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[Mainland Chinese Drama 2019] Novoland: Eagle Flag 九州缥缈录

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@a_tumiwa Based on my quick glance through of the books (whoever has read the books, please feel free to correct me):

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Suma never went with Asule to Lower Tang and was still alive when he left the grasslands. She married his oldest brother in exchange for him sending the Iron Army to save Asule, whom she loves. In the end she too did love her husband and was pregnant with his child. After her husband was put to death as a traitor by his 3rd brother with whom there is always enmity, she came back for him but miscarried. It is revealed that over the years of slavery, she had been secretly raising a 4000-strong army among the Zhenyan orphans and slaves who survived the purge, and when Asule faced conflict on all sides in the grasslands, she offered her secret weapon to him.

 

As for Baili Ningqing,

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I don't think it was explicitly stated what his relationship is with the Duke Baili, but he is definitely of the Baili clan. In the books, his father Baili Changqing was a important minister in the royal court until he was framed and put to death, but the Grand Princess took BLNQ under her protection, and he had been in her service since.

 

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I think Suma wants create havoc, she prolly was resurrected by LBC. When she followed Asule, she has this crafty look. And has this bewitching the eldest Prince kind of intention. Tink Asule loves her as a sister, like a security blanket when they were both kids. The eldest bro seems to be persuaded by this mysterious person to put pressure on the late king to make a decision to name him as the heir. He looks genuinely concern for Asule and dun seem to be a really evil person. The one who seems evil is the 3rd bro. I wonder if all of them have diff mums cos I heard 3rd prince said his mum is from wolf tribe oso or something.

 

Saw the shots for epi 51 and 52, I forgot of which there is a scene where XZ has flashbacks of their conversation/confession on the top of the gate at Shangyang…. I think she is hoping Asule will cross mountains and seas to come back to look for her.

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Despite concerns regarding the direction of the drama, I must mention just how much I love the instrumental soundtrack composed by the incredible 谭旋 Tan Xuan, whose other works include the soundtracks for 宸汐缘 Love and Destiny, 三生三世十里桃花 3L3W:Ten Miles of Peach Blossoms, 楚乔传 Legend of Chu Qiao. Every motif beautifully captures the scene it accompanies, enhancing it even more - the aching strands that accompany each star-crossed lovers never fails to break my heart; the unmistakable theme that accompanies YR is reminiscent of the mysterious Winged Tribe, even in the early episodes; the opening theme that is both ominous and stirring; the rousing battle theme that accentuates the desperation and valour of the men who fought. Really hope that the complete instrumental soundtrack will be released some time.

 

@firipy I believe the preview in Ep52 shows both LGC and XZ reminiscing about their time together, missing one another. It is interesting that here, his confession to his older brother about loving someone from the Eastern Lands refers to XZ, while originally referring to YR in the book. Since Suma's arc is starkly different from the book, it is highly possible that she has ulterior motives for returning, and very much related to Chenyue. If so, this is a totally different Suma from the book, who loves Asule alone, and would do anything to protect him - this trait appears to be transferred to XZ in the drama. We'll see.

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Episodes 49 & 50 have no sweet moments between my two fav actors, Asule and XZ. *Sob* sob*. Somehow, I wonder why the writer, Mr Jiang Nan is so bitter? Dumped by many girls during his youth????? Why wrote such pitiful story for Asule. Yuran, whom he loves and married but the marriage was not consumated and YR loves his bff. Suma whom he used to adore and even told his dad (during his younger days) that he wanted to marry her but ended up as his elder sister in law. Tsk. Tsk. Tsk. If Jiang Nan wrote "XZ to marry another guy", then I will blacklist this author. I am ok with an open ending, like XZ got pregnant AGAIN with Asule's child but gender not revealed. Just a small wish.

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2 hours ago, Angeline Ong said:

Episodes 49 & 50 have no sweet moments between my two fav actors, Asule and XZ. *Sob* sob*. Somehow, I wonder why the writer, Mr Jiang Nan is so bitter? Dumped by many girls during his youth????? Why wrote such pitiful story for Asule. Yuran, whom he loves and married but the marriage was not consumated and YR loves his bff. Suma whom he used to adore and even told his dad (during his younger days) that he wanted to marry her but ended up as his elder sister in law. Tsk. Tsk. Tsk. If Jiang Nan wrote "XZ to marry another guy", then I will blacklist this author. I am ok with an open ending, like XZ got pregnant AGAIN with Asule's child but gender not revealed. Just a small wish.

