[Mainland Chinese Web Drama 2020] Three Lives Three Worlds The Pillow Book 三生三世枕上书

[Aari sky]

5 hours ago, Yori Ten said:

This. Si Ming didn't know although he thought he knew. Tai Chen palace played their cards right, using him as the device to fan the rumor. Being a capable gossiper, of course allm

 of the 4 seas and 8 realms came to believe that DH went to the MR. This news spread far and wide, even to the underworld with XGC also believing it.

Which makes it the biggest plothole of three lives three worlds theme!! 

 

And when mortal emperor was abt to get stabbed by the demon, FJ jumps in front of him yelling "Donghua" and Qingti jumps infront of her. 

 

Basically FJ went through so much hardships in mortal realm coz she thought she was protecting DH and replaying his debt and in the end all of that was for nothing.. 

With or without mortal DH, Qingti importance doesn't change coz his bond and sacrifice lies with his love for FJ, where as DH presence changes a lot for FJ who went to the mortal realm only coz she thought DH was there..

 

So what is the official three lives, three world forms of FJ and DH?

[Aari sky]

21 minutes ago, Megan said:

Once again I realized something new.

technically, while Dong Hua and Feng Jiu are blissfully married. Dong Hua is still allowed to get concubines.

for eternal love, Ye Hua was engaged to Bai Qian, but the sea princess and SJ hoped to win his attentions as concubines and maids.

We all know that maids are not good positions to win attention and affection in this drama. The sea princess and Feng Jiu themselves learned how ignored that position can be.

but it makes one wonder whether there will be more ladies trying to become concubines for DH. They will certainly have hope now that they know the emperor does have a loving heart.

especially Zhi He. Once her exile is over, will she try to become a concubine? Ok....is that even possible?

but then, this foster Sister tried to become a bride so....

Concubines? lol

The fact that Donghua finally took interest in a woman is a huge deal for all the realms.. when he was the heaven lord of all realms he remained single now he is retired so forget concubines the fact that he got married itself is worthy of celebrating

[MayanEcho]

35 minutes ago, Megan said:

Once again I realized something new.

technically, while Dong Hua and Feng Jiu are blissfully married. Dong Hua is still allowed to get concubines.

for eternal love, Ye Hua was engaged to Bai Qian, but the sea princess and SJ hoped to win his attentions as concubines and maids.

We all know that maids are not good positions to win attention and affection in this drama. The sea princess and Feng Jiu themselves learned how ignored that position can be.

but it makes one wonder whether there will be more ladies trying to become concubines for DH. They will certainly have hope now that they know the emperor does have a loving heart.

especially Zhi He. Once her exile is over, will she try to become a concubine? Ok....is that even possible?

but then, this foster Sister tried to become a bride so....

 

Even if DH and YH can have concubines, they are both one woman men. Besides, who would still dare to make these them accept one, or to try become one.

 

Unless they have forgotten their formidable empresses?  One empress gouged the eyes of the previous side consort. The other empress digs holes and traps and is very skilled with swords.

 

Zhi He? After exile, would she dare live with FJ whom she mistreated so much in the past? Well maybe if she is that foolish. Anyway, in the book she stayed away after ZL told her she has no practical skills and she's ugly.

 

Don't forget, DH carved half his heart for FJ. A man who does that will never look at any other women. The only women he'll gaze at with love in his eyes will be wife FJ, and any daughter they'll have.

[chsaf]

22 minutes ago, Megan said:

Once again I realized something new.

technically, while Dong Hua and Feng Jiu are blissfully married. Dong Hua is still allowed to get concubines.

for eternal love, Ye Hua was engaged to Bai Qian, but the sea princess and SJ hoped to win his attentions as concubines and maids.

We all know that maids are not good positions to win attention and affection in this drama. The sea princess and Feng Jiu themselves learned how ignored that position can be.

but it makes one wonder whether there will be more ladies trying to become concubines for DH. They will certainly have hope now that they know the emperor does have a loving heart.

especially Zhi He. Once her exile is over, will she try to become a concubine? Ok....is that even possible?

but then, this foster Sister tried to become a bride so....

Of all people, DH would be the last to take in a concubine, actually even if he is the last male alive he wouldn't take one in. Only FJ could stir up love in his heart 

[MayanEcho]

6 minutes ago, chsaf said:

Of all people, DH would be the last to take in a concubine, actually even if he is the last male alive he wouldn't take one in. Only FJ could stir up love in his heart 

 

One should not forget the story of Zhe Yan why DH moved to Jiuchongtian to his Tai Chen palace. 

