JMR was already pregnant when the marriage occured.. JSM could have thought of to bring his own kids in the family since her baby was iligitimate she knew she was in a losing place if he brought those kids there because eventually both his kids would have dominated in the home because they were the true bloodline so she thought to get rid of everybody that could stand in JBC way to inherit all.. The marriage could have been a business deal but she accepted it because she was pregnant out of wedlock and thought she could fool JSM that she got pregnant during they honeymoon but he seems the type that didn't sleep her during that time and her coming up pregnant wasn't a good thing for her.. She knew she had to do something to protect her position and give her son a noble life.. So my conclusion is JMS was going to divorce her and she wasn't having it so kill kill them all.. Because the diviorce would have been granted due to her lies and JBC parentage..
15 hours ago, philosophie said:Woah 24 episodes?! Was it aLways 24 episodes or did they get an extension because I swear it used to be 16?
@philosophie I think we would need and extension to wrap it up nicely to much is going own 4 episodes should do it..
14 hours ago, jongski said:So who do you think is JBC father?
@jongski I think JSM was faithful to his childrens mother and seemed to be a very happy man with them.. Another reasons JMR wanted him dead because she was lonely and could never get any affection from him no matter what her family background was money or looks couldn't charn him and she seems the type to try and use all her assets to get the men she wanted but her charm didn't charm him and the more he rejected her the more she wanted him..
I also think Secty Oh is both JMR kids father I don't think the girl is even related to the family.. If you think logic in this drama Jbc is just a lil older then KPJ youngest brother maybe by 6 months at the most when you see the flashback KPJ mother was a very heavily pregnant woman who could give birth at any minute.. Due to JSM stress at that time do you think he would have been sleeping with JMR maybe she got pregnat again and panic about what to do because at that time Secty Oh was her comfort.. She knew she could use her charm on him and he'll do what she wants..
14 minutes ago, triplem said:I just completed eps 8, just curious or rather to confirm the impression I got: at the end after the wedding scene, was it implied that KPJ slept with JMR? All these scenes of them showing some sort of sexual tension between the two is making me ...lol....shudder....I know they are mutually using each other but I wanted to know whether it has gone to that level?
@triplem No it hasn't got to that level but JMR notices the looks they give to one another and told KPJ sleep with her in his heart but she is JBC wife.. The only way she could see that because she was watching him around a younger woman and thinking if NMH was some kind of threat to what she wanted.. Shurrder just thinking of her thinking of him in that manner.. Well he is the closet she'll get to her dead husband.. Just wait all the attention she got would become fake feels to her and may send her over the edge because she will see it as JSM send KPJ to take care of her and JBC for what they have done..
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I laugh so hard this epiodes it was just hilarious in the scenes with those ol men.. (Fire Me) LMAO.. That fool told his dad and G/pa who we kidding it's enough we not noble we decendants of a servant we ware these handboks all year long thats reason yall break out in rashes in the winter..
I laugh so hard I had tears coming from my eyes..
The look on YI face when told her to eat up when will you get boss to serve you.. LMAO
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4 hours ago, larus said:
I do wonder what will happen between Boo Cheon and Pil Joo in the end. I have a feeling that Boo Cheon will die in the end and I wonder if Pil Joo will feel sad for him, maybe just a little.
@larus I think the discovery of BC identity will comes from him needing a blood transfusion.. JMR and Mr.Oh may find out who KPJ is and try ton kill him on the sly but instead get JBc.
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8 minutes ago, bebebisous33 said:
@jongski I still have to watch the episodes 9 and 10 hence I could make a mistake. However, I think that there are some differences between JMR's past situation (JSM and his "mistress") and JBC, NMH and YSW's actual situation:
- I believe that Jang Soo Man was forced to marry JMR because we heard in an earlier episode that Cheong A was facing a difficult time that's when JMR's father jumped in and helped the company. JMR complained to the chairman that her father and family did a lot for the success of that company. The marriage was part of the deal. I sense that the grandfather forced his eldest son to marry JMR. So from the start, it was a marriage of convenience. Since KJP is older than JBC, this means that the relationship started before JMR's marriage.
