[Drama 2016] Moon Lovers ❤ Scarlet Heart Ryeo, 달의 연인-보보경심 려 \^0^/ Soompi Kdrama 2016 Winner

[tanaqvi]

23 minutes ago, rumasa79 said:

 

Yess, she's being a noble idiot fosho! I don't know yet about love, but she obviously cares about him, yet her logic tells her that it's insane to get involved with another prince. Maybe it's just me, but I swear she looked tempted to say yes when So asked her to marry him, but logic pulled her in again.

The noble idiocy game is strong with you, Soo. But give it a rest already, we're all low on energy here. 

I TOTALLY AGREEE!!!!!

[prisa]

 

Dear Wang So,your hair, your lips, your voice, your eyes, your affection, your gaze is sexy  i dont have any idea why hae so continously reject you, stupid girl. this ep is frustrating

But i try to understand her, the palace is dangerous, being closer with many princes made her victim of power struggle, she just want to survive. Remember in early ep, she often said, i want to live

[churasan]

11 minutes ago, nubianlegalmind said:

Okay Moon Lovers, I am here to bring calm to the angst of the Soo-So shippers.

Soo has a role to play. She is not from this time. We are talking about the year 942-943. She is from over a thousand years later. Her purpose right now is to make sure that So becomes king. Let's all accept and receive this. Jumping on the So- Yeon Hwa bandwagon is counterproductive. YH is the reason all of the mess from episode 11 occurred. She is manipulative and at times cruel, not to mention selfish. She is absolutely NOT what So needs. History tells us, they will likely get married, but as we know, marriages at that time were often very political. It still doesn't mean So and Soo can't have a love of their own.

Somehow, I feel like this story is going to somehow affect her present day life more than what is happening over there. So, hang in there chingus!  

 

You are right.  From the preview, it's possible that she might see changes in WW and realize she might have made him into a political monster when she warned him about WS back in episode 9.  I can see how WW's transformation into a greedy tyrant would turn HS away from him - as that was the original reason she was scared of WS.  Therefore in order to "undo" this, maybe she'll stand by WS's side to help him gain the throne as history expects.  I think she already has feelings for WS, but maybe spending more time with him, she'll give into her feelings.

[larinalove]

Okay, let's get one thing straight.

I think we all would have been more tolerating and patient with this progress of plot in the drama if we knew the drama has up to 25 episodes or if the progress of the "main romance" was more, how do you say it, yes, actually progressing (sarcasm intended). But the drama is not 25 episodes and we are more than half way through without anything big actually being resolved. We still  have a silly, naive HS pinning for Wook, we still have Taejo alive, we still have left to see 3 kings die and up until now the progress of the WS-HS romance has been at a snail pace, no actually there is romance but just a one sided, unrequited love and the writers had the brilliant idea to fit all this in the last 8 episodes?! Well I am no expert but it doesn't seem smart and logical.

I would have been more tolerating and overlooking of the whole WW-HS fiasco and doomed relationship aspect IF Hae So would have been more logical and not plain naive, if she would have been shown having more romantic tendencies and thoughts for WS, if she would have been shown appreciating his efforts to save her life several times, if she wouldn't have shown to be plain mean to him, lashing out at him unjustly so many times, seeing his hurt face every times she opens her mouth to him breaks my heart, he does not deserve this after all he did for her, he comes to her all smiles and hopeful and she crushes him every time, I mean I honestly am so angry with her. Yes, I know many will say HS doesn't owe him her love just because he saved her life but she does owe him respect and consideration, she does owe to give him the benefit of the doubt, she does owe him kinder words and kinder manners after he was there for her at her worst, anyone with enough humanity and sense in him/her self knows that because she sure as hell does have understanding and compassion and tries to justify Wook even after he abandoned her and turned her back on her, the least she could to for WS is be kinder to him.

I know she is battered, broken, disillusioned and ill, I understand where she's coming from, I knew she would not accept WS's love or proposal immediately after being broken up with WW but at least I hoped to not see her pinning after him still after ONE FREAKING YEAR. I thought the whole climax of the 11 episode, with the rain scene marked the end for WW-HS, I thought since this episode she would be shown to move on from him and in this episode we get this?! Was that in vain?! I would be okay if we didn't have time jump but she was still pinning for Wook but after one year how  am I supposed to believe she will give her heart to WS completely after all this?!  Well, not likely. HS has got a lot of redeeming to do in my eyes, the writers have much to show to make me believe that WS is actually the one she loves and he's not the one who's interfering with HS's true love, her dear beloved Wookie.

