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Wow! I been silently reading the past 1 day.

I should be happy that I skipped today non sub epi. But yet I don't understand the bashing of Soo.

First of all, director mentioned this drama is even sadder than c ver. So the twist and turn will confirm be around.

For Soo, her happiest moment is when she stayed at Wook's mansion. Her way of saying she miss him can be her way of saying she miss the past. I feel the ship already sinking plus LJK mentioned he will be involved with triangle love with Soo and Wook thus this is the season of triangle love.

I am a bit concerned to see so many people only focus on how many episodes left and why the female main lead has not fall in love. Glad to know I am not the only one who think she already falls in love but in denial and rejection because of everything that falls apart around her. Her heart needs time to heal and the highlight is coming because the king revealed his plan together with JM.

I am glad I am right that the King never abandoned So. Instead, the king plans a way for him. I feel this episode might stab my heart because of how many time So was being rejected (IU mentioned Soo will give So lemonade time through rejection) but nonetheless, she might need to learn to come in term of her place in this era. Shocked and learned to survive. IU mentioned about ruthless Soo. I can see Soo turning ruthless in this game of throne. We just need to stay till the end. Some love can be short and intense. While some fake love can be long and deluded. I can see Wook-Soo ship already sinking deep.

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41 minutes ago, lyserose said:

Hi everyone. I am new here. Been lurking here for a while but never had the courage to sign up and post a comment until now. Been a die-hard fan of this drama and smitten with our main lead, Lee Joon Gi since Scholar Who Walks The Night. I really do enjoy reading so many postings here and hope to share some opinion with you guys in the future.

 

Welcome!

Come love Mondays and Tuesdays unconditionally with us and hate every other day of the week。☺

 

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1 hour ago, Nymeria289 said:

This drama will forever remain in my richard simmons-list. With 8 more episodes left, I've run out of excuses for this. Time to focus on something else. To everybody still watching, good luck. This was a fun forum with so many people with their interesting views. :)

Bye bye!

 

I can  feel you :angry:

but honestly , there not always a (or many) moments when we wanna shake the female lead? . HS really stressed me sometimes, but I think we should wait a bit, she just broke up (she has been left) and the heart doesn't change from one moment to another.
I'll wait for the next episodes and if HS doesn't change the will hang her withbmybown hands ( I know that I can't) .. 
Well, I think it's part of the process and the start of the special relationship between HS and WS

I don't want that HS accept WS's heart while she still loves WW

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26 minutes ago, violet90 said:

HS and WS is the same in a way when he first came to palace he the one who broken and hate everyone and now HS time to be broken and pushing everyone... just like at first HS slowly heal him i think WS will slowly heal her too... 

trust the story and let it flow....

Sorry for cutting your post. You are right, it'll be WS time to do what HS did for him when he first came to the palace. I just hope HS will gradually stop speaking so harshly to WS :tears:

27 minutes ago, qwenli said:

Scarlet heart feels like cheese in the trap to me all over again.

Oh god! I will really need therapy if they pull a cheese in the trap stunt here :( 

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4 minutes ago, rcalma said:

after watching ep12 i kinda feel that this drama really depicts from the Goryeo History.... thinking that for the next episode we won't be able to see more of sweet moments from our OTP's,  they really focus about the fight for the throne... well that's how history goes... i've been a Sageuk Fan so this kind of scenario is nothing to be surprise...

we just have to be prepared for the bloody fight and those people who will be sacrifice in the future....

huhuhu i'm starting to cry a river

That was why I wrote that the wook-haesoo should have been just written off at the lates of ep 10 therefore they still had 10 episodes left to develop the battle for the throne, the OTP story, and the other OTPs story. We have 3 couples in total. Because of that damn wook-haesoo plot, the other couple could not get enough screentime. According to me, their stories are much more entertaining than wook-haesoo story ckck. Once again, so sorry, no offense to anyone who opposes my point of view about this drama, especially this episode.

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When the raw is out..during the goodbye scene...after WS stole her a kiss..and waving goodbye to her...can you guys check if my eyes were correct that i see a teeny weeny bit of smile on her lips.. or maybe it is during laundry hanging scene?? Arrrgghhh...i need to rewatch the ep like NOW!!

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Episode 12 is actually the most awaited episode of all....since IU stated by herself that viewers will have fun with it...however it turns out to be the vice versa.

1. We don't see any crucial development in WS-HS relationship nor the ending for WW-HS. 

Here I don't blame HS characters here, but more to the writer nim's choice to NOT letting HS growing some feeling for WS after his dying sacrifice.....that causing frustration among eclipses because this is not normal...if I may say this is just too much....this is EPISODE 12 already people!!!! ,,,,How long do we have to wait? because in any other dramas the two main persons has already fallen in love before 10th epi...