 Angeline, u are super funny! Prolly the writer doesn't want this show to be typical romantic epic Chinese drama. In that turbulent time, there is no happy ending, the world is coming to an end, everyone is only interested in power......Mankind just grows negatively in numbers.....very sadistic.... 

 

The part where the BLJH was killed by general Tubo n later Tubo will enjoying his shortlived power was killed by blind BL...its eliminating unnecessary ppl for the sake of quickly ending the show.....Its like playing some online games, ok dead...out.....dead...out, NEXT!

 

Whole show..... nothing happy at all except the few epi in the village, rest of the plots are all sad...….like the wedding between YR n Asule, its to save JY. When JY finally escape fr slavery, he found out abt the wedding, got upset and went on to offer services to YWY, have to face Asule and battle it out, broke the friendship......when we tot at least someone wld end up being happy, plot twisted n go downhill again!

 

I would smile even there is any chance the show ending with Asule and XZ meeting and smile when they did, dun even need for them to hug I would feel happy enuff!

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I think one of the reasons why this drama is loosing  steam is because of the very slow subbing.Some of the dramas were sub so fast that watchers are able to follow the drama.Without the sub and not able to know what’s going on in the drama, you end us loosing interest  and motivation .Until now I wanted to know what’s happened when A died especially YR  thoughts .

I still think that YR and A has better chemistry than A and the princess. Although at this point, I could ship A and the princess. I  still like this drama because of A.It looks like for 2019, all I’ve watched were dramas with sad ending starting with Goodbye my princess.I could highly recommend Goodbye if you don’t mind sad ending.

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When Asule finally give the feeling of him being grown & developed into a Hero...….He falls into the trap and becoming a small boy again.....No hope of having the 2 of them meeting anymore, argh!!! 

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8 hours ago, eim1 said:

I think one of the reasons why this drama is loosing  steam is because of the very slow subbing.Some of the dramas were sub so fast that watchers are able to follow the drama.Without the sub and not able to know what’s going on in the drama, you end us loosing interest  and motivation .Until now I wanted to know what’s happened when A died especially YR  thoughts .

I still think that YR and A has better chemistry than A and the princess. Although at this point, I could ship A and the princess. I  still like this drama because of A.It looks like for 2019, all I’ve watched were dramas with sad ending starting with Goodbye my princess.I could highly recommend Goodbye if you don’t mind sad ending.

I started with Goodbye my Princess this year, went to watch Fu Yao and that show by Zhao Liying and her husband. Cried buckets when I watch Goodbye my princess, sad ending but at least the main leads spent lots of time together in between, its jus so lack of communication, if they had been honest in 1st plc, prolly such things wont happen. The BLNJ is Xiaofeng's master (goodbye princess). His acting is really gd I must say. Almost forgot they are the same actor till I saw the actor's  name

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5 hours ago, firipy said:

When Asule finally give the feeling of him being grown & developed into a Hero...….He falls into the trap and becoming a small boy again.....No hope of having the 2 of them meeting anymore, argh!!! 

I will keep hoping based on the Asule's promise to XZ, "will cross mountains and seas to meet her".

But and again, the fact that Jiang Nan has a bitter soul, I will keep my hope low. Btw, what is the meaning of Asule's new title. Sorry, my Chinese is self learned, so many big words I cannot really comprehend. Tq

 

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QUESTION: Did XZ became the ruler of Ďayin? 

 

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1 hour ago, jeenee said:
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QUESTION: Did XZ became the ruler of Ďayin? 

 

I guess we need to watch for answers. In the preview, Iooks like yes. But previews are sometimes misleading.

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1 hour ago, jeenee said:
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QUESTION: Did XZ became the ruler of Ďayin? 

 

I tink Yes.

2 hours ago, Angeline Ong said:

I will keep hoping based on the Asule's promise to XZ, "will cross mountains and seas to meet her".