Look, it's not enough to only show Hae So have her inner thoughts say "why can I not ignore him" and think we can say "oh, look she is having some particles of caring towards him" and get excited or show us some stolen kisses, initiated from WS (duh) saying "hey, look, the kisses happen only between the main couple, we didn't make the second lead kiss HS, so don't forget"!!

I will still watch and support the drama until the end, I am too much emotionally invested in it not to and I respect the hard work of the cast and crew did for months, the fact that it generates so much emotions inside us is an indicator of their success but that doesn't mean we cannot criticize or give our opinions on it.

This is the last time I am watching a drama without ending it's air time, this is a lesson learned.

I am still hoping for better things happening tomorrow, I will not be having high hopes from now on, I will just watch whatever it is shown without high expectations because I get disappointed.

Now, I am off to watch cat videos to calm myself!! Love you all! 

  

[fathiayunia]

14 minutes ago, littleloony said:

LOL chingu I love this ship...its so entertaining I love the captain I am in for the long haul. Are you the first mate can you let know when the Cap is gonna start with the skinship, wrist grabbing and kiss stealing lesson......I wanna learn.....I am a good and fast learner

 

Yes yes! Welcome welcome! Aah sadly our captain will be busy fending off the pirates for a while, the pirates are bad because they're supported by the evil queen  And he still has to rescue the confused damsel in distress, which is our heroine. SIGH

I'm hoping our captain will have time after all that fight to teach us our important lessons, which include fast skinship, wrist grabbing, kiss stealing, back hugging, sexy stare, sexy waist grabbing ooh the list keeps adding! Our captain is doing a great job upgrading and adding to our curriculum! Pffft

(OMG.. LOL look what this drama has done to me I need to pirates of the carribeaning myself to meditate for the next episode)

 

@leekyuphii @solelylurking @dhia205 @junee22 maknae is here, onnie deul, ready to board the assassination squad  so, what should I do? LOL

[theonlyone88]

Two scenes in tonight episodes stood out for me. The first is the scene between the king and Hae Su with his insightful words which encapsulated the situation in the Chinese version and also this version. He said that if you are not able to view events happening in the palace with cold indifference, no matter where you are, the situation will be the same ( she will be unable to find inner peace), this was the reason why in the chinese version, Ruo Xi had to leave the palace as she put everything on her shoulders, tried to change things, got upset and disillusioned when things happened. The king then said do not be obsessed with the future such that you lose people in the present, another problem in both versions, here as Hae Soo pushes away Wang So because of the visions he has been seeing. 

The second scene is that between Yeon Hwa and Wang So which was intriguing yet somewhat weird and out of character. It was intriguing as on one hand Yeon Hwa seems to be embracing what the king said in his second statement about not being obsessed by the future and decides to pursue her heart desires instead. It is just that the timing is weird considering that only a year ago, she plotted to split Wang Wook and Hae Soo with the result being Wang So being drawn closer to her. If the two have gotten married, she would have a much better chance. The reason she used in her love confession was also out of character as she said that we are fated to be together to Wang So, however, her personality is that of a go getter which believes in internal factors not external ones, thus you would have thought that she would have provided a more rational, analytical explanation for marriage that something like fate.

From her scene with the Queen, it looks like she is probably the only person whom the Queen will possibly fear and can become a worthy adversary to the Queen making her quite an asset, despite being rejected, perhaps from now on, perhaps she will help Wang So with his quest to be king if he wants to be a king. It is disappointing that half of the scene was cut in the international version as I thought that it was rather important.

 

[moonlover399993]

22 minutes ago, kriswu said:

 

If he can smile this bright when they're not yet even together, imagine how big and beautiful his smile will be when Soo accepts and loves him wholeheartedly? *sniffs* 

This baby boy deserves all the stars in Goryeo.

OMG! Your comment made me cry. He'll be like a happy boy, smiling from ear to ear, being showered with love.  He doesn't deserve this pain! This is CRUEL to him and to US!

[silfeeah]

Omo omo omo!!! - insert ajumma grabbing neck in distress- I've been a lurker throughout this drama but after reading the live recap for episode 12 I just had to voice my frustration. Irritated, frustrated tears wanted to spring from my eyes for WS. I'm even glad that WS marries YH in the end (out of my spite for HS's current behavior towards WS).  T-T We better get that intense love IU talked about in a promotional vid I saw - I even dropped Moonlight Drawn by Clouds because this drama consumed me heart and soul, completely. 

