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[bebebisous33]

@celebrianna @USAFarmgirl @zenya22 @Deerprincessxoxo In my opinion, JEH will be able to defend herself. Here is what I am thinking: JEH left her husband with the intention of coming back to the house in order to retrieve the cellphone. But for that, she needed time and needed to learn how to defend herself. In my opinion, during the time she stayed away from the house (she spent months hiding), she learnt martial arts. Maybe the dream we saw earlier was her wish to defeat her husband and not an experience she lived where she defended herself. About KCK: I only watched the last minutes, nevertheless the way KCK is about to abuse his wife is really disturbing. He is not in a rage or drunk where his actions can be somehow explained . He is not acting on impulsion and emotion. The way he abuses is terrible as it is calculated and well prepared. It takes time to put the "gloves" in order to punch her. He is meticulous and cold-hearted. Really rotten to the core... 

 

Furthermore I came to realize that the novels and movies JEH liked have all something in common: a true love where the couple had to face some hardship and had to wait until they reunite. So her wish will come true: her true love is Dr. HKW and in order to come true, they need time and trust. However, at the end they will be able to be together. 

[celebrianna]

@bebebisous33, I agree. I also think she learned self defense in the time she was gone. They’ll be a lot to talk about with this episode because quite a bit was revealed. Totally agree on KCK too. I don’t understand his motivation because like you pointed out, there’s no trigger that sets him off or maybe we’ll find out more with the subs. I think he’s done a number on JEH because even with her skills she still looks shaken. Perhaps her old self cannot help but respond this way since this will be her first test and confrontation with her past demon who’s waiting for her in that basement room. 

 

I went back to watch the ending and my blood pressure surges just watching the way JEH is obviously trembling and afraid and her menace of her husband is steadily and calmly intimidating her. It might be too much to ask that she snaps out of it and stand up to him but I hope she does. I think Dr. Han might have told her to leave the house earlier in the episode but she probably refused so he’s still worried and has shown up now. I’m speculating without subs though. However, I definitely know he had a talk with her brother and JEH’s doctor and he probably found out how dangerous KCK is and the current situation JEH is living in.

[bebebisous33]

@celebrianna Her reaction to her husband at the end is actually not surprising at all. We have to imagine (if our theory is correct) that she has never stopped her husband before. So feeling scared and intimated is a normal response but we saw that each time one man grabbed her in the past, she had an immediate response and defended herself. I would really love it, if JEH protects herself without the help of the doctor. Besides, imagine her husband's reaction, when she is able to throw him over her shoulder. KCK was able to frighten her because she felt so small and powerless. Yet, if she shows him how strong she has become, KCK will realize that he can no longer control her with his strength. 

[celebrianna]

@bebebisous33, I really hope she responds that way. The other times she showed her skills she didn’t have her memory of the past to impede her. She reacted on instinct. However, with her husband, the psychologist effect of the past abuse might be paralyzing if she’s overcome by the fear she felt at that time. That’s why I’m also hoping that she conquers this and defend herself. I also do not want Dr. Han to rescue her. I want her to fight back or rather pay back her husband for his treatment in the past.

 

I realize that JEH vacillate between strength and weakness. I think she needs to be resolute about her end goal. I don’t think she has one or rather, I don’t think it’s clear. What does she want? Does she want to rescue Dara, get a divorce and rebuild her life? I think she needs to make a decision and follow it up with determination. In this way she can fight for this head on by making plans, setting boundaries and following through. 

[zenya22]

1 hour ago, bebebisous33 said:

About KCK: I only watched the last minutes, nevertheless the way KCK is about to abuse his wife is really disturbing. He is not in a rage or drunk where his actions can be somehow explained . He is not acting on impulsion and emotion. The way he abuses is terrible as it is calculated and well prepared. It takes time to put the "gloves" in order to punch her. He is meticulous and cold-hearted. Really rotten to the core... 