But and again, the fact that Jiang Nan has a bitter soul, I will keep my hope low. Btw, what is the meaning of Asule's new title. Sorry, my Chinese is self learned, so many big words I cannot really comprehend. Tq

 

I have no idea, prolly like some duke or king's brother. no longer hier to the throne

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Amusing BTS of the dramatic rescue scene during LGC's execution :D 

 

 

 

Quick transcript:

Director: 3, 2,1 Start!

(Wedding march plays)
[Sorry, wrong BGM]

 

[JY hacking away at the lock until it suddenly starts wobbling]

Director: It's chopped. You've finished chopping it

 

[The set is shaky]
[See them laughing so happily at the execution ground]

(LHR putting his head back in the guillotine)

[Obediently going to the guillotine]

 

LHR: I've to wash my clothes. I tell you, I needn't have worn any clothes
[What did you say?!!]
CRX: What are you shouting about?
LHR: I have filmed an entire day like this
CRX: That's funny
[Be patient. The wheels of fortune are ever turning]
LHR: Hurry up and help me take a picture. Bring my phone
[Playing with the phone even at the execution ground.jpg]
[Shallow you within 3 days]

 

[Expressing his inner happiness after filming]
LHR: (dancing in glee) Come come come Ji Ye! You still have to go to A team [for more filming]
[Our friendship is over]

 

[The fastest way to save Asule] -- removing the guillotine block

[Filming]
 

LGC: Alright. Let us die together

 

[Melodramatic love song BGM:
# We are hugging back to back
# Abusing silence to roar
# This love has no chance to age
# Buried in the bonfire of a joke]

 

CHY: Both of you really seem like you are getting married (laughs)
        I'm sorry for disturbing you!

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Any updates from anyone been watching? lol. I feel like i just come to this thread to get my updates. Am busy with life and putting off watching until subs are nearly done. 

 

I'm a little bummed I haven't read any good news between Asule and XZ. 

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@liddithank you for translating the bts. Really appreciate your effort. Please. Please. Please. Can you help to interpret /translate one little section of 'Bts Asule is bored'? The part after Asule whistled and XZ finished drinking. Asule said something. But I cannot understand this section. Then XZ replied "I have only heard this". The section around 0:53 seconds. Thank you in advance for my "overly-thick skin request". Please. Please.  

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@Angeline Ong I presume you are referring to this video?

 

 

Quick transcript:

"Today Persimmon is mischievous"

(Note: the words 柿子 persimmon has the same pronunciation as 世子 Crown Prince, and LGC is often cheekily referred to as 柿子 in the BTS, rather than 世子)

 

(LHR's eyes following the direction of his forefinger)
[Persimmon is training the martial powers of eye expression]

[The correct way to begin is actually...]

(voiceover) 1... 2....3....4....5...

[Seriously.concentrating]

(voiceover) Secondly, please press the eyeballs (?). 1...2....3....4..

[To care for eyesight, do as I do]
 

...
[Who is whistling]
[It's him It's him It IS him]
[Guess what tune this is]
[You must have guessed]
LHR: (whispers) We Are Different     (the song he was whistling is "We Are Different" by 大壮 Da Zhuang)
         I only know this line
CHY: (laughs) I only know this line too! I've only heard this line

 

...
(LHR dancing down the steps of the prison in Shangyang Pass)
[Persimmon who is at the shooting scene is especially mischievous]

 

---
(At the bed)
LHR: What did I do? I beat Lei Bicheng senseless!
[The truth behind the hyper excitement]
hahahahahaha
[The director's sense of humour being tickled endlessly]

CHY: Devilish!

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On 8/20/2019 at 1:02 AM, liddi said:

The first sign - the fall of the eagle king
The 2nd sign - the rebirth of the phoenix through fire
The 3rd sign - the mighty lion falls and breaks its claws on the rocks
The 4th sign - the wolf packs devour each other, the dragon dies on a desolate beach

 