- JMR has always considered JBC's marriage as a marriage of convenience which reveals her mentality. She even alluded to KJP that she knew about the existence of the mistress and his family. She knew that they were happy. She resented her husband.
- In my opinion, KJP's mother was never after the money unlike JMR. As conclusion, the situation is reversed. While the housewife was the intruder in JSM's case, it is the exact opposite in NMH's case. YSW is after the title and the money, whereas the wife is the exact opposite.
- In order to keep her place in the Jang's family, she had to get pregnant. Because with no child, JMR could have been thrown out. Like the grandfather mentioned it, a child is necessary in order to make the bounds between the two families stronger. Without a grandson and a loving husband, JMR had everything to lose. JSM could have asked for a divorce and even have his two sons recognized by his father. Wasn't the mother Ahn Ho Kyung a famous swimmer? If so, then this could have been a positive aspect for the grandfather.
- Hence I sense that JMR could have killed her husband with the medication. But honestly, I would like JBC's uncle to be behind it because he is no saint either.
Like I wrote it before, I wished the chairman Jang would be punished for his greed, selfishness and narcissic personality. I really hate him because all the suffering is coming from him. He forces people to do bad things.
Love toy insight @bebebisous33 Yes JMR had to have those children dead.. She couldn't allows them to come in and take things she feels that rightfully belongs to her and her family and her marriage help Cheong A.. Still the thing is she hide her pregnancy and had the family thinking she had a honeymoon baby this could have been when JSM discover she was pregnant.. Yes she knew he was a happy man with the family he already had and she dispised that so because she was unhappy she had to make others feel the misery she did.. Afterall she came from and elite family and being pregnant out of wedlock would have looked bad on her and her family.. They marriage was a marrige only on paper no love was involved the more JSM gave her less attention and showed the love he has towards his already made family the more she craved his attention and wanted the same from the man for her son as she watch him with his own kids she knew he would never be close to her kid as he was to his own so what better way to stop his affection towards anything that he loves is to take him out of the picture..
I alsio sometimes think that the brother had something to do with his death.. Both parties could have been apart of him dying they bith had reasons to want him dead.. But I had also commented back then I think she killed him with medication saying they were pills for headaches and slowly feeding him poison..
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11 minutes ago, triplem said:
Waves @jongski I know I’m in good company here reading you & all the folks who have posted .
@sava2sava Only 24? Not 30 ...oh , I hope they wrap this up nicely. Ok with 24 if the plot & pacing continues as it is.
But yes let me jump in and say I hate JMR even going anywhere near KPJ. When he hugged her to comfort her I felt so uncomfortable. And Omo is she going to seduce him further ? Yikes !!!
@triplem Even Mr. Oh asks him to comfort her.. It's just horrifying looking at those scenes.. I'm not going to spoil it for you..
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29 minutes ago, triplem said:
This is indeed no ordinary weekend drama. Why is this not prime time or maybe is this MBC's way of rejuvenating the weekend slots? Anyhow , just happy to have started watching this today.
@triplem This drama would indeed made a good 100 episode daily.. I just don't see how this writer will tie things togather with just 24 episode most weekend family dramas go about 50.. I'm still wondering why 24..
34 minutes ago, Prettysup said:Korean netizens comments on episode 10:
'Money Flower' Park Se-young discovers Jang Seung-jo and Han So-hee's affair
1. This is a really crazy drama, today's ending is crazy hahaha.. can't wait for next Saturday (+1678 -36).
2. Park Se-young now seems to be wearing her own dress, though it is heart breaking (+1374 -40).
3. This is not a makjang drama, it is a masterpiece (+1334 -50)
4. Today Park Se-young's acting is really good, I feel so pitiful for her (+1059 -36)
5. First time I have come across such a high quality makjang drama, can really feel Jang Hyuk and Park SY's pain. Han So-hee reminds Jang Hyuk of his own mother, that's why he feels so pained. Park SY feels pain because of her father, and now she is becoming more and more like Lee Mi-sook, feel that she will betray her husband. Lee Mi-sook deserves to be punished for causing their sufferings. (+386 -16)
6. Jang Hyuk's murderous eyes are so handsome ~ Mo hyun and Pi-joo's destinies are going to get sadder and sadder (+335 -7).