I understand that the hero and heroin must face hard life, sacrificing personal feeling.....I don't mind with it...as long as they have confirm WHO is with WHO....

To be honest, I've waited for this drama since january-february because their promise the love story between a modern girl and the 4th prince,,,,So, I put a lot of hope in this drama.....I invest my feeling, my time, my attention towards this drama....conclusion I watch this drama because of WS-HS....

2. The producer has already had LICENCE to do creative to the history whenever it is necessary,  Why don't they use it?

3. Everyone want a happy ending....that would be fair.....

Watching sad ending dramas will cause you headache, feel sorry....frustration

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18 minutes ago, freckledbelle said:

 

I dont like YH. So much. From the start. I rejoiced when WS rejected her marriage proposal. And i hope it will remain like that. But then again i can only hope. 

I don't like her either. But if... IF she truly loves Wang So, every time Wang So will talk to her, he will see himself in the mirror, because her feelings for him will be exactly his feelings for Hae Soo. And then it seems like Yeaon Hwa already has a soft spot for him. We've seen this in one of the previous episodes when she treated his wound on the arm. (In spite of what she have told to Yo about the fact that she would like to tame a wild beast).

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5 minutes ago, solelylurking said:

Well this is a confusing episode but I'm used to be confused when it comes about Hae Soo. So where shall we begin? The heroine? The hero? Or the big bad wolf who begin to crawled his path to the dark world? Let's just blend them together this time. I promise, I'll save the best for last. 

The episode begin with Wang So stubborness to save HS in front of his father. He defied once again to save the damsel in distress. If only HS would see what WS had done for her. He risked his neck time and again. The king sent WS away to the far land and sent HS away to a place where it is nearly (just nearly) impossible for the princes to see her. 

Before his journey, he went to see HS for the last time. HS wasn't saying anything about being kicked out of Damiwon but that uri HS. I'll keep a positive mind at that point. Maybe she didn't want him to be worry. She tries her best to shoo him away (why meeting him then, you say? Let's just say to say a proper goodbye. Whoo. Don't lose patience, me). He didn't back out, as always, to hear HS's words to not see her again. That I should be the last time they see each other. I guess he used to that by now. He stole a kiss and keep the hair pin she return as a talism. One thing to remember her by. So our pair begun their own journey, each was a struggle on their own. 

There's a scene in the middle which I don't quite get but I think it's a classic symbol of unrequited love. It was when Wook saw HS walking away but he turned his head just a moment before HS saw her, standing in the middle of the path with his head turned away. I can only imagine how HS's feeling at that time. The guy you love and promise to be forever with, turn his head yet again from you. But then as she started to walk away again, Wook's head facing her again, seeing the back of the girl he loves dearly hardly walking from her limping feet. 

Jung then come to tell Wook the news of HS when he writes her name out of longing (my fave scene becomes hollow. I literally curse). He ran to her room and saw an empty room and begin to cry and shouted her name. HS turned her back, as if she can hear his voice. Maybe she can. 

HS began her job as launder. Her feet still limped from the torture, her face was pale and tired but she did her job earnestly. Her friends try to open a conversation about the princes but she shut them down and bullied because of it. This girl sure know how to survive on her own (for those who didn't get it, I meant it sarcastically). Jung and Wook, I guess now they are a pair like WS and BA, witnessed this scene and Wook quickly turnes away, unable to see. His face was full of pain but he quickly washed that out when Jung confroted him. Jung said he knew Wook used to love her. That words kicked him hard, for a second he forget to hide his expression. Used to. Is it really the case? 

He came to see her that night. Maybe unsucced to press the urge not to. He askes how she was. She said she miss him. His face change slightly. But he went on. He honestly tell her now what he lacks, the reason why he couldn't save her and she must have hate him because of that. But she said again that she missed him and asked, 'Do you miss me too?'

You can see tears starts brimming in his eyes. 'Every day', he said. 'Every second'. He told her he can promise her anything this time, but he will do what ever he can to get her place back for her. HS told her not to conflict himself because of her. That she was ok and told him to take better care of himself first. What came from his mouth makes me ponder: "Stop it. Are you trying to make me feel more guilty?".

Guilty. That word seem to haunted him. That's why he tried extra best to be a king, even hinting of selling his sister to Yo, not only to get her back but also to pay for his mistakes to HS. He is a nasty debt collector and make YH nervous because of it (good). 

