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[gogole mongol]

4 hours ago, aniola said:

Are they? I would say many young actors are good only on the level "we do our best".

There is enough exemple i watched since i follow BL series. This is mainly out of filming and at fanmeeting! So actually, the new faces obviously have to learn and train a lot. Personnally i can ilmmediatly listen if someone singing is out of tune, maybe it is not the case for everybody. For me singing in tune start at song beginning until his end! I was hoping a BL serie dedicated to music will give me some satisfaction, on this point, it is the worst i have watch for long. 

 

5 hours ago, aniola said:

You and series creators have different definition of "at minima".

It wasn't difficult to haven't same vision on the quality level, because i found out the musical technical parts was almost totally absent from first ep to last! I know this kind of series are not made to be view with this "technical" point, so i just talk about my personnal disappointment. I think everyone will react more or less if they are (with passion) into one subject and similar main one of the serie. I suppose those into fashion modelling will react from their personnal taste with a serie that is into the same matter! The difference is that music is made of technical points and rules. So when you are moving off the trail, it can be obvious for some! We can only judge about our own experience/knowledge on a precise point, that's why to be a "specialist" can bring us joy or displeasure! 

 

Just to give you an appreciation point, training on instrument whatever it is (except triangle) need an every day training for 4 to 8 hours., in the way to be at high level. With Tine and Wat, we are not yet at foetus state! BTW, for me, Tine/Wat couple ended  for the best and was more pleasant to watch on a sentimental point, even their love story was extremely complicated! I just regret it wasn't exactly the same for their practice at singing and play on instrument!

[mellialuna]

Your exchange make me rethink about HICTM, a behind the scene where they were playing basketball and not one (Ohm, Chimon, Sings) was able to score.

I don't think that is a reference in the choice of an actor to play such or such character!

[dustinmyeye]

12 hours ago, gogole mongol said:

...I was hoping a BL serie dedicated to music will give me some satisfaction, on this point, it is the worst i have watch for long. 

 

...music is made of technical points and rules. So when you are moving off the trail, it can be obvious for some! We can only judge about our own experience/knowledge on a precise point, that's why to be a "specialist" can bring us joy or displeasure! 

 

Just to give you an appreciation point, training on instrument whatever it is (except triangle) need an every day training for 4 to 8 hours., in the way to be at high level. With Tine and Wat, we are not yet at foetus state!

 

My father was/is a musician and music teacher and whilst I never showed the talent of my brother for being able to play an instrument I have a pretty good ear for it. If they are singing off key it makes my ears curl. I have to fast forward. I just don't know why they get them to do this when they don't have the talent.

 

I could appreciate Sarawat singing to Tine privately, or even that last song on stage (which was in essence a private affair). He doesn't have a strong singing voice but it was really cute that he wanted to. But a singing member of a group ? No way, he's rubbish. (There again I was sorely unimpressed by Scrubbs as well).

 

You are so right about the amount of practice that goes into playing an instrument. My father use to be at it for hours and hours at home before going out to work and playing professionally.

 

I think I prefer that the actors can at least pretend to play with fingers in the right place (even if not done expertly). When it is quite clear that they haven't a clue and the fingers don't move at all then I just laugh. I suppose because of the family instruments I notice it far more on woodwind where it is much clearer that the fingers are not changing notes.

 

You are mean to people who play the triangle. Can I liken it to frying an egg ? It is so simple and yet so easy to get wrong. Hit a triangle at even a fraction off the beat and everyone will notice. And don't talk about the tam-tam

[dustinmyeye]

40 minutes ago, mellialuna said:

Your exchange make me rethink about HICTM, a behind the scene where they were playing basketball and not one (Ohm, Chimon, Sings) was able to score.

I don't think that is a reference in the choice of an actor to play such or such character!

 

I remember that . Even during the series it was clear that nothing was ever getting near the net.

 

However, I also remember the delight on James's face when he succeeded in doing the jump at the end of the SOS Skateboard series.