KCK also does not take any responsibility, it is someone else fault as when he absolves himself in the episode when JEH first found the CCTV room when she pulled out one of the disc and the door sort of opened. While she was in there CK comes into the basement , frustrated because the JEH who just returned was not the JEH he had first imagined as the woman she was when they were dating. He then looks at the sofa in that room and imagines his daughter sitting there reading the Bluebeard book and he gets very angry and started yelling "it is not my fault, I told you never go into the room, why did you, it is not my fault" and proceeded to wreck the room in rage. Luckily for JEH, he did not go inside the CCTV room. Poor Dara must have seen more than she should have in the "scary room". She became mute inorder to protect her mother. Now, I am more curious than ever to know what is in that phone, what is the "secret" that KCK is hiding. 

 

We have to remember also that EH was drugged in the past. Dr. Jang said that the family had consulted many "psychiatrist" who diagnosed her as depressed and prescribed antidepressants. She was also being given sleeping pills. Tae kwando or any other self defense would not have worked then because she was too doped and her instinctive responses slowed. That bathtub scene where she was in the water unconscious and her wrist bleeding was staged to convince anyone who saw that scene that she was depressed. They must have called a doctor who would have deemed JEH suicidal and depressed when they saw that. KCK is off his rocker and what is dangerous is that he appears normal so people do not usually suspect him. Except for Dr. Han and Jang but now detective Kim. I think the senior maid, Ms Hwang knows more than she is willing to say. 

[zenya22]

4 hours ago, bebebisous33 said:

Her reaction to her husband at the end is actually not surprising at all. We have to imagine (if our theory is correct) that she has never stopped her husband before. So feeling scared and intimated is a normal response but we saw that each time one man grabbed her in the past, she had an immediate response and defended herself. I would really love it, if JEH protects herself without the help of the doctor. Besides, imagine her husband's reaction, when she is able to throw him over her shoulder. KCK was able to frighten her because she felt so small and powerless. Yet, if she shows him how strong she has become, KCK will realize that he can no longer control her with his strength

@bebebisous33, @celebrianna I agree, that EH reaction to her husband is not surprising. Jung had put out the nightgown she was wearing the night she was bleeding from her wrist and yelling for help and her husband standing over her. Remembering that night triggered the emotion of fear. However, we know that she has found confidence in self defense. The last moments of episode 32, she was in the basement, frightened, her eyes lowered and she was trembling, but as KC was walking towards her, EH raised her glance to meet her husband's gaze and her facial expression changed to determination just like her face changed when she first remembered who she was in the basement and said "EH has returned" .... so yes, I think she will give KCK the biggest of surprises with self defense flip 

 

Before that though, KCK's jealousy, possesiveness was already triggered. I don't know what Dara had said to proud grandma who was surprised to hear Dara being able to speak. KCK had a smile and pride in his face when he paused, turned around and saw the fish doll Dara was holding. The expression on his face changed in a split second like Jekyll and Hyde to something scary. He does not like EH leaving the premises unescorted. I hope Dara did not say anything about meeting the ahjusshi.

 

 

[celebrianna]

@zenya22, @bebebisous33, @USAFarmgirl, subs are out in an alternative place to Viki. Watched the first episode and I feel so bad for JEH because she basically said that either she or KCK has to die. There is no other option.  Since he’s so wealthy and his family has clout the only way to escape him is through death. Wow. And I’m calling it now that maybe the hostile reporter can play a role in bringing KCK down and therefore give JEH a way out. I assume that reporter is there for a reason. I can’t wait until somebody tear the mask off of KCK’s fake identity. And his reporter assistant gets on my nerves with all the hero worship.  

 

@bebebisous33, Sleeping with the Enemy was mentioned in the episode. JEH told Dr. Han about the symphony, it’s meaning and the words.

 

@zenya22, I’m watching the next episode so I’ll look out for that determined look you mentioned. I swear I almost couldn’t contain myself when KCK entered Dr. Han’s office and punched him especially after JEH just admitted to Dr. Han that she was abused. I honestly wanted Dr. Han to kick him after punching him. I really can’t stand man who abuse women and perhaps he thought Dr. Han was a weak woman. That was a good opportunity for a strong person to give him a dose of his own medicine. Ah, my blood is boiling so much.

 

Okay, I’m off to watch the next episode.

[celebrianna]

Just finished watching the last episode and I’m getting a headache with how riled up I am.