7. Jang Hyuk's acting today is crazy when he cried in front of Kyung-cheon's grave sob sob sob (+331 -9)
8. Jang Hyuk's acting really raises goosebumps ~ Let's have a happy ending with Park SY having a son with Jang Hyuk, both of them are so pitiful sob sob.. After watching today's ending, both of them are destined lovers (+327 -9)
9. Yoon So-won, "Sister you are so kind, please listen to me", Jang Boo-cheon "Mo-hyun you are so kind, please forgive me"... It doesnt pay to be too kind (+324 -8).
10. In the end, give birth to Jang Hyuk's child in the Jang family (+305 -8).
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@Prettysup Good to see the knetz or on the same page with us when it comes to NMH giving bith to KPJ child a true Jang.. After looking at the small minus from these people makes me wonder who are these people and whats runing in there viens.. How is it that NMH should just take a back seat toJbc infidelty maybe they think she should divorce are they not watching and understanding things as we do.. Woow
47 minutes ago, philosophie said:Each time, JMR is going behind the back of the men to deal with the women. KPJ brushes it off as his loyalty to JBC when JMR notices his hand and mentions they’re drifting away from each each other Cause JBC is his master and not JML. Which I’m not sure if she secretly is satisfied with or actually dissatisfied and wants KPJ to be her dog not her sons. Gosh she’s as greeedy as her son. I don’t know, it’s so confused. So far KPJ says his plan is to make JBC chairman but actually a scarecrow and then when JMR thinks she owns cheong a, she takes it out of her hands. For this to happen, JBC will be in the crossfire too, so even if KPJ cares about JBC, he’s still another tool for revenge like NMH? What was he planning to do when NMH would Lso be in the middle of this revenge scheme and her supposed mother in law is completely screwed over?
@philosophie This is the best revenge ever make Jbc a puppet scarecrow and NMh is the head of it all with her child being listed as Kpj child on paper.. This is JMR karma she still didn't get what she wanted. She still don't get what she tried so hard to make hers at the expence of others lifes.. She's and Evil Bitter Witch..
@bebebisous33 Don't you find JMR seductive seducing scenes grusome when she looks and touches KPj she makes my skin crawl in these scenes wanting that youngman.. She is a very lonely woman has been for years this is why I questions JBc sister bloodline..
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3 hours ago, triplem said:
Thanks all for the warm welcome. I have just completed eps 2. And gonna start eps 3 in a bit. Have to say it's really addictive and I am happy that I have the day off today. This scene was really powerful. The rhetoric question of who really is the master and the servant .....
@triplem Yes this scene shows how calculative and manipulating KPJ really is.. He knows what to do that makes KPJ dangle on his strings.. KPJ knows that the coward JBC is nothing without him and brought him this far.. G/pa has told JBc to do things on his own and not to rely on KPJ so much but JBc life is to far in KPJ hands and he won't survive 1hr without him.. KPJ is his G/pa G/son.. He's been controlling it all from day one..
50 minutes ago, bebebisous33 said:KJP had never intended to become close to JBC but he realized that JBC had taken the place of his deceased younger brother. During the whole episode 8, KJP acts as JBC's older brother.
50 minutes ago, bebebisous33 said:By giving NMH to JBC, he put NMH's happiness first. To me, KJP was happy with their marriage. He was content with the thought that he had made NMH happy. He really thought that JBC had changed. Like he said, he wants to crush JMR and with his past, KJP knows that he can never make NMH happy. Since JMR is greedy and ambitious, she would never accept that KJP is the real master and JBC is just a puppet. However, KJP thought that JBC considered him as his hyung... but he hid many things from KJP. The latter feels betrayed by JBC. No wonder if he really resents JBC in the end.