Edited October 3, 2016 by silfeeah
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[fuyukoneko]

@theonlyone88 Did the scene with YH and WS happen after WS's marriage proposal? Maybe WW told YH about it and YH realizes that if she doesn't do anything soon, she'll end up married to Yo? Whereas, before she didn't think she had competition for WS's affection.

[Diana Blanche]

@briseis This is the scene in which she asked Wang Wook if he missed her, right? Look in her eyes! It is not love at all, it's disappointment and reproach.

I didn't quote your post because I want to post the picture

[icesiren]

I understand shippers' frustration about the slow build of the So-Soo couple, but when you listen to what she is really saying, both to him and to herself, as she says harsh words to WS, particularly the scene in the laundry, you can tell she is pushing him away for (what she thinks is ) his own good and to try to not have him turn into harsh Gwangjong. 

When she tells him to focus on himself and not her, she clearly states that she knows he is being sent away from the palace as an envoy because he helped her, As he walks away, HS, says to herself, " I won't wait for you. Even though you put your life on the line for me, even though you called me your person, I can't.  Every time i meet you, I get scared. My heart was already for another person, so I don't understand why I can't ignore you." 

Then when he goes to see her at the laundry, she says him in a mini-panic,  "Why did you cover your face? Did you forget how to make makeup? Did your scar get infected? You hate that mask so why are you covering your face again?" Clearly she is concerned for him..  Then, after HS tells him that she is now a slave and cannot meet princes in her station and he chases after her, as she says harsh words, she thinks to herself, "You have to stop liking me." : Please don't throw yourself away for me." Out loud she tells WS, "Please, live peacefully. Don't hold onto anger or resentment. Forget everything - then all can avoid being harmed." 

Moreover, when WS tells her that nothing matters without her, not even the kingship, you can tell that she is touched by his words, and actually considers his proposal for a minute, before pushing him and his pin away.  The feelings are there --- she just has to overcome her past hurts and experiences to get there.  [Bravo to the King for telling her not to be so focused on the future, that she loses sight of what she has in the present ~] 

Just my two cents.  

RE: the convo with WW, the way she asks him if he missed her - her tone is somewhat accusatory and bitter. When he tells her that he missed her every day, she says "Ok. that's enough".  The way I read this line is, she just wanted to make sure that her love and faith in him was not entirely misplaced. that her judgment wasn't so lacking - a confirmation that she wasn't wrong to like him. Because the next thing, she cuts him off as WW tries to tell her that the situation will change shortly and when he gets more power, she says in a strong tone, " don't go to such troubles for me. Don't put yourself in danger. I've already seen enough of that."  The whole scene had a bittersweet feel to it that didn't make me think she was dumbly, blindly still in love with him. I just think she has had enough of it all and wants to let everything go. 

 

[junee22]

@fathiayunia @solelylurking @dhia205 @leekyuphii     If this is going to happen (still happens) in the next ep 13...I'll ask Captain Yoo (my precious Captain) to call the helicopter...and throw her off myself... Well...let's just see what will happen tomorrow night, shall we?*fingers crossed* --- still hoping.....

[Immortal_Angel]

53 minutes ago, Gabi Bros said:

WookSo is not the end game. I am sure.  Once the bracelet is returned is done! The end of them. 

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She returning the bracelet (not personally) and 8th prince breaking it saying: "So, you chose 4th after all!" was the real end of that couple in BBJX. 

 

 

Yes I'm waiting for the episode to come hopefully it will be next week when she realized who he really is behind all the niceness and goodness. He truly is very good at scheming and using sides to get what he wants. 

31 minutes ago, ddeokbokkii said:

Oh! wow, I have not watched episode 12 yet. But base on what other people wrote here make me baffle too, 
as to why they had to drag 8th prince relationship with Hae Soo for so long. 
I think other who had watched the Chinese version already mentioned that the 8th prince and Ruoxi(Hae Soo character)
end their relationship roughly about 40% into the drama. Ummm, we are at episode 12 of a 20 episode long drama,
that's 60% of this drama already wasted on the 8th prince and Hae Soo(Ruoxi character in chinese version).
And they are not the main love line in this novel. It's suppose to be the 4th prince(Wang So) and Hae Soo.
What's going on?.