It's a year after after and our hero came back. The first thing he did was to break all his promises to his father because his father didn't keep his. For WS, again HS comes first of anything. His father said as king he must be ready to ditched anyone and he did that, banishing HS, because he care for him. WS firmly said he will never be king nor that he wants to. In his heart and mind, it was as clear as crystal that all he wanted was to be with HS. So, he came and look for her. 

HS thought she was halucinating when she saw a glimpse of WS with a masked on. But then came his sexy voice, tell her she was more pretty as a launder than as a palace maid, scolding her for disobeying him to stay at Damiwon. He backed hug her and told her he missed her. She pushed him away but he insist, looking at her dry and hard hand and feel sorry about it. Then, she asked hastily and worried, why he wore his mask again. Did he forget how to apply his make up? Is his wound got worse? He simply took off his mask and said that he wore that to remember her. After that she pushed him away again, even when he cone running to catch her. This time it's a little too harsh. I couldn't forget the look of WS's face.

At this point I almost throw my remote to my tv. Seriously. Wtf is this? Even I can write ff better than this. This isn't how you write playing a sad push and pull. Ok, fine she wasn't trying to. She is trying her best to pushed him away because she didn't want to get tangled again. She only ask about the mask because her worries got the better of her. There. I've tried not to say I had enough of HS. 

Let's move on. 

Scenes later is not very clear to me. So I write what I can remember. 

It is clear that Yo and Wook plotting something when Wook wore his armour underneath his robe and they contradicted each other to make their father come to the party. But it work. The king came despite being ill.

YH come to WS and ask him to marry him but got turned down. His words indicate that he knew YH wants a man with the greed of power and she shouldn't pick him because he is none of that. But YH, who worry sick because his dear brother threatens her, push on and said she had love him for a long time, but still got turn down. Ouch. 

The King drank HS's tea, courtesy of JM, and summon her. He told her that he already investigate her roots and cone to the conclusion she is not from this world (he ven spot on about what HS knew about WS becoming a king)and warned her, as a father because Madam Oh thinks of her as her daughter, to not run away. He said this because HS asks to be sent as far as she can from the palace because she didn't want to interfere. But the king, on contrary, said she must witness everything. 

WS waited for her that night. He asked her hand in marriage and if she still didn't like him she can ask for a divorce but got turn down (aahh.. The look of pain in his face is making my heart ache). She said he was destined to be something and ask, "What if you can be king?"

WS didn't didn't get it but asked her, "Do you want me to be king? If I become a king can I have you?" For WS, it's not the tittle that matters. Being a king without his HS is an empty chair. He only wants to live with her and took care of her. 

Waaahhh. That was something, right? 

HS still turn down his offer. When she turned back, she saw Wook. Her face changed. Wook's face was hard and dark. She managed to get away because Wook stopped WS. Wook warned WS not to make empty promises to HS because they both know a prince can't marry a launder. WS and his stubbornness said, "If I say marriage, the I'll marry her". Wook seems forget about how little did WS care about anything or anyone other than HS and BA. Wook pressed on. He blamed WS about everything that happen to HS. But WS slapped him back beautifully. He even said, "Your incompetence makes my blood boils!"

They seems to continued their fight as their grabbing each other collar. In the other place, BA git stabbed by Woo Hee when he realized she was going to kill the king. And as the screen died down, WS glance to Wook's armour beneath his robe. His mind seems to realize something. 

I'm sorry if my recap is unreadable. Believe me, I am as confuse as you are about this episode. There are many things I don't get. And HS still can make me change my mind about her (sorry guys, she haven't change yet). WS still solid as a rock about his feeling. It is really admirable. They now gave us a reason of how and why he wanted to be king. HS plants that seed in his head. She indirectly and coincidently, makes him think (I think), that she wants him to be a king. 

Wook, in the other hand, tried his best to forget or at least hide his feeling about HS and persue his ambition but failed miserably. His love is so deep, I think there is no way to get out of it. He now wears his dark face casually. Jung told Wook he was worried about Yo greediness will swallow Yo himself. But that's nothing new to Wook. In fact he will try his best to make advantages of that. 

I come to like YH for a little bit. She stood up against Queen Yo and told her not to belittled her mother next time. It makes Yo fascination of her grow bigger. He again proposed her, give her a ring and told her he will divorce his other wife once he is a king. We can tell that YH reluctant to marry Yo what ever Yo's offer is. But then Wook come to hint of collecting her debt in the most obvious way, it is hard to missed out. Well, I guess the sheep finally has sharp teeth. 

We'll see if the next episode can make up for ep 12 and answer things that still hovering. Yes. It's about HS. What will she do? Will she stay by WS side to make him king? Will she told Wook about his premonition because of her lingering feeling for him? Will she change to become a heroine I could like and root for earnestly? 