@bebebisous33 Yes KPJ did consider JBc as his younger brother but Jbc betrayal to KPJ destroyed that closeness.. For the hurt he has put on NMH is the end of such closeness.. At this point KPJ is taking no prisoners especially when it comes to anything related to Jbc and Jmr.. KPj feels like a fool doing all to help the cowardly weasel while his brother has been lying cold in the ground in and unmark grave while Jbc wants to drag his iligitimate child there.. I don't see how he could sit still and watch and allow all these iligitimate kids to keep coming in.. With Jbc character the son he has now wouldn't be the only one Jbc has.. Jbc is weak when it comes to women and feels because of who he's supposed to be he's entitled to have any woman he wants so his extra martial affairs isn't going to stop. There would be more in the future.. So now it's time to start nipping somethings in the bud when it comes to this.. It should be comming up on Kpj dad memorial.. I bet he have his brother remains moved there were they dad remains is.. This is to send Jmr and Mr.Oh into a frenzy.. He will start to reveal part of his dads past to G/pa slowly but surely.. He will surely mark his tablet second son of JSM which will indeed send uncle out searching for some truths about his brothers past and where is the eldest son leaving G/pa to questioning the past.. Jbc will ask his mom about this and she will discover he knows who he is and may figure out what his mom did as she tells him she did it for him.. Maybe Jbc will also help in starting find the eldest son he will also want him dead.. He sure as hell not going to want to take a backseat to it all because of who he is.. It would be nice if he found out first who KPJ really is..
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Come on in @triplem your in good company.. Your right this isn't your average weekend drama..
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This drama sounds interesting I; join in on the fun Like the lead actir and hasn't seen him in a drama in a while loved him in coffee prince
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1 hour ago, UnniSarah said:
@philosophie @sava2sava.... Yes , JBC got the beating he deserved...I was so happy and scared at the same time when he was beating him. KPJ beat him up really badly. The reason why he kept in touch with YSW was only for the child. Although it looks like cheating but he hasn't slept with her. YSW would lure JBC away from wife by using her son. She would try to initiate contact but he so not into her, His body language saids it all. JBC is in love with NMH. He would defend his wife infront of his grandfather. He wanted his wife to be stress free. I will admit KPJ was like a proud papa, whe he saw some change in JBC. JBC has gotten stronger away from his mom. KPJ was very angry with JBC but his love for JBC is much stronger. I think in the end , KPJ will try to protect JBC in the end.
@UnniSarah All JBC could do is be KPj puppet in the end..KPJ will use him to no ends thanks to his mother.. Mistress knows that it's easy to seduce JBc as she had always done using her son to get him there she knew he would come because he has a soft spot for the boy but thats all she needed to do was get him there and the rest was history.. This part was shown through the scenes from the airplane that he was still sleeping with her.. KPJ pit his trust in JBc because he always thought of him as his half-brother but since he has discovered the real reasons by his family killings I don't think it's no way he will forgive JBc and mother for what they have done even causing NMH to lose her own child while Jbc tries to drag his child in to take his family inheritence at the expences of his mother and brothers death no way will KPJ allow this to keep going on.. Greedy people keeps trying to take whats not theres to begin with from there rightful owners.. KPj can't allow this to keep going on regardless to who it is or belongs to.. I could see him giving everything to his first cousins who should be entitled to it being that he has been apart of the family from day the day he was born.. As @larus these kind of family dramas do put in the remind of Sagueks were all the princes are fighting for the crown to the throne and so is KPJ in his own way.. I can also see KPj taking a backseat to it all as long as he owns it all leaving Jbc as the owner in looks but can't bust a grape in a fruit fight without KPj signature because he's the rightful owner to it all..
1 hour ago, bebebisous33 said:We shouldn't forget that KJP swore to NMH's father that his daughter would be happy with JBC. He really believed that JBC loved NMH and would never meet YSW behind NMH's back. JBC disobeyed his order. KJP's promise to NGC (NMH's father) has been broken.
@bebebisous33 So glad you decided to join us.. Yes the promise was broken for NMh to be happy in the Jang family at the time Kpj didn't know that Jbc wasn't a Jang but his promise to her dad will still be kept if NMh child is a child of the family rightful bloodline..
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20 minutes ago, jongski said:
Hi chingu. I'm happy you're checking this one out. Jang Hyuk's character here as KPJ is.. scary. he can kill and he will if he has to. It doesn't matter whether it's the receptionist or even JMR The way he choked the receptionist/mistress. What's good about the drama is how JH character is clever in doing his revenge.