 

He had years of throwing off demon beauties until the night it was a lad waiting in his bed.  

 

There will only be his empress FJ in his heart, and harem, nobody else. 

 

[jimmylyne]

44 minutes ago, Megan said:

Once again I realized something new.

technically, while Dong Hua and Feng Jiu are blissfully married. Dong Hua is still allowed to get concubines.

for eternal love, Ye Hua was engaged to Bai Qian, but the sea princess and SJ hoped to win his attentions as concubines and maids.

We all know that maids are not good positions to win attention and affection in this drama. The sea princess and Feng Jiu themselves learned how ignored that position can be.

but it makes one wonder whether there will be more ladies trying to become concubines for DH. They will certainly have hope now that they know the emperor does have a loving heart.

especially Zhi He. Once her exile is over, will she try to become a concubine? Ok....is that even possible?

but then, this foster Sister tried to become a bride so....

 

Although these words coming  from JH but actually she's guite observant about DH . And its actually the truth.

 

To Dijun, there are only two kinds of women in this world: the one who can be his queen, and everyone else (the Rest)

 

There's the one and only women in life his little fox Xiao Bai His Empress (at least before BGG's little is born).

 

 

[MayanEcho]

10 minutes ago, jimmylyne said:

 

Although these words coming  from JH but actually she's guite observant about DH . And its actually the truth.

 

To Dijun, there are only two kinds of women in this world: the one who can be his queen, and everyone else (the Rest)

 

Too bad JH refused to believe herself what she accurately observed 

 

The only women for DH are FJ and their future daughter/s and granddaughters. 

[Aari sky]

3 minutes ago, MayanEcho said:

 

Too bad JH refused to believe herself what she accurately observed 

 

The only women for DH are FJ and their future daughter/s and granddaughters. 

I think its because she observed so well her desire increased to be with DH even more.  Who wouldn't want to be that special? 

 

That's why she was desperate to chase away FJ and blackmail DH to accept her in his heart..

 

My hate for JH is on another level.. 

 

I can understand where su jin is coming from, She grew up with yehua and loved him from the time she was a child so her obsession and refusing to move on to anyone else makes sense. She deserved what she got.

 

But JH is like ur famous "White lotus" she will do all kind of evil things yet will get sympathy from someone in the end.

[Yori Ten]

1 hour ago, Aari sky said:

Which makes it the biggest plothole of three lives three worlds theme!! 

 

And when mortal emperor was abt to get stabbed by the demon, FJ jumps in front of him yelling "Donghua" and Qingti jumps infront of her. 

 

Basically FJ went through so much hardships in mortal realm coz she thought she was protecting DH and replaying his debt and in the end all of that was for nothing.. 

With or without mortal DH, Qingti importance doesn't change coz his bond and sacrifice lies with his love for FJ, where as DH presence changes a lot for FJ who went to the mortal realm only coz she thought DH was there..

 

So what is the official three lives, three world forms of FJ and DH?

 

I can see where you are coming from and why you felt that there is a plot hole in the 3L3W universe. I will answer your first concern first but from the POV of PB because in ELoD, DH did go to the MR as a projection:

 

As I and the others have already mentioned, the mortal arc was written in the book as a plot device to have FJ indebted not to the Emperor but to YQT. From there, we get the story line going in which she had to steal the Saha fruit, fell into Aranya's dream, revived YQT, gave him half her cultivation, DH assigned him as his successor, FJ found out DH is going to perish purifying the MHY realm, FJ went to the rescue, the end. YQT in mortal arc was an important catalyst to the story but not the emperor. So, FJ dodging the blade for the emperor and YQT dodging the blade for FJ was a motion setting event, irregardless of who the emperor is, it is bound to happen according to the author's intent.

 

As for your second question, I think you have taken the title at its face value. 3 Lives 3 Worlds does not represent the 3 lifetimes and 3 world settings of the main characters in TQ's work. Many first associated this when TMOPB first aired when they relate the lives of SiYin, Susu and BQ as the 3 representative lifetime and world in 3L3W. That is not so.

 

Three lives three worlds is a buddhist concept. Briefly speaking, the three lives are the past life, present life and future life. The three worlds are the world of desires, world of forms and world of formlessness and it is closely related to rebirth or reincarnation. TQ used this concept to explain the concept of fate, destiny, the six sufferings, life and death. She weaved her stories around the 3L3W universe and it is evident in all her works. Therefore, there is no official representation of FJ and DH life and world setting in 3L3W. It is but a mainframe to tell her story. 