We know whom she choose between the guy who take no for an answer and a prince charming who hide his darkness underneath his skin just like he hides his armour underneath his robe. The question is: when? 

We don't have much time. There is still 3 dead kings, conflicts and wars, and the race for the throne and the girl. Will we even have time to witness a convincing deep and undying love between WS and HS when it's already ep 12 and they still gave me an urge to throw things when our OTP came to the screen. 

 

Ps: I know some of you didn't agree with how I see HS or current relationship status with both princes, but this is my perspective and opinion. I am entittled to have it. But I respect our differences and still view yours as a possibility and mine can be wrong. Thank you. 

@solelylurking thanks for your recap....and the throwing the remote control..I did..but towards sofa side...I really hope episode 13 doesnt disappointed me as much as episode 12, we seriously running out of time....I already prepared for disappointment after reading some chinese website preview...but stilll....the urge of me throwing thing at my TV is really strong...

clearly the writer wanted to show us...Soo is moving towards So..in snail speed..but getting her...shouting at So, and rejecting him make blood boil...I think a second and third tot before seeing things in the way it should be....I understand the anger of most of the people here...but I really wanted to believe what IU say, episode 12(cause of the editing, it suppose to show today) will be interesting one...hopefully tomorrow will be a better episode...I trust..IU word..for that..but really...can that snail speed become at least train speed at least...8 episodes left, and we really...dont have the time for snail to move...:cold_sweat:

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 WHY?!?!?  

That's the main thing I'm yelling at my screen over and over.

WHY is Hae Soo still mooning over Wang Wook after he so coldly turned his back on her? Even if she still loves Wook, her character wouldn't be that forgiving after he literally left her friend hanging. I mean it took the guy a year just to talk to her and all she cares about is if he missed her?!  Barf.

WHY is she yelling at So when he saved her damn life!? When he stood by her. Why does all her rage get targeted at him?  i understand that she is trying to distance herself for protection but Wook should have shared in at least a fraction of that verbal beat down.

WHY does the king have to suddenly 'find out' out about Hae Soo and order her to stay away NOW? The whole scene was so vague and unnecessary. After the trauma of Lady Oh's death HS doesn't need another reason to stay away from the princes. She already has plenty. It feels like plot obstacle overload. My heart was already heavy, now it's just sinking.

WHY did Baek Ah have to stop the sword with his body? I MEAN COME ON - he could use his guitar, or a plate, or a lantern.  You don't have to almost kill the characters off just to make something dramatic writers!

WHY focus so much on WH and BA anyways? They had so many scenes and I really couldn't care less about this love story when the main romance is such a hot mess.

WHY aren't we seeing any emotional progress in Hae Soo's feelings for So? After last week's very touching prison scene I thought she was finally opening to the idea of him but once again we see her deny any feelings or attachment to him except - "why can't I ignore you." HE JUST DRANK POISON FOR YOU GIRL! AND YOU'RE STILL WHINING ABOUT WOOK AND YOUR LOVE FOR HIM! We only have seven episodes left! Keep it moving writers!

And finally,

WHY DID I GET ADDICTED TO SUCH A SAD DRAMA? Apparently I like emotionally torturing myself. :tears:

 

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3 minutes ago, RoxanaR said:

 

I can  feel you :angry:

but honestly , there not always a (or many) moments when we wanna shake the female lead? . HS really stressed me sometimes, but I think we should wait a bit, she just broke up (she has been left) and the heart doesn't change from one moment to another.
I'll wait for the next episodes and if HS doesn't change the will hang her withbmybown hands ( I know that I can't) .. 
Well, I think it's part of the process and the start of the special relationship between HS and WS

I don't want that HS accept WS's heart while she still loves WW

Guys, let's watch this drama till the end, will you? :) we have reached ep 12 tonight. Let's put our last faith for this writer by watching it till the last episode. Just bear with the development of haesoo's character and keep telling ourselves that our OTP ship will sail soon. 

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13 minutes ago, Gabi Bros said:

People are you really shipping YeonHwa with Wang So because Hae Soo is a fool...or because you really think she is a nice person for him? LOL I can imagine her being totally capable of hurting his baby like Queen Yoo did to baby Wang So...she is no different. Honestly, if Wang So have another woman...I want a nice woman not a witch. He don't deserve that. 