@jongski His character is really scary when he was choking the mistress in his mind all that was going through it was his brother lying dead in the freeing cold all these hyears for these illigitimate brats yes at that point he could kill.. Kill them all but he knows this isn't thed best reenge for then at this point MR.Oh JBc and his mother death is to good for them he wants them alive to see it coming for them.. The sins that Jbc mother and mister Oh committed is coming back to them including Jbc and his son..
20 minutes ago, jongski said:JBC we know is not a Jang. He knows it. KPJ knows it too. But JMR wants to hold onto that Jang power and money. Does she wants to prove something? She wants to be the Jang that accepted by the family and she's going to do anything to achieve this.
On the other hand, KPJ wants to find out why they did that to his little brother and his mother. Why they were fooled and lied to and was told somebody would meed with them. He believes and is convinced it's JMR .
@jongski I'm more incline to believe that JMR comes from the slums like the mistress or maybe even and orphan.. It's no way would she want to be cast of of riches with a child making life more harder on herself and child.. Power and money is what she'll need to survive.. She kinew hadc both boys came into the home her children wouldn't have stood a chance because KPJ is the true eldest son.. At some point it would have came out that she cheated on her husband and gave birth to a child that wasn't his.. Another thing is KPJ has learn why she tried to kill them because of JBC bloodline and her own selfish greed and maybe because KPJ dad never loved her because we can see she's really starving in that department thinking money will make up for all she's done and been through
Which brings me to question Jbc sister age and birth identity.. So hurry @bebebisous33 and catch up and give us your wonderful insight..
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11 minutes ago, philosophie said:
I know JBC is greedy cause he admits that he was his wife, illegtimate son, and cheong a. Here’s the thing, i would have hated him wha less if he 1) back then after finding out he’s not a jang, relinquish his title and break up with NMH so he could be with SW and his kid or 2) keep his birth secret a secret to the whole world but tell NMH the truth not just about his identity but his son too so that secret won’t go on for so long like it has now and cut things off with recep. Here’s another thing, I totally have this future scenario in my head where (as we can see we by how vindictive and impulsive SW is by hastily telling NMH wassuo even though I don’t mind) SW refused adoption and goes to press about her illegitimate son. This somehow causes or triggers a ripple effect to sabotaging NMHs dads election and he looses last opportunity to become pres. NMH, knowing how much SW wants her son to have the jang name, purposely is one who also admits to press that JBC is not a jang.
@philosophie JBC is really his mothers child the greed knows no bounds.. I do agree with you and have quoted in my comments that he should have came clean with NMH when he told her the truth about his identity and should have told her about his past with the woman that had been lurking around her pregnant.. (which makes me wonder was the tramp aware of NMH being preggo in NY and had something to do with those past miscarriages) After learning of his identity he should have gave it all up but he and mother both knows what it's like to live like royalty and no way would he trade it for nothing that mistress and son has to offer.. He's not aware of the things his mother did to keep him in that place and even after he learns of it I don't think it would phase him much because he also thinks everything at Cheong A rightfully belongs to him thinking he's entitled because he's listed as the eldest G/son..
Now when it comes to the mistress even if she threatens NMH dad campaign NMH could come back and threaten her about JBC identity which mistress will never see it coming.. She'll keep her mouth shut or have them all in poverty something she wanted so badly to escape from..
Another thing is I see the baby thing happening between KPJ and NMH because it would only secure her place in Cheong A and also her dads presidentual election. It will be NMH that throws that family out in the streets by now she has to be thinking that JBC and mother has plaued her and her family for a fool for the last time.. I could see her taking everything from them..
Another thing I think what happend back then is Mr. Oh work for this family as a driver for KPJ dad JMR got pregnant and being the greedy witch that she is could have threaten to kill his child because she didn't want to live life and have her kid look down upon growing up as a driver son so what better way to watch the kid grow up in riches is to set it up as if KPJ dad slept with her and got her pregnant..
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14 minutes ago, philosophie said:
whats funny is I keep forgetting JBC isn’t actually a jang so it’s intrresting how blood isn’t what makes you similiar to fam8ly, is more like the heart and who raised you. That’s why KPJ is so unlike his bio dad.
On behalf of those like me that wanted to badly go through the screen and knock some sense into JBC, I thank you KPJ aka JEC very very much for the much deserved beating.