 

Very few of the swimming teams have what I would call a swimmers body. Look at Team in UWMA (even Dean really). Nothing to suggest that in real life he is in a pool doing lengths all day

[dustinmyeye]

On 5/20/2020 at 7:33 PM, mellialuna said:

Let's start about what I don't like (yeah French people always state the don't like first) :

I don't like the last story with Pam about angst & the way they reconcile, I'm kinda tired about this plot when the girl try to destroy the CP! 

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For me the series should have end with episode 11, with the scene in the bus with Sarawat explaining everything to Tine (the clip, Sarawat's point of view about what Tine tells us since the beginning).

Ep. 12 bothered me a lot with Tine overthinking and Sarawat who seems distant. But really quickly I figure that it's Tine's story, he is the narrator, so it is how he felt it and not necessarily how Sarawat was doing.

Like in the bed when he couldn't sleep and imagine scenes between Pam and Sarawat, for me they didn't really happen, they might have but it's only Tine's imagination.

 

 

It was with some trepidation that I watched the final two episodes last night. I had seen some of the pretty negative thoughts on here so I watched on the computer rather than the TV because it is easier to skip bits.

 

As you say Episode  11 finished really well. And then with just two episodes to go we get Pam. What was the point ? I was baffled as to what purpose she was supposed to serve. Even in the book (which I haven't finished) why introduce her then ? I suppose it allowed a bit more story and gave the chance for a reconciliation. But we didn't really need a reconciliation did we ? I agree, Tine went overboard with his thinking. Sarawat explained that there was nothing between him and Pam and when Tine interrupts her hugging Sarawat and saying she want it to be like before it is quite clear that Sarawat is just standing there, it's a one way hug.

 

We ended up with a lot of drama for the sake of drama. Tine simply ran away. He didn't confront Sarawat or Pam. In the hospital he tells Mill : "He lied to me" and "It didn't seem that way to me" yet the clip clearly shows Sarawat not hugging Pam (and she was definitely getting the message loud and clear.)

 

Tine then moves out whilst looking at all the things that show that Sarawat's life revolves around him. Perhaps it is just me and I have been accused many times in my life of overthinking but I am definitely Monsieur Confrontation .

 

On 5/20/2020 at 7:33 PM, mellialuna said:

I like the exchange between Pam & Tine, the scene with old Sarawat looking at Tine 

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I like most of the characters, even the secondary CP (normally I am a secondary CP shipper but not this time, my first ship was SarawatTine), mostly of the girls are not nocive, and that's good, it change a bit.

I already miss them, knowing there will be no more 2gether on Fridays, I'm sure they will be playing again (GMMTV always use people to the core)

BL on fridays and saturdays help me going through quarantine 

 

For the series, I will know later, if I rewatch it or not. There are show I had loved but never rewatched again, so I will wait and see 

 

The exchange between Pam and Tine was good but so unnecessary in that particular scenario. Despite any evidence whatsoever Tine insists that Sarawat still loves her. You end up with the contradiction that she is telling him that Sarawat has only ever had eyes for him but he continues to refuse to accept the idea. When he brings up the matter of the song she gives him the recording and it is clear that she knows that she is vanquished - but hey, Tine will just ignore that because we need drama.

 

I don't see why Sarawat has to ask Tine to trust him again. From all the clips it was clear that he had been hunting Tine for a long while. [Duen from My Engineer has it so right : "Where's the trust ?"]

 

Man and Type turned out to be fun. I never liked Mill, definitely a player. Going out with somebody because you lost a bet is a poor reason.

 

I've just re-run UWMA. In part because I got the book on Wattpad. I still find Earth poor in the emotional scenes (totally outclassed by Fluke) but Nine conveys a severity and intensity to Korn that I really like. He knows they are doomed and that sense of severity is carried over into Ohm's portrayal of Dean. Both are pillars for their partner, but Korn can see only darkness, Dean the light.

 

[gogole mongol]

11 hours ago, dustinmyeye said:

You are mean to people who play the triangle.

It was the humorous part of my comment. And i agree with you, it is easy to play it, but it is easy too to be out of rhythm, and it quickly turn to "catastrophic/cacophony"!