 

 

Honestly, I don't think  she is completely evil. She cares for him to an extent and she had her reasons for doing what she did. It is the survival of the fittest out there and she knows it unlike someone *cough* Hae soo *cough* She is an interesting character.  And she has good characteristics to be a good queen, she is smart and to boot pretty. If HS can't realize her feelings for So then he's better off marrying YH at least then he can becomes a king

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Even if the writer is a secret WW-HS-shipper, she can't change the plot and the direction it has to go to

even if we hat YH, she will be in history WSs wife (hate that fact)

I am really honestly annoyed by the recaps ... don't get me wrong, I LOVE the effort and patience of all recapper and screenshot provider, but oh my patience running low on that HS-WW-thing ... I get why WS is rejected by HS, but she could give him a bit more food to feed on an to know WHY

I so have to SEE the episode and I so do not really want to see it as I might stick my fist thru the screen ....

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24 minutes ago, briseis said:

They really are two peas in the same pod

"Baek Ah and Wang So taking the bromance and meaning of love to a completely new level - BOTH WILLING TO GET THEMSELVES KILLED BY THE WOMEN THEY LOVE IN ORDER TO PROTECT THEM!"

Yes this is how similar they are and is what makes them like true blue brothers. 

21 minutes ago, violet90 said:

also prepared your heart...

HS already showing sign of her future sickness.. the limping is when she work too much or being in the water too long result from the torture... the scene when she talk to the king she keep holding her chest.... i think the route for HS death already being establish...

this drama will make you tear up , mad , want to throw something and even scream...

its really THAT type of drama... lol

also the WW and HS will end tomorrow night... the moment she give the bracelet back its over......................... 

IKR?! This is when she becomes weaker and weaker, I don't see how the romance gonna start between them.But I am sure the writers could prove me wrong.  

20 minutes ago, Ainee Etp said:

Is HS hanging cloth diapers? Can't help but think who in the palace wears these towel size white fabrics.

The preview seemed like :

The king is ailing but his room is blocked from everybody, not allowing anyone to know his situation. Maybe at this time Wang Moo is not around in the palace and the King's condition must not make known to anyone until WM returns. Hae Soo attended to him and the only one knowing his condition.

WY realised this and sent minions to catch her. WW happened to be that minion and chase after HS which is when HS said "You have changed".

So HS asked WS "Do you want to be the King?"

Evil Queen visited the King and sad over his death (years of jealousy is an indication she loves him) but WS gets into the room to confront her or make a deal with her?

At this point I still don't know what can make HS love WS for who he is, instead of feeling grateful and like him as a friend. The "drinking the poison" and "standing in the rain" did not seem to work. I don't know what else he can do to make her love him.

 

Sometimes people do not see how much another has done for them unless they die or get hurt badly. And it takes two hearts to beat together in order to fall in love - until she can break off her infatuation with Wook, she won't see the true heart of So and she still holds doubts in loving him. 

By convincng herself that she still misses him and loves him, she can maintain status quo. She is afraid of change so she is afraid to accept So's love for her. Once Wook changes and the status quo changes, she will then be able to accept So and their love will blossom. 

I am confident the writer gonna start the SoHae romance tomorrow!

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On 9/30/2016 at 11:05 PM, valsava said:
3 hours ago, lovedrama11 said:

I need to learn Korean right nowwwww!!! What is the king saying :(

Me too, it's my first time to see Kdrama in raw, being addicted on this drama make me crazy, :angry:

 

 

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5 minutes ago, Evangeline Yang said:

Wow! I been silently reading the past 1 day.

I should be happy that I skipped today non sub epi. But yet I don't understand the bashing of Soo.

First of all, director mentioned this drama is even sadder than c ver. So the twist and turn will confirm be around.

For Soo, her happiness moment is when she stayed at Wook's mansion. Her way of saying she miss him can be her way of saying she miss the past. I feel the ship already sinking plus LJK mentioned he will be involved woth triangle love with Soo and Wook thus this is the season of triangle love.

I am a bit concerned to see so many people only focus on how many episodes left and why the female main lead has not fall in love. Glad to know I am not the only one who think she already fall in love but jn denial and rejection because of everything that fall apart around her. Her heart need time to heal and the highlight is coming because the king revealed his plan together with JM.

I am glad I am right that the King never abandoned So. Instead, the king plan a way for him. I feel this episode might stab my heart because of how many time So was being rejected (IU mentioned Soo will give So lemonade time through rejection) but nonetheless, she might need to learn to come in term of her place in this era. Shocked and learned to survive. IU mentioned about ruthless Soo. I can see Soo turning ruthless in this game of throne. We just need to stay till the end. Some love can be short and intense. While some fake love can be long and deluded. I can see Wook-Soo ship already sinking deep.

 

Looking forward to Soo changing from dejected and broken to ruthless. Is it too much to hope that HS and YH will become frenemies the like Ruoxi and Ming Yu if Soo changes?

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