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[Drama 2016] Moon Lovers ❤ Scarlet Heart Ryeo, 달의 연인-보보경심 려 \^0^/ Soompi Kdrama 2016 Winner

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I started the streaming already but it's buffering too much. My connection today is not as good as last week. At that time it's not buffering before Moon Lovers, but then started buffering when ML started. I'm not sure I'm going to watch live. I will just count on the live-cappers in this forum, and watch the eng sub tomorrow.

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52 minutes ago, ChyuuNyuu said:

 

Why is everyone so swooned by the 4th prince?? To me it sounds like he will stalk HAE SOO until she fall in love with him, without respecting or caring about what she went through. She just got heart wrecked by WOOK! Give her a break: "Wang So keeps telling her that she can try to run away but he will follow her" HOW CREEPY IS THAT? It would be nicer if he would be like: "Hey, I know you've had a hard time but I'm there for you if you need a friend to rely on." But his vibe is more like: "Hey, I love you and I will stalk you until you love me back (Plus kill every other man you love that is not me)." And what do you mean with: "He will keep confronting her with reality, until she can face it". What reality? That he loves her and she can do nothing else than accept it? This is not right.  
And I agree that WOOK did some shitty and weak decisions but he had no choice by choosing his family over SOO (Would HAE SOO be with somebody who killed his family for her? NO.) SO on the other hand had not as much too loose.... I don't want to downgrade this bravery trying to save HAE SOO but still, his dominance towards her and his cruelty towards others is not normal....

Sorry @bebebisou33 =D please don't take it personally.

 

Well, it will depend on how you define 'normal' in Goryeo. We can't really apply our modern 'normal' on everyone's action in this drama. Everyone seems to be slightly twisted. The palace residents seem to have the tendency to end others' life if they do not serve to their purposes. So kills, Yo kills, Wook kills, The queen and the king do too. It's survival of the fittest. That's why it's such big deal for Hae Soo when she had those visions of So killing his brothers. It's probably never in her values system to have family members literally kill each other for a mere reason, the throne.

Imposing our moral or modern values while watching this would be tiresome. Oddly, I'm drawn to this drama for its consistency to portray characters that fit both the time and context. No matter how uncomfortable the viewers might feel, those characters and their actions are necessary and relevant.

We're enchanted by Wang So for zillion of reasons. I'm for one, swooned by his resilient and strong character. He's a man who fights for what he desires. Perserverance is sexy.

Anyhow, I guess it's my two cents :)

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I have a strong feeling that at least in this ep, we are all going to be frustrated with HS and her choices. I dont see why she constantly pushes So away, but perhaps maybe is because she still has this fantasy of Wook.

And maybe that vision of So being a merciless killer still lingers in her mind.

anyways soon ep 12 will be upon us in about 10 mins!

I cant watch the streaming but i look forward to reading the recaps!

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8 minutes ago, liddi said:

This is probably going to be an unpopular opinion... but anyway...

This drama. I love it... and it has hit the pinnacle (so far) in terms of emotional intensity and narrative flow. However, I cannot help but see the flaws as well, and it is now that I involuntarily start comparing it to BBJX. Wook's betrayal in the rain scene delivers an irrevocable death blow to any illusions viewers might have had in terms of who is better for Soo... yet I feel that we were very much manipulated into jumping ship, so to speak. What I loved about the original is that you will continue to see strong ships for both 4th, 8th and even 14th... exactly because there is no one person who was made to be so obviously unworthy, so that the other may shine even more. Each person loved her, and continued to love her in their own way... and ultimately it was Ruoxi's decisions that decided her path... not the other way round. Here, Soo has little to no control over her life or relationships, sought for or not... and she had to be rejected by Wook in what can only be the most callous way imaginable, so as to make way for her love for So down the road. I am truly moved by So's sacrifices time and again for Soo with no regard to his own safety, but I cannot help but feel strong-armed into doing so through clear machinations, which is beginning to annoy me, because I would have just as easily loved them together without the added necessity of painting his rival in a less than flattering light. Meanwhile, what I am really missing is the brotherhood between 4th and 13th that remained undiluted until their deaths. We see Baek Ah as an ally of both So and Soo (he's the first SoSoo shipper, I'm sure of it!)... but there is nothing that reinforces the strength of his relationship with So nor justify his camaraderie with Soo, the latter of which is merely relegated to a few seconds of flashbacks. When all is said and done, the source material is more than just a love story - it is also a moving depiction of brotherhood, the pursuit of power and domination, the subtle yet lethal political chess play, choices made for good or bad, and consequences borne. So far, I am just seeing the love story being slowly fleshed out, and little else. With only 9 episodes to go and so much ground to cover in terms of the rapidly changing political landscape, Gwangjong's ascent to the throne and what comes after, I cannot help but be anxious that the pacing will be rushed rather than measured. Please don't let it be so.