LBC is exposed more as cunning, manipulative strategist rather than prophet when the 3rd and 4th signs do not appear to come to pass through the unfolding of the events in Eps 37-44. Though the brutal battle at Shangyang Pass sees YWY flushed out of the fort by BY's use of poisonous fumes, losing his commander and tens of thousands of men as they breached the ambush, YWY did not fall at Shangyang Pass after all, but escaped by the skin of his teeth as a result of XY unexpectedly letting them go. In addition, while the Five Armies distrusted one another and fought over who would have custody of XZ, ultimately trapped at Shangyang Pass with no route of escape back to the capital thanks to Duke Baili's 20,000 strong army, all of them united against the external threat of Chiya, and enjoyed newfound respect and camaraderie as only those who faced death together and survived could. As for the death of the dragon, it is still unclear to me of whom it referred. If LBC was foretelling his own death, then he should have known his plot to draw LGC into the Chenyue fold would fail. Unless he meant LGC's death, but why plot LGC's death and resurrection yet again when his whole purpose is to see the younger man as a part of Chenyue? Whatever it is, the solitary crow that flew away with the fall of the Chiya army is an ominous portent that we have not seen the last of this mysterious man.

 

The Grand Princess now finds to her dismay that though she is ostentatiously the regent of the Eastern Lands, her authority and court is now under Duke Baili's control, and perhaps even her once-strategist and lover Baili Ningqing too has switched sides. While not yet certain, her determination to see the Five Armies destroyed with flagrant disregard for his life when he too was held by BY at Shangyang Pass may have triggered his shift in loyalty to the Duke Baili, and it is his suggestion to XZ that now sees her willingly becoming a hostage at Lower Tang in place of LGC. BLNQ is an enigma who clearly knows a lot more than he lets on. I question why he revealed the secret of XZ's birth to her. Was it as repayment for her words that brought him to his senses as far as what he is really worth to the Grand Princess for whom he has plotted and strategised all these years? Is his promise to protect XZ while she is in Lower Tang a sincere one, or yet another sibilant coercion to ensure she complies with his plan? We shall see.

 

While on the topic of XZ's parentage, it does give rise to some interesting questions. Though not explicitly mentioned, I believe BY left Tianqu for the service of Chuwei, due to his love for the Duchess of Chuwei. I now wonder if XZ's mysterious father is not BY after all. If indeed so, then she has no claim to the throne at all since she is not of the royal family, which nullifies the previous emperor's will to have her as his successor. Assuming this is true, how does this knowledge benefit BLNQ? It would seem that not even the Grand Princess is privy to this detail, so I have to wonder what BLNQ hopes to gain by holding XZ hostage, and how this would make any difference to the ever-changing political landscape.

 

We finally understand YTZ's true motivations - the loss of his right wing when he, inspired by Tianqu ideals, tried to persuade a tyrant king to change; then being framed for his murder over the last 15 years. Now we see why he would protect Tianqu at all costs from the path of destruction he believed LGC's rigid stance would cost them - his obsession to reclaim Qingzhou through the might of Tianqu and clear his name, meant that he could not afford for them to be destroyed before his plans are set in motion. His subsequent interest in Yuran stems from his belief that she is the next Goddess of War with the ability to awaken the Snow Crane warriors, and whom he initially hoped would be instrumental in helping him restore his name. It is then ironic that after all the trickery he employed to bring Yuran to Qingzhou, his crustiness would be melted by her, and he would repeatedly regret his decision to drag her back to their homeland. Their mutual affection for each other is moving to see as he slowly warms to her, while she in turn would throw herself between the abuse hurled at him, and refuse to let him lose his will to live after the cruel hacking of his remaining wing by the present king. We finally get a glimpse of the upright warrior he once was before bitterness twisted him and his choices, and hopefully we see his path to redemption again before he dies, now that he has sworn to protect Yuran. With the present king making an undisclosed offer to GYY, and her scoffing at the idea of Yuran being the next Goddess of War, would Yuran too lose her closest kin to the allure of power, and would YTZ be the one who would protect her to the death from GYY after all?

 

From what I read, the drama has deviated markedly from the source material. In the original, Yuran was caught between JY and LGC and ultimately chose someone else, even though author Jiang Nan confirmed that the one she loved was JY. The drama has made it clear from the start that in Yuran's eyes, there is only JY. As such, I am glad that even after he is lucid, LGC affirms and affirms again his love for XZ. I wish we knew when he started to love her - another poorly addressed part of the narrative - but for me, it is enough to know that their love is mutual, and it is so good to see LGC smile with true happiness for the first time in such a long time. Since the drama has deviated so much from the book anyway, dare I hope that we will see these 4 young people find happiness at the end of the turbulent times that they are caught in? 