 

I ignored Jung’s schemes because abusive men trumps scheming women for me in terms of my loathing. But let me just say that I kept wondering why in the world does this crazy woman want an abusive man and then JEH brought it up and I got my answer. Jung thinks KCK wouldn’t do that to her unlike like sandbag JEH. It’s almost laughable how strong her delusion is but okay I get it....she’s batty. Also, Jung thinks she no longer has to tiptoe around Dr. Han because her hitman 2 got rid of hitman 1. I think hitman 1 is still alive though. 

 

The reporter girl asked JEH’s brother to do the makeup at the news station for a week while they look for a replacement. He reluctantly gave in but I think it will become useful since Dr. Han and Dr. Jang wants to build a case against KCK. Dr. Han already came to the conclusion that KCK’s image and reputation is his pride and it’s the only weapon they can use against him to help JEH. Therefore, Dr. Han thinks the answer is the press. I think by the brother working at the station he will find out about the hostile reporter and his investigation. The EF Group will have connections to prevent a police investigation and a trial so they need someone determined to rip the mask off Mr. Fake.

 

Chairman Min was dropping hints of her regret for not raising her child properly. She gave CY advice to be a mom to her kid because to her it seems like CY doesn’t want to be a mom. I like how she gave a dose of reality to CY by telling her Dr. Han is a good man but he doesn’t seem to be the type to marry for a kid. lol 

 

As soon as scumbag (the translators have Dr. Han calling KCK a scumbag too) found out JEH must have regained her memory, first through Dara and next through Jung, he sadistly proceed to set up a meeting with JEH in the basement. @zenya22, I looked at JEH and I couldn’t be as confident as you that she’s ready for this. She was indeed steadfastly holding KCK’s gaze but she was shaking and the pulse in her throat didn’t give me confidence. However, I hope she snaps out of it and defends herself if he really tries to hit her.

 

I must say this is not a good situation at all. She can’t stay fighting him off in that house. He will be a constant and present danger to her. She can use the videos as leverage but I don’t know if this is the time to reveal that they’re in her possession. Dr. Han already warned the brother to keep the videos safe because without them JEH doesn’t have a ground to stand on. I hope he put them on a cloud as well because the driver probably took JEH to the pharmacy and if KCK asks the driver he will know she went to visit her brother after meeting with Dr. Han who gave her the phone. A laptop can easily be stolen. Also, Jung already warned KCK that he should take the phone to an expert to see what actually happened with the phone. The brother gave it a factory reset and I believe in real life the data would all be gone but I don’t know what an expert could surmise. They might figure out the phone was reset on purpose to cover something up.

 

By the way, Dr. Jang said KCK thinks he’s omnipotent. No wonder he beat up JEH for seven years without any fear even though he’s a public figure. I hope his comeuppance is satisfying.

[zenya22]

4 hours ago, celebrianna said:

I looked at JEH and I couldn’t be as confident as you that she’s ready for this. She was indeed steadfastly holding KCK’s gaze but she was shaking and the pulse in her throat didn’t give me confidence. However, I hope she snaps out of it and defends herself if he really tries to hit her.

@celebriannaSorry to cut your post and thank you for the summary. Yeah, maybe I was reading much more to it because I do want her to defend herself. She was shaking and her pulse jumping, yet if she had trained for a long time, her body will respond as was trained to do, like she responded with CPR to Dr. Han collapsing even though she was thinking of jumping off that wall, that thought just disappeared when she saw someone else in trouble. Maybe if a thought of Dara comes to her, it will push her to action. Her body is already in automatic defensive position with her fists clenched and her feet apart. She can't do boxing one on one with him but she can do kicks and ju jitsu moves which is using the weight and the strength of the adversary against them ala (Lawless Lawyer). It also will also help that KCK does not know she trained in self defense and will not expect that from her. 

 

about Jung thinking that KCK will not make a sandbag of her is yes delusional.... in many ways KCK already abuses her, humiliates her in front of his mother and wife and the help by reminding her that she is the help, yells at her when she has not accomplished what is expected no matter where they are and who is listening as in the broadcast station, will put the blame on her for everything he will be accused of, will not hesitate to rid of her if he thinks she is a danger to ruining his "image". The main reason why Jung needs to be out of the mansion, she is a danger to Dara. Who had put and locked Dara in the "scary room" where she witnessed the abuse and fainted? That is why EH needs to fight back both husband and butler. And Jung is not his type to obsess over so for him it will just be easier to just rid of her ....even permanently. KCK described his wife once as innocent yet honest, kind yet feisty something like that... nothing that describes Jung 

 

@DeerprincessxoxoWelcome to the thread, happy posting!!! 