 

 

[cdcotr]

I guess I've set the bar low for these kinds of things, if they don't make my ears hurt when they sing, I can live with it. I've seen a few clips of fan meets and I've cringed so hard when they sing and I've had to almost yell "Why??!!"  Why do this? But then I see/hear the fans screaming and I'm left baffled and wonder if maybe I'm just not getting their type of music?? maybe it's my ears that have a problem? or maybe the sound system was poor?

I just shrug and move on as I've been forced to do when I watch medical or legal dramas with glaring error in the most basic of protocols or standard procedures. If it is too much, I bail on the series.

 

It feels like, esp for the newer, younger artists coming up that they are more and more required to do multiple things when I wish they would really focus on one thing (at least when they are newbies), if it is acting then really hone that and consider the others hobbies. Maybe it is the difference in western and asian celebrity world. Aside from the fan service esp for shippers and fujoshis.

Do you guys know if celebrities or actors were required to do this years ago? They seem to be choosing taller and paler skinned ones too. With the requisite gorgeous face, perfect teeth and six pack abs. LOL

Remember the Love Sick days when they  really looked like regular high school students with gangly or chubby bodies, and braces.

 

For his first try, Win did pretty good. Maybe it helped that for most of it, Tine was confused, uncertain and didn't have to have intense love scenes.  I hope he gets good projects and doesn't get lost in the dozens of artists GMM (?) has.

 

I thought Drake was miscast, he just looked younger, even with the eyebrows and him trying to act older. Gunsmile (Boss) was wasted and he was reduced to hamming it up to just get noticed (or maybe that was the way the character was written?), he barely had lines. I wanted to see more of Green and Dim. He was supposed to be an annoying stalker but he was kinda adorable LOL.  Tine's friends could have been reduced to 3 or even just 2. Only Fong and the one who did food vlogs had any contribution to the story. Toptap as Type was a good choice. He is older I think and it showed when he was giving Wat the 3rd degree and freezing Man out. Wish there were more scenes between the brothers. Mike looked too old for a freshman but not too bad I guess?

And once again, the females were window dressing. As if in BL world, half the population don't really matter or serve as the villain. At least Pam wasn't shown as one of those really nasty characters that you want to smother with a pillow.

[gogole mongol]

On 5/23/2020 at 9:55 AM, mellialuna said:

I don't think that is a reference in the choice of an actor to play such or such character!

Totally agree! So i made a difference if the scene is to quietly fishing little fishes in a quiet river and to fish big narwhal into big and rough ocean. I guess it will be necessary to be correctly trained to this kind of experience! We all know today's technology can help and "made miracles", all will depend of who will watch the movie/ep. The best exemple is something that happened to me a certain time ago. I was with friends all fishing in a river. It was the first (and last) time i used and have a fishing rod in my hands. Believe me or not, so for the whole afternoon, while i was among some "true fishing specialist with professionnal tools", i was the only one to got a fish  with my simple stick and hook!!! ha ha ha Sometimes unexperienced peoples can made miracle where professionnal doesn't have only one chance! For acting, i think there is a parallel, if you need/want a minimim credibility. Workshop aren't made for dog! They train to dance, they train to use tools, and so on. I know training will didn't give/made of you a talented actor, however, it will be more pleasant for experienced eyes to watch the movie/ep!!! The strangest point on this subject is we can watch a lot of BTS where a lot of actors are singing and play guitar (more or less in a good way), and for this serie, the two main role are totally unexperienced into this matter....?????

Is casting for the serie made a deliberate choice, i'm still searching an answer to the question! 

 

Must add i have seen a video where Win is able to "correctly" play (a little) piano:

Spoiler

 

 

[gogole mongol]

7 hours ago, cdcotr said:

I guess I've set the bar low for these kinds of things, if they don't make my ears hurt when they sing, I can live with it. I've seen a few clips of fan meets and I've cringed so hard when they sing and I've had to almost yell "Why??!!"  Why do this? But then I see/hear the fans screaming and I'm left baffled and wonder if maybe I'm just not getting their type of music?? maybe it's my ears that have a problem? or maybe the sound system was poor?