With the footing we are at now, I truly hope that the next half of the drama alleviates the contrivances and gives us a strong finish. I do not expect nor hope for a happy ending... it may be masochistic on my part, but I think it would not quite be BBJX if it were. All I ask for, is an ending that is bittersweet and heart-searingly memorable, just as BBJX did for me.

On the other hand... can I just gush how much I love the BTSes of MLSHR? Just as the drama itself breaks our hearts, the BTSes are a perfect fodder to all that pain, and never fails to put a goofy smile on my face. The camaraderie is so heartwarming, and it is truly wonderful to see just how much fun they had during the filming, how well they got along, which in turn makes me sad that their hard work is not appreciated as much domestically. Here's hoping their ratings show marked improvement in the 2nd half of the drama... just as it is so well loved internationally.

Last but certainly not least, here's hoping the two versions will continue to be in sync from here on. Please.

 

I think the production is rather typical of Korean dramas. Koreans have the "palli palli" culture, they will not wait for the story to build itself slowly and subtle so that it is rich with meaning at the end, that is why there is the usual  trope of the male or female lead injuring themselves to fast forward the intensity of the romance etc. In a way, i think MLSHR is already trying to rise above this kind of production and storytelling culture as much as it can. plus korean prime time is very expensive so its impossible for them to dwell too much on details. Which is why i always thought this drama would have been better suited for the weekend drama spot (that usually has 30 -40 episodes.)

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6 minutes ago, fengari said:

@junejungki  I watch it from internet- as far as I know  kdramas were never hosted in german tv channels. The same stands  for Greece, my origin country. However, in both countries, since years, there is a devoted public for kdramas, accessing the kdramas via internet. ( Personally, I am rather a newcomer in the kdramaland ( i embarked this strange, magnificent planet with its own rules in story telling not more than a year ago) - but I am totally hooked: a heavy symptom is that I cannot watch nothing else than kdramas, or korean movies. The funny thing is that I do not speak or understand the korean language, however  right now every film in another language  annoys me. Heavy case of addiction : )

Well, at least we have internet. I am very grateful for that. We can watch latest drama within 24 hours. I have the problem with you. I got addicted to Kdrama movies etc,  I cant lt it go. sigh!!!

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56 minutes ago, MadraRua said:

 

 

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3 hours ago, itzibitzispider said:

 

1. On a Monday Birthday... poor lad

2. On a Moonday Birthday ... how dare he

Let him celebrate alone *cheekygrin* or while watching with you

Gosh I'm brilliant

 

LOL, we had a dinner celebration.

& my husband said, "I know you want to watch your show, let's go home."

best husband! HAHHAHA. 

I AM IN FRONT OF THE TV!!!! 8minutes to go. 

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1 minute ago, onemella said:

 

LOL, we had a dinner celebration.

& my husband said, "I know you want to watch your show, let's go home."

best husband! HAHHAHA. 

I AM IN FRONT OF THE TV!!!! 8minutes to go. 

 

Happy birthday to the coolest hubby! He's a keeper :D

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24 minutes ago, ChyuuNyuu said:

 

Why is everyone so swooned by the 4th prince?? To me it sounds like he will stalk HAE SOO until she fall in love with him, without respecting or caring about what she went through. She just got heart wrecked by WOOK! Give her a break: "Wang So keeps telling her that she can try to run away but he will follow her" HOW CREEPY IS THAT? It would be nicer if he would be like: "Hey, I know you've had a hard time but I'm there for you if you need a friend to rely on." But his vibe is more like: "Hey, I love you and I will stalk you until you love me back (Plus kill every other man you love that is not me)." And what do you mean with: "He will keep confronting her with reality, until she can face it". What reality? That he loves her and she can do nothing else than accept it? This is not right.  
And I agree that WOOK did some shitty and weak decisions but he had no choice by choosing his family over SOO (Would HAE SOO be with somebody who killed his family for her? NO.) SO on the other hand had not as much too loose.... I don't want to downgrade this bravery trying to save HAE SOO but still, his dominance towards her and his cruelty towards others is not normal....