[bebebisous33]

7 hours ago, zenya22 said:

@celebriannaSorry to cut your post and thank you for the summary. Yeah, maybe I was reading much more to it because I do want her to defend herself. She was shaking and her pulse jumping, yet if she had trained for a long time, her body will respond as was trained to do, like she responded with CPR to Dr. Han collapsing even though she was thinking of jumping off that wall, that thought just disappeared when she saw someone else in trouble. Maybe if a thought of Dara comes to her, it will push her to action. Her body is already in automatic defensive position with her fists clenched and her feet apart. She can't do boxing one on one with him but she can do kicks and ju jitsu moves which is using the weight and the strength of the adversary against them ala (Lawless Lawyer). It also will also help that KCK does not know she trained in self defense and will not expect that from her. 

 

about Jung thinking that KCK will not make a sandbag of her is yes delusional.... in many ways KCK already abuses her, humiliates her in front of his mother and wife and the help by reminding her that she is the help, yells at her when she has not accomplished what is expected no matter where they are and who is listening as in the broadcast station, will put the blame on her for everything he will be accused of, will not hesitate to rid of her if he thinks she is a danger to ruining his "image". The main reason why Jung needs to be out of the mansion, she is a danger to Dara. Who had put and locked Dara in the "scary room" where she witnessed the abuse and fainted? That is why EH needs to fight back both husband and butler. And Jung is not his type to obsess over so for him it will just be easier to just rid of her ....even permanently. KCK described his wife once as innocent yet honest, kind yet feisty something like that... nothing that describes Jung 

 

@DeerprincessxoxoWelcome to the thread, happy posting!!! 

I have just finished watching the episodes which were really good. And now, I can discuss more about the ending.

I see a change in JEH compared to her first reaction, when she saw the night gown. She didn't tremble so much like in the dressing room.  Secondly, you see her clinging her fists which underlines her resistance to succumb to her fear. Her husband is testing her. Because of Da Ra and JSJ's comments, he wants to confirm if she has got back her memory. So she has two solutions in order to avoid the domestic violence:

- either she regains her composure and still fakes her amnesia

- or she stops him from beating her by defending herself

But then something came to my mind: KCK has an allergy against saponin which JEH learnt a few minutes before. Notice that JEH didn't put the night gown on... so I had this crazy idea that JEH decides to put on her saponin so that her husband gets an allergy shock. She can explain that she was in the kitchen cooking for the guest and she didn't know about his allergy as she has amnesia. I have just read that even sea animals like sponges, starfish and sea cuccumbers contain saponin. So maybe she can use the visit to the aquarium. The husband is unable to beat her and is sent to the hospital!! Okay, this is just a crazy idea.

 

I agree with you that JSJ is delusional. She thought that KCK would marry her, however he is obsessed with JEH as she symbolizes innocence, honesty and purity: symbol of true love. Striking is that KCK has not realized that he is losing little by little:

- His own mother is disappointed with Jung and has decided to send her back to the headquarters. This means, Jung won't be able to work as his spy in the house.

- Moreover he is now suspecting Jung and mistrusts her.

- His brother-in-law knows the truth hence he can no longer manipulate them with his lies.