 

Hope this answers your question. 

 

 

 

 

[Aari sky]

What is wrong with those Eternal love fans?

I just came across a post which says majority of the fandom preferred made-up story of DH and FJ in TMOPB over the canon one.  Infact DH and FJ story (Sequel ) became very much in demand Because of the angst and cliffhanger of TMOPB.. ufff!

 

I agree that EL is the best drama till date in xianxia genre, but apart from the parts related to BQ and Yh all the other sub plots are made up or inserted to act as a plot device and fill the time frame for the EP so that the main story would look even more appealing..

 

DH litreally doesn't appear through out the novel of Peach blossom, his name is just mentioned in few scenes, he was not interested in anyone's businesses . Like the novel says DH didn't even interfere when the war Happened b/w gods and demons 90000+ years ago but he personally came to rescue FJ from Aranyas dream... Sometimes I feel It would have better if the TMOPB just introduced the characters of DH and FJ without  making a love story for them and just sticked to the Canon work of peach Blossom. 

[Aari sky]

11 minutes ago, Yori Ten said:

 

I can see where you are coming from and why you felt that there is a plot hole in the 3L3W universe. I will answer your first concern first but from the POV of PB because in ELoD, DH did go to the MR as a projection:

 

As I and the others have already mentioned, the mortal arc was written in the book as a plot device to have FJ indebted not to the Emperor but to YQT. From there, we get the story line going in which she had to steal the Saha fruit, fell into Aranya's dream, revived YQT, gave him half her cultivation, DH assigned him as his successor, FJ found out DH is going to perish purifying the MHY realm, FJ went to the rescue, the end. YQT in mortal arc was an important catalyst to the story but not the emperor. So, FJ dodging the blade for the emperor and YQT dodging the blade for FJ was a motion setting event, irregardless of who the emperor is, it is bound to happen according to the author's intent.

 

As for your second question, I think you have taken the title at its face value. 3 Lives 3 Worlds does not represent the 3 lifetimes and 3 world settings of the main characters in TQ's work. Many first associated this when TMOPB first aired when they relate the lives of SiYin, Susu and BQ as the 3 representative lifetime and world in 3L3W. That is not so.

 

Three lives three worlds is a buddhist concept. Briefly speaking, the three lives are the past life, present life and future life. The three worlds are the world of desires, world of forms and world of formlessness and it is closely related to rebirth or reincarnation. TQ used this concept to explain the concept of fate, destiny, the six sufferings, life and death. She weaved her stories around the 3L3W universe and it is evident in all her works. Therefore, there is no official representation of FJ and DH life and world setting in 3L3W. It is but a mainframe to tell her story. 

 

Hope this answers your question. 

 

 

 

Thank you for explaining this so well :-)

 

But I'm still disappointed with mortal realm arc coz like said with or without Mortal DH, YQT equation doesn't change in regards to FJ, FJ could have followed her aunt BQ to mortal realm to help her with YZ and still the plot of YQT and FJ could have happened in a alternate way...which would have been much cleaner than inserting the non existent mortal DH..

[MayanEcho]

@Aari sky Her clinginess tops the chart  She would lie, blackmail, and scheme. It's useless though, and her forcing herself between FJ and DH earned her the unforgiving scorn and hatred of the emperor. And lockdown for her in demon realm, mwehehehe.

 

Su Jin was aunt zoned in TMOPB series  She was too spoiled by her foster parents and the foolish Tianjun. DH had to fix the problems his little monster he reared created. 

[Aari sky]

2 minutes ago, MayanEcho said:

@Aari sky Her clinginess tops the chart  She would lie, blackmail, and scheme. It's useless though, and her forcing herself between FJ and DH earned her the unforgiving scorn and hatred of the emperor. And lockdown for her in demon realm, mwehehehe.

 

Su Jin was aunt zoned in TMOPB series  She was too spoiled by her foster parents and the foolish Tianjun. DH had to fix the problems his little monster he reared created. 

DH had to fix the problems??

[Aari sky]

5 minutes ago, MayanEcho said:

@Aari sky Her clinginess tops the chart  She would lie, blackmail, and scheme. It's useless though, and her forcing herself between FJ and DH earned her the unforgiving scorn and hatred of the emperor. And lockdown for her in demon realm, mwehehehe.

 

Su Jin was aunt zoned in TMOPB series  She was too spoiled by her foster parents and the foolish Tianjun. DH had to fix the problems his little monster he reared created. 