Sorry @bebebisou33 =D please don't take it personally.

lol ! I know , you are right and when LJK was talking about his character as WS he mentioned that he was possessive and obsessed with HS. It is not a healthy relationship that these two will be in . It will start off nice and end up bad, if he continues to be very obsessed with her . However I do not agree with you that he is stalking her and not respecting nor caring about what she went through. He is trying his best to comfort her, help her cheer up by showing off his affection to her, and proposing to her to save her from a hard labor. This is how WS is trying to care for the person, he loves. He didn't give up on her because he thinks love and friendship are the same and because he sees that HS can not hide her fluttering, when he pulls her towards him. It is totally understandable , when you know WS's background. The man lived away from his family. He was never loved and cared for by anyone. How can he lead a healthy relationship and be flawless, when he was raised in such a loveless environment? He said it himself when he talked to Baek-Ah , that he doesn't know how to deal with people. So, he knows it when HS didn't like to be kissed by force by him but at that moment when she was telling him to leave the palace he didn't know how to react. When he said that he could kill any man, she might be in love with and she has nowhere to escape from him he is showing how he is just not accepting the idea that she could be with someone else other than him. I agree with you, I will be so freaking out when I hear that some man , that I am not in love with , talking to me like that. I will hate him for that. But here in this drama, I can sympathize with his character and cheer for him and HS so that HS , the modern woman, who knows about psychology and stuff like that, could understand him and fix up his behavior and teach him about how to love a person, and letting them be free and not obsess about them. He is surely is not some kind of ideal and perfect man. He has his flaws. However he has other qualities that make him very attractive and hard to resist. I personally will wish to meet a man of action and not empty words. He is the kind of man you can rely on and you are sure he can handle any situation and makes sure that you are fine.  Who wouldn't like to meet someone like this? I am cheering for him ans HS because of all the things he went through just because he loves HS whole heartedly. But knowing that this drama might not have a good ending for exactly this reason, the obsession of WS over HS, I might say that WS will learn it the hard way, that love means giving the other person their space and freedom or you will lose them forever. 

Anyway, 5 minutes to go. I am so ready for the new episode. Live recap-ers FIGHTING :)

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@bebebisous33 I don't quite agree in that sense. Soo continued to hold out hope for Wook to save her during those crucial moments when her life was at stake, but it took his action of turning his back on her at the point when she needed him most, to turn the dynamics of their relationship. She did not choose - he chose for her in that instant. In many ways, Soo is seen to be reactionary so far. Ruoxi knew what she was asking of 8th Prince when she gave him the ultimatum, and he did not choose the throne over her, but rather he could not see why he can't have both. With his decision, she then chose to break off their relationship, because she knew what his fate would be with that choice. It was likewise with her relationship with 4th Prince... and ultimately she chose to leave him and the Forbidden City.

@chickenchopflipflop My fears are very real with the very little time we have left to cover all that remains. I love what we have seen so far - it is breathtaking visually, and the narrative flow has gone from strength to strength. Hence I am really unwilling to see it falter in the next half, due to lack of time. I am trying to remind myself that being a pre-produced drama, the narrative pace should have been well thought out, so I am hoping all my fears to be unfounded. Prove my fears wrong, MLSHR! You can do it!

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@MadraRua Thank you for the roll call :D 

I am so ready for today's episode, re-watched last weeks episode's last night, bring on the King's death and HS breaking up with WW (I'm more than ready for these two scenes). 
Hoping our streams don't lag too much today and I'm still a few pages behind :sweatingbullets: 
I'd just like to say I really love reading everyones theories and insights about this drama, I'm actually amazed at everyones analysis and hope to share mine every soon too. ^_^  
I think I need some serious help, I have officially become to invested in this drama. I don't know what this drama has done to me, I'm thinking about Moon Lovers 24/7, and I've never really followed a thread so diligently. I can't imagine what I will do after this drama ends. :tears:

Hope you all enjoy today's episode. :wub:

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If I were Hae Soo, I would say "Call!" when Wang So proposed,

First, just out of curiosity of what will happen with the history when it is changed. Instead of Wang So, Wang Wook might take the throne, then would Wang Wook's GwangJong be any different than Wang So's GwangJong? And how it will affect the future, if I ever go back to.

Second, because I hate doing laundry. I would marry Wang So if he promised me he will help with the household cores. He wouldn't act like a spoiled prince, would he? LOL. :lol:

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8 minutes ago, rumasa79 said:

 

We're enchanted by Wang So for zillion of reasons. I'm for one, swooned by his resilient and strong character. He's a man who fights for what he desires. Perserverance is sexy.

Anyhow, I guess it's my two cents :)

Sorry for cutting your post . I agree with you . One of the reasons I like WS as a character is that there is nothing more attractive to me than a man who sticks to his convictions and success at it . It helps that LJG is there with all his sexy glory too ;) 

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Finally done reading... Right now so nervous because of today episode. After watching long preview i hace to say: muy dislike for Wook got bigger, muy pride for So bigger (figthing!!!) AMD HS I justo can't understand her.. How can i survive the almost 11 hours until i could watch episode 12. I need some vacation

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Weird . The Exo Chicken and Domino Pizza is no longer around. And new ads are added. :D. It's a good sign ^^ 

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