I sense that president Min will come to help JEH in the end. First, she was able to recognize JEH's qualities. Back then, she believed Jung hence she thought that JEH was suffering from depression aso. Moreover, I am quite sure that Jung must have painted her as an opportunist therefore she didn't welcome JEH as a daughter-in-law. Nevertheless, Min saw that thanks to her, Da Ra started speaking again. Secondly, she even admitted her own wrongdoings the way she raised KCK. The words she said to CY revealed a lot about her: "If you take a shortcut, while raising a child, you pay for it dearly later on in life". She even advised her not to give her son just to anyone. And now, we can imagine what happened, when KCK was a child. He was neglected by his mother and the person who took care of him might have abused him. This would explain why KCK fell in love with JEH, an innocent and honest person. JEH represented the exact opposite of his mother. KCK has been looking for maternal love in reality. So his jealousy and insecurities towards his wife are linked to his hatred for his mother. By beating JEH, he shows his hatred and resent for his mother. Since he feels that his wife "betrayed" him just like his mother, he feels that he needs to punish her. Since he could not hurt his mother, all his resent and hatred are put onto JEH... By the way, my explanations are not a justification for KCK's abusive behavior. This man needs to be treated. The question is: will president Min accept that her son's wrongdoings are exposed? Imagine the shame...   

 

Finally, Jung made a huge mistake, when she used president Min's phone in order to hire the second killer. President Min got to hear that detective got killed. The hitman mentioned the name in front of her. In my opinion, president Min will be used as a witness... first, she will get suspected as they can track down her phone number. Dr. Han will try to find the second hitman and use the phone call history. The moment Min is connected to detective Kim, she will claim her innocence and remember that Jung used her phone. Min will remember the words the hitman used therefore Jung won't be able to escape this time. Min will realize the real personality of Jung. She witnessed it in the audio room in the basement but thought, Jung just made a mistake.  

 

To conclude, JEH has been able to win more support for her cause. She has now doctor Jang, doctor HKW, the detective Kim (I believe, they faked his death), the house maids and her own brother.  So little by little, she is gaining more power. @celebrianna I do think that JEH has been thinking about doctor Han. yes, she wanted him out of her life because she didn't him to get hurt. However, when she looked at the snow ball, she had this small smile. So it looks like she has a goal.

 

As for CY, I have no words. The last two episodes clearly revealed that she never wanted to be a mother in the first place. She does see YJ as a burden and the reason she wants doctor Han is simple: she wants him to raise YJ in reality. She is delusional too, when she thinks that she loves him. This is not love... this explains why CY reappeared in Han's life after her mother's death. She needed someone for her son and saw Han as the perfect candidate. He was the biological father after all. 

 

EDIT: @USAFarmgirl After giving some thought, I came to realize what the videos contain:

- in the first video, it reveals how KCK abused his wife.

- in the second video, Jung got filmed while cutting JEH's wrist.

Jung is well aware that if KCK saw that she tried to kill JEH, he would definitely hurt her or even kill her. That's why she ran away with the cellphone as she wanted to erase that video. KCK really believes that JEH cuts her wrist because of the abuse. He also thinks that Da Ra's aphasia is caused by the suicide. However, he is wrong... DR fainted because of the violence she witnessed. She doesn't trust her father. Nevertheless, since Jung has been manipulating KCK for so long, he didn't realize that the abuse might have been caused and triggered by Jung. The latter wanted to get rid of JEH. She did everything in her power to destroy JEH. Imagine his reaction, when he realizes that he destroyed his own marriage as he had been easily manipulated by Jung. Right now, he still thinks that he is superior and better than Jung. President Min's words are going to bite her back: "don't put your son in just anybody's hand!!". And she did it again. She trusted the wrong person. 

   

[celebrianna]

@bebebisous33, KCK was in the room when Jung was persuading Dara that she fainted because her mother attempted suicide and not because she saw him abusing her mother and that’s why she can’t talk. At first Dara shook her head to refuse the idea but then Jung threatened her that she won’t see her mom and then Dara agreed. The scumbag was present because when Jung bent over we saw him standing there and he rubbed his fist across his lips. He doesn’t know the truth behind the suicide but he does know Dara stopped talking because she saw him hit her mom.

 

It seem to me that JEH romantically gave up on Dr. Han after she saw he took off the bracelet. That seemed to have affected her a lot and so she tried not to get him involved in her trouble. Of course she likes him and there are these tender moments for both of them but there’s that barrier between them because she’s married and KCK keep reminding or threatening Dr. Han that JEH is his wife. So, I think JEH goal right now is to get herself and her daughter out of that house safely after paying back Jung and KCK but I don’t think her plan will go smoothly without any hiccups. 