But Poor YCW is stuck with her (period)

She will have someone to always sympathize with her and she gets to act like the victim.. I feel Zhi he is much better coz atleast she is transparent with her intentions..

[MayanEcho]

1 minute ago, Aari sky said:

DH had to fix the problems??

 

In TMOPB series, Su Jin accused wrongly Yuan Zhen of molestation. He's Tianjun's grandson via Sang Ji andd Shao Xin. Su Jin is punished over her use of witchcraft (Su Su carving sent to mortal YH), wrongly accusing Yuan Zhen, and slandering YH.

[MayanEcho]

3 minutes ago, Aari sky said:

But Poor YCW is stuck with her (period)

She will have someone to always sympathize with her and she gets to act like the victim.. I feel Zhi he is much better coz atleast she is transparent with her intentions..

 

Don't like Zhi He, she's also possessive and also lies a lot!  XY would be ending up not with JH in the future story of his. So even with a happy ending in ELOD for JH and XY...well, they aren't married yet, so it isn't the end of the world yet for XY! 

[Yori Ten]

5 minutes ago, Aari sky said:

Thank you for explaining this so well :-)

 

But I'm still disappointed with mortal realm arc coz like said with or without Mortal DH, YQT equation doesn't change in regards to FJ, FJ could have followed her aunt BQ to mortal realm to help her with YZ and still the plot of YQT and FJ could have happened in a alternate way...which would have been much cleaner than inserting the non existent mortal DH..

The mortal arc was so short in PB though. But true, she was indeed deceived and and a lot of readers were too. I guess the author wanted the make the story more engaging instead of having FJ following her aunt to the MR. The author will then have to come up with a motivation for her doing so. Why would she follow her aunt? 

 

Also, remember, PB is a story about how our little fox have loved only one person and is willing to go the extra distance for him. So, it makes sense that she would go to the MR for DH. And this also added an extra layer to how much DH have made our little fox suffer. Not only did she go down the MR, she came back a widow and indebted to another person. All in all, FJ going to the MR just goes to prove her love and sacrifices for DH.

[Aari sky]

Just now, MayanEcho said:

 

In TMOPB series, Su Jin accused wrongly Yuan Zhen of molestation. He's Tianjun's grandson via Sang Ji andd Shao Xin. Su Jin is punished over her use of witchcraft (Su Su carving sent to mortal YH), wrongly accusing Yuan Zhen, and slandering YH.

But in canon story, DH is not involved in anyone of these dramas.... He was just chilling in Taichen palace or taking care of the Miao realm.. he didn't know anything abt Siyin being BQ, he couldn't care less abt these things, he was never concerned with emperor bell coz battle b/w gods and demons is a very common thing which has been happening for year. DH is only concerned with Real dangers which can destroy all the realm to dust..

 

And Su jin was punished by the heaven Emperor...

[MayanEcho]

1 minute ago, Aari sky said:

But in canon story, DH is not involved in anyone of these dramas.... He was just chilling in Taichen palace or taking care of the Miao realm.. he didn't know anything abt Siyin being BQ, he couldn't care less abt these things, he was never concerned with emperor bell coz battle b/w gods and demons is a very common thing which has been happening for year. DH is only concerned with Real dangers which can destroy all the realm to dust..

 

And Su jin was punished by the heaven Emperor...

 

That's why I mentioned series  The Sky Kingdom Toland translation isn't as compelling to read compared to PB. I'm planning to reread it though as I go through TMOPB series again. 

[Yori Ten]

1 hour ago, Megan said:

Once again I realized something new.

technically, while Dong Hua and Feng Jiu are blissfully married. Dong Hua is still allowed to get concubines.

for eternal love, Ye Hua was engaged to Bai Qian, but the sea princess and SJ hoped to win his attentions as concubines and maids.

We all know that maids are not good positions to win attention and affection in this drama. The sea princess and Feng Jiu themselves learned how ignored that position can be.

but it makes one wonder whether there will be more ladies trying to become concubines for DH. They will certainly have hope now that they know the emperor does have a loving heart.

especially Zhi He. Once her exile is over, will she try to become a concubine? Ok....is that even possible?

but then, this foster Sister tried to become a bride so....

 

Haha..DH taking in concubines. Technically he could, yes. I would ram my head into a block of tofu if that were ever to happen though. The other ladies have explained it well why this scenario is not likely to happen. I just find myself amused by this train of your thoughts though. It's .... Refreshing.