 

I am concerned to see so much still left unaddressed with only 12 more episodes to go - the battle for supremacy in LGC's own homeland among his brothers, the mystery of his incarcerated grandfather, the resolution of Duke Baili's ever-increasing control, holding XZ as his pawn which in turn would ensure LGC comes back into the web he has laid out. There is also the still potential threat from Chenyue, assuming LBC escaped in a form of a crow after all, so there should be a final showdown between the two age-old bitter foes Tianqu and Chenyue. Pacing and cohesion remain valid issues as is inconsistency in character behaviour, which in turn makes me wonder if this would have been better addressed if we have had the originally intended 68 episodes. Ludicrous scenes are rife, like the ease with which JY gets caught every single time, despite the fact that he is such a seasoned warrior; how quickly conflicts and concerns between various parties are resolved, which feels highly unrealistic. LGC's reactions to blood during his amnesia state seem to vary - from immediate rampage, to being terrified, to almost but not quite killing YTZ, to not even blinking an eye when the transformed General Fei's blood flowed on the ground after being killed. And let's not get started on how quickly he heals after the brutal battle with LBC and the Chiya, to be able to ride off to Qingyang so soon after sustaining massive injuries.

 

Regardless of my gripes, I truly hope that the last 12 episodes will see an improvement in these areas, giving us a satisfactory journey to the end. And that we will get a happy ending for all the characters we have come to care about after all...

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I think LGC must have not realized that he is falling for her but it was gradual -- remember the scene she was organizing the books and he said let me help you and he came to tell her how he feels about what the King said... and when the King came to visit him and he was looking for her.  And he went to accompany her on her trip.  (I think they also have couple scenes there that were deleted.)  And the night before he was killed when they were talking.  I think the realization was when Xiao Zhou confessed to him that she now has another person to look after as well, which is him.  And when she said you must also look down on me if you only knew the bad things I had done.  And he quickly said no I won't, and close his eyes to mean he won't.  I think these are already signs.  So when XZ asked for a name for the doll - he can only recall Bai Zhou Yue.  It's because it's coming from the heart.  To me the actual time of realization is on the night before he supposedly died.  So when he recalled, that was the last thing he remembered about XZ - her confession.

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@liddithank you for the full translation. Really appreciate your hard work and time.

These young actors really did a marvelous job to bring out the soul and spirit of the characters. I really salute their professionalism.

On a different note, sitting and facing each other won't these two beautiful souls' hearts flutter? I recalled one BTS (when they shoot the visitation of orphans), even these 'orphans' were 'be-witched' by XZ's beauty and fair complexion. In the BTS, the little girl similarized XZ translucent, flawless complexion to a mirror.

In another BTS, the Yuran playfully asked XZ "do you have a bf?". XZ said no.

Hence, my absolute salute to Liu Haoran for his mighty effort to hold his heart still and focus on the job to bring out this good work for us.

 

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that chess game in novoland, really exist in the real world?

also the small flute that asule play

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12 hours ago, Angeline Ong said:

@liddithank you for the full translation. Really appreciate your hard work and time.

These young actors really did a marvelous job to bring out the soul and spirit of the characters. I really salute their professionalism.

On a different note, sitting and facing each other won't these two beautiful souls' hearts flutter? I recalled one BTS (when they shoot the visitation of orphans), even these 'orphans' were 'be-witched' by XZ's beauty and fair complexion. In the BTS, the little girl similarized XZ translucent, flawless complexion to a mirror.

In another BTS, the Yuran playfully asked XZ "do you have a bf?". XZ said no.

Hence, my absolute salute to Liu Haoran for his mighty effort to hold his heart still and focus on the job to bring out this good work for us.

 

I think I would be delighted if they end up dating.  Although in real life Chen Hao Yu is 5-6 years older than Liu Hao Ran so maybe to him that is Jie Jie (older sister).  :) And also, they both share the same character in their names = Hao.  And the last Yu + Ran = Yuran.  Hahaha. (although not the same characters as that of Yuran in the drama but just sounded the same.)

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