@philosophie JMR evil is so twisted she actually believe that JBC is truely a Jang now since she eliminated all that could hinder his past so she thought and the more KPJ play this cat and mouse game with her and Mr.Oh to rattle there cages we will see the cool calm and calculated lady come unglued and maybe slip from her or Mr. Oh's mouth about what he actaully did I'm looking forward to hearing actually how did the man really die.. As long as G/pa isn't aware of it he's safe but these two id evil enough to kill the old man if he has the slightest hint of the two of them.. The pair could off the ol mans wife.. I bet after she learned of the two boys living outside the family home and she told him to bring them and the mother.. I still beileve none of JMR kids are Jangs and both belongs to Mr.Oh..
Yes that was a much deserved beating KPJ gave JBC but my mind is still blown by what he actually ask KPJ to help make his son a true Jang.. KPJ couldn't believe that after all he did to help him marry NMH he still cheated on her as if KPJ cheated on NMH himself.. Something I believe his father never did to his mother nor would he hae done it to NMH had he married her.. KPJ would decieve the world but never the woman he loves had she belonged to him.. When he agreed for NMH to marry into that family he knew she would be his weakness.. Marrying into the family would secure her safety and he could keep watch over her if someone was to learn of his and NMH past..
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23 minutes ago, bebebisous33 said:
Since I haven't watched the other episodes, I might make a mistake but I am wondering if his father's death was not a murder as well. Let just say that Jang Soo Man wanted to leave Cheong A behind and live with his children, maybe JMR had to get rid of him because he would have divorced her. We saw that the grandfather thinks about divorce. A marriage is business. He even stipulated that a divorce would make the contract avoid. If JSM had divorced her, JMR would have lost everything... She could have had an interest to kill him.
@bebebisous33 I've been wondering the samething and came to the conclusuion she killed him she knew she would lose it all because JBC isn't biologically related to that family so she had to kill whatever would have been her her sons way.. Including the so called father.. I'm been questioning her relationship with Mr.Oh just what is his connection to JMR that he would kill for her.. The only conclusion I could come up with is he's JBC real dad..
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7 hours ago, Prettysup said:
Yes she is going to show some power now! But taking the child in, she is clearly telling YSW that she is just a surrogate mother, no way is she going to give her a chance to step into the Jang household as a rightful mistress man !
@Prettysup NMH will tame the LIl receptionist by spilling JBC birth secret to her and tell her if she wants her child to live a chabeol life to get lost or both child and JBC will end up with nothing..
Now if NMH do have the real heir I hope she keeps it a secret from the mistress..But only 24 episodes in this drama I don't see the writer going to deep into her having KPJ baby..
6 hours ago, kohnlee said:I’m not sure about u guys but my heart ache when KPJ needed to use his own cold hard cash to transfer to NMH Father becos the Uncle took the money away haha! Look that’s hell a lot of money!
@kohnlee He'll get it back KPJ being playing uncle all this time he'll follow the money and use it at the right time once he gets a hold to the money this could when he really tell uncle and G/pa who he really is. Taking the money and throwing G/pa under the bus is a death sentence for the son.. I could see it turning out to be JBC really would end up doing jail time and KPJ take over the reins to it all being that JBC isn't biologically related to that family.. The only saving grace for JMR is that her daughter trully a Jang but G/pa is big on things staying wi8th the Jang bloodline so daughter and mother would probably leae the house just with daughter inheritage..
4 hours ago, yoeda said:@Gerry58 the dress Se Young wore in MDGSW is so simple but very pretty. My taste exactly.
Btw, it's ironic how NMH save the YSW child in her early pregnancy but YSW make NMH lost hers in the early stage. so, still ever wonder who to root for? lol.
I have the crazy theory that NMH knew all along about the revenge. Maybe she already knew who KPJ is and take part in the game. hahaha. You can't guess anything in this drama coz it's always try to shock you.
@yoeda It's no way NMH hasn't thought of a plan of her own.. She's going to make JBC and mistress pay for playing her especially JBC when he had plenty of time to tell NMH about the tramp.. I think another way to get back at JBC ands the childs mother is to take him in give him the last nane Jang as the mother wants but don't means that he'll live in that house and be treated as a true Jang remeber NMA knows JBC big secret.. Off to boarding school that boy goes JBC nor his mother would be able to see him until adulthood.. That's real payback to the both of them and to add icing on the cake is to announce at the right time that she has the true Jang heir..