 

I also agree that CY is worse mother of the year and she shows absolutely no interest in being a good one. The child is probably better off with the granddad. I liked the scene with the meeting of the parents and kids. At least the kids were getting along but Dr. Han and JEH sure had some grave matters to discuss. I agree with Dr. Han to caution JEH. I keep thinking Jung will poison her tea. LOL

 

As to the allergy for KCK, I also think it was mentioned for a weapon against him. Just as long as JEH doesn’t kill him I’m fine with any use she makes of that.

[bebebisous33]

@celebrianna Yes, I know that he was in the room but deep down, when he heard Jung saying this to DR makes him believe that JEH is the culprit. He will always blame others so that he doesn't need to face any consequence. To me, he has convinced himself that JEH is the one who hurt DR. If the "suicide" hadn't happened, then he would have no one to blame. 

[celebrianna]

20 minutes ago, bebebisous33 said:

@celebrianna Yes, I know that he was in the room but deep down, when he heard Jung saying this to DR makes him believe that JEH is the culprit. He will always blame others so that he doesn't need to face any consequence. To me, he has convinced himself that JEH is the one who hurt DR. If the "suicide" hadn't happened, then he would have no one to blame. 

You’re right and Dr. Jang even said this to Dr. Han too about KCK. He never admits his mistakes and framed his wife for Dara’s aphasia. Words cannot describe how much I don’t like KCK. It really hit me how smug he is when he walks into Dr. Han’s office and punched him. He really believes he’s untouchable. And I can’t forget how much he will not let go of the fact that Dr. Han gave JEH plastic surgery. He still wanted to tarnish Dr. Han’s reputation in front of the reporters. This is why I hope his take down devastates him completely. 

 

About his mother, I don’t know if she would take JEH’s side. After all, blood is blood and it seem to me that in Asian culture family comes first and it’s a betrayal to turn on one’s family member. I see it repeatedly in Asian drama but I don’t know if that’s the case in reality.

[bebebisous33]

@celebrianna We have to remember that president Min wanted her son to divorce JEH. So if she discovers that

• DR's aphasia is linked to the domestic violence of her son against his wife,
• Jung tried to kill JEH in order to marry her son,
• she even hurt her granddaughter DR by letting her witness the beating,
• her son's reputation can be even more damaged (JEH and Han can show her the evidence)

I believe that Min will force her son to sign the divorce papers and let her have the custody rights of DR. Hence she will help her to cut ties with KCK.

 

The latter is making a mistake: he believes that he is omnipotent. He is famous and is the "heir" of EF Group. We could see that when it is convenient, he uses his position as the son of president Min to put people under pressure like Dr. Han for example.... However once he loses his position as anchor, he loses his power and becomes dependent of his mother which he hates. So his power is quite small and fragile which he hasn't realized yet.

[celebrianna]

@bebebisous33, I truly hope she helps JEH to escape KCK. I wasn’t sure if she would allow JEH custody though because rich people are often portrayed as wanting their children to remain under their custody. I hope she remembers her advice to CY and allow JEH to raise her daughter because surely she’s too busy with her company and Dara needs her mother. I also hope she allows JEH to freely live her life.

 

On the other hand, if JEH and her gang have enough damaging evidence against KCK, the power of decision making would be in their hands so I guess Chairman Min would also be agreeable to their terms. One thing about her is that she isn’t rigid in her views. They are subject to change. I just don’t know how much to trust her regarding her own son.

[bebebisous33]

13 minutes ago, celebrianna said:

@bebebisous33, I truly hope she helps JEH to escape KCK. I wasn’t sure if she would allow JEH custody though because rich people are often portrayed as wanting their children to remain under their custody. I hope she remembers her advice to CY and allow JEH to raise her daughter because surely she’s too busy with her company and Dara needs her mother. I also hope she allows JEH to freely live her life.

 

On the other hand, if JEH and her gang have enough damaging evidence against KCK, the power of decision making would be in their hands so I guess Chairman Min would also be agreeable to their terms. One thing about her is that she isn’t rigid in her views. They are subject to change. I just don’t know how much to trust her regarding her own son.