Your comment made me smile a lot (not at all in a bad way)! Like or not a music is a personnal taste affair, nevertheless, it can't result of material quality. But music is made on human aptitude to hear/listen sounds. Some will caress our ears, others will be unpleasant. It is more or less similar with food testing. If you live into asian countries, your personnal experience will be different with those living into african continent! Eating food/listen music can walk hand in hand, our own appreciation can/will differ depending of our today's mood! So if food testing can be subjective, a big part of music can't be in this way, because music (all kind of music) is made of mathematic rule. Our earing human organism react to different frequency (that's of what each music is made), this is for the whole peoples in this world.

 

For the listening appreciation, you will feel more ease with romantic music or hard rock. At first, all will depend of your personnal home listening (the music your parents are listening) then you will have your own choice, also depending of what years you are born. But physically, you/i will react to the sounds i can hear, which are all made of different frequnecies. Personnally, i'm not able to listen disco/rap music, because they both had been created into sound's laboratories. All human react automatically to a certain frequency, and even i hate this kind of music, i will react humanly. This is the same for everyone, except the deaf (but they can react to vibration)! This is precisely for this reason i can't like this kind of music, it is create for made your brain react to a typical frequency (even me, i react with my foot when i have to listen it). A long time after first musical experience (from childish song to discover there is so many different musical style), depending of our culture, we will prefer this or that music, our personnal taste will be oriented to the one that give us the more satisfaction. That's why peoples into bourgeoisie life style can listen popular music/songs, and vice versa!

 

Our personnal musical taste are made of many different little things, so the main point is a basic one, music need to respect the rules that made the music can be appreciate by all peoples: be in tune!!! (the dissonant music is a typical way of creation that require voluntary dissonant notes/chords). Today's technology is able to made a donkey sing as Caruso (famed tenor singer), but our ears/brain can/must made the difference. If not, it is like open the door to any kind of music able to made move your gluteal muscle. without selective choice. 

[cdcotr]

16 hours ago, gogole mongol said:

Your comment made me smile a lot (not at all in a bad way)! Like or not a music is a personnal taste affair, nevertheless, it can't result of material quality. But music is made on human aptitude to hear/listen sounds. Some will caress our ears, others will be unpleasant. It is more or less similar with food testing. If you live into asian countries, your personnal experience will be different with those living into african continent! Eating food/listen music can walk hand in hand, our own appreciation can/will differ depending of our today's mood! So if food testing can be subjective, a big part of music can't be in this way, because music (all kind of music) is made of mathematic rule. Our earing human organism react to different frequency (that's of what each music is made), this is for the whole peoples in this world.

 

 

Or are these screaming fans able to look at the performances through an objective lens or maybe they are more forgiving bec these are their idols which maybe they liked bec of their acting skill, or more likely, for their physical attributes...

Is that a cynical view or an optimistic one? probably both. lol

 

Watching these different asian dramas or even shows like The Voice from around the globe has helped me get a peak at the different flavors that each country has with their music and I can appreciate the merits most of the time. Except for EDM, or a lot of the songs nowadays that seem prepackaged, inorganic and soul-less. I can appreciate disco and some rap, some disco I am fond of. But EDM seems just like a sequence of beats in a loop. Sure it makes you bob, tap or sway but it doesn't really feed the soul IMO anyway.

So yeah some of those clips, i cringe so hard, and I think they hit a bum note but I give the benefit of the doubt (unless so blatantly obvious) bec I'm just not familiar enough to how their melodies go . But I still hit forward or bail.

 

[Koryuki]

Let's look at this objectively. To some people, only someone who is at Adele's level can be considered singers to them. To others, Justin Bieber is considered a singer. Everyone has their own expectations, but end of the day is you don't have to be good at music to love music.

[Koryuki]

5 special episodes! Directed by P'Aof this time. Excited to see what those episodes will be

[gogole mongol]

4 hours ago, alvinyl said:

5 special episodes! Directed by P'Aof this time. Excited to see what those episodes will be

Just hope they don't have to play guitar or sing! Sentimental affair is by far what i prefer from the couple! And please, no new nervousbreakdown  ha ha ha 

[clon_105]

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[Koryuki]

Interviews from Harper's Bazaar on Bright and Win's view on future roles etc

https://twitter.com/brightwin3000/status/1284872219454140416


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[clon_105]