2 hours ago, chowderina89 said:Her son will never be a JANG. She will have a shock when she will find out that JBC isn't the real heir
The kid will be kicked out like his father (JBC) and grandma (JMR)@chowderina89 This is the real payback because mistress thinks she will get in later after her son is next inline to the throne and NMH will be kick out ot leave on her own LIl that she will know NMH won't be going any where it would be the son she wanted to ware that last name and big price for her to pay for being greedy.. Just like JMR all her hard work will be for nothing because is still going to the rightful owners.. It's really going to be hard for JMR and JBC to bounce back because they always had it to easy.. They all will hae to start from dirt which either knows how to do even the mistress.. The selfish people..
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8 hours ago, Prettysup said:
'Money Flower' has a rating of 12.7% on November 11 when it first aired and has steadily increased its ratings, reaching 15.3% last week. If the trend continues, this drama which has a total of 24 episodes, looks hopeful to hit 20% as the conflicts between characters continues.
Thanks @Prettysup I thought since it was a weekend drama it would be 50 episodes but it's only 24 well we should see another time jump by next week or christmas eve weekend.. No episode 12 will show another change in this drama maybe by episode 18 KPJ identity is revealed..
Between JMR and the whacky greedy brother they both will want KPJ dead..
When the brother betray his father it would be KPJ the one that saves G/Pa..
7 hours ago, standingtallyy said:In the hospital scene with JBC, SYW, JMR & JBC and NMH was the only person who has no idea SYW is the mistress, I cried for NMH(silly me
). Well, JBC and SYW underestimated this nice girl. NMH maybe nice, but she ain’t stupid..
@standingtallyy No the mistress miscalculated his mother thinking she would be happy just because her son was a boy and learned the story of the women having kids out of wedlock.. Mistress tan to NMH to protect her child but end up getting her child snatch up from her.. 10 to 1 Mistress will try and run and hide with that child when she was told to do that first time around.. Now she's really going to live in fear..
7 hours ago, viktormani said:The past is repeating itself, husband and wife both have children out of wedlock. I mean what goes around comes back around.
@viktormani This is JMR sins coming back to her for stepping in a place she shouldn't have been in the first place.. Her sins got past to her son and in the end the real family she tried to hide and kill still end up in they rightful place.. I hope if NMH and KPJ do have a kid she would name it after KPJ Lil brother really rub salt in JMR wound..
6 hours ago, flounder2004 said:I agree with you that NMH isn’t stupid. She may have figured out that her marriage was a business deal from the beginning. Hence, she acted the way she did, not requesting for a divorce knowing the full impact on her dad’s presidential run. I applaud her for her compassion in taking in his baby even though her intention for raising the baby was to prevent JBC from seeing the mistress. She could have resorted to her MIL’s way of handling the mistress but she didn’t.
@flounder2004 NMH isn't one to mistreat a child but if she knows she's carrying the true heir to it all it's a whole different ballgame.. JMR isn't aware of NMH or JBC knowing that he's illigitmate NMH will tell the mistress who JBC really is why she was sleeping her way into riches only to end up with rags..
4 hours ago, kohnlee said:Have not watched both episodes with Eng subs but I do want the Writer to give NMH character room to grow. She cannot continue to stay naive and ignorant. Let the character grow otherwise NMH will become very boring to watch.
@kohnlee NMH is going to give JMR and JBC a run for they money and show her who is the real queen B in this house..
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) so I know that’s not a valid reason to justify why JBC isn’t her kid, but we also know she has the potential to do such a thing. And I’m also on board the assumption that JSM never slept with her and possibly knew that the kid in the very least wasn’t his.
The kid will be kicked out like his father (JBC) and grandma (JMR)
). Well, JBC and SYW underestimated this nice girl. NMH maybe nice, but she ain’t stupid..
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@zinaa Mind blowing all the time KPJ knew who JBc dad was it didn't take a genius to know who JBc dad was and all this time I had been questioning Mr.Oh relationship to JMr.. So he killed for his son not so much for JMr..
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