She has already acknowledged that maternal love is really important. She even admitted that thanks to JEH, DR started speaking again that's why I am inclined to believe that president Min will make the right choice. Remember that president Min wanted to meet Dr. Han because of the beauty shop. Dr. Han had recently discovered that president Min had made him the offer due to CY therefore he wanted to annul the contract. However, I sense that president Min will talk him out of it. First, his office linked with the beauty shop helped EF Group a lot. President Min is first a CEO before being a mother. She even refused her son to use her company in order to threaten Dr. Han. I believe, she will react the same way. She has even acknowledged that dr. Han is a good man: reliable and a good doctor. She has no reason to accept the canceling. Her company is more important than her son... she was mad at KCK, when he betrayed her (revealing the scandal which damaged her company) therefore she can do the same for him.

In my opinion, she is not fully aware of her son's wrongdoings. I have the impression that KCK abused her in a certain way: JEH would never show any bruise on her face. He must have punched her in the stomach... covering his fists was to make sure that it would leave no traces on his hands and on her stomach (the marks of his hands couldn't be recognized).  

[celebrianna]

@bebebisous33, love your post. I’m quite frankly glad to see this actress is playing a character that is reasonable. I actually like Chairman Min except for her brief moments of unreasonable and unjustified harshness with JEH. What gives me pause is that time when her son wanted to end the business relationship with Dr. Han she told him if he wanted to do that then join the company and make the decision himself to end the business relationship. I’m not entirely sure she didn’t mean it. 

[bebebisous33]

1 minute ago, celebrianna said:

@bebebisous33, love your post. I’m quite frankly glad to see this actress is playing a character that is reasonable. I actually like Chairman Min except for her brief moments of unreasonable and unjustified harshness with JEH. What gives me pause is that time when her son wanted to end the business relationship with Dr. Han she told him if he wanted to do that then join the company and make the decision himself to end the business relationship. I’m not entirely sure she didn’t mean it. 

Well, she was portrayed as cold, determined and quite calculating. BUT I have to say that when she was shown like that in the beginning, we have to put all the things into the context:

- KCK married JEH in a hurry and left for the States for two years. Min had never met JEH before.

- JEH came from a family belonging to a lower social class. A rash wedding and a person coming out of nowhere... she must have seen JEH as an opportunist. Moreover, KCK helped with the organ transplant for the brother. She had reasons to suspect JEH for being an opportunist.

- Then when she lived with them, Min barely saw her and didn't want to eat with her

In my opinion, she had a negative image of JEH based on the circumstances of the marriage and Jung. I am quite sure that Jung manipulated Min from the beginning. Min trusts her a lot, since Jung could use her car and even her phone without Min being upset. All this time, KCK and Jung painted JEH as depressed housewife therefore Min resented her. She had everything and yet she seems so unreliable and useless...

- Later JEH disappeared without leaving traces and never appeared again. KCK hid from his mother that JEH wanted to leave him... he excused her absence with the point: she wants to spend time with her family. So in her eyes, JEH was definitely rude. To me, Min is more open-minded than it appears. She acknowledged JEH's good efforts and thoughts. She is fairer than it meets the eyes.     

[celebrianna]

@bebebisous33, yes, I have no doubt that Chairman Min had a very unfavorable opinion of JEH from the beginning and it was reinforced by Jung’s manipulation. I understand all that. I just have a problem with her slapping JEH and also being just as rude to JEH as she thinks JEH has been to her family. I marvel at these people who elevate etiquette and manners and don’t even realize how much they lack it themselves in particular moments. That’s my only problem with Chairman Min. 

[bebebisous33]

13 minutes ago, celebrianna said:

@bebebisous33, yes, I have no doubt that Chairman Min had a very unfavorable opinion of JEH from the beginning and it was reinforced by Jung’s manipulation. I understand all that. I just have a problem with her slapping JEH and also being just as rude to JEH as she thinks JEH has been to her family. I marvel at these people who elevate etiquette and manners and don’t even realize how much they lack it themselves in particular moments. That’s my only problem with Chairman Min. 

Well, her social background is another reason why she felt superior and entitled and looked down on JEH. That's right... but honestly, she is better than CY because unlike the latter, Min is able to recognize her own mistakes. CY is not, just like KCK and Jung. All of them are delusional which Min is not.