I have a question for those who know more about Korean history, as I don't know much about Korean history.
Did Wang So kills his brothers in history when he took the throne?. 
I know the son of Taejo of Joseon era did killed his brothers to steal the throne and he did not love his
wife(the queen). Wouldn't this novel better fit to transfer to Taejo of Joseon era instead of Taejo of Gorgeo era?.

 

From what I remember Ruoxi and 8th didn't end their relationship till at least epi 14 and then she didn't start with 4th until a few episodes later so I guess for the kversion they want to make sure that all roads are cut off with Wook when she ends it so there is no way for her to come back. As for the history, I don't think he killed his brothers probably except for Wang Yo who was the king before but so far from what I read he didn't kill any of his brothers. To me, Hae Soo probably got confused with her history since she didn't remember much of it and that those visions she sees are visions that are going to happen if Wang So doesn't become king. And as for him being ruthless later, I believe that her death will be the cause that pushed him to become who he is later. 

[Rosemary83]

Just start watching 12 ep original. Do not understand anything but guys her eyes...how she looks at him...how you can say that nothing changed...I see a lot of changes...such softness,tenderness and sorrow...You do not need words to understand....what can' t  be said aloud you should see...and IU is really great in this scene with So in the garden... 

[iridescentmoth]

I think many viewers are conflating the notion that Wang So deserves our empathy with Hae Soo must reciprocate his love immediately. 

Hae soo is experiencing quite the emotional turmoil and I'm of the opinion that she loved Wook, it was not just a mere infatuation. It persevered thoughout the year, compounded with her desperate need to know why he betrayed her. I've said before that she could be experiencing some self delusion as an explaination of the shattering of Wook's gentleman and courteous illusion.

Now we have the wavering of her heart and I find her reaction to Wang So plausible if I examine the episode from the perspective that she loved Wook deeper than I anticipated. 

[gifanchy]

14 minutes ago, moonlover399993 said:

OMG! Your comment made me cry. He'll be like a happy boy, smiling from ear to ear, being showered with love.  He doesn't deserve this pain! This is CRUEL to him and to US!

Right? We and So don't deserve this ;~; I'm actually crying at my own comment too. 

I really dislike Soo right now but she's the only one I want him to be with. She needs to pamper him. If possible, serve him breakfast in bed. Give him all the finest things this world can offer. But we all know he's gonna reject that and will prolly just say Soo's love is enough. 

[tanaqvi]

just thouhgt

for great plot

HS/WS will come in the end to discuss her fears of hurting him

he could make her a beautiful promise to be her person and not to die without her permission

ohhhhhhhhhhh this be the scene i woulda watch

just my 2 cents.....

[itzibitzispider]

51 minutes ago, Claudia Ximena said:

question guys one of you pointed out that director said this version will be sadder? as of course we know HS dies then WS dies and so forth?? but will they meet in the future and perhaps have happy ending there?? 

I hope anybody know this? I will hate it if it has sad ending 

 

In the chinese Version they do meet in the future ... 4th prince death is not shown, but as time will take everyone, and so forth ...

some might hate the end
some might love it
most likely some will complain

she dies and he is left behind
tell me a handful person, that liked the ending in
"Mirror of the witch"
"Arang and the magistrate"
"Rooftop Prince"
.... I was NOT happy ... ok, but not happy

[chatiimoon]

I tought the episode was great hahaha did I watch the same as others? I wonder xD

I really liked the parallel of the baekah x woohe and haesoo x wang so relationship

loved the marriage proposal <3 he keeps pushing her buttons in this episode, It looked almost as she freaked out because she realized she almost said yes XD but her rationality came back hahaha

I liked the haesoo and woohe conversation, both girls needed a friend ;o; sad we skipped the year, we could have see more of maturing haesoo

and finally the game of thrones get really interesting, even if we had to sacrifice the good wang wook for this

[RoxanaR]

2 hours ago, Nymeria289 said:

You're certainly more optimistic. I hope it turns out like that. ... I Just can't accept anymore of the current track and certainly won't be able to handle any more disappointment. Safe to let go while there's few good memories left for me.

 

at least  do you gonna try 1 or 2 episodes more ?, all know that true and more great love of HS will be WS , I know is irritating but  is a drama no a sweet love story ....  
Think about ti , I think that this drama will have more great scenes and good  moments  than bad or